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Managing a conflict of interest edit

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. You say that this account will be used to promote your company...it will NOT, Wikipedia does not allow promotion of any sort. Theroadislong (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages! edit

 
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Hi there, thanks for your response. I should probably explain that I am not actually employed by Hot House Music, I am an intern employed by The University of Derby. This is part of my University work to improve my degree, therefore I don't believe there to be a conflict of interest. There is a 4 star review by The Guardian on the company and international press articles from their tours to the USA, does this meet the notability criteria? Are you also saying that I cannot link the website or social media accounts? I am simply creating this page to display information for the public on a growing UK business, isn't that allowed?

You wrote on your user page, "An intern for Hot House Music School LLP. This account has been created with the sole purpose of promoting HHM LLP." Please note that Wikipedia is not a business directory. As an intern, you are seen by Wikipedia as being paid for your work, which means you have an unambiguous conflict of interest regarding HHMS. Further, promotion is definitely not one of the purposes of Wikipedia. You should explain this basic fact to your employer. If Hot House merits an article, then some unconnected individual will eventually write the article from a neutral and unconnected point of view.
Note also that "upcoming events" are not considered pertinent to any Wikipedia article, per WP:CRYSTAL. Please advise your employer to seek other means to promote their business.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:37, 5 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi again, I wrote that before I had spoken to with you and the other people in the group so I believe I now know the best way to approach the article, thank you. I will state that I am being paid to write the article as per the terms and conditions, and will not use it for promotion. There have been many news articles written about Hot House Music and they are highly recognised in their industry, this should mean that they are notable enough to warrant a page. Thank you for your comments, --MattHHM (talk) 15:12, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

August 2020 edit

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Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 15:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages! edit

 
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AfC notification: User:MattHHM/sandbox has a new comment edit

 
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:MattHHM/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:15, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Please declare your conflict of interest edit

Please see Template:Connected contributor (paid) and declare your COI on your user page, as you are advancing, indirectly, your own financial interests by creating the article about HHM.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:22, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Matt. Further to our Teahouse discussion (I've just seen your follow up question there), I need to tell you that you have taken a really bad step backwards by removing your attempt at declaring paid editing from your user page. (see diff). As I advised you, your payment by Derby University to create any page is still PAID editing, even if its about another organisation. I also have to point out that undeclared paid editing for promotional purposes is met by the user being blocked from further editing. So, please do not edit your sandbox article any further until you have correctly followed our obligatory requirement for making a paid declaration, explained here: WP:PAID. I realise that our rules are not easy to follow, but your sandbox is not exempt from that requirement, and I quote from that policy which says: "Contribution: any text or file added to, or deleted from, Wikipedia, including talk-page and sandbox contributions, and material added to or deleted from articles by others at the behest of paid editors."  
It will be extremely embarrassing for me to have to block an editor from my own local university who is doing a paid internship because they've breached our policies. Fix the disclosure, then you can carry on editing, but not before. If you want me to have a chat with your course supervisor/employer to explain the issues, I'll be happy to do that, or maybe the Wikipedian I pinged who works at the Uni Library might be willing to have a word. Just let me know. (Note: this is a friendly offer and not a threat!). Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Nick, I have no reason to not declare that I am being paid, In all of my messages I have made it clear that I will be declaring everything and following all the necessary guidelines. I have inserted a template on to my Sandbox although I'm concerned that I haven't done it right. Would you be kind enough to look again for me and tell me if that's okay? Thanks --MattHHM (talk) 14:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC) xxReply

(edit conflict)Crikey, Matt: Maybe it was bad timing, and unfortunate that I happened to revisit your page ten minutes ago (because you failed to properly ping me - see WP:PING for how to do it). But what follows is a response to your original post to me which contained the now-deleted comment: In future, I would appreciate more constructive responses, thank you. I'm guessing you removed it because you had second thoughts, but I have been genuinely offended here to think that you felt I have not been constructive towards your requests for assistance. I am unsure how I could have been more helpful, as I have given you multiple helpful responses and detailed feedback to your question at the Teahouse, and took the trouble to check each of the individual references you sought comments on, and came here to politely guide you that your deletion of your attempt to declare your paid work on your userpage was not a good move. Yes, you have said that you will (future tense) be declaring your paid editing work; I am telling you that you need to do it now (present tense) before any further paid editing, even within your sandbox, or you take the risk that one of our administrators might blocking you. If you are not willing or able to accept politely put, constructive assistance, then I will leave you to it. We generally don't feel we should have to hand-hold paid editors as we expect people who receive remuneration for editing to have taken the trouble to have read, understood and followed our key policies and guidelines before embarking on page creation. The rest of us here are not paid, and we volunteer our time generously and freely to help others who are encountering difficulties. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:27, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
PS - that was written before you edited your post, so I've struck the bits that are no longer relevant, but you can probably still tell I'm a bit cross. Anyway, I've now spent enough time on this, this afternoon, and am now going out to enjoy the sunshine. I'll consider your subsequent question about declaration later on - but generally I tend to think a clear declaration on your userpage is the best place to do it to begin with. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Nick. Yes I did have second thoughts, although I too was offended as it seemed like you were insinuating that I was trying to hide the fact that it is paid for editing... Which I wasn't at all. It is not polite to say that to me, whilst I do appreciate all of your tips, I was insulted when you said you may potentially need to block my account. Anyway, I decided to remove my comments as I didn't want to be rude (and I am always happy to admit when I have made a mistake), so for that I apologise. I value your help and support, I am just trying to learn. --MattHHM (talk) 14:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages! edit

 
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Thank you very much, I will read this now! --MattHHM (talk) 14:31, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

AfC notification: Draft:Hot House Music School LLP has a new comment edit

 
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Jonathan Eno moved to draftspace edit

An article you recently created, Jonathan Eno, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

advice---remove the puffery. Remove his own quotes about himself;; remove minor awards, It's almost like an ad for him. DGG ( talk ) 10:58, 27 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jonathan Eno BEM moved to draftspace edit

An article you recently created, Jonathan Eno BEM, is labeled as a paid contribution, and must be reviewed by a neutral reviewer. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) . Do not move this into article space yourself. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Robert, that's okay with me, happy to follow the necessary steps! How long do you think it will take for the page to be reviewed? Thanks, --MattHHM (talk) 00:18, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Your draft article, Draft:Hot House Music School LLP edit

 

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jonathan Eno (March 1) edit

 
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Your draft article, Draft:Jonathan Eno edit

 

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 04:21, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply