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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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A barnstar for you!

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		Hello OlEnglish. You have signed my guestbook! Thank you very much.--Pratyya (Hello!) 12:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Blue Rose (blues band)

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Adminship Request

I am asking you to look over my 20-month Wikipedia history to see how far away you think I am from becoming an Administator. Myself, I don't exactly think I am ready just yet, but it would be good to get an idea on where I am. I was rewarded Rollback status in November 2012, I have created 36 articles (with the only stubs being TN highway articles that can't be expanded for lack of information), and I have done extensive work for WP:NASCAR, WP:SEVERE, and WP:Tropical Cyclones. I occasionally get into it with others (mostly because of my difficulty adapting to change), but I will calm down and get over it. I try to welcome users, issue warnings, and report them for vandalism when necessary. What do you think? Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, United States Man (talk) 23:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm impressed with your weather articles! In my honest assessment, I think you've got a fairly good chance.. Your CSD noms look ok, and the anti-vandalism is commendable, although you could maybe use a bit more experience in other admin areas, such as closing AfDs, AIV, RFPP, UAA reporting, or even work in the WP:Copyright problems or WP:PUF areas, would give you a broader understanding of the diverse admin areas and which area you may choose to 'specialize' in if you do become an admin. If you use WP:Twinkle please consider turning on logging of PROD and CSD noms (see mine for example: User:OlEnglish/CSD log, User:OlEnglish/PROD log). This edit summary was troubling and recent; try not to come off as being abrasive, as this may come back to bite you at RfA. It pays to be nice to the newbs ;) All in all, you are a good content editor and can be trusted with the tools in my opinion, however I can't guarantee you'll pass if you stood for RfA right now, and as you stated you don't feel confident yourself yet. Best thing would be to wait maybe a few more months until you feel you have a solid, slam-dunk portfolio to present to the community. ;) -- œ^™ 06:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. About that edit summary, I am one who thinks everyone should have a good amount of common sense and good writing skills. I guess not everyone is like that though. Thanks again, United States Man (talk) 01:16, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Fallen Fruit

I was just stumbling upon the article Fallen Fruit and saw how User:Austinopolis blanked several sections. That should be considered vandalism. Account holders can vandalise just as much as IP users can. I see you sort-of asked the editor why he made those changes, but you made no action after Austinopolis' clear carelessness and rudeness in not responding.

The sections that he removed, although somewhat insufficient in number of citations, had valid and useful information. I would like to put those sections back into the article, but I wanted to hear from you first. What do you think? --ɱ (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Well that user obviously had his own motive for blanking most of that article, seeing as how he did not respond to me nor make any more edits to any other articles (save 1). And since he did not provide any rationale for his deletions you are well within your right to revert. But do use discretion, to not put back any content that may violate policy. -- œ^™ 01:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good.--ɱ (talk) 03:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Well...

Yes, I read all your userboxes. In fact, I read your whole userpage, top to bottom. --70.181.68.226 (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

And? Were you impressed with what you read? -- œ^™ 02:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I love userboxes! --70.181.68.226 (talk) 02:58, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha! Me too. I think it's a great way for Wikipedians to get to know one another. -- œ^™ 03:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Yep. --70.181.68.226 (talk) 04:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Rfa Preparation

Hi, OE!

My name is EnglishEfternamn, or EE, for short. I am writing because I have been on Wikipedia since 2006. I however, left WP in 2007 and have recently returned. I know I am trying to move things along very quickly, but I aspire to be within the scope of adminship inside of the next month or so. Would you be willing, as an experienced user, to guide me into that process? I chose you because I like your username, as it sounds somewhat like mine. Cheers!EnglishEfternamn_*t/c* 00:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh my! So sorry I totally forgot about you.., I'm flattered that you would choose me as your mentor but I really don't think I would be very good choice at the moment as, obviously, I'm kinda unreliable when it comes to replying to my own talk page messages, lol!. Honestly though, I don't think I'd be available enough to help you. I like your username too btw ;) -- œ^™ 02:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Greetings from Turkey

Hello!

