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Need help with Russian language names

Artem Ponomarenko, my guess is that you speak English, too. I see you work on Russian-language rowing articles. I could really do with a hand, as I'm struggling with names of Russian rowers. I'm setting up individual pages for the European Rowing Championships, and the sources are mostly in German. The Soviet rowers' spelling of their German names is often vastly different to their English names. I'm creating Wikidata items in parallel so that there's at least some name consistency between the different years. Is there a chance you giving me a hand with this task? Schwede66 00:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

• Firstly. thank you Schwede66for what you do! Secondly, yes, indeed - I`m ready to help you. Just prepare for me some name list and I will translate for you. Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 09:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response back in February, Artem Ponomarenko. I've gone backwards in the European Rowing Championships to WWII (1947 European Rowing Championships was the first event after the war) and read up about the Soviet Union's rowing history (which is somewhat fascinating). In short, following the 1917 October Revolution, the Soviet Union didn't compete internationally and nobody seemed to know that they even had rowing as a sport. It seems that their first international appearance was the 1952 Summer Olympics where they came second in the medal rankings. Very soon, they became a dominant force.

We have three good sources for Soviet Union participation in international rowing events:

• Sports Reference is a database holding entries for all Olympic competitors. I've found that they seem to get common names right at an impressive rate.
• The FISA database, on the other hand, is riddled with all sorts of mistakes and it is clear that their quality control processes are poor.
• Sport Komplett is a German database that, amongst other things, lists medal winners of European Rowing Championships. It seems to be the only source that covers the event from the beginning; only the later years appear in the FISA database. The quality of the data is somewhere in between Sports Reference and FISA.

What I suggest that is worth you looking over are the following series of pages:

• Firstly, European Rowing Championships starting with 1953 all the way to present day (with a higher emphasis on the older entries)
• Secondly, World Rowing Championships starting with 1962 all the way to present day (with a higher emphasis on the older entries)
• Thirdly (if you haven't run out of steam by then), Rowing at the Summer Olympics and its sub-pages starting in 1952. Alternatively, have a look at the various pages covering the Soviet Union at the Summer Olympics. So far, I've created complete entries for the years 1952 to 1968. I'll do the missing 1972, 1976, and 1988 entries soon.

I further suggest that you focus on redlinks first and once they are done, we can deal with existing article titles. In parallel, we'll update items on Wikidata or add new entries if there isn't an entry already. What I'll do is watchlist all the above articles and I'll see when you make changes. I'll do the changes in Wikidata in parallel to what you do.

Does that sound like a good plan? Do you have other ideas how we should go about this? Should I create a list of articles here that get ticked off once they've been checked? This can potentially quite a bit of work. For example, it's taken me from late December 2017 until now to write the 1947 to 1973 entries for the European Rowing Championships; that said, I've updated and amended quite a few rowing bios, as well as starting some 300 rowing bios in support of all this. Schwede66 21:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Schwede66! Sorry, but at the moment I am out of game. Before I had severe disease of flu and now I still have bad effects on my arm. I can't work properly. But I will be keep in my mind about our deals. Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 16:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Uh, I'm sorry to hear that you aren't well, Artem Ponomarenko. Get better soon! There's no hurry with any of this; after all, we are all volunteers. Good if it happens later this year, but no trouble if it takes longer than that. Schwede66 18:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your responsiveness! Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Artem Ponomarenko: Happy new year to you. How's your health; are you better again? Schwede66 20:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

New Zealand by-elections, 19c

Re 1862 City of Dunedin by-elections it is now finished (but still a stub) as have worked out that there was no March poll for Dick & Richardson: Called for after a show of hands on Tuesday 18 March (ODT 18 March, OW 22 March) but then scrubbed Wednesday 19 March as Richardson’s nominator was not on the local roll. And Dick had resigned as he did not want to go to the session in Auckland. NB: the OW 22 March article did not have what happened on the 19th when the poll was scrubbed (a local paper but not up to date!). By combining two or three by-elections in one year into one article, it simplifies checking by-election templates (two separate types of template) and articles which can have a redirect to the one article if necessary. Some distinguished the two in one year with “April 1862” and ”July 1862” in the title, some has (1st) and(2nd), but they can all be given a redirect to the one article. And there are sometimes both “City of Dunedin by-election” and “Dunedin by-election”. NB: never thought of removing the last part (after ?) from Papers Past URLs. Hugo999 (talk) 10:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

@Hugo999: Happy new year to you. Great to see all those red links disappearing. Keep up your good work! Schwede66 20:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

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By-elections in Dunedin

Hi, re the by-elections for the City of Dunedin in 1878 & 1879 was it the same Mr Reeves standing in 1879? We know it was Charles or C S Reeves in 1878 not his brother Richard, from the ODT of 29 July 1878. Religion in Education was a factor with "secularists" winning in 1879 by-elections in Auckland and Nelson. David Goldie in Auckland the "Secularist" was opposed to the Catholic candidate but was a keen Methodist (and teetotal). Hugo999 (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it was Charles Stephen Reeves in 1879, from the ODT of 11 July 1879. Hugo999 (talk) 22:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC) ! After looking at both sets of obits, one said Richard was an elder brother of Charles. And they were both born in 1836! (Richard's obits say 1836, but Charles' say "in 77th year"). And Charles a Freemason was allied with the Catholics. Hugo999 (talk) 00:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I’ve had a look to see whether they were twins but have yet to come across a source that mentions them both. Charles was 76 when he died hence “in his 77th year” is correct, isn’t it? Schwede66 00:30, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes I understand "in 77th year" means coming up to 77y or 76. A puzzle that only one obit of either (Richard in ES of 1 June 1910 says that Richard was an elder brother of Charles (wouldn't it be common knowledge by journos?), and while Richard's obits say born 1836 none of Charles obits give a year of birth. And the RG historic website has Richard died 1910 aged 75y (born c1835 or 1835-36?) and Charles died 1912 aged 76y (born c1836 or 1836-37?); death info depends on the surviving wife or children of course! Hugo999 (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I got Charles’ DOB from a transcription of his gravestone. Schwede66 01:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

See my remarks regarding Richard's birth year at Talk:Richard Reeves (New Zealand politician). Paora (talk) 00:23, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Waitemata (New Zealand electorate) link error

Hi!.The revert you did to Waitemata (New Zealand electorate). I think you should fix the link after you did reverted or don't do any revert at all if you leave problem behind Khoshhat (talk) 03:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Khoshhat: I’m afraid you are wrong on two fronts. Firstly, there isn’t anything wrong with a redirect and that’s thus not something that needs fixing. Secondly, if you look closely I didn’t just revert your edit but I also edited the link so that it no longer redirects (even though that wasn’t necessary). What exactly did you try to achieve but replacing the template link? Do you understand why we are using templates over hardcoded results tables? Schwede66 09:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Schwede66: A lot of respect for you and your hard working in Wikipedia, maybe you missing something if you go back to Waitemata (New Zealand electorate) and look at Notes & References you will see RED text, all i want to fix that red text(link) because red text asking for help! in my free time im fixing some links but this one is different and if wasn’t necessary red texts shouldn't come up. I do understood about templates & got your point, before i started i went to Templates 1894 & 1941 but there is nothing i could do there because both templates had same reference (link) and i am not allowed to remove links.Which i do not understood why past events need to have a temples and need to be updated! i am not going to edit that article anymore and only watching the page to see how is gonaa be fixed different way if necessary.thanks Khoshhat (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Khoshhat: I see. I've fixed this by changing the double up of the link name in the Template:1894 Waitemata by-election and the 1894 Waitemata by-election pages. Basically, two templates defined the same WP:REFNAME, and I've renamed one of those. Thanks for spotting that and bringing it to my attention via your edit and subsequent explanation. Schwede66 08:01, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Afd

Hi Schwede66. Thanks for your closure on the AfD for List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Basin Reserve. If you have a moment, please could you look at this AfD started by the same user: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred le Roux. I think it can be a speedy keep based on this comment, but I am involved in the AfD, and don't want to do that myself. Hope that's OK. Thanks again. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Sorry, when I had time yesterday morning to attend to this I completely forgot to action this. I've done it now. Schwede66 17:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem - thanks for sorting! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Finished (with) by-elections!

Have completed all 19c by-elections (by midnight) with 1878 Waipa by-election Hugo999 (talk) 10:50, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

The "Natlib.govt.nz" redirect page that you just created

I was surprised to see this. Is it customary to set up Wikipedia redirects from domain names like this? I haven't seen this before; I hope it doesn't become a trend :-) Ross Finlayson (talk) 08:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Redirects are cheap. I hope you aren't too distressed. :) Schwede66 08:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that offer

Ata marie/ Guten Tag. I've had a bit of trouble with an image I made some time ago and uploaded last year. A year ago I uploaded an image I made myself so I could use it on my talk page. A couple of days ago I uploaded a fair use image (that got deleted, I'm not worried about that), but this other image from a year ago was deleted too. The people who deleted did no explaining. I initially assumed they thought I plagiarized it, So I uploaded the original variant of this image without lettering I used from a free-use website to be on the safe side, but they deleted that again, believing it to be the one they initially deleted, leaving again no explanation. I don't knwo but I think that some guy in the Netherlands deleted it claiming he made it, of all the things! Jesus! I'm really confused, as I've left a message and I've had no response. They've given me "final warnings" but I don't see anything I've done wrong. Could you give me a piece of advice? Ma te Wa --Leavepuckgackle1998 (talk) 03:44, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@Leavepuckgackle1998: I see that this is happening on Commons; that's a shame because I'm not an admin there and thus can't look at stuff that's been deleted. I reckon we need to get a sympathetic admin on Commons to explain what the concern is. Place {{helpme}} on your Commons talk page. Ping me, if you wish, when you post that and I shall keep an eye on the feedback/discussion. Schwede66 04:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Your thoughts?

