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Hello Ira!Edit

Hi Ira. I was so glad to meet you tonight at WikiWednesday. Had hoped we would have more time to talk and chit chat, especially about Wikipedia and Jewish genealogy. Please reach out if you need anything or have any questions! -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 04:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ira! Sam'kelo Mpungoseh (talk) 00:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


Hello! I moved your creation to User:Ira Leviton/Userboxes/Einstein, as it is unsuited for main article space. Feel free to work on it or host it at your user subpage, sandbox, or elsewhere outside of mainspace. All the best, --Animalparty! (talk) 23:58, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

List of hospitals in New York CityEdit

Thanks for List of hospitals in New York City, it looks like you did a lot of work. I am going to add some of the red linked ones to Wikidata. That way they can appear as places of death within Wikidata. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

You make the decision, should they stay as red links, or link to Wikidata entries such as [[d:Q21905293|Brooklyn Eye and Ear Hospital]] and appear as Brooklyn Eye and Ear Hospital? I could write an entry in Wikipedia but am blocked from creating new entries, my personal Javert just got me blocked from even creating articles in my userspace. I am currently working on Coroner of New York City.


Don't forget to add in the cemetery burials to Wikidata, I added in one for you: Elliot Willensky. Stuff gets deleted on Wikipedia all the time, but Wikidata is more stable. Categories come and go like fashion here, but there, we think of new ways to categorize people all the time. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Harry LorraineEdit

Thanks again for the barnstar and spotting the errors with the two people confused as one. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Gram stain vs. gram-positive vs. gram-negative... etc. etc.Edit

Hello there! I noticed your recent edit to Gram staining where you capitalized "Gram" throughout the article. Actually, this is not as straightforward as it seems. In general when Gram is used as part of a compound adjective (gram-positive, gram-negative, etc.) it is left lowercase. There is a brief explanation of this at the Eponym page as well as some discussion about our specific case at Talk:Gram-negative bacteria and a brief note on the Gram-staining talk page. In general this is the format you'll see from the CDC (sorry you have to scroll down a bit on that one) and other mainstream organizations. I went through the Gram staining page and re-lowercased throughout (except for "Gram stain" which remains uppercase). If you disagree or would like to talk about it, feel free to ping me here or leave a message on my talk page (or post on the Gram staining talk page for a wider audience). Other than that, glad to see someone taking an interest in the Gram staining article! Happy editing!! Ajpolino (talk) 18:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


Don't forget to also add the Findagrave ID to Wikidata, I added your last one. People delete them in Wikipedia, but they are always there at Wikidata. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Your ALLCAPS edits to 2016–17 Coupe de FranceEdit

Hi, Some of the changes you made with this edit to the above article actually broke the sentence case in some of the references, by capitalising words that are not proper nouns.

eg: Coupe de France: Caudebec and Saint-Nicolas eliminated you changed to Coupe de France: Caudebec and Saint-Nicolas Eliminated, but note that all the capitalised words in the sentence before you changed it were proper nouns.

I don't want to revert the whole edit, as some of the changes (moving from all capitals to title case) are valid. I would invite you to revisit this edit and change those which you moved from sentence case to title case back to sentence case. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 09:18, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, wp:ALLCAPS states: Reduce newspaper headlines and other titles from all caps to sentence case or title case. For example, replace the headline "WAR BEGINS TODAY" with "War begins today" or "War Begins Today". (my bold). In the example above, the original edit is equivalent to War begins today and your edit is equivalent to War Beings Today. So you've changed an acceptable per-MOS sentence case to an acceptable per-MOS title case. There is no difference between languages. (Sentence case states: Only the first character of the sentence is capitalised, except for proper nouns and other words which are required by a more specific rule to be capitalised.) Not a massive deal, but I don't think we should really be changing one per-MOS acceptable title to another per-MOS acceptable title. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 12:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your changes, much appreciated. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 08:41, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thanks so much for your proofreading, typo-catching, and other fine corrections throughout Wikipedia! Softlavender (talk) 10:26, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

MV DiscoveryEdit

Hi Ira. Thanks for your edit to the MV Discovery article; however, I have reverted it. I see from your user page that you are American, and Coast Guard is indeed two words in American English, but it is a single word in British English. The reference in the article was to the United Kingdom Maritime and Coastguard Agency, which is the parent body of Her Majesty's Coastguard, so the original spelling was correct. Best wishes, Timothy Titus Talk To TT 19:58, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Amália Revisited editEdit

Thanks for your edit on Amália Revisited, but Bulllet (with 3 Ls) is not a typo :) The artist writes his name like that Anonymous from the 21st century (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank You For Your EditEdit

Hello, I really appreciated your edited on Daniel Padilla article. Best Regards Puchicatos (talk) 05:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Help Edited Spelling Errors on Daniel Padilla ArticleEdit

Hello, would you mind to help fixed spelling errors on Daniel Padilla's article? Thank You in advance Puchicatos (talk) 14:04, 18 February 2017 (UTC)


your recents. good to see. in western Scotland the intermission (my invention) word is aim or aeem in particular females will begin almost every sentence with 'aim'. in southern Java - Indonesian speakers with good english use actually in a similar manner. Keep up the good work, and say hello to the lower west side for me (Manhattan), I miss it. JarrahTree 22:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Governors of TripolitaniaEdit

It doesn't matter we call..it does matter what the Italian government call! For example, between 1917-1922 the governors of Tripolitania were actually governors of two or three cities (Tripoli, Homs, Zuwara)!--Maher27777 (talk) 06:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Ways to improve Kings County District AttorneyEdit

Hi, I'm Seligne. Ira Leviton, thanks for creating Kings County District Attorney!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Great citations! Your "List" could use a more descriptive title. Also, more categories....

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Seligne (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


😃😃Poems! Do you have any on Wikipedia? BulbAtop (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello, Ira Leviton! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Michele di RoccoEdit

Greetings. Per this, please point out where in the MOS it says to artificially fix typos in refs. I've never seen such a rule/guideline, and we certainly don't do it in other contexts (such as misspelt song titles in music albums). Mac Dreamstate (talk) 01:38, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

From what I can see, that MOS section pertains only to quotations of prose text, rather than specifically titles of refs. Also, I strongly believe Wikipedia should be striving for accuracy, even if it means preserving mistakes—the publisher of the ref made an error in the title, but it is not our responsibility to fix it, since it does not make a difference within the article body. I would let the Di Rocco edit slide otherwise, but the issue could carry over into countless other articles unless we get clarification. Should I ask at WT:MOS? 01:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Discussion started here. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Cool, I think that's a reasonable solution across the board—I'll be sure to use the tag myself in future. Nice talking with you, and all the best. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Minor barnstar
I find it unbelievable that I approved New York Herald Tribune as a good article and yet missed repeated "the" not once, but twice. thanks for cleaning my mess up. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:36, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Air & Sea Show Edit

An article that you have been involved in editing—Air & Sea Show —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. WikiVirusC(talk) 04:58, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

The Bronx, ThonksEdit

Thanks for cleaning up the List of People from the Bronx. I never could get the hang of hyphenation, even when I copied another entry -- or maybe because of that! Bellagio99 (talk) 20:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!Edit

  Your name seems to be affiliated with a recent change to my Wikipedia entry (Frank P. Tomasulo). The box seems to suggest that there's something wrong with my entry. I added some citations but the box is still there. What SPECIFICALLY do I (or you) have to do to remove that warning box? I tried editing but to no avail. franktomasulo@yahoo.com. BTW, I was born and grew up in NYC and currently live in Manhattan. How about that CHEESEBURGER?! Ftomasulo (talk) 03:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!Edit

  For spotting the occasions for spotting the occasions where I where I have a tendency have a tendency to say everything twice to say everything twice, [1] [2] here are here are a pair of a pair of stroopwafels for you stroopwafels for you Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:10, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Editing inside quotationsEdit

While I appreciate your efforts at working on style, I must point out that you don't change material inside a direct quotation. This applies to the wire service style which was / is to capitalize the dateline city of origin - it is not a typo. Editorial changes to handle things like misspellings, or in the case of some words that have changed in usage over time (employe / employee comes to mind) are marked [sic] to show that the typo or variation was in the original source. Mark Sublette

The edits I was referring to were items from Military Aircraft Accidents, 1940 - 1944. Personally, as a historian, I try to accurately reflect the source material, and prefer to post the text as it was printed, and note missed keystrokes with [sic]. Also, usage of the language, especially in the press, has evolved over time, and reporting has changed. I don't like to second-guess period style. Mark Sublette

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Copyeditor's Barnstar
For being able to spot two "the"s next to each other without flinching. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:12, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

You "fixed several words"Edit

Thanks for rescuing Castleton.
I am intrigued to understand how on earth you were watching this insignificant article.  Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 13:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Welsh Buzzard,
I must admit your question made me laugh. I had to go back to my contribution history to remember, but since you asked, here's the long answer:
THe Castleton page isn't on my watch list. For the last few months on Wikipedia, I've been doing mostly copy editing. I'm a member of the Typo Team and have been on a search and and destroy mission for duplications of the words 'and' and 'the.' It's boring to do that all the time, so I sometimes click on a link. My edit immediately prior to those on the Castleton article was a deletion of a duplicated 'and' on the Morris Marina article. I can't find a link directly from that page to Castleton, so I may have gone to another page in between, but I wound up on Castleton, and when I saw words that shouldn't have been capitalized, I just couldn't leave them alone.
Ira Leviton (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Ha, ha! The fun of editing WP, hey! Anyway, much appreciated and your good work led me to make a number of revisions following that IP before you. If you care to look at my User page you will see why I have an interest there. All the best. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 14:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:European Parliament election, 2014 (Netherlands) candidate listsEdit

Hi Ira Leviton,

I won't revert your edits again and i did know the guidelines. But i think it's important to realise that the party name and list name are 2 different things. The Dutch election committee follows instructions from party's choice for partylist name. Styling it this way is the way they participated. Since this is a list of the party lists (and not party names) it's strange not to follow the official party list name.

Anyway. Not going not going to edit war you on this or anything. But i take pride in my accuracy.

With kind regards,
--BasBr1 (talk) 20:28, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Blade (comics) moveEdit

There's currently a movie going on at Blade (comics) that you might be interested in since you have edited the article in question recently.★Trekker (talk) 18:45, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


Hello, Ira Leviton. You have new messages at MartinezMD's talk page.
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Hi Ira Leviton, I really like your articles. How can I have youe email address Avazalishah (talk) 04:12, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

A wee barnstarEdit

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Just a quick token of recognition of your exhaustive efforts to improve Wikipedia, Ira. Best regards. :) Kieronoldham (talk) 00:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


Greetings. Could you create the article ru:Build-a-lot in Simple English section of Wikipedia? Thank you. -- The222anonim (talk) 14:58, 28 September 2017 (UTC) UPD: Oh. Excuse me. Actual version on English : Build-a-lot, but, can you translate that on Simple English?

