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Trouted (1)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Hi littleb2009, regarding your recent edit on Block (Internet), it is rare that we link to the Wikipedia namespace from articles. Some of these hatnotes are used in disambiguation pages, however, as these are not themselves articles. It's also worth considering that articles that are already disambiguated, such as this one is with "(Internet)", are less likely to need hatnotes per WP:NOTAMB. I see you're relatively new, so welcome to Wikipedia, let me know if you have any further questions. Best, CMD (talk) 04:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay.

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Trouted (2)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: restoring uncited challenged text, without supplying RS refs, per wp:burden. 2603:7000:2143:8500:255C:D7EC:A4A2:97C6 (talk) 00:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Please point out the specific edit in which this happened. --littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 00:36, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

You reverted this. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meshary_Al-Arada&diff=prev&oldid=1024411132 --2603:7000:2143:8500:255C:D7EC:A4A2:97C6 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I'd really like to point out that this is not a BLP because the person that the article is about had died in 2018. Consequently, it would be a better idea to add {{Citation needed}} tags (which look like this:) instead of deleting the text. --littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 00:45, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, come on, why does reverting non-constructive edits get this complicated?

wp:burden does not apply only to blps. And it states clearly "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." That is clear - it is not the least bit complicated. A failure to edit in accord with wp:burden is problematic. Especially when one uses tools to do so. 2603:7000:2143:8500:255C:D7EC:A4A2:97C6 (talk) 00:54, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey, if I revert a constructive edit because it was in the middle of several vandal edits, then go straight ahead and restore the constructive edit. I always discuss; I don't edit war.

Its not vandalism

It's not vandalism.... I was just asking genuene question about whether an article I wrote counted notable? 72.76.95.136 (talk) 22:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Don't ask me as if I was omniscient. --littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 22:12, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Trouted (3)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Ira Leviton (talk) 22:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I noticed some of the edits that you made on the Typo Team Moss project at Wikipedia:Typo_Team/moss/N. I checked to see how you did one to see if it was the same way I would've handled it, but didn't see any changes at all. So I checked a few others.

I'm not sure if you're doing all of these correctly. If the typos on the Moss page are not corrected on the page on which they appear, nothing is accomplished. As examples, I'm talking about Niobium, where you pointed out that the typos were chemical terms, and North Frisian language, where you said typos fixed as part of a group. Nothing was changed on these pages; without either fixing the typos, tagging them, or making another change, the Moss project software will simply detect them again the next time it's run for that letter. The point is to correct these typos, even if they're not really typos. If they're not changed, then there should be a brief explanation and that entry will eventually be moved to the case notes at the bottom of that Moss page.

Anyway, I made the corrections on those individual pages.

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 22:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Sometimes I make those kinds of mistakes. And that {{Not a typo}} template — Sometimes the article ends up being filled with purple template text everywhere. --littleb2009^{Have a chat?}Signed on Sunday, May 30, 2021 3:23 (I forgot to sign when I posted this comment.)

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OWPC and Partition coefficient

Hi Littleb2009

I think it was you who wanted to be WP:bold when you said I think that there should be a section on the octanol-water partition coefficient in this article but it should have a "main page" link to the actual page on the octanol-water partition coefficient. I'm going to go WP:BOLD and do it unless someone points out an issue with my idea by May 1 on Talk:Partition coefficient. There have not been many comments overall but there were no violent objections. If you are willing to go ahead, I'd certainly support that and this would be preferable than leaving the issue unresolved. Can I leave this to you now? Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Sure, why not? It will take some time though. I'm not extremely active, which is great because that means that I'm not a Wikipediholic. (And yes, "Wikipediholic" is a thing. Click the link.) --littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 02:38, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I hope I'm not, either, although the evidence is equivocal.... Thanks for taking this on and ping me if you need any assistance with the task. Also, the discussion about the merge needs to be formally closed at some point. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I will close the discussion (not sure how but there has to be a policy page about it) after I finish the task. --littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 15:18, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Angry Mob Noticeboard

I appreciate the fixes you did there. And I presume your further edits were done with the understanding that the whole page is purely for the purpose of humor, as are any "requests" made to it. I mean, your editing certainly seemed to be made with that understanding, but you can never be too sure.

In any case, I had damn near forgotten that page existed, and I found our little "conflict" there amusing, and somewhat refreshing in comparison to the self-righteous drama that so much of this project involves. I hope you enjoyed it, as well. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 20:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I enjoyed it too and also knew that page was for humor. Because obviously, I would use WP:ANI for serious things.