Per this discussion, I kinda feel like Sheldybett (talk · contribs) shouldn't be using XFDCloser at all until further notice, but he appears to have used it 37 times, mostly to relist (which itself is not a good thing) but occasionally also to close as "no consensus" (which given the vote-counting that went on at WP:Articles for deletion/Rojam seems problematic, as he might as well have closed that as "no consensus and the problem of not waiting for an admin close would have been just as bad). Thoughts? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:08, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Hijiri88: Your link isn't working so I don't know which discussion item you are pointing to. Maybe "AfD"? Schwede66 17:29, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, for some reason when I try to link section headers in permalinks, my iPad won't do its job. The discussion item I was pointing to was "Result was keep"?. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Oops

Sorry didn't realise that was the Wiki style --LJ Holden 09:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
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Thanks for helping!

Thanks for remotely helping with the Libraries of New Zealand session today; we're still going, so if you have any observations or questions do share them on the event's Talk page. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 01:18, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Changing the format of access dates

MOS:CITEVAR is clear that you should not change the consistent style of existing citations. Flax in New Zealand consistently used YYYY-MM-DD for access dates, as is allowed, regardless of the style used for date of publication. See MOS:DATEUNIFY. The other changes you made were fine, but there were too many wrong changes to fix individually. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Antarctica New Zealand

Thanks re Antarctica New Zealand, which I was told about by Kylie (who reverted the anonymous removal of my additions) If they try again, go for autoconfirm edits only? Hugo999 (talk) 21:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Blocking is also an option; legal threats is one of the biggest no-nos on WP. Schwede66 22:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

New User Help/Adoption

Thank you for your offer of assistance. In addition to getting used to the editing function, I'm also curious about finding pages I can contribute to and help "clean up." Is there a tag to search on? Also, my weekday schedule is intense, so if I don't reply immediately, it's likely work-related. Looking forward to learning from you! Christine Hannon (talk) 10:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

The Gordon Monument

Thanks for your edits at this page - I'm pretty new to page reviewing, and I thought it was worthwhile disambiguating because of the various other Gordon Monuments around the world (this one was number 3 on the list when I Googled it). I see the convention is only to do that when there's another article to worry about, so I'll remember that for next time. (I'm now tempted to go and write an article about one of the other ones so I can revert you though...  ;)). Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 19:56, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Go for your life, mate! I like that attitude of writing another article just so that you are right; have done that myself before. Just have a read of WP:2DABS for completeness. Schwede66 20:25, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, appreciated. Oh, and consider me commissioned... GirthSummit _(blether) 22:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Darn it - I won't be able to revert you - the thing that came at the top of all my searches is most commonly known as Duke of Gordon's Monument. Oh well, I wrote it anyway. Glad you weren't caught up in the trouble in Christchurch by the way - a terrible business. GirthSummit _(blether) 15:44, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I can sense your frustration. We got a nice article out of it, though; what’s not to like about that? Well done. With regards to the shooting, when you look after a large number of children and the Police tell you there’s a gunman on the loose, I can tell you it very much feels like that you are caught up in it. Schwede66 17:30, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry, that was flippant of me. I'm a teacher myself, I can fully appreciate that you would very much feel caught up in it, and I can't imagine the stress you must have been under. I should have said that I'm glad you and the children didn't come to harm.

As for the frustration, I'm sure I'll get you yet. I've come across this and this, I'll get there... GirthSummit _(blether) 18:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Now I don't want to add to your misery but I've just been doing some archiving. Just wondered whether I can archive this one, too? Or are you still keen to "get me", as you call it? Schwede66 05:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I've got to admit it - I know when I'm fighting a losing battle. All these things are either known by other names, or I just can't find the enough sources to write them up - you can go ahead and archive this, I'll have to deal with the misery. If you felt like cheering me up though, I'd be grateful for any advice you could give me on improving any of the articles I've written while I was researching this - I was surprised that there were so few articles written about Cat A listed buildings in Moray (most of which seem to have been built by one Gordon or another) and have been working on a few articles about them. There are links on my userpage if you're interested. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 08:29, 8 April 2019 (UTC)