I'm from the Turkish Wikipedia and I need to ask you a question about the Cleanup Taskforce. As I saw this team was active a few years ago in wikipedia. But it is not active anymore in the english and turkish wikipedias. For a few days I'm thinking to make a new team in the turkish wikipedia. But I was wondering why the taskforce isn't active anymore in wikipedia? If you can help I would be very pleasured. Nice Day! Talha Samil Cakir --85.102.170.176 (talk) 21:33, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure why helpful projects like this go inactive. They just eventually go stale and die as users come and go over time. Maybe it's because as the English Wikipedia grows, the overwhelming cleanup backlogs seem too daunting and people just give up. But at a smaller wiki like the Turkish Wikipedia I think a taskforce like this would work well! It's a great idea, I hope you manage to succeed in getting a good group of editors together and cleanup some articles. Best of luck! -- œ^™ 02:27, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. I've talked with few other English users and they said that we already have Wikipedia:Cleanup. So, this might be one if the reasons of the taskforce going inactive. But the interesting thing is that we don't have Wikipedia:Cleanup so the taskforce will be very useful for Turkish Wikipedia. Thank you again, if we can build a new team I will let you know :) Talha Samil Cakir --85.102.170.176 (talk) 09:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trademarks

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Kinder Surprise Update

OlEnglish,

As you may recall, I reached out to you in early 2012 to address incorrect information on the Kinder Surprise Wikipedia article. We'd again appreciate your help ensuring the article is 100% factually correct from a neutral point of view and ensure that misleading sources and misinformation are eliminated.

As a reminder, below are direct links to our conversations and discussion on the Kinder Talk Pages.

• Kinder Surprise_Article_Clean_Up

• Tagged for Original Research
• Four Deaths between 91 and 98.22
• Product Label Displayed on Packaging

As another reminder, in order to provide proper balance and follow Wikipedia guidelines, I provided 3rd party sources, which disproved the vague and un-verified references regarding deaths associated with the product in the Birmingham Post article that was previously referenced in the Kinder article. I followed the proper disclosure procedures when dealing with a conflict of interest on Wikipedia and disclosed I was the one doing the editing and all facts provided were from a 3rd party, official UK government documentation. The relevant sections on the Kinder page were unmodified until January 2013.

On January 22, 2013 a Wikipedia user made multiple edits to the page, specifically related to the changes we made last year. The user also made several comments on the talk pages where they reference Ferrero USA specifically for making the changes and disputes the companies’ sources, as well as ability to remain neutral.

Here are the changes this person made that we factually disagree with:

• Change 1
• Change 2
• Change 3
• Change 4

We believe this person made several statements that do not seem neutral or even factual, especially his or her inclusion of this statement (which appears two times) about deaths related to toys in chocolate:

“In 2000, the parents of three children in the UK who died after choking to death on a toy in chocolate eggs campaigned for the products to be withdrawn from the EU…” .

Taken on its own that statement is correct, but in the context of the editing it leads the reader to believe that all 3 eggs were Kinder Surprise, which is not true; only two were from Kinder Surprise.

The inclusion of this statement, as well as this person’s sourced press articles create the illusion that Kinder Surprise is responsible for more than two, if not all, the deaths reported in these articles. This is inherently misleading and in our opinion based on reading Wikipedia guidance, not in line with Wikipedia’s philosophy on providing objective factual information.

If you agree, would you allow us to update the article with the correct and balanced information?

Please let us know your thoughts when you have a moment.

Best, Jeanne

Jmm52 (talk) 20:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jeanne :) I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. You do not need to ask me for permission to edit the article. You've disclosed your COI in line with our guidance, and are aware of our policies, and thus you should feel free to edit in accordance with those policies. In regards to the edits you disagree with, the user who made them, User:Nbauman, has begun a discussion on the talk page, here and here. When there is an editing disagreement the usual Wikipedia method for reaching consensus is discussion on the talk page. I myself do not wish to become involved at this point and cannot comment. Now, you can be bold and revert first then discuss, but the best thing to do in this situation would be to engage the involved editor in civil discussion either on the article's talk page or the user's own personal talk page and explain to them why you feel their edits are inaccurate or misleading. If the issue cannot be resolved that way you can request help at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard and a 3rd party will intervene. Hope that helps. -- œ^™ 02:51, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you OE for your response and insights on how I can move forward. Helpful as always.(Jmm52 (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2013 (UTC))

Please comment on Talk:Luigi di Bella

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Help Project newsletter : Issue 7

The Help Project Newsletter
Issue VII - August 2013

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• There was a Wikimedia blog post about our experience at the Open Help Conference.
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• Help:Introduction to talk pages and Help:Introduction to policies and guidelines have both been overhauled and updated to use the new tutorial design.

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Please explain pressx2start px2s

Ok a few days ago you undid something I did on the last of us under the username px2s. Not a problem. However I did ask you a few question that have goon unanswered. Then came along another admin and blocked that account. I understand that block because of the name. Once again no problem. Once this happened I asked for a username change. Instead of hearing back from that admin on the username change the third admin joined in asking a few questions and I never heard back from him. So as you can see I just made another account because it seems like second chances do not happen here. As I explained with the username it was an error because I am new to Wikipedia. And as for the information on the last of us page I still have questions regarding that but I would like answered or explained to me better. Thank you for your time.Popdoc (talk) 00:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you please provide diffs (links to the specific edits you are referring to)? -- œ^™ 23:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) ISTM the background is all at Px2s (talk · contribs)—both blue links. You will probably wish to confer with User:Alexf; the above appears to be technically a block evasion—not that I’m recommending enforcement action, since (as you‘ve doubtless noticed) it’s the only edit showing for that account.—Odysseus1479 03:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry. I was on Trut-h-urts man and some how ended up here. Thank you for not recommending enforcement action as in the block it said that I can create a new account and just want to understand better so I don't make the same mistake as I did before.75.26.23.253 (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC) I see how I got here. Sorry. Popdoc (talk) 00:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Consensus

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Canadian Admins

I saw you cast a vote to increase the size of the Canadian Admin Corps Mafia, local BC chapter. HAHA. I can't blame you, he'll make a fine admin. I still recall and am grateful that you were one of the few people kind to me and who tried to help me the first week of November 2010. Thank you. PumpkinSky talk 02:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

You are very welcome my friend. :) -- œ^™ 03:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Abstractionism

I saw you recently removed the hatnote from the abstractionism article that referred to abstract art. I am tempted to turn the entire page into a redirect to the art article since that seems far and wide the primary meaning, and the philosophy content was neither sourced nor much of an improvement over the coverage at Abstraction#Abstraction used in philosophy anyway. If I'm missing something, please leave a note at Talk:Abstractionism. Huon (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

You'd probably know more than me about the subject. I have no objection to the page becoming a redirect. -- œ^™ 22:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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BACKLOG OF THE WEEK Category:Pages with broken reference names

Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names (more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a "Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.

Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.

Best wishes & thanks --Frze ^{> talk} 09:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Rough consensus

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Best wishes --Frze ^{> talk} 04:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

New REFBot

There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 04:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for posting on CarolineABrigham's talk page and those of some of my other students. (Please don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages.) I am the professor for the course. Please don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any advice or concerns. My courses are at: Education Program:Rice University/Poverty, Justice, Human Capabilities Section 1 (Fall 2013) and Education Program:Rice University/Poverty, Justice, Human Capabilities, Section 2 (Fall 2013). Thanks!DStrassmann (talk) 20:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Humble request for nomination to Adminship.

Greetings OlEnglish!

I would really like to apply for Adminship, and am here to humbly request your nomination!

If you do no think that I'm ready, it's okay. It's just that I would have so more power to do good if you would nominate me. And I also think that once the other bureaucrats see that my skills are crucial to maintaing articles in the areas of grammar and vandalism (especially in articles written by people outside of America), they will allow me to become a sysop.