Green Street Courthouse/RepublicanEdit

Re this edit: In many countries outside the US, "Republican" is not usually capitalised. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles#Descriptive nouns and adjectives specifically says to use lowercase. jnestorius(talk) 07:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Not a problem, Jnestorius. The reason I stopped by that page was to correct the duplicate 'the.' While there, I noticed republican as a political party, which gets capitalized in the U.S. although it gets a small 'r' as a simple adjective. If gets a small 'r' as a political party outside of the U.S., then it should be a small 'r' in this article – after all, that's where the reference was made. Thanks, and regards. Ira Leviton (talk) 00:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

List of MLB team nicknamesEdit

I saw you adding nicknames and other changes to list of baseball team nicknames a couple times a week ago. It makes me to ask if you would like to look at the page List of MLB team nicknames I wrote on PlanetStar Wikia four weeks ago that lists lot more nicknames, many of them I came up with, than there are on Wikipedia page. Let me know if you have any thoughts surrounding that. PlanetStar 00:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi - and I apologize for taking so long to answer. I happened on the list of team nicknames because of a typo on it, but being interested in baseball history, I had to add something in addition to fixing the typo. I see nothing wrong with being 'encyclopedic' about team names, although somebody might complain that Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a bunch of lists. As long as there are citations, why not add the other names on your Wikia page to the Wikipedia article? It's currently heavily weighted toward more recently used names, so adding old names, like "Mackmen" for the A's will make that more evenhanded. Team names are one of those lists that can never be complete but there are plenty of those types of lists on Wikipedia too. I say go for it!
Ira Leviton (talk) 02:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Nantucket's neutrality during the American Revolutionary WarEdit

Hi Ira, Thanks for taking an interest in Nantucket's neutrality during the American Revolutionary War, an article that I have found to be problematic owing to its marginal notability and the appearance that it was a school history paper. Perhaps you could take a crack at the lead section. A good summary there could help indicate whether the article focuses on a notable topic. It appears to have some interesting material in the body that probably should find a home in any case. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 13:48, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for your comment. I also thought that this article might have started out as some type of class project, although I thought that it was interesting and about a notable issue. I agree that the lede is weak because it doesn't summarize the topic well and included history that's unimportant to the rest of the article and should have appeared only below the table of contents. There's other stuff in the text, like a bunch of "so-and-so wrote in an article in this journal..." that's unnecessary because it's in the citations. I may have time to work on it next weekend, but I have to think about the lede because I'm not an expert at all in this topic.
Ira Leviton (talk) 02:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply, Ira. I suggest that, since the lede need only summarize the article, it shouldn't require expertise, just an ability to understand, process and write, which you clearly have! Whatever you achieve, will probably be a great improvement, even if the article receives further attention and development from others. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 14:32, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Your edit on Clash of Champions (2017)Edit

Ira, thanks for your edit on Clash of Champions (2017). I noticed you removed the PPV abbreviation in the first sentence. Although it might not be used again in the article right now, it is often later added in the articles, and its actually in the first line of every Impact, WCW and WWE PPV. I understand your rationale for removing but I think it does serve a purpose. Any thoughts on that?

I also notice you recently edited the Israeli Wrestling League article I recently created. I created a bunch of other Israeli wrestling related articles, and a template for them: Template:Professional wrestling in Israel, Professional wrestling in Israel, Ultimate Wrestling Israel, IPWA Heavyweight Championship (Israel), and Tomer Shalom. Any help with a second set of eyes, and with expanding them, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - GalatzTalk 18:41, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments and noticing my edits. I'm on the Wikipedia Typo Team and stopped by both of the pages you mentioned in my almost never-ending search for duplications of the word 'the', which is my current project. (It's a very common typo.) I also remove allcaps and jargon abbreviation when I notice them. Wrestling pages tend to have allcaps, I believe because their magazines have headlines in allcaps and those are pasted as references. It's not a big deal, but it gives me something else to do. As for as abbreviations, I think that almost everybody uses them – including me – but Wikipedia is supposed to be for a general audience and unless it's something like "the U.N.", people may not know what it is. I don't even like to see jargon abbreviation in Wikipedia articles when they're used to save space for a frequently repeated term, since newspapers, for example, tend to successfully avoid them. I don't remove them when they're used 20 times on a page, but when I saw the PPV and that it was used only in the lede, I thought it should be removed. I'm not a fan of wrestling, boxing, or anything that uses PPV, but I knew the abbreviation, but I always think, if a ten-year old kid or my wife is reading an article with jargon, they're not going to know what it means, and they may lose interest and go to another page.
The Israeli Wrestling League page you created is very detailed - you must either be a big fan or spent a huge amount of time researching it - or both. It's tough for me to judge how popular wrestling is in Israel, but if you link it to the right kind of other wrestling articles, you should get a decent number of page views from die-hards in the U.S. and elsewhere that way.
Ira Leviton (talk) 19:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, the Hebrew WP was big help for the IWL article. The Professional wrestling in Israel and Tomer Shalom needed to be created from scratch though. Professional wrestling and Israel related articles on WP are where I focus most of my efforts so WP, so it only made sense to combine the two and start working on those articles.
I always let WP fill in the reference for me, and therefore yes, it just takes the all caps from the article itself which uses all caps. Unfortunately you will therefore find the same cap issues in the articles I mentioned above. - GalatzTalk 19:39, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Your edit on Peter Corke (2017)Edit

Ira, I noticed your edits and requests for clarification on Peter Corke. This page is about me so not quite sure the process given WP COI guidelines. You've expanded CSIRO to its full and formal name, but since the 1980s the organisation only refers to itself as CSIRO. It's not an acronym, there are no dots. Maybe expand it out the first time and give the short name in parentheses. You've added matrix laboratory as an expansion for MATLAB, and although that is where the name came from in the 1970s when it was a university project, the company MathWorks founded in 1984 never refer to this meaning for MATLAB. ICT stands for Information and Communications Technology, a fairly well known term in Australia and Europe, it recognises that for IT systems today the communications/networking is super important. But if you expand out CSIRO ICT Centre you no longer have the name of the organisation, it was known internally and externally as CSIRO ICT Centre or even CSIRO ICTC. It's tricky when the contraction becomes the normal way of referring to a thing. Finally, "take up a chair" is a British idiom for becoming a professor. Unlike the US, in the Australia and the UK not all academics are professors: academics rise through the ranks of lecturer, senior lecturer, reader (increasingly associate professor), professor.

Peter.corke (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2017 (UTC)



I will try to fix the article – either later today or tomorrow, using the information in your message. (As you can probably tell, I hate jargon abbreviations. But if they're explained properly and used properly, then they're OK.)

You taught me a Britishism! (I've wanted to take up a chair many times, but only to use it on somebody from behind.)

And you're right about conflicts of interest, but I'm sure that it can be fixed without you having to do anything.

Ira Leviton (talk) 21:31, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


Hi Peter,
I made some edits that I think solve the problems. Please see if they make sense to you too.
Ira Leviton (talk) 18:56, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Rahul Kumar KambojEdit

Hi, you also make some changes in the article of Rahul Kumar Kamboj. The article is being considered for deletion. Maybe you can also share your opinion with discussion. Thanks. GoPro (talk) 06:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


Jewish history

Thank you for quality articles such as Dennis Edwards Jr., Tina Levitan and Congregation Shaare Zedek Cemetery, for "additions, corrections, references, etc.", for "I think it's a good thing when knowledge can be created or distributed at no cost.", for the cute infobox of yourself, - Ira, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1827 of Precious, a prize of QAI, and Happy 2019! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

... two years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Removal of the all capital letters on the Hawaii missile alert articleEdit

Please review the references for the all capital letters that you removed from the Hawaii missile alert article. The references clearly show all capital letters. (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!Edit

  Thanks for your typo fixes! Marquardtika (talk) 05:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

New Page ReviewingEdit

Hello, Ira Leviton.

I've seen you editing recently and you seem like an experienced Wikipedia editor.
Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. —usernamekiran(talk) 16:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!Edit

  The Typo Team Barnstar
Dear Ira,  
Thank you very much for your contributions to the Typo Team, and for your unswerving commitment to improving our encyclopedia! It's really great to have you on board!!!  
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 20:29, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

linking to wikidataEdit

Did you have an opinion on linking the defunct NYC hospital entries to that do not have a Wikipedia article to their entries in Wikidata? --RAN (talk) 01:57, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ):

Hi Richard,
First, I have to apologize for taking so long to reply. It was good to hear from you again. I've been thinking about your question for a while (too long, I admit). I think that in general, redlinks should be left as an encouragement to write Wikipedia articles. Even though some of the defunct hospitals in New York City are pretty insignificant to most people, there are many things that have Wikipedia articles even though in my opinion they're much less significant. Maybe it's my interest in New York City history and my consequent bias that everything in New York City is significant, but I'm hoping that even if it's not soon, the defunct hospitals will have articles in a few years.
I have to also admit that my motivation for writing today was coming across my mother's birth certificate. The location of her birth was recorded as "J.M.H." It took some investigating, but I discovered that those were the initials of [[Jewish Maternity Hospital] - which motivated me to write an article for it (it's in the mainspace as of a few minutes ago). So even if nobody else writes any articles on defunct hospitals in N.Y.C., I should get the list done in about 200 years or so.
Ira Leviton (talk) 15:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Are you working on your genealogy? Have you been to Familysearch, the Mormon website? Did you take one the DNA tests? Ancestry or 23andme? Many of my entries are for the same reason, mostly cemeteries and obscure reference books. You can also add your grandparents to Wikidata, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20726678, as a way to store all the places you keep information on them. --RAN (talk) 20:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Edits with ReferencesEdit

Dear Ira Leviton,

I noticed you are a reviewer of different topics and you already approved several edits on many pages on Wikipedia.

Please I need your help as I have edits with references, I want these edits to be reflected on my company's page on Wikipedia, how can I guarantee the edits will be approved by you or other reviewers?

Please feel free to contact me on sfseed3@gmail.com or to write on my Talk Page on Wikipedia.

Thanks in advance

--SFlowerSeed (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Editor of the WeekEdit

  Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your improvement of the product. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Active beginning in 2015, Ira has a New York focus but does work in all the spheres of the Wiki. Over 43000 edits with 97% to mainspace. Uses the edit summary 99% of the time. Believes in disseminating knowledge and information. Add facts, links, and references, correct errors, and tries to improve the encyclopedia where he can. List of hospitals in New York City is an article that displays his work. A WP:Typo Team member, he has created 25 articles.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

Ira may be a NY Mets fan
Ira Leviton
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning March 25, 2018
Since 2015, Ira's New York focus works at disseminating knowledge and information in all the spheres of the Wiki. Over 43000 edits with 97% to mainspace: uses edit summary 99% of the time. Constantly adding facts, links, references and correcting errors.
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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7  01:39, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi and thank you for the award and the call-out. You got me by surprise. (And yes, I am a long-suffering New York Mets fan.) I will certainly proudly display this on my user page.
Ira Leviton (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

about Shigeaki Kato's pageEdit

Hi! Ira Leviton, you changed to "small letter capital" from "big letter capital" of group name in 「Shigeaki Kato」 page. but the group name big letter capital is correct. you can see the reason why in「NEWS (band)」page.thanks.--Katanori04 (talk) 05:34, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!Edit

please help translate this message into your local language via meta
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In 2017 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 02:47, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

wrong preposition Raghib_al-NashashibiEdit

The phrase and mayor of Jerusalem in 1920–1934. should be and mayor of Jerusalem from 1920-1934. This conforms to British and American use of prepositions. I've been doing this for a decade, Ira, but I don't know how to alter that background section, which is a newer feature. I noticed that you also like proof-reading, so I'm asking you for a how-to. It's possible that the original sentence was in 1920, then someone added -1934, but neglected to update the preposition. MichelleInSanMarcos (talk) 20:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

You are 10)% correct about that prepositional phrase. I made the correction – just look at the coding on the edit tab of the page to see how I did it. I also changed the dash to 'to'.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Western Governors UniversityEdit


As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know that I've started WikiProject Western Governors University, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of WGU. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! Paul Smith111977 (talk) 08:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Cutty-sark (witch)‎Edit

Hi, I'm confused. You removed the word "ironically" from the article Cutty-sark (witch)‎, citing the manual of style, where we are warned against using that word as a peacock word. However, I reverted that, explaining that in this article the word is being used in it's correct sense: when we say that this line in the poem is ironic, we are making a scholarly statement about the literary device of irony which the poet used; we are NOT saying that we find it casually ironic that he did that. You thanked me for the edit - and then re-reverted as though you had not read my comment. Was this an error? --Doric Loon (talk) 17:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Doric Loon:
The error is mine. I understood your original comment and agreed with it, and my second deletion was an error. I've reinserted the word. My apologies.
Ira Leviton (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Wonderful. No problem at all. --Doric Loon (talk) 18:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Ironically ...Edit

YES! - thank you, drives me nuts. Well done. DBaK (talk) 21:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: I've deleted that word from hundreds of pages. One of my many pet peeves. Thousands to go, though.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:24, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Please keep at it! Wikipedia needs your peeve-rage! Cheers DBaK (talk) 00:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

You made my day! Thank you!!Edit

Ira, thank you for being such a kind human being. I was truly touched when I signed on to Wikipedia today, and found that you had awarded me "The Women's History Barnstar" ... for "ongoing contributions in this area, particularly for their quality and the research behind them." I'm sitting here with a big smile on my face. Thank you (and thank YOU for all of your wonderful work). Have a great week! 47thPennVols (talk) 03:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

gold mineEdit

Coastal_radio_station_VIN_Geraldton - interestingly some interestingly scintilating terminology in this one JarrahTree 14:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
[3] Thank you for your wikignoming!! Tom (LT) (talk) 00:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Your nice edit at the Silence filmEdit

Last month you made a nice little edit at Silence (2016 film). Today I noticed that another editor appears to have made a long sequence of edits expanding the plot there well over WP:Filmplot length limit. Since that editor does not ever answer Talk page could you consider doing a rollback to restore the article. JohnWickTwo (talk) 17:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Another editor was able to assist. JohnWickTwo (talk) 22:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Your anti-editorializing editsEdit

I'm glad someone is working on that gnomish task. I just ask that you be more careful. There's no reason to remove words like "interestingly" from a quote as you did at Navy Working Uniform. Removing editorializing in wikipedia's voice is fine, but when we quote, we cannot alter someone else's editorilization, as reflected in that quote. Please keep that in mind. oknazevad (talk) 23:09, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Oknazevad:: You are absolutely correct. I was going too fast and didn't realize that it was part of a quotation, and will pay more attention and be more careful in the future.
Ira Leviton (talk) 05:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

HMS ActifEdit

Hi Ira, I suspect that the crew who were saved would agree with the "fortunately". I suspect that even the French would have endorsed the lack of drownings. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin::
Hi Acad Ronin,
I'm certain you're correct. But even if both sides of the battle thought it was fortunate, the impartial, non-judgmental, non-editorializing, impassive Wikipedia doesn't. So, to paraphrase Sergeant Joe Friday alleged quotation, my edit was for "Just the facts."

A Dobos torte for you!Edit

  7&6=thirteen () has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.

To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Duplicate 'the'Edit

Thank you for noticing the duplicate 'the' in my Thessaloniki Metro station articles, and replacing it! --Michail (blah) 22:52, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Question about fixing typosEdit

I've been correcting typos for a long time but just recently found your Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss. I deleted the words that I corrected, and moved words that were correct to the notes section, with an explanation, because that's what I thought was the correct thing to do. But after seeing strikethroughs and re-reading the instructions, now I"m not sure if I did things correctly. Which do you prefer?

By the way, your program is a great service – it makes fixing typos quite a bit more efficient. Thank you.

Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 12:24, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, the way you did it was great and is pretty close to the way I do it myself. Some people like to see strikethroughs because it gives them a sense of what's been accomplished so far. Most of the sections these days, (including the main by-article sections which are currently working on articles beginning with "A", and the by-frequency sections that are posted for a-m and n-z on different cycles), only have part of the alphabet posted. For those I tend to do removals when I'm fixing typos, since it makes it easier to find items that still need to be done, and everything will get removed at the end of the cycle anyway - the only thing I keep are items where someone has left a note about a problem or specific work to be done on that item, and if there are no strikethroughs those stick out more clearly. Usually other editors come by and remove entire sections when they are full of nothing but strikethroughs, and that's definitely a nice feeling. 8) There are a few sections (which I think most people don't bother working on) where the whole alphabet gets reposted every time, and for those it'll always say at the top of the section to please use strikethroughs or leave a note for finished items in that section. That's because I need to manually remove any items that got worked on during the few days between the "snapshot" of the database dump (which is always on the 1st or 20th of the month) and when that database dump is finished being processed (which is a few days later). You don't necessarily have to move things to the notes section, BTW; there may be some other editors who will come by and add correct words to Wiktionary so they don't show up on future runs. I usually leave the notes sections behind when I remove an old dump because I'm about to post a new one, but I don't want to lose the comments people made because they obviously put work into them. But hey, maybe it makes it easier for those folks who want to add words to the dictionary to find them if they're all in one section. If it gets them out of your way to make it easier to find words that are spelled incorrectly, or you just like being helpful, feel free to keep doing that. Hopefully that long rambling explanation makes sense? Fortunately, we don't have to worry too much because anything that falls through the cracks will be back in a cycle or two if the system thinks it's not fixed. And thanks very much to you as well for helping out with the project! These reports would be fairly useless without the community of volunteers who are using them to fix typos for readers. -- Beland (talk) 00:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Alcubierre DriveEdit

Is the word you think doesn't exist "unobtainably" or "large"? SpinningSpark 18:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi Spinning Spark,
The word was 'unobtainable'. I was using Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss to find typos, and it was picked up as a misspelling of unobtainable. The adverb form, 'unobtainably', doesn't exist. If you think I changed the meaning with unattainable and want to replace it with another word, that's fine with me.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 18:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with your edit as such. I'm just interested in why unobtainably isn't a word. I'm seeing a few (not many) gbook results for it, and usage is the usual test of whether a word actually exists. SpinningSpark 18:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


I believe that Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss uses Wiktionary as its database. (But I didn't think it was a word, either.) The person with the user name "Beland" made this tool, so you can ask him/her if that's correct. I suppose it's possible that it doesn't have an entry on Wiktionary.
FYI, I'll be off line for a couple of hours so I won't be able to respond right away.
Ira Leviton (talk) 18:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I've added hundreds of words to Wiktionary and its still no more finished than Wikipedia, so non-existence there is not firm evidence, although it's usually a good sign. Unless it's considered a common error, I'm inclined to add it too. SpinningSpark 19:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


Feel free to do so – I think that's an excellent idea. Once it's there, Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss won't detect it as a spelling error or typo, so it won't be picked up by others who use that. It seems to be a word that's accepted by some but not by everybody – so you'll be contributing to the English language!
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Art PollardEdit

I have a scrap book of football programs, newspaper articles, pictures, lots of stuff and in great condition of Loyola high school in the 40s and it all has to do with Al Pollard.do you know anyone who would be interested in it m — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:36, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


Can you please help edit the following draft to meet wikipedia guidlines. Thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Chandreshekar_Sonwane Rocketscience144 (talk) 04:35, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Not a typoEdit

Re this edit, diaconal is not a typo, it is an adjective which you will find in standard dictionaries. DuncanHill (talk) 11:22, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Ignore the above, my mistake! But note that diaconian is probably not a typo - it has to do with a diaconia. DuncanHill (talk) 11:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

"fixing" boldingEdit

Regarding this edit [4] in which you "fixed" the bolding, I'd be interested to know how you came to the conclusion that it needed fixing? These park names each redirect to this article and the bolding helps readers be sure they've found the content they were looking for. This is supported by the manual of style. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm usually not in favor of using bolds too often, because it can make the typography difficult to read. But I see your point.
I've also fixed two more typos that I noticed when I looked back at the page, and added another link. I will also be adding Crooked Creek and Johnson Lake to the disambiguation pages for these names, although they'll be redlinked. All of these should have their own pages... eventually.
Thanks for your comment.
Ira Leviton (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good, and for the record I make a lot of typos so I really do appreciate the efforts of those that fix them. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
For kicks, I made a new page at Johnson Lake (Kenai Peninsula Borough, Alaska). Feel free to add, modify, or link to it.
I also have a question - on the Kasilof River page, is there supposed to be a word ("with" or "at"?} before "the Slackwater boat launch"?
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 23:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Good catch, I added "at." Beeblebrox (talk) 19:40, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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Winter Gardens Pavilion, Weston-super-Mare & "sic" in refernceEdit

Hi, You added a "sic" template to a reference in the Winter Gardens Pavilion, Weston-super-Mare article as the typo is in the source but this means the reference (Ref 20) is now showing a CS1 error "URL–wikilink conflict". Any idea how to fix this?— Rod talk 16:07, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi Rod,
It looks like somebody already fixed this. If it still doesn't look right to you, let me know, I know another way of fixing it.
My apologies for not doing it right the first time, I should have known to include the additional coding.
Ira Leviton (talk) 01:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks - fixed by User:Gilo1969.— Rod talk 08:13, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Spring versus LentEdit

Hi, are you sure this edit is a good idea? If it's the "Lent" issue of some magazine, shouldn't we be keeping their -- the magazine's -- dating? Would we change a "Michaelmas" issue of an Oxford University society publication to read "Autumn" in the reference, even if Michaelmas is how it described itself?

There's also the complication that Lent occurs in the Spring in the northern hemisphere, but in the Fall in the southern hemisphere. If the magazine was an Australian one, or the article subject an Australian, would you change "Lent" to "Autumn" instead of to "Spring"? This can all get confusing quite quickly! MPS1992 (talk) 21:07, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't have a strong feeling about it, and I couldn't find anything specific for this in the Manual of Style. I just wanted to avoid the red letters that said "check format in date section". If you think it should stay, I won't mind you changing that part back to 'Lent'.
Ira Leviton (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
There are no red letters in the article. What is producing them, and how do we fix it? MPS1992 (talk) 21:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I suppose it's a CS1 thing.
Separately, MOS:SEASON refers to the wider point. MPS1992 (talk) 21:32, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

new memberEdit

hello from carrollton,ga!

I'm a new member in the typo team and have recently been correcting some typos

just saying this as a heads-up!

LYON 02:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

dear iraEdit

your work has and always will be appreciated LYON 04:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talkcontribs)


Thank you for your kind words. And welcome to the Typo Team and keep going! The more people we have, the better Wikipedia will be! Thanks.
Ira Leviton (talk) 05:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

did not think you would respond — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talkcontribs) 05:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

status update (ira)Edit

been working on the typos for a while — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talkcontribs) 05:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

5 more typosEdit

hey ira there are 5 typos but they seem like they are correct any advice on what I should do?

