User talk:Cassianto/Archives/2020/May

DYK for Ernest Berry Webber

On 3 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernest Berry Webber, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hammersmith Town Hall in London, designed by Ernest Berry Webber, was called an "unfortunate building" by architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Berry Webber. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ernest Berry Webber), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

No hard feelings

No hard feelings

Hey, Cassianto. I know we've had our minor content disputes in the past, but I just wanted to clarify that I hold no ill will towards you. You're a great editor. I doubt that I will be able to write as many excellent articles as you before I teeter out on this platform. Despite what I may have said, many of your articles are actually quite interesting. I also wanted to thank you for introducing me to ANI. It's actually quite entertaining. Cheers! ~ HAL333 17:09, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I too am not a vindictive person, HAL333, and I appreciate your thoughts here so no harm done; my advice would be to steer clear of ANI as much as you can if you want to be taken seriously as an editor. It's a disgusting depressing stink hole of a place. I only go there when I see a friend being bullied by its trolls. You'd do well to avoid it. Cassianto^Talk 17:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll stick more to editing the main-space, where the benefits are more tangible. I'll see you around. ~ HAL333 17:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

May · Mary · Monteverdi

Thank you today for Frank Matcham, who "was the UK's most famous theatre designer during the late-Victorian/early Edwardian period, and was responsible for the design of nearly 200 theatres up and down the country. Sadly, the 1960s turned a lot of his theatres into rubble and dust and now only a handful survive, mostly in London."! Good timing, the centenary of his death. I just updated my list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles. - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. Comments welcome, also help with image (and other file) licenses. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thirsty work, TFA

Great start to the day! Good work on Matcham. serial # 10:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, SN. I'll drink to that. Cassianto^Talk 16:27, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Please retract your attempt to put words into my mouth

Re [1], I strongly object to your attempt to put words into my mouth to say "dumb down ... to complete thickos (your opinion, not mine)" - please remove it. Mike Peel (talk) 18:51, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

That's what most infoboxes do, or didn't you know that? They simplify already simple information for people who can't be bothered to read the first few lines of the lead section. What else do you think they do? Cassianto^Talk 18:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Removed, but do me the courtesy of talking about infoboxes in general, here, and not the one you're here about. My opinions remain the same. Cassianto^Talk 19:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. The link that was posted on my talk page today pointed to [2], which said "and to not turn discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general." However, since you asked here, I have to say that I personally find them useful as they provide an overview of the topic that lets me better understand the details that then come in the article text. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Well thanks to WP's kangaroo court, I cannot talk about any one particular infobox more than once and can only talk about them in general, so that rule works well, doesn't it. Anyway, I disagree with you. Cassianto^Talk 20:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

• Please keep civil in infobox discussions, Mike Peel. The fact things are not going in your favour is no reason to start smearing those whose opinions differ from yours. It's a well known pro-infoboxer tactic and one we've all seen many times before. It's frankly very boring. Cassianto^Talk 21:03, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Mirrored7

Hi Cassianto, there's an issue with the user Mirrored7, who evidently seems to also be this non registered user User:2003:CD:6F35:DB00:3837:4A15:783A:3E66. This user has decided to remove a large chunk of information on the Frank Ocean article evidently due to the removal of unlead worthy/false content in the Ariana Grande article-who this user seems to have a particular bias towards e.g. Grande being a "streaming pioneer". Please can you look into this. Thank you. Isaacsorry (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

i didn't do anything wrong. i just don't understand how he can include multiple genres on frank ocean's lead, and words like 'universal' acclaim or 'highly anticipated'. Seems not logical to me. Mirrored7 (talk) 20:20, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

AG

Hi, thank you that you told me about talk page, well, I want to take it there, but the certain user seems to ignoring my message. He doesn't seem to truly care. What's the next step? Can I put my revised edit back? xx Mirrored7 (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Try talking to the other editor, either on the article talk page or the other editors talk page. Cassianto^Talk 08:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. The user does not seem to know the artist and generally appears to be very biased and not objective. I work on Grande's site a little longer and try to accept criticism and always remain objective. I tried to speak to him, but as I said, he doesn't seem to be a fan of Grande in general. Mirrored7 (talk) 17:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't confuse someone's opinion or knowledge on a singer with their differing opinion to you on what should or shouldn't go in an article. If they don't respond to your attempts to engage, you can always initiate an WP:RFC. That way a number of editors can have an opinion and not just the editor with whom you're trying to appease. Cassianto^Talk 18:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The user is clearly not objective and very biased, so it makes no sense to continue a discussion. Mostly all music artists like Frank Ocean have genres and their songs included in their lead. Period.

Mirrored7 (talk) 20:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Thinking Outside the Box Barnstar
	In recognition of your valuable work in so many places!

We hope (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors, as you did here. If you confirm you understand the issue and also that you won't follow the same track, any administrator may unblock you at any time. Alternatively, once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are other good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Lourdes 11:18, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

And you are? Cassianto^Talk 11:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps, Lourdes, you'll now block the editor who's just accused the very resilient and very likeable TonyBallioni of being an antisemite? This comment, you reverted, as it was so abhorrent, but mine, which you've blocked me for, stays in place. I would politely suggest that you have your priorities in the wrong order. Cassianto^Talk 12:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Lourdes, You’ve blocked a constructive editor (ie one who writes content, not wastes people’s time at ANI) for saying “I bet XXX is as happy as a pig in muck at this”. On what planet is that a personal attack worthy of a block? I’ve seem some heavy-handed bad judgement in my time in WP, but this ranks as among the the very weakest excuses for blocking I have ever seen. Perhaps you should have a little rethink on this one, or ask for comment among neutral colleagues as to whether this is a valid step to take. - SchroCat (talk) 11:27, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Gosh, and not even the s-word. Did someone mention mud slinging? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC) ... apologies Cassianto, but I was instantly reminded of an old 1930s song made popular by Frank Crumit. I do hope you've not been "at the sauce" again: [3]
• speechless - can we make a multi-voiced unblock request? ... because I know the feeling of being too proud to appeal absurdity --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

  with soul then --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:09, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

  I understand Drmies unblocked? Applause! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Every day, we lose what the wrongly blocked would have given that day. And a little bit of our souls.

nb: User talk:Wehwalt#Sanddunes Sunrise

• What a pointless and silly block!, That comment was no where near of worth blocking over!, I wouldn't even consider it a personal attack if I'm being completely honest, +1 to Gerda's "multi-voiced unblock request". You've had your 5 minutes of fame, now please unblock so we can all go back to what we enjoy doing. –Davey2010^Talk 11:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• This is ridiculous Lourdes. JAGUAR 12:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• I've seen some silly blocks, but this one takes the dog biscuit. -Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 13:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hang on there, Cassianto, you unashamed swinophobe... "Pigs are people too, you know!" Well.... some folks seem to think so. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Dear me! This reminds one why we need a mechanism to recall Admins. Tim riley talk 23:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I see some things never change around here so this will be a short visit:

	The Keystone Cops Barnstar
	In recognition of recent admin decisions.

Australasian Antarctic Expedition

Thank you for your part in bringing Australasian Antarctic Expedition to the Main page today, in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Honan Chapel

Hi Cass, I could really do with your usual forensic eye here; as you might have gathered me 70s Cork educated Paddy English not so gdoo, and could do with an eye. Ceoil (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I've made a start, Ceoil. Feel free to adopt or disregard. Cassianto^Talk 08:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Sound man Cassianto. Ceoil (talk) 08:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)