All I'm asking for is a nomination. We need to make Wikipedia a universally great experience! I have made great edits, especially in areas of my interest such as towns in Pakistan. The articles were written horrendously before! I even made a mistake on purpose to see wether someone would correct it. No one did! This is just unacceptable.

I wil be of great help, especially in creating new content, stopping vandals, and making Wikipedia a universally great experience. Please nominate me now!

Thank-you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Officialasim (talk • contribs) 03:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion

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T: template redirects

Hi, you participated in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 October 20#T:ITNBOX and other Template redirects, some of which I have relisted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November_18#T:WPTECH. Please come along and share your thoughts .. ;-) John Vandenberg ^(chat) 15:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

re-electing admins

Hi. Thanks for your interest in User:SamuelTheGhost/Re-electing admins. I wrote this four years ago and at that time made some feeble attempts to get support, but with no success. I'd be very happy to try again if you have any good ideas. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hoot Hester.

Thanks for your contributions to that article. I thought it was a lost cause. Michaelgossett (talk) 03:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) -- œ^™ 08:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible review calendar

Hello User:OlEnglish; My interest is in possibly initiating or starting a review for a GA or FA wikipage for a medical article. Any possible interest in participating? BillMoyers (talk) 23:36, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Probably not :) Being mostly a gnomish type editor, working on FAs is admittedly a bit out of my league. Thanks, though. Merry Christmas. -- œ^™ 01:05, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello User:OlEnglish; Thank for getting back and certainly good holiday wishes. For this effort, we would really, really benefit from an experienced editor starting off our FA review. The review has been put off for over a year and is overdue. The page management of the psychology Page for "Major Depression" has recognized this need and is just waiting for someone with good experience to initiate the review process. This is a malady with over 1 million suffers each year. I have already recorded an eight item "action list" on its Talk page to be listed in the FA review form as a check-list, and your experience at editing would help a lot for the various editors to try to do a good job with attending the various needed updates. This wikipage for "Major Depressive Disorder" is already an FA and this should mostly be periodic housekeeping. Could you glance at this wikipage and its Talk? (Either way, good wishes for the New Year.) BillMoyers (talk) 14:34, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Paid editing by User:Mr_RD

Hi. I saw your comment here querying possible paid editing. I'm sure that's what it is. If you check out this AfD you'll see multiple cookie cutter spam articles, but then he leaps half way round the world to place an article about an obscure auction house, Baer & Bosch Auctioneers. And there appear to be others. I'm curious to know how one handles situations like this when, frankly, every edit he does must be suspect? andy (talk) 11:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

It's touchy. We're supposed to AGF, and he could just be a good-faithed member of WP:WikiProject Companies, however I've seen exactly this pattern of editing before from paid editors, where they're smart enough to avoid the CSD criteria and give their articles a veneer of legitimacy, at least on a quick glance. One approach would be to directly question the editor if he's accepting contracts from these companies. If he's transparent about it and the articles meet all our policies/guidelines there's not much else we can do. If he denies it, there are sites such as elance.com where we can maybe track down individual contracts, however we must be mindful of WP:OUTING. I think the best thing to do is just draw lots of attention to the situation by posting to the COI noticeboard and the community will scrutinize every edit they make. -- œ^™ 16:24, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello all, it's good to see so many concerned editors. Here I would like to tell some things about my personal life, I am an Indian entrepreneur, an avid reader, movie buff and frequent traveller too. I have travelled across four continents across world: Asia, Europe, North America and Australia. In year 2012, I happened to attend the Inpex trade show for one of my projects. When I see the article about it, I decided to edit it. As per MICE articles about Thailand cities are concerned, this summer I worked with TCEB for nearly 2 months, that's when I came to know about MICE. So I thought it would be a good addition to wikipedia about the initiatives in the industry for Wikipedia. If you feel any of my edits as promoted one, please feel free to delete it. Regards Mr RD (talk) 12:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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