Clonmoyle West - wikt:bhoth

Cloone - wikt:amenty Clothes iron - wikt:gusing

Clover Leaf Seafoods - wikt:salteries
Clovis Hugues - wikt:majoral

bradleyagin 06:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

I move the typos that I think are correct and not typos to the bottom of the page, and add a brief explanation. Just take a look at the bottom of the C page. On the A and B pages, last time I looked, the list of not-typos and explanations were all that was left. They may be gone now if Beland has started to process them.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 02:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

5 more typos replyEdit


bradleyagin 16:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

A cookie for you!Edit

  That was fun, tag-teaming the remainder of "D", and we got it done for the new year! Schazjmd (talk) 14:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
@Schazjmd: Thank you, and yes it was. Beland was pretty quick to make the D page available after C was finished, so I expect E will follow shortly. I tagged him in this message so he sees it next time he's online.
Ira Leviton (talk) 15:42, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
@Schazjmd and Ira Leviton: Wow, the two of you have made amazing progress! I was hoping to get a new dump processed before you finished D, but while we're waiting for that, I've posted E. Thanks again for all your dedicated typo squashing! -- Beland (talk) 19:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

Hey, if you ever wonder whether clicking "thanks" on a revision makes a difference, let me tell you that it does. I joined the typo team because it seemed like an area where I could help - low barrier to entry. (Editing Wikipedia is complicated!) Getting a notice is exciting! And someone saying thanks made me feel good! I'm gradually getting my sea legs and becoming more confident in my edits, but your initial thanks for my spelling corrections meant a lot. :) Jenniferz (talk) 07:36, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jenniferz and Jenniferz:
Thank you for your message. I apologize for not replying sooner.
Welcome to the Typo Team. I hope I see many corrections from you, and for a long time. I strongly believe that this is a way not just to make Wikipedia better, but to improve the world. I concede that it's crazy, but I think that the most valued acknowledgements are from other members of the Typo Team, who I don't even know. It's tough to explain but something that is done for somebody but not noticed by its recipients or cannot be repaid is the highest form of a good deed. Please excuse my momentary nutiness.
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!Edit

  The 2018 Cure Award
In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you...Edit

For catching and fixing all the typos I have left in my ship articles. In each article there comes a point when I just no longer see them. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 02:51, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin:
Hi and thank you for the message. I confess to having the same problem, and not just on Wikipedia.
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi, how do I do a clean up of ALL CAPS in one go, for example your recent edit to John Hick (politician)? There are a few more articles that need sorting out. Regards80.229.34.113 (talk) 18:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi - I'm not sure how else to respond to an IP address, so I hope you check back here. The only way I know how to do replace ALLCAPS is by tedious retyping. It's a pain when there are a lot of references with titles in ALLCAPS, and I have spent long times on some articles, like those about wrestlers, because their fan magazines frequently use ALLCAPS and are used as citations. If there are foreign letters or characters, it's even more tedious. I wish I knew a better way. (And don't forget to cite the Wikipedia Manual of Style in your edit summary so your edits aren't reverted by those who think ALLCAPS are supposed to be copied from sources.)
Ira Leviton (talk) 19:27, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks, alas no short cuts. (talk) 12:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

What would be rightEdit

I saw you fixed tense in the article on Little Lake (Peterborough). I am not comfortable with the changes:

  1. Adam Scott built a sawmill and grist-mill on the south edge of Little Lake. Scott Plains would eventually grow to become the city of Peterborough. The first British settlers arrived early in the 19th century.
  2. Adam Scott built a sawmill and grist-mill on the south edge of Little Lake. Scott Plains grew to become the city of Peterborough. The first British settlers arrived early in the 19th century.

Did Scott Plains grow to become the city of Peterborough before the first British settlers arrived?

  1. L.H. Baird made a survey of the route of what would become the Trent–Severn Waterway connecting Lake Huron to Lake Ontario, and following his recommendation locks were built
  2. L.H. Baird made a survey of the route of what became the Trent–Severn Waterway connecting Lake Huron to Lake Ontario, and following his recommendation locks were built

Were the locks built before or after the route became the waterway?

  1. Canalizing the Otonabee River... would open a continuous line of navigable water from Healey Falls to Balsam Lake, and was the subject of much discussion in the 1890s.
  2. Canalizing the Otonabee River... opened a continuous line of navigable water from Healey Falls to Balsam Lake, and was the subject of much discussion in the 1890s.

Did the discussion occur before or after the river was canalized? Was it in fact canalized?

The forms "would grow", "would become", "would open" imply consequences that were going to happen some time in the future. They are followed by statements about more immediate events.

  • Trump showed entrepreneurial interests while in high school. He became a wealthy man. He graduated in 1964.

Minor quibbles. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:04, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm a member of WP:Typo Team and landed on the page using Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss. I'm not a fan of using "would" because it can also imply something conditional, but I see your point. I should have also rearranged the sentences to be chronological, which may have required other adjustments to the wording. If you want to do that, or just change the sentences back to the way they were, either way is fine. (Just remember to keep the typo correction, which was a missing space after a period.)
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
I would say that "would" is a respectable modal verb, and hope that you would agree. It typically refers to a time in the future from the viewpoint of a time in the past, but could also be used refer to a possibility, wish, intention etc. I would like to give examples, but that could make this reply too long. In the first two Little Lake cases "would" refers to events that had not happened at the time being described, but were to happen much later: the growth of the city and the creation of the waterway. The third example could and should be taken to mean that people in the 1890s were discussing what the costs and benefits would be if they were to canalize the river. At the time this was just a possibility, but the lift lock would in fact be opened in 1904. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
I caught your use of "would" in your reply and saw your reversion of my edits and adding back the missing space. But I didn't understand it in your edit summary. You should've just said "it was better". 😍
Ira Leviton (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

hi, you're invited to an RfC discussion regarding Bruno Bettelheim articleEdit

The controversy reminds me of "Dr. Laura," a psychotherapist with her original title from a degree in physiology.

Here are two obscure mentions of the scholar. (1978) Feb 11 "The Uses of Enchantment-The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales" by Bruno Bettelheim, child psych[o]logist. 10 AM-4 PM, Room 1105, Basic Sciences Bldg, School of Medicine, UCSD, fee, bring lunch, coffee provided, 452-3400. http://web.archive.org/web/20190603192559/https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb1230249d/_1.pdf

Workshop on teaching kids to read (MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1985) In an age of video games and television reruns, many parents and teachers are finding it increaSingly more difficult to teach and encourage children to read. On November 16, internationally renowned child psychologist Bruno Bettelheim, Ph.D., will conduct a one-day workshop through UCSD Extension on problems in teaching children to read. Bettelheim, known for his work with autistic children, will discuss why and how children teach themselves to read, the books that stimulate or dull a child's mind, factors in the home environment that encourage or discourage love of reading, the emotional factors that cause a child to block a word, and how a child's misreading can be seen as intuition rather than as a mistake. Bettelheim, a professor of education and professor of psychology emeritus at the University of Chicago, is the author of a number of books, including his most recent (with Karen Zelan), On Learning to Read: The Child's Fascination With Meaning. The one-day workshop will be held from 8:30 am-5:00 pm. Saturday, November 16 at UCSD Extension. The fee is $95. For further information, call 452-3400. https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb0888466p/_1.pdf MichelleInSanMarcos (talk) 19:44, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

As a relatively recent contributor to the article, you're invited to a Request for Comment (RfC) discussion on the article's lead sentence. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 18:14, 3 May 2019 (UTC)


  The Guidance Barnstar
Your talk page note and detailed edit summary at Nilphamari District are helpful guidance for new recruits and old salts alike, with regard to best practices around foreign words. The Islamic education levels ebtedayee (elementary), dakhil (secondary), alim (higher secondary), fazil (B.A.), and kamil (M.A.) are probably originally Arabic, borrowed into Bengali the way "madrasah" has been into English. I see them in many articles about Bangladesh and Bengal, and now have concrete pointers about how to handle them. Worldbruce (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, and for the barnstar. The only word that was detected by the Wikipedia:Typo_Team/moss typo detector was fajil, so that was the one I tagged. But I will put the transliteration template on all the other Bengali words because the typo detectors will likely get more sophisticated with time, and the templates don't change the way anything appears.
Ira Leviton (talk) 18:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)


Hi, Ira. We communicated previously about an article. I just noticed your professional speciality. Could you please have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overwhelming_post-splenectomy_infection#Mechanism I've previously included the malarial parasite, and I am sure it was edited out. Perhaps you have a decent enough reference that will please future editor-readers. I have yet to see published research on the difference between surgical and traumatic asplenia. Many thanks! MichelleInSanMarcos (talk) 19:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Question on New London Chamber EnsembleEdit

I'm curious about your edit summary on New London Chamber Ensemble (Replaced the jargon abbreviation found with Wikipedia:Typo_Team/moss and reduced ALLCAPS. Please see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters.) The acronym for New London Chamber Ensemble isn't "jargon", they use it themselves in their content, and the references writing about them use it as well. I also don't understand pointing to MOS:CAPS when MOS:CAPSACRS on that page says we do use all caps for acronyms. I had just edited the article to change the repeated use of the acronym in all lowercase (nlce). I have no problem with the changes to remove the acronym, but your objections don't make sense to me so I was wondering if you could explain your reasoning. Thanks! Schazjmd (talk) 20:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

It looks like I was going too fast on the New London Chamber Ensemble page. I didn't realize that you had just made your edit until I read your comment, although I should have realized that I was looking at NLCE in upper case and the Typo_Team/moss tool had detected it in lower case, I assume as a typo for 'nice'. I made two corrections on the page. I labelled the typo correction as jargon; I generally don't like these types of abbreviations in Wikipedia, and considered NLCE jargon because it's recognized only by people already familiar with the ensemble, not the other 99.9% of Wikipedia readers. I can see the point of an abbreviation like this if it's used repeatedly to save space (and I don't have the patience to remove it 40 times, either), but even then, abbreviations are often used incorrectly, like for plurals or possessive cases, or if they were said out loud each time, sentences sound very stilted and repetitive. The ALLCAPS part of my summary was for the second correction in my edit – the clarinetist's name appeared in ALLCAPS in a reference title, which I reduced to title case.
It always makes me chuckle to figuratively bump into somebody on while fixing these typos – it means that people care about improving the delivery of information on Wikipedia. I hope to keep bumping into you.