By the way, I am not a goddess. Or maybe I am. You can never be sure about whether someone is a goddess or not. ;) littleb2009^{Have a chat?} 21:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Your comment about that RfA

I trust that comment was well-intentioned, but I think it came off as much more flippant than you intended and honestly kind of insulting. Vaticidalprophet 22:09, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 22:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

There, I striked it out. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 22:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

While you don't need to be an administrator, you don't need to not be one either. The canonical example is Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Megalibrarygirl - I would guess that candidate uses her admin tools once in a blue moon, AFAIK has never blocked anyone, and her primary use of the tools is the odd G6 / G13 restore. That doesn't mean she shouldn't have run for RfA, as the community could clearly see she was trustworthy and responsible. I'm sad that Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Yoninah is a redlink - it should be blue with a summary of "Final 275/0/0".

One of the things I was told before starting my RfA some years back was "don't let the tools stop you from creating content", and I've taken over 100 articles through GA and DYK each since then. Indeed, if I'm doing a lot of admin stuff (like this week), alarm bells start ringing and I scramble around to find some content work (which is why said admin work is interspersed with minor updates to a few articles and some copyedits). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:54, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Okay, I get it. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 15:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

discussions

littleb2009, you do not have the experience to be discussing other people's RfA's with them. This can be actually harmful to these people. Please don't do this again until you have personal experience with the person you are talking to and know that your input is helpful. —valereee (talk) 23:15, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Fine, fine, I get it. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 23:16, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

See above, someone already told me. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 23:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Why

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Did my edit on your page make it worse? How was it worse? TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Your account says it's on a wikibreak, so either you forgot to remove the wikibreak notice or the account's compromised. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 16:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes but thats not the point I am asking why you reverted my edit. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:40, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Don't mess with other people's main userpages unless they give permission. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 16:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay but how was my edit worse.

1. I fixed some grammar.

2. I removed a long part so it would be easier to click. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:BOLD does not apply to userpages. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 16:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thats not the reason I changed it. How was it worse? TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Basically, don't change other people's userpages unless they have a userpage that violates policy. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 16:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

See my edits at User:Lightbluerain? Those are examples of helpful edits. How were my edits here not helpful? TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I am not User:Lightbluerain. Also, do not wikilink to people's pages in nearly-unrelated discussions, since it will ping them. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 16:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes you are not them. I proved my point by editing another user page and they did not revert (I did not have permission) and they thanked me. This did not ping them since I used [[ instead of {{ TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Why did you remove the template? Is there a problem with editing in a wikibreak. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @TigerScientist: The basic guidelines say, "Traditionally, Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit." So your edits were not helpful. The only things you should really be changing on Littleb2009's user page are reverts of blatant vandalism or threats from other users, excessive polemic or completely off-topic rants, or moving messages that were supposed to be for the talk page, none of which are on the page as as I look at it now. Please stop. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:06, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Ritchie333 so I can't edit grammar issues and stuff that would clearly make it better? I understand that a user has full power of their user page but my edits were not helpful? I have asked them How were they not helpful so many times. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Ritchie333 clearly they were helpful because their user page now uses my version and they didn't revert my new helpful edit. Case closed. WW3 has ended. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)(edit conflict) (Yes, double edit conflict!) I was about to say the same thing as Ritchie333. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I doubt it TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Also can you answer my question of How were my edits not helpful. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:11, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

}} ]] Closing some brackets. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Ugh, this discussion shouldn't have started! --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you PLEASE answer this question: Why were my edits not helpful? TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:13, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

You did this:

Changed to

Note the closing parentheses without the opening parentheses. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Did you tell me of this error (you could have also just fixed it yourself without starting a whole war.) TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Also you now use my reverted version with the edit fixed meaning without that edit, you wouldn't have changed it. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

You should have suggested the issue with my userpage here, on my talk page, instead of being impulsive. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:26, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Clearly a excuse because it took 6 minutes to say that. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 17:27, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, that's enough. I'm blocking you from editing this user's userspace. Your edits were not helpful because a) they have nothing to do with writing or improving an encyclopedia and b) the user in question didn't want you to make them. It's generally considered polite to leave other people's user pages alone barring the exceptional circumstances I mentioned above. Seriously, nobody else does this. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:28, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: thanks. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 17:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

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