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Military intervention against ISIL

Posso chiederti perché hai riaggiunto un presunto coinvolgimento dell'Italia contro l'ISIS in Libia e Afghanistan? Nell'articolo era menzionata un'attività di sorveglianza dell'Italia nei confronti dell'ISIS in Libia, ma l'ho rimossa perché priva di fonti, e non mi risulta proprio che l'Italia abbia collaborato con il governo di Tobruk o con l'Egitto contro l'ISIS. Quanto all'Afghanistan, l'Italia è presente con una missione "no combat" di sostegno al governo afghano, che combatte principalmente contro i Taliban e solo marginalmente contro l'ISIS. La missione è la prosecuzione di ISAF, che non è certo nata per contrastare l'ISIS. Quindi, presentare la presenza italiana in Afghanistan come diretta contro l'ISIS è fuorviante (ed è tutt'al più "military aid"). Nykterinos (talk) 15:20, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Nykterinos: Guarda indubbiamente sei più informato di me, non che io me ne intenda molto di operazioni militari. Comunque riguardo all'Afghanistan reputavano che ora come ora, dopo la "fine" della guerra, la presenza dei militari italiani non fosse poi molto diversa da quella degli americani. Errore mio, chiedo scusa :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 18:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Figurati, poteva essermi sfuggito qualcosa. In Afghanistan, gli americani, a differenza degli alleati, continuano a bombardare, sia i Taliban (avrai sentito dell'ospedale di Kunduz), sia al-Qaeda. Contro l'ISIS l'articolo cita solo un attacco americano in luglio, e in effetti mi sembra poco per poter parlare di "intervento militare americano contro l'ISIS", ma quell'articolo è un po' un calderone di qualsiasi cosa. Allora per l'Italia cancello. Alla prossima! Nykterinos (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Nykterinos: Si, avevo sentito dell'incidente all'ospedale di Kunduz, ma non credevo intervenissero direttamente contro l'ISIS, mentre l'Italia e gli altri alleati rimasti no. Comunque si, quell'articolo non è molto chiaro, c'è un po' di tutto... Buona giornata! -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:17, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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Italian constitutional referendum, 2016

Hi, I just want to first thank you for having written a really good article on the the referendum to reform the Italian Senate, and for updating it frequently with poll results. It gives a great summary of all the issues and positions of different parties really well.

I just wanted to pick up on one part of it that may not be entirely correct, but I'm not entirely sure. You state in the article that "the membership of the Senate would be changed, with regional representatives appointed in a manner virtually identical to Germany's Bundesrat". The reason I'm not sure about is because the Bundesrat is really weird and unique (basically there are no permanent representatives and the Minister-President of each state appoints one person who casts all the votes of that state by themselves), and when I last read about these reforms it implied that senators would be indirectly elected by the regional parliaments, more akin to the Fedreal Council of Austria (it was a few comments by someone on https://fruitsandvotes.wordpress.com/ (because I'm that sort of person who reads a blog on electoral systems and constitutions...)).

I've been trying to find a source that explains how the Senators would be appointed and how many would be appointed to each region, but I've had little success so far (my French is good, but my Italian is pretty basic), and I was wondering if you'd be able to find a source that could clarify this?

Otherwise, fantastic article, and I'm really glad you wrote it so I can follow the polling over the next few months MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 14:52, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

@MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really...: Thank you very much for these kind words :) Anyway the process of Senators' appointment is quite complicated, in fact here in Italy, we aren't satisfied if we don't complicate everything.

You are probably right when you said that the best example isn't the Bundesrat, in fact of the 100 Senators, 74 will be appointed by Regional Councils. In the electoral package there will be a list with the name of councilors that are candidated to become Senators. Moreover there will be 21 mayors of main cities and 5 members appointed by the President of Italy, who remain in office for seven years.

Here there are some sources: this one in Italian (which is more complete) and this one in English. I hope they will be useful, good evening! -- Nick.mon (talk) 19:11, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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Democratic Party (Italy)

Hello Nick.mon, you've reverted my above edit with comment Vandalism. This is not true. I saw this dates in de de-WP. Best regards -- Drahdiwaberling (talk) 07:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Looking at the de-WP the dates are 308/113/31, at he it-WP you see 301/113/29 and yours 303/114/29. What's now? -- Drahdiwaberling (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

@Drahdiwaberling: Hi, probably your edits weren't vandalism but we don't need a giant photo of Renzi and his signature in the article of the Democratic Party. Best regards. -- Nick.mon (talk) 19:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

O.k., that was a mistake with this photo and I saw it I wanted delete. You were faster...Sorry. And what do you mean to the other dates above? Regards -- Drahdiwaberling (talk) 20:00, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

@Drahdiwaberling: If you are talking about the number of members of the Parliament, I think that they are incorrect. Maybe one year ago PD had 31 MEP and 308 deputies, but not now :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Pentapartito Article

Hi Nick.Mon. You have appeared to remove my edit noting the successor stage of Italian Politics was known as Mani Pulite. Do you disagree? I can provide a reference if need be. Bergmanucsd (talk) 02:58, 11 October 2016 (UTC)bergmanucsd

@Bergmanucsd: Hi, you are right when you said that the "historical event" after the Pentapartito is Mani Pulite, but the successor means "political successor"; a political alliance or a party that succeeded to the Pentapartito, and Mani Pulite wasn't an electoral alliance. -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:16, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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@JFG: You are right, I changed Trump's image in all the state election pages because, this photo (File:Donald Trump, October 2016 by Gage Skidmore (cropped).jpg) was used in the main article for almost two days, so I decided to edit all the other articles to keep, as you said, a consistent image everywhere. This is my reason, anyway I will revert all my edits. Have a good day! -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:17, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Understood. Unfortunately, picture changes on the main bio were made out of process despite a prominent edit notice dedicated to this issue. Sorry for all the trouble, and good day to you as well! — JFG ^talk 08:22, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

@JFG: Excuse me, but all my edits had been reverted by Callibrador, who insert this picture (File:Donald Trump by Gage Skidmore 10.jpg); what can we do now? -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:28, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Gosh, this is disruptive editing by an involved person pushing his own photographs at every opportunity. Do revert and warn him, then WP:ANI or WP:AE would be your next step. — JFG ^talk 08:31, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

@JFG: Thank you so much, but I must admit that I'm not so expert in Wikipedia's policies and rules, so I really don't know what could I do in a case like this. If you want I can revert all the articles about state election, but I sincerly don't know how can I warn him about ANI or AE, sorry :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:38, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

No worries, just put the pictures back in place with a relevant edit comment. Warnings can wait until the next edit war… — JFG ^talk 08:52, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I revert them from Alaska to Maryland, I will continue later... -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:45, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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Just a quick note to let you know I misclicked and reverted an edit you made - I have undone my error. Apologies! -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 13:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: No problem, thanks for your explanation. Have a good day! -- Nick.mon (talk) 13:25, 18 December 2016 (UTC)