Ira Leviton (talk) 20:50, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate the explanation, @Ira Leviton:, I trust your experience and judgement so I figured I'd done something incorrectly but wasn't sure what it was. I didn't catch the name in all caps. Thanks for your time!   Schazjmd (talk) 20:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, and I will slow down a little. Ira Leviton (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Great work on the typos, but ...Edit

I just noticed this edit. As per MOS:COMPASS, "south-east" etc are ok in British English and this extends to Australian English. These aren't typos. But overall thank you for all the good work I see you doing in my watchlist. Kerry (talk) 06:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

@Kerry Raymond:
You are correct, of course, and I shouldn't have corrected those. I think I landed on that page to correct another typo, which had already been corrected, so I looked for something else to do. Instead, I was looking for trouble.
And thank you for using the 'thanks' feature so often – I notice and appreciate it.
Ira Leviton (talk) 11:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of NCAA Division I Baseball Championships recent history for deletionEdit


A discussion is taking place as to whether the article NCAA Division I Baseball Championships recent history is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NCAA Division I Baseball Championships recent history until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jay Jor (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Copy edits at Nepal Trade Union CongressEdit

Hi - thanks for your edits to the NTUC page. However, in general, trade unions are referred to by their acronym, referring to the NTUC as trades congress would be confusing as there are many trades congresses (eg Australia, UK, New Zealand) and within Nepal there are multiple national centres.--Goldsztajn (talk) 10:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I generally don't like using abbreviations and acronyms (OK, I detest them) unless they're very well-known, like NATO, because they tend toward jargon and make information harder for the average reader to understand. Despite the large population of Bangladesh, my guess is that 99% of Wikipedia readers are unfamiliar with NTUC acronym, or use the same acronym for something else (see the NTUC disambiguation page). I concede that abbreviations and acronyms are useful in certain situations, such as saving space because of repetitive use or because a name is very long, but Wikipedia is for a general readership, not just those already familiar with a subject. I don't think that a newspaper article about this topic would use this acronym except as a space saver. I also want to point out that the NTUC page doesn't say that the Nepal Trade Union Congress is usually called NTUC. Additionally, the Nepali Congress is abbreviated NCP on the NTUC page, but is NC on its own page (another unnecessary abbreviation, since it's used only twice), leading me to believe that neither of those are usually used, or at least one of them is wrong.
I think Wikipedia is a great invention but it has some weak points - one of them is the writing. A lot of editors write about topics they know, which can be good for content, but very few have a formal education in writing or are innately good writers, which makes the delivery of that content a problem. Jargon, which is often used when people are familiar with a topic, contributes to the suboptiomal delivery of information.
Thanks for reading.
Ira Leviton (talk) 11:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi - Stylistically, I would agree with you and personally try to avoid the use of acronyms. However, if the target is a general readership (and that per se is a heavily loaded concept) then one would normally expect to present information in the most common, widely understood form. Wikipedia doesn't have an article entitled Issur Danielovitch for obvious reasons. In the organised labour project we have always included the acronym of a union and, in general, articles about a trade union use the acronym of that union throughout. See, for example, Trades Union Congress, AFL–CIO, Australian Council of Trade Unions. Most discussion of trade unions in newspapers (and most other media) refers to trade unions by their acronyms. Nepali Congress is NC, NCP is the Nepal Communist Party, have fixed that. The abbreviations of the political parties are registered for the purposes of elections and widely used in Nepal. I can't disagree with your wider points about quality of content, but I'm an inclusionist in almost every sense and if I judged Wikipedia's content by my own educational and professional standards, then 90+% of the articles here would probably be sitting in draftspace....which would not be of much use to anyone. Wikipedia will probably be round for centuries, we've got a lot of time.--Goldsztajn (talk) 13:13, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi again. Would you mind, then, adding a sentence or phrase somewhere stating that it's usually called or known as NTUC, for people (like me) who don't know that, so the jargon-haters (like me) don't try to replace it in the future. Other pages will probably need that too. Thanks.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Don ZimmerEdit

You added info about Zimmer's father owning a wholesale produce business with no new reference, and the existing reference doesn't include that information. Your stylistic edits were good, but I'd rather let you do those over without the undocumented info. Regards Tapered (talk) 09:32, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. The information that I added is documented in his New York Times obituary, the already cited reference. Please search that page for the word 'wholesale' or count paragraphs and check paragraph 17 for his father's job, and paragraph 18 for his date of marriage.
Ira Leviton (talk) 10:56, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


This spellchecker doesn't seem to know the difference between biannual (twice a year) and biennial (once every two years}. Can you sort the problem out? Thanks User:plucas58 23 June 2019 Plucas58 (talk) 01:04, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Oops!-on further examination it appears I spelled the word incorrectly as biennual - a subtle blend of the two - and only the context would indicate which version was intended.Plucas58 (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I apologize for taking so long to answer – I had ignored my messages for a few days. It seems that the spellchecker is functioning after all. Well, I make typos, too. Ira
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

100,000th edit!Edit

  100,000th edit award
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your 100,000th edit! You are now entitled to place the 100,000 Edit Star on your bling page! or you could choose to display the {{User 100,000 edits}} user box. Or both! Cheers, — MarnetteD|Talk 04:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@MarnetteD: Thank you for noticing, and for the star! I've put a copy on my barnstars page. Ira
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
You are most welcome Ira. Cheers to the next 100 thou :-) MarnetteD|Talk 04:00, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Wow, I'm in awe, Ira Leviton! Thank you for all you've contributed! Schazjmd (Talk) 13:00, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@Schazjmd: Thank you for the compliment. (You can do it, too!) Ira
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Luther Clegg houseEdit

May I ask how you found the details you have and if you are related? Zerodroprob (talk) 02:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


I don't think you meant this message to go to me. I simply deleted a word that shouldn't be used. Please look back at the edit history of the page for the right editor.

Ira Leviton (talk) 03:59, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I did just that. Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerodroprob (talkcontribs) 10:27, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Removal of abbreviations in Lead (electronics)Edit

Hi Ira! I'm contacting you regarding this edit.

First, you wrote in your comment that you "don't know how to contact somebody with a redlinked user name". This is very simple – just leave a message at the talk page. Redlinked user name means the user does not have a user page, but this doesn't say anything about his/her user talk page. For example, my user page doesn't exist, but my user talk page does. Moreover, even if a user's talk page doesn't exist, you can create it and post a message there, and the user will be notified (unless s/he has disabled notifications deliberately).

Second, regarding your deletions of abbreviations. As you mentioned in your edit comment, "Wikipedia is for general audiences, not just those familiar with the subject" – that's exactly the reason why I expanded every subject-specific abbreviation at its first appearance. However, there is no requirement not to use abbreviations / acronyms in Wikipedia articles; actually, an article on a subject should use the terminology that is used in sources dealing with the subject. Abbreviations are widely used in sources dealing with the field, and IMHO actually make the article more readable (given that they are expanded at the first use).

Best regards,
DmitTrix (talk) 16:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Typo toolsEdit

Hello! I wonder if I can ask what kind of automated tools (if any) you are using to clear the typos so quickly? ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I have to admit that I just turn on some music and spend way too much time editing Wikipedia, and don't use any bots or automated systems. There's also a public place where I edit and watch sports at the same time. I think the key is avoiding distractions and finding a rhythm to go down one of the alphabetical lists. You can do it!
Ira Leviton (talk) 13:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you kindly!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 14:01, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
FYI I have found this extension to Firefox to be very helpful in reducing clicks.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:17, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


  The Copyeditor's Barnstar
I could not find a "King of typo-correction" barnstar, so this will have to suffice.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@ThatMontrealIP:Thank you!
Ira Leviton (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


I think you may have hit "undo" by accident!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:28, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@ThatMontrealIP: Thanks for catching that. I thought something funny had happened. I'll fix it in a minute. Ira Leviton (talk) 02:31, 8 September 2019 (UTC) @ThatMontrealIP: I still can't figure out what I did. Probably editing too much. I hope I undid it without any other damage. Thanks again. Ira Leviton (talk) 02:49, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


  The Typo Team Barnstar
I noticed a bunch of your recent contributions to fixing typos with the Moss project, and I thought that I'd like to show my appreciation with a barnstar. Clovermoss (talk) 02:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
I deeply apologize for not thanking you in a timely way for this barnstar. I hope to continue to see you on the Moss project too.
Ira Leviton (talk) 22:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


Hi Ira: re your edits here, I don't quite see what you did with the suspension points - could you help me out? Also, the manga artist hounori, as far as I can see, does not use a capital letter, although several publishers' websites add one, so I'm inclined to take the capital letter off again: would you object?Ingratis (talk) 11:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ingratis: Hi,
The suspension points are simple: just replace them with use three periods without spaces. The detailed instructions are at MOS:ELLIPSIS. (There's a lot of other good stuff on that page.)
And I certainly don't mind if you go back to a small h for honouri. I also saw both upper and lower case when I quickly searched the Internet but I didn't go to original sources. According to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters, a lower case h is proper if that's the usual form - although if possible, it shouldn't be used at beginning of a sentence. (I can't remember if it was used that way.)
Thanks for all your help on this project to improve the delivery of information on Wikipedia!
Ira Leviton (talk)
Thanks for your helpful reply! I'll go through the MOS page thoroughly. I am enjoying typo-fixing and hope to stay with it for a while. Ingratis (talk) 21:55, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Antoine HamiltonEdit

Dear Ira. Thanks for your correction from "our subject here" to "the subject of this article". I searched the Manual of Style and found MOS:OUR. You are so right! You will find this same error in about 35 other lists of siblings that I added to biographical articles (are they useful?). I will go through the articles in question (is there an automatic way how to do this?) and try to catch and correct all these mistakes. Thank you very much again. I am a newby and on an endless learning curve. Johannes Schade (talk) 07:48, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear Ira. I had not seen your other corrections, which concern "reducing all-caps". I am not so sure you realised that the corrections you made are within quotations from source texts, where I used all caps where the cited source used all caps. For example, "LA MOTTE HOUDANCOURT" is all-caps in the 1713 edition of the Mémoires du comte de Grammont as are some other person's names, e.g. GRAMMONT, RICHELIEU etc.. This might open the question how closely one should follow the styling used in the original text with regard to capitalisation, or font-styles such as italics or bold. I tend to sometimes drop the italics and the bolding, but I usually respect the spelling (e.g. étoit for était in the Mémoires cited above), the capitalisation (some older English texts capitalise more or less all nouns as is still done in German), and the often abundant punctuation of older English texts. Besides, I have, so I think, corrected this morning all the "our subject here" to "the subject of this article" following your example. Thanks again for this correction. Johannes Schade (talk) 14:08, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
@Johannes Schade:
Hi Johannes,
I apologize for taking a few days to reply. According to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters, ALLCAPS in reference titles should be reduced to title case (first letter of almost all words get capitalized) or sentence case (only the first letter of the first word gets capitalized). I suppose that otherwise, bibliographies for some subjects, like professional wrestling and low-brow entertainment would be filled with ALLCAPS because their sources use it in too many headlines.
I certainly keep as is all misspellings and capitalized words, but unless there's an unusual reason, ALLCAPS should be changed. I mark old-fashioned or out of date spellings with an Old English 'xxx' or Middle English 'xxx' language template and misspellings with a sic template.
Ira Leviton (talk) 22:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Dear Ira: You are so polite! Sorry for the delay on my side. My computer does not start up any more. I am getting some time on my wife's. I have read and reread MOS:ALLCAPS. There are cases when it comes naturally to me to reduce the all-caps like in titles of books in the references, but I am not so sure whether these rules apply to the quotations in the footnotes in the ps parameter of sfn (the short footnote template) which I use routinely. I like to put quotes in there because I feel that just giving a page as a reference is often not precise enough. This vagueness in the citations invites abuse, I feel. This all-caps reduction is a big issue for me because I use quotes a lot in citations. I put hundreds of them in the articles where I contributed and many contain all-caps words, especially in the genealogical sources. I will of course not revert your edits. I will wait a bit until I understand better or another wikipedian comes along who makes the same point as you.Johannes Schade (talk) 08:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Correct typos in one clickEdit

