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skype number on date in article???

Was wondering what a skype number was doing on the Fiji Wikipedia article I changed it back to the date as was appropriate but it was changed back by the User:Ummit, not sure the purpose or appropriate placing of the skype number would someone enlighten as to why a skype number was placed on this article??

User:Maikeli

The formatting in question is a simple non-breaking space,  .

I'm not sure what makes this look like a "Skype phone number" to you.

It looks like an ordinary space to me. —Steve Summit (talk) 05:13, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Maybe there's something wrong with my pc got renew my anti virus, it shows up as a skype number to call in NZ (call 3500 1000 in New Zealand)??? go figure, sorry about that gotta chk my PC cheers for the explanation User:Maikeli

Okay, good luck with that! —Steve Summit (talk) 20:33, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Help Desk archiving problem

I have had difficulty with Internet access for the past month and chose only high-priority sites. I just noticed that several January archive pages had a link to the March archives when they should actually link to February, and I fixed this.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This is the problem I reported at #Scsbot adds a month when day doesn't exist. Assuming the bot substitutes {{HD Archive header}}, and {{RD Archive header}} for the refdesk, I think I have fixed it for the future with [1] and [2]. Wrong links in old archives are not fixed by this. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Muscovy duck

Hi Ummit. I see that in 2007 you moved Muscovy Duck to Muscovy duck. Yet, it is back at Muscovy Duck. Any idea why? Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in User:Rui Gabriel Correia, Jimfbleak moved the page back again to Muscovy Duck the next day. See [3] & [4] --Ushau97 (talk) 08:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

It's a long-standing convention that bird species are fully capitalised Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Scsbot at WP:NHD

Hi. Consensus have been established that WP:NHD should be merged with WP:THQ. So can you remove Scsbot's adding date header function at WP:NHD. Discussion for merge at WT:TH#Merging with Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/questions - revisited. I am leaving this message here because Scsbot's talk page says that it will stop the bot. --Ushau97 (talk) 17:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

All set. (And thanks for leaving the message here, not there.) —Steve Summit (talk) 18:48, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Wrong month links descriptions in Ref Desk Archives

The monthly archives' links on the last daily page of May seem mismatched. See Language RD Archive of May, 31 – it contains this code:

    | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/April 2013|May]] 
    | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/May 2013|May]] 
    | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/June 2013|Jul]]

(slightly reordered for better readability). Note the visible contents does not correspond to actual links destinations.

Same error on May, 31 on Maths and Computing, did not check other desks.--CiaPan (talk) 05:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, dear. I see what you mean.

Now I don't remember whether that text is generated explicitly by the bot, or implicitly by one of several archive header templates. I'll look into it. —Steve Summit (talk) 13:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Last year Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2012 May 31 had the links:

   | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/May 2012|May]] 
   | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/May 2012|May]] 
   | [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/July 2012|Jul]]

I guess it was my template edits mentioned above in #Help Desk archiving problem which caused the links to go to the intended months April, May, June this year in Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2013 May 31, but the displayed month after the pipe remained wrong. I don't know where it comes from. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Your comments on the move preparation page

Hi Steve, thanks for your sincere comments here, which I very much agree with. I'd appreciate it if you could copy edit it a little to see if you can take some of what comes across as some irritation to me. I can read and appreciate that you have tried to keep it very non-confrontational already, but I think it could be even better in that regard. If not, thanks for at least considering it (and writing it in the first place). Cheers, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Martijn. Explained and revised. —Steve Summit (talk) 17:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Appreciated! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request

Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Thanks for the reminder -- I had meant to weigh in on that when the time came. —Steve Summit (talk) 00:22, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this consensus discussion? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that at some point in your soliciting of those 49 opinions you may have made a mistake, because I haven't been participating in that discussion and I don't know anything about it. —Steve Summit (talk) 01:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Help desk archiving

Are you aware that Scsbot hasn't archived the Wikipedia:Help desk since 30 November? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:54, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and it hasn't been archiving the reference desks, either.

I've been (a) traveling, (b) scandalously busy, and (c) without my normal computer, but I've finally patched together enough of my environment to get some piecemeal archiving done tonight. Full, normal archiving will resume on Sunday. "We apologise for the inconvenience." —Steve Summit (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks for the manual archiving you've been doing in the meantime -- you can relax now. 19:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I see you've got the bot account working again - thank you! -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Science desk archiving

The bot seems to have got a bit out of control and archived two days at the same time on Science Refdesk. I'm pretty sure we want more than 3 days to answer questions. (Note the Refdesks have a weird system where messages are archived and remain available - it's possible the bot did the one but failed to do the other. I reverted the second archiving for the moment until something is sorted out. Wnt (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm on vacation and didn't run the bot last night, therefore it had two days to do tonight, to catch up.

(This sort of thing happens with some regularity.) —Steve Summit (talk) 04:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

(Oh, and, thanks, but yes, I'm well familiar with that "weird system"! :-) —Steve Summit (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC))

Encoding hyperlinks to section titles containing LaTeX

Hi, Steve, here is another feature I noticed in archives. Some people, esp. on Maths RD, use maths notation with <math>...</math> in their sections' titles, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=586828254. These titles get spoiled in monthly TOC pages (see RD arch Math Dec 2013#11 or Dec 2013#19). This seems to be a result of removing all instances of a backslash, which is a controlling character for LaTeX typesetting.

Additionally the hyperlink generated in the monthly TOC doesn't meet the section's anchor in a daily archive page.
This is a link in Dec 2013#19:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Mathematics/2013_December_19#Let_mathcal.7BN.7D_be_Baire_space._How_to_prove_that_mathcal.7BN.7D.5Eomega_is_homeomorphic_to_mathcal.7BN.7D.3F

(it keeps all the contents except 'math' tags and LaTeX controls)
and this is its actual target:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Mathematics/2013_December_19#Let_be_Baire_space._How_to_prove_that_is_homeomorphic_to_.3F

(with 'math' tags and all their contents dropped). --CiaPan (talk) 06:36, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

PS.
Don't rush, that's not a big deal, just a note. --CiaPan (talk) 06:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

The short answer is that the bot's handling of markup in titles has always been simpleminded, has never been intended to be 100% correct or complete.

The longer answer will probably have to (sorry!) wait 'til I get back from vacation. :-) —Steve Summit (talk) 03:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

"start improving the encyclopaedia"

Um, I think I do that every single day. And have done for eight-and-a-half years. With dozens of featured lists and articles, ITN appearances, DYKs, good article reviews, FL reviews, FA reviews, administration, 'cratship, FL directorship, advocacy of ACCESS, MOS enlightenment, 105,000+ edits etc. The fact that you wish to characterise my entire contribution history as simply the spat with the way Bugs and his cohorts treat the reference desk as a chat forum is a real shame. I have no idea who you are or what you do around here, but I would not jump to such extreme conclusions on my very first communication with you. I see you spend a lot of time around talk pages, Wikipedia pages etc. Perhaps it's time you started to "improve" the encyclopaedia? Happy new year. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

See, my problem is, you're acting a lot like Bugs, here. I'm sure you do improve the encyclopedia -- and so does he. But he, too, seems to act as if those contributions give him some kind of a pass to act monumentally uncivilly from time to time -- just as you have been lately. —Steve Summit (talk) 02:58, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid that simply demonstrates your lack of understanding of what each of us do here. Never mind. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:33, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Purge page caches on MediaWiki

Steve, in response to your comment on the reference desk talk-page: you can append ?action=purge to the end of the URL to force a page cache refresh. More details are on the MediaWiki manual-page: Manual:Purge. Thanks for your vigilant management of the archive-bot and your continued contribution to the reference desk! Nimur (talk) 22:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! (And you're quite welcome.) —Steve Summit (talk) 02:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Note

You might want to keep your eye on that one user, as he's showing signs of coming unhinged. Happy new year. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

You might also want to read all the complaints about "Bugs" and his chums. Pathetic springs to mind! (Unhinged? No, I'll just keep making good content, getting it onto the main page, and improving Wikipedia, meanwhile you can just upset people on the ref desk chat room fora...) Happy new year. :) The Rambling Man (talk) 23:42, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I have raised this issue at WP:ANI now. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)