Hi Ira, I really appreciate your work on MOSS project, correcting thousands of typos across Wikipedia. I would love to hear your opinion on a similar project, Wikipedia:Correct typos in one click, which after adding a line to common.js, allowed me to correct typos in one click, either by approving offered correction, or by typing new one. Thanks, Uziel302 (talk) 08:39, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation – I've noticed your work on some of the pages that I've visited, so thank you, too.
But I must be missing something. I created the special page, put the code on it, and refreshed it. But I don't see any new buttons on any Wikipedia pages that I open. Where should I be looking for them? I've looked again at the special page and it looks the same as others' who've done it (except for the user name). What am I doing wrong?
Ira Leviton (talk) 22:34, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
It only adds buttons on the project pages: Wikipedia:Correct typos in one click. Uziel302 (talk) 22:36, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Ahhhh... now I see it – I just needed to scroll down. I did my first one already. Very very efficient. It looks like the main trade-off compared to the Moss project is that with One Click only the one edit can be done, and many of these pages need much more than that (i.e., the typo that either Moss or you catch is often just one symptom of bad writing). I'll be using both. Thanks for your quick reply.
Ira Leviton (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
I've put some context which allows you to see if the typo is symptom and the whole sentence problematic. I can change the length of the context, haven't figure yet the ideal context size. Uziel302 (talk) 04:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi again. More context is always better and can cut down on having to go to the article page, but I realize that including more context might slow down your program. Sometimes there aren't enough words before the typo to figure out the sentence meaning or if the suggested word is the right one. Ira Leviton (talk) 15:17, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Ira Leviton, slowing down the program isn't the issue, it currently takes 2-3 hours so I put it on when I go to sleep, so more time won't change anything. The issue with context before the typo is that I use it for searching the typo on the article, so I have to cut, for technical reasons, up to newline/</>/&/" (those chars are saved as & l t ; etc. on the dumps, but appear as is in the article). I have in mind a plan to have one short context for the script and a longer one for the users. Haven't got to it yet. And it seems like Bellowhead678 is getting along with the short context so I focused on creating new lists... The current list of capital letters is a huge one, I only uploaded 1/7 of it, so it may be a good idea to run it again with more context. Uziel302 (talk) 17:34, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Played outEdit

I was working on "layed" -> "laid" a bit, and found this edit. Any idea how that happened? The double space may have drawn attention? Shenme (talk) 23:39, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't remember this edit, but looking at it closely, it must have happened this way: I found the page using the spellchecker by [[Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss. I capitalized the words that were detected as typos, and must have noticed the several double spaces, which I often remove. It looks like I deleted the 'p' next to the double space that preceded it instead of one of the spaces, either because of bad aim with my mouse or by using the delete key instead of the backspace. It was definitely my fault though – I should have either taken a break because of eyestrain, or slowed down. My apologies, and thank you for fixing my error.
Ira Leviton (talk) 13:30, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's why I mentioned the spaces. I've done the same thing too. :-) And I usually figure out when to stop correcting words that day when I realize I no longer remember what the correct spelling is anymore. The mental autocorrect's battery's gone flat! See you around at Moss. Shenme (talk) 15:35, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

asking your opinions on pavabilityEdit

Hi, do you feel that pavability is a proper noun and should be capitalized? MPS1992 (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


It looks like I messed up on this one, but it turns out it's for some good. It's not a proper noun. I had thought that it was detected by the spellchecker because it was an arcane word that it didn't recognize, but I capitalized it because it was part of a title. I should have capitalized all the words in the title, but I was just going too quickly for my own good. When I saw your message, I went back to the source at https://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.2854.pdf, just to be sure to make the edit correctly, and I noticed that it should be spelled "paveability". So now I'll make all the corrections and expand the section. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Ira Leviton (talk) 00:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Peace DoveEdit

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7  14:48, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


  Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry

This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.

No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well IL. MarnetteD|Talk 11:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays!Edit

I hope you have a wonderful holiday season and a great 2020! Thank you for all of your unceasing work on the WP:TYOP team.   Schazjmd (talk) 23:48, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


Best wishes for your holiday season and for 2020, too. I have a strong feeling we'll only be halfway through the alphabet by 2021 unless we get a lot more help. Thanks for your efforts.
Ira Leviton (talk) 12:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

hello ira, regarding thanksEdit

i have noticed you have posted thank you, i appreciate it but please provide any suggestion or criticism other than posting thanks. please take no offence, i am hyperbolic person and i havr created mess in libreoffice [ username: vihsa, u can find mess created there on their issue tracker and else where ], i dont want to repeat here. i am bit new and in few hours i will figure out how to activate talk page. if anything is wrong or room for improvement, let me know. if you do have technical skills, please help with phabricator issues T217921, T221425, T173527

no offence intended. thank you and regards. Leela52452 (talk) 09:58, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Typo Team- MossEdit

Hi Ira Just asking about the new Gaol jail rule would the rule still apply to retired Prisons because it is the name of the prison

Many thanks Tram1203 (talk) 02:19, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

I think you should ask Beland about this, if you haven't already – I haven't used this yet. If Gaol is part of a name, it seenm like it should be kept, but it may depend on the particular page. Beland will know, since he wrote those lines.
Happy New Year,
Ira Leviton (talk) 12:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Copy edit tag datesEdit

Hi Ira, Thank you for tagging articles for copy editing. I noticed that you are adding tags that say "January 2019" to, e.g., Bhamragad. Could you please be sure to write "2020" so that the articles get sorted correctly? Thanks, and Happy New Year! Tdslk (talk) 00:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Oops! That means I'm not off to a very good start for the year. Seriously, I apologize and hope that I haven't done that too many times. And I will be more careful.
Ira Leviton (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Your edit to Scouting articleEdit

Hi Ira,

Thank you for your edit to this Scouting related article. You have however undid a lot of correct capitalisation. You might not be aware, but as per WikiProject Scouting/Style advice it is correct to capitalise Scout and other Scout related words.

I'll undo some of your edit (the other grammar and clean up was great, thank you) and perhaps when you come across a Scouting related article in future you might remember this new information.

Have a good day and thank you! ~ Ablaze (talk) 08:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I have to apologize to you for reducing those capitalizations – the scouting guidelines that you cited unequivocally support you. I was using the instructions from the Wikipedia Manual of Style section for capital letters. Although the scouting guidelines refer to the Manual of Style, the reverse doesn't occur to alert people who are unfamiliar with scouting, although it should. I hope that it didn't take you that long to recapitalize everything.
I will look into adding a sentence or two to the Manual of Style to alert other editors. Thanks for bringing it to my attentions, and again, my apologies.
Ira Leviton (talk) 14:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
No need to apologise, it was not a problem and didn't take long to change. Great if you can add to the MOS! Thanks for all your work. Take care. ~ Ablaze (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Cornish bagpipesEdit

At least some of the words you marked as Middle English are in fact Cornish. DuncanHill (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


Can you tell me which words are Cornish (and whether they are Old, Middle, or Modern Cornish, since each of those have different language codes)? I can label them as appropriate. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
In the paragraph beginning "For example, Origo Mundi, Resurrexio Domini, Gwreans an Bys, and both halves of Beunans Meriasek" the words "menstrels", "pyboryon", "peba", and "may hyllyn mos the thonssye" are Cornish, from the dates of the works they come from Middle Cornish. Thanks - I've not encountered the coding for transliterations before. DuncanHill (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi again,
FYI, If you go to the Cornish language page, look at the infobox. The ISO 639-3 code is supposed to be used to label non-English words or phrases, although the 639-2 or 639-1 codes can also be used. There are thousands of codes here, but I usually just look up the particular language when I need to label a word.
Ira Leviton (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


Edits like this are almost never appropriate. A construction like that can mean a couple things, but usually something like there being two possibilities, one with the parenthesized part and one without (in that case, homology or cohomology). That a spellchecker doesn't like it is NOT a reason to change it. Plainly removing the parentheses usually changes the meaning. I'm asking that you stop making these changes; I saw something like 26 in your last 500 edits, something like 4-5 or so a day. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:39, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


Sorry- I didn't realise you were working on that section. Ingratis (talk) 01:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ingratis,
Not a problem at all. I must have been almost finished by the time you did deleted those entries. It was easy to move the remaining entries to the case notes.
Hope to see you soon on the "D" page.
Ira Leviton (talk) 01:44, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, invite to join new RfC on Bruno BettelheimEdit

Hi, thanks for participating in last May's RfC (Request for Comment).

I wish to invite you to join a new one with the specific question of:

Should our lead sentence describe Bettelheim as a "self-proclaimed psychologist"?
RfC on lead sentence
started: Feb. 25, 2020

Any time and effort you wish to spend on this will be most appreciated. Thanks. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 01:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!Edit

please help translate this message into your local language via meta
  The 2019 Cure Award
In 2019 you were one of the top ~300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a thematic organization whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of ClancartyEdit

Dear Ira Leviton. You might remember that we discussed formatting of quotes with regard to the article Antoine Hamilton. In the meantime I discovered that MOS:QUOTE gives detailed instructions and explicitly directs us to replace all-caps, just as you do and told me. I still wonder a bit whether this also applies to quotations (or extracts) in the footnotes, but there is no good reason to believe it doesn't. However, how did you come to "OrmondeE"? That looks like a bug in the program that you use. With many thanks, Johannes Schade (talk) 16:11, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

@Johannes Schade:
Hi Johannes,
OrmondeE wasn't a bug in a program – it was my own error when I tried to do my fix. I should have removed that last E, which I just did when I went back to the page.
But now you've given me a small dose of doubt about whether to reduce certain types of ALLCAPS. I think that I see where you mean that MOS:QUOTE gives instructions about this, but you're correct, it doesn't specifically mention footnotes or citations. Maybe this is something that should be asked? I'm not sure how to ask questions on Wikipedia, other than to individuals. The "Teahouse", perhaps?
Ira Leviton (talk) 17:08, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear Ira. If you do not, who should? I recently was not clear about whether volume numbers of books that fill more than one volume should be given as in the original, where they were in Roman, or whether they should be given in Arabic numbers. I opened a discussion at the Village Pump and found 2 people who said Arabic but one who said Roman. That does not sound like a decision or a consensus. How do you cause a decision to be taken and added to the MOS? Perhaps one should start at the Teahouse as you suggest. Perhaps they can direct us to the right place. Should I do it or will you? Thanks and greetings, Johannes Schade (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


Thank you for your work on Wikipedia, I made an update to the Kreuzer (disambiguation) page, sticky-beaked at the background, looked at your user page. It is a good page. I have a request though: could you give a latin transliteration to an ignorant/lazy person for the name יצחק מאיר please. Brunswicknic (talk) 06:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments about my page. It's the product of many hours of boredom and I hope a little creativity and humor. My name in Hebrew is pronounced "YITZ-chak MAY-er", with the ch pronounced like in the German word "nacht". The first name can be tough for English speakers to pronounce correctly.
Ira Leviton (talk) 00:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Special Barnstar
I was looking through your contributions and you've done so much to make Wikipedia better! A heartfelt thank you. Yoleaux (talk) 05:24, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for attending to the detailsEdit

  Cathedral Builder
You've looked at the finer points. And the result is a more beautiful space for us all to be in. Erasmus Sydney (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

The remaining entries in before AEdit

Hi Ira, thank you very much for all your work with the Typo Team! I saw that you cleaned out almost all of the entries in that list and didn't know what to do with the rest. Since you and me were pretty much the only people working on it, and my knowledge is pretty much nonexistent compared to yours, wouldn't it be best to put the rest of the entries in the case section and notify Beland? Otherwise nothing will happen for quite some time, I think ... Best wishes, Strickesel (talk)

You're right – I moved the remaining entries and left a message on Beland's talk page. Hopefully we'll have more to do soon on "A".
Ira Leviton (talk) 15:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Combined duplicated referencesEdit

Thanks for combining the duplicated references. Its much appreciated. Johnleeds1 (talk) 00:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


Just wanted to flag this edit which put a space at the start of a line. Wikiacc () 02:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Are you emptying TS+DOT+?Edit

So are you currently aiming to clear the whole TS+DOT+ section of moss/A, or are you done for now? I just logged on to do some moss cleanup and I was going to clear a few subsections of that bit since it's the smallest category but then I checked the history. I'll probably work on TS+COMMA+ for now anyway just in case, but if there isn't actually any risk of conflicting edits I want to know. (Also thanks for merging the single remaining entry I left in the A-Aa section into the following section, I'm a noob to typo team and was genuinely not sure what the proper protocol was for when you clear almost all of a section) — Voidify (talk) 03:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm done for now, it's late at night here and I have to wake up early tomorrow. I think you should feel free to tackle any section you want. As long as you delete the entries or leave comments as you finish each section, it's fairly easy to tell when somebody is working on it. I don't feel I "own" any section, and there's always more that can be done.
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Okay cool Voidify (talk) 03:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

FYI, F is upEdit

Hey so Beland's posted a partial dump of F (everything except T2s and T3s). I was the one who requested more TSes to work on, and so far I've been the only person working on this page, presumably because nobody else has checked the talk page to find out that it exists. But you were great with the TSes and T1s of A, so I thought you might like to know. Voidify (talk) 06:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I will move to the F page because I'm least efficient at T2 and T3. Beland used to have flag other typos that are listed in the New for 2019 section, but those seem to have stopped - I'll ask him about that. Thanks again.
Ira Leviton (talk) 14:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


I can’t thank you enough for your copyedit works. How you every now & again are able to spot the double words & I can’t fast enough still beats me. Keep it up dear colleague. Celestina007 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Typo fixingEdit

In the Hunger Games universe, a muttation is a specific type of thing spelled that way by the author. It would help, when fixing typos, to ensure that you are not modifying in-universe information such as this. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 01:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Not complaining just curiousEdit

When I compare it is not obvious. What were the typos in Coal in Turkey please? Chidgk1 (talk) 05:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

The typos were trivial. There were codes for two photos that were inserted without any spaces between the preceding and following text. Most spellcheckers programs ignore these files because their code doesn't show in the article anyway and correcting typos in them would break the link to the file. But the lack of spaces cause the article to be tagged having a typo because it appears that sentences have a period without a space between them. I simply put a two hard returns before the file, and a hard return before the sentence that follows. It may look the same before and after the edit, but it at least the spellchecker programs are happy. The Coal in Turkey article had two instances of this. I hope my explanation made sense.
Ira Leviton (talk) 16:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining. I understand now it makes the bulk typo fixing easier for you. But perhaps you can report it back to the spellchecker programmers as something to be ignored in a future release. Chidgk1 (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Colonial Bank of New ZealandEdit

Hi, puzzled by your edit comment "Deleted outdated html codes". Even looking at what you did I still don't understand what you mean. Please would you tell me. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 10:02, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

This was part of my Wikipedia:Typo_Team activity to replace certain html codes. The page with the instructions is at Wikipedia:Typo_Team/moss/quick_start. My original intent was to replace the <p> code. Then I noticed the missing periods and the capitalized Bank that had to be corrected, too.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Then you won't mind if I effectively revert your layout change. Is

not allowed now? Eddaido (talk) 11:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Please use a double hard return instead of <p>, which will cause the article to reappear on a list with html code.
Ira Leviton (talk) 12:10, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Ping was obviously meant for @Eddaido: Chidgk1 (talk) 08:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


Sorry, no. I'm aware that the skit "Racist Word Association Interview" is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article (which I wrote).

However, it is not relevant to the article on the Tar-Baby story that the words "tar baby" were spoken in "RWAI". There are a variety of different racial slurs that could have been used in place of "tar baby", and if any of them had been used in place of "tar baby", "RWAI" would have been no different. Mentioning every single use everywhere of the phrase "tar baby" is not useful. DS (talk) 20:17, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Mathematical terms incorrectly marked as typosEdit

'Costrict' and 'nonzeroary' are both real, if unusual, words and shouldn't be in the typo list - a quick google shows them in several Boolean algebra textbooks. geeoharee (talk) 17:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation – I put it next to these words on the typo list, and the editor who generates the list will then delete them so they don't reappear.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 02:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


Hi Ira.

Thanks for your work on spelling prophylaxis against algorithmic bots, for example at Djinang people. The problem is that the result is an eyestore whose visual congestion means no passing reading can actually elicit the shape or look of the native word, because the script used remains in our faces, rather than tacit. Any way to fix that? Nishidani (talk) 17:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Oops! That was my coding error - several were missing a bracket. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I think it's fixed, take a look. It should look exactly the same as before I touched it, but the template tells the spellcheckers to ignore the words.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 17:46, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks pal. I'm a technical dummy, and these things flummox me. Keep up the fine work.Nishidani (talk) 18:42, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

xim language?Edit

With this edit you created a {{lang}} template:

{{lang|xim|*dʰǵʰ(e)m-}} → [*dʰǵʰ(e)m-] Error: {{Lang}}: unrecognized language code: xim (help)

xim isn't an ISO 639 language code known to {{lang}} or to {{ISO 639 name}}:

error: ISO 639 code is required (help)

Are you sure that your edit was correct?

Trappist the monk (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk:
I've fixed it, and kicked myself twice for not using the Show Preview button. Once for each typo. My apologies.
Ira Leviton (talk) 19:59, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Got the ping, thanks. Pings work regardless of the existence (or nonexistence) of a user page.
Trappist the monk (talk) 21:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
At this edit, you wrote:
{{lang|spa\memoria}} → [undefined] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help)
Two things about that: the back slash instead of a pipe and spa instead of es. When an ISO 639-1 (two-character) code exists for an equivalent ISO 639-2, -3, or -5 code, use the -1 code. Module:Lang knows this and automatically promotes to ISO 639-1 but the wiki text should be correct. You might want to turn on the maintenance messaging to show where this occurs by updating your common or skin CSS stylesheet to include:
.lang-comment {display: inline !important;} /* show lang messages */
Correcting the pipe shows the maint message (when enabled):
Trappist the monk (talk) 19:29, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Trappist the monk:
Thanks for the tip on ISO-639-1 – I was not aware of that. And I will turn on my maintenance messaging as you said.
Meant to leave you this link: Template:ISO 639 name#Language codes
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:06, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


Hello Ira Leviton,

Thak you for fixing my many typos, especially on Eucalyptus articles. Gderrin (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Improve clarificationEdit

Hello Ira leviton, Recently I had improve your criticism towards the article called Damak Multiple Campus.If i am correct then please reply me your opinion.


(Fade258 (talk) 05:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC))


You still need to spell out the abbreviations in the text. Readers shouldn't have to look up what they stand for, and nobody outside of Nepal or maybe India is going to know what they are.
Ira Leviton (talk) 18:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Scots and Gaelic language tagsEdit

Hi Ira, I spotted an edit by you to Central Scots that helpfully added language tags to non-English words in the article but noted them as Scottish Gaelic rather than Scots (language). Not sure if this was an aberration or whether you are unaware of the distinction between the two tongues but thought I'd let you know in case you made similar tags to other articles. As I'm not very familiar with the codes, I'd be grateful if you can check that my amendment is correct. All the best. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

User:Mutt Lunker
I don't remember this edit in particular because it's from a while ago, but I must have just zoned out because the article is clearly about Scottish and not Scottish Gaelic. You have done the corrections properly, and thank you for making them.
Good to know you're aware of the distinction, borne out by having now clocked your spot-on tagging with "sco" at, for example, Doric dialect (Scotland) and Early Scots; there's clearly no issue. By the way though, the Anglic language is always referred to as Scots, in Scots or English, never Scottish.
Though I've clearly no longer a use for it regarding your edits, when I posted initially, I was trying to work out a way of doing a global search for tags for a particular language, throughout all articles. Out of interest, do you know if there is a method of doing this? Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't know how to do that, but there must be a way. Maybe the Teahouse can help?
Ira Leviton (talk) 01:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
hastemplate:"Lang" insource:/\{ *lang *\| *sco/
Trappist the monk (talk) 02:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Mutt Lunker (talk) 09:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Trappist, your tip allowed me to find a few more instances of Scots attributed as Gaelic (not all by you Ira), though the vast majority marked as Gaelic were correctly so, as far as as I could tell. If you come across any you're unsure of in the future Ira, feel free to drop me a line.
I also noticed the search shows that there are vanishingly few examples of Scots text being tagged in Wikipedia articles. I'll try to bear in mind to add the tag when I see any Scots in articles; there's a fair bit. Mutt Lunker (talk) 19:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)


"Historianz" isn't necessarily a typo for "historians". It could be a typo for "historian". DS (talk) 15:52, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


Thanks for updating. Some states configure their pages so that access from outside the US is restricted etc. --Qumranhöhle (talk) 18:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Qumranhöhle: You're welcome. I'm look at the other dates that haven't been updated, but so far they look OK, i.e., the dates haven't been updated, but the figures have been. I'll try to go through them by the end of the day. –Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 18:25, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
The "usual suspects" are Arkansas, Guam, Nebraska, South Dakota (sometimes Georgia and Ohio won't work). --Qumranhöhle (talk) 18:35, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Qumranhöhle:I just updated the data for the states that you indicated (except you beat me to Ohio), and everything that was more than a week old. The oldest one without an update is now Massachusetts, but it looks like they update recoveries only every Wednesday evening, so they can slide until tomorrow. –Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 20:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Photo on a scoreboard video screenEdit

Hello Ira, I've read a lot about using photos in a Wikipedia page but can't seem to find a definitive answer and I was hoping if you could help me. I took a photo of a former professional basketball and college player this past year at their basketball alumni weekend at their college. My question is, the photo is of them waving to the crowd at halftime of a game after they were introduced to the fans over the public address system and they are up on the scoreboard video screen. Can I use that photo I took of them in their Wikipedia article? Thank you for helping me.Coachpc (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Coach,
I'm not an expert on photos and have uploaded only a few to Wikipedia, but my understanding is that ownership and copyright of any photograph automatically belongs to the person who took it, not the person who's in it, or anybody or any company who's product is in it, etc., whether it's intended for Wikipedia or elsewhere. If the photo was taken on somebody else's property, it may get complicated – but only if there are rules against taking photographs and they are posted. It sounds like the photo you took is yours to use however you see fit. I'm sure there's a place on Wikipedia to ask this question but I'm not sure where.
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Ira.
Coachpc (talk) 03:29, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Your edit on Abomination (Judaism)Edit

Hi, your edit on Abomination (Judaism) created some script code errors. I don't know enough about the transl template to fix them, so I reverted your edit for now. --2A02:8388:6782:A100:70B0:DB4:3899:6E50 (talk) 10:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Rita RohlfingEdit

  • Dear Ira, you changed "Also in 1992 she received the "Dragoco Scholarship for Young Artists"' into "In 1992 she received the "Dragoco Scholarship for Young Artists"', but perhaps you didn't read the first sentence and this belongs together: "In 1992 she was appointed "Master student" (Meisterschüler) by Bernd Minnich and Roland Dörfler. Also in 1992 she received the "Dragoco Scholarship for Young Artists" - now there are two sentences starting with "In 1992" - it sounds as if i wasn't able to write proper sentences.
  • You corrected {{cite book |title=Rita Rohlfing |editor=Villa Zanders |publisher=Villa Zanders; Kunstmuseum in der alten Post |place=Bergisch-Gladbach; Mülheim an der Ruhr |year=1999}} - to * {{cite book |title=Rita Rohlfing |editor=Villa Zanders |publisher=Kunstmuseum in der alten Post |place=Bergisch-Gladbach; Mülheim an der Ruhr |year=1999}} - but in fact, it where these two oranisations who published together. I didn't know, how to make this visible in the right formatting.

Would you be so kind to check on your corrections? I'm very thankful if someone helps me to learn another formatting or so, but with these two i just think, the former text perhaps has been better than it is now??? Kind regards, Gyanda

Hi Gyanda,
I've tried to make the corrections. The first one was grammar (to avoid starting a sentence with also) – I rewrote it and now hope that both the meaning and grammar are correct. The second was to try to fix the formatting errors for editors – when I saw Villa Zanders as both editor and publisher, I thought that the publisher was incorrect because there was already a publisher; I changed that back and the article no longer appears on the Category:CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list. Thanks for your comments.
Ira Leviton (talk)
@Ira Leviton: Dear Ira, i didn't know that one is not supposed to start a sentence with also... thanks for the correction! I promise, i try my best to learn! And thanks also for the correction of the book! I appreciate your work very much! (and i love all these info on your userpage about you :-) Thank you again! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 19:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!Edit

Thanks for that contribution you made on Soju

EraKook (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Raising stub statusEdit

Hi Ira, thank you for the revisions you made earlier on the additions I added to the Wikipedia page "Piperacillin". I am currently working towards raising the status of the article from a stub, and so would like to ask if you may have any suggestions that will help me achieve this or to progress further to reach the 'Good Article' status. Any help would be much appreciated. Yilard (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


If a bot is populating Category:CS1 maint: unrecognized language because of language names rather than codes, a valid option according to {{cite news}} and {{cite web}}, it needs to be told to stop. Narky Blert (talk) 19:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Narky,
I'm not sure if a bot caused the problem. The Fukuppy article had wikilinks in two of the language parameters. Language names can also be used as long as they're spelled exactly as on the page Template:Citation Style documentation/language/doc, although codes are preferred because they'll still work if somebody uses that reference in another language Wikipedia article. Any other punctuation or character in the parameter causes the CS1 error, and I've noticed a few languages that aren't accepted even when spelled correctly. Sometimes I replace all languages with codes because I have to go through a long article anyway to find the incorrect language or code.
Ira Leviton (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
I think we may have inadvertently discovered inconsistencies between the various {{cite}} templates (now, there's a surprise!). (1) Are links in |language= permitted? (2) How much in |language= are language codes to be preferred over full names? This may need a WP:RFC or two. I'd be happy to work with you to help knock either or both into shape. I have my own opinions on both, but IMO the most important thing is a clear consistent WP:CONSENSUS guideline which applies to every template in the {{cite}} group.
(edit conflict) It looks as if your time could be being unnecessarily spent because of lack of clarity in the documentation. I know where you're coming from - I too follow some Category:Maintenance categories, and anything which helps usefully and easily to depopulate them has my backing. Narky Blert (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@Narky Blert:
I think that's a good idea. It seems to me that the some of the choices about what to do might already be made. For example, if a wikilink in the language parameter causes a CS1 error, there may not be anything that can be done. But the preference over codes vs. language names can be made clearer (and should be on all cite pages, which it's not, with a link in the instructions for the language parameter on each type of cite page to the page that contains the valid codes and names), and perhaps there could be a policy of using one or the other format per article, like date formats. I don't have any strong feelings about using codes, which can be off-putting for beginners, vs. language names. But I agree that consistency and clarity are the keys. Ira Leviton (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

CS1 maint: extra textEdit

Hello, I've seen, that you fix the maintenance errors manually. I just wanna give you the hint, that User:Citation_bot fixes most of the errors automatically. Grimes2 (talk) 15:29, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, that probably explains why some CS1 error and maintenance categories have so few entries and others have many because the bot doesn't cover them. I should figure out how to use it – my previous efforts trying other bots haven't been successful. I'll stick to the categories that have a lot of entries for now, while I try to work the bot. Thanks for the tip!
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 15:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
You can try it here: https://citations.toolforge.org/ (category: CS1 maint: extra text). Hope that works for you. Grimes2 (talk) 15:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
It worked! It did what it said, although in this case it left errors in other categories that had to be fixed manually. Very interesting and easy to use. Thanks again.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 16:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Another tippEdit

Hello Ira, I've seen on your userpage a userbox, that you are interested in Genealogy. You can register to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/ for free (for Wikipedians) and get access to Ancestry.com and Newspapers.com. Grimes2 (talk) 17:54, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I forgot to write back and thank you for this tip earlier. I already had newspapers.com via Wikipedia because it's very useful in filling in missing parameters and wikifying references, but I never realized that Ancestry was also available. It will definitely help me find more info on relatives! Thank you.!
Ira Leviton (talk) 00:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Coffee spill?Edit

[5] Johnbod (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't know what happened there, but your comment nearly made me spit out my coffee laughing. I re-edited the page, this time correctly. Thanks for catching it so quickly.
Ira Leviton (talk) 03:14, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
No worries, thanks! Johnbod (talk) 10:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


Hi .. I can't as an IP, but would you like to file a DYK for Kathryn Garcia, which you were so nice to clean up? I can come up with a suggestion if you like. Or just go with one you like. Thanks for the good work - some editor was deleting it entirely, claiming it did not meet GNG. (And I was blocked from editing it for two weeks, for restoring it with more RS refs). --2603:7000:2143:8500:9D0F:6A81:4224:6C2A (talk) 06:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok. I'll proceed without you, as given that you have not responded perhaps you have not interest. Best. --2603:7000:2143:8500:7913:1C16:7EF2:49A9 (talk) 00:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversaryEdit

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Matisse La Négresse The Cut-Outs citationsEdit

Hi Ira! Thanks for editing the authors into the various boxes on La Négresse. I wanted to ask you more about this, as I’m still figuring out how complex citations work on wiki. Each of the chapters cited has a different author (why I cited them separately as opposed to the whole book) but the entire book is listed as co-authored by all of those whose names are listed. Is there a way to indicate chapter author (I tried to check the add more fields but nothing came up under “chapter author”)? Any theories on this would be great! Thanks!! Thellomerca (talk) 05:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I got to La Négresse because it appeared on a list of pages with formatting errors – the "others" parameter in one of the references that I fixed ended with a comma, which automatically sends the name of that page to the list. Many other pages have similar errors, and I think that it's usually part of an automated process that some Wikipedia editors use from references on worldcat.org, although not always. Anyway, I figured that I should format the entire reference as best as I could, and did the same for the second similar reference even though that one didn't have an extra comma, so they had the same look.
So that's the preamble. I don't think there's an answer that answers your question precisely, but I think the best answer is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_book. It has all of the details for citing a book, certainly more than I can remember. About a quarter of the way down the page is a paragraph called "Citing a chapter in a book with different authors for different chapters and an editor". If you want to note a particular author for a chapter, it seems that you can modify that and list the chapter author as the author using the "last" and "first" parameters, and then all the authors with |others=Buchberg, Karl D.; Cullinan, Nicholas; Hauptman, Jodi; Sirota, Nicholas; Friedman, Samantha; Frigeri, Flavia|.
I hope that helps, and good luck!
Ira Leviton (talk) 16:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Ira, thanks so much for taking the time to explain! I agree that subbing the alternate authors for the editor via the “other” box (but without the typo comma!) makes the most sense. I’ll make those edits :) Thanks!! Thellomerca (talk) 15:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and by the wayEdit

Thanks for the clean up on Heterophragma sulfureum. I admit, I don't like allcaps and appreciate their removal, but I also admit that it is so frequent in refs that I skip over it in page creation. By the way the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew is the name, not the name and location of the gardens. There are lots of Royal Botanic Gardens, and their place name is part of their formal name. Thank you for your edit and your contributions to WP. Brunswicknic (talk) 01:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Disco FreddyEdit

Thank you so much for creating the Disco Freddy page! I was a kid in Brighton Beach in the 1970s and vividly remember "Disco Freddy” and his act. Usually saw him at Brighton 2nd Street and the boardwalk. But one thing: I really never remember him being called "Larry the Unbelievable"; I do remember some of my friends calling him "Sensational" as a name. And FWIW, the photographer who took that pic of him jumping over his jacket ing front of the 42nd Street library branch — Tony Szczygielski — sadly passed away of COVID-19 complications back in May 2020. More info can be here. Thanks again for creating that article! --Giacomo1968 (talk) 05:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

I also grew up in Brighton Beach, although at the other end of the neighborhood, and guessing from your user name, I'm also a little bit older than you. Disco Freddy was the looniest of the all the loons on the boardwalk, where I usually saw him. I also knew him only as Disco Freddy, but some of my friends remember the Larry the Unbelievable name. I'd like to find his real identity, but evidently, he kept pretty quiet about that.
Ira Leviton (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Cite palaeontology templateEdit

Please see the recent history of {{Cite palaeontology}} to show how I suppressed the CS1 error-tracking categories without breaking the template when it was transcluded. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks – I will use this method!
Ira Leviton (talk) 15:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Possible bug in cite book template?Edit

Ira, you corrected the punctuation in three {{cite book}} entries on a page I created—see diff—for which I thank you. As far as I remember, all three were created by using the cite book template, entering the ISBN, and accepting whatever it returned. Obviously, in future I shall keep an eye on the punctuation that it leaves lying around.

I am wondering, though, if this is a problem with the cite book template, or with the Wikidata content on which (I assume) it relies? Can it be fixed?

Verbarson (talk) 15:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. Yes, I'm sure that there is a bug, probably in the cite book template, not the data. For the last several weeks I've been spending a lot of time making corrections of CS1 errors from a list generated at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_extra_punctuation, and have noticed that many of the errors are the same. I figured that it had to be due to an automated process, but never having used any of these myself, I wasn't sure if it was from getting information via the ISBN or the OCLC. There's another bug when getting information from news sources, I believe via cite web template.
But I have no idea how to fix these, or even who to contact. I wish it could be fixed, because they're creating a lot of unnecessary errors by knowledgeable people, and there are many others that could use fixing instead. If you know who to contact, let me know, and I'll try to explain the problem in detail to them.
Sorry, I am a newby (< 1 month) and I came to you hoping you would know where to go. Never mind. I'll proof-read my cites, and if it stays an issue maybe one day I'll know what to do.
Thanks for responding so quickly. --Verbarson (talk) 16:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Correct typos in one clickEdit

New lists, only lower case. Thanks, Uziel302 (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Japanese swordsmithingEdit

Hi Ira,

I noticed your edit to Japanese swordsmithing today. I just wanted to point out that the word jou thieh in the Metallography section is actually a Chinese word, not Japanese. I tried to change it, but I'm not good with these templates and stuff. Apparently "ch" is not the code, for Chinese, but if not I have no clue what is. I just thought I'd let you know. Thanks. Zaereth (talk) 20:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the error to me. I made the correction. (The code for all forms of Chinese is zh.) There are lists of language codes at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes. If the language doesn't have an ISO 639-1 code, the 639-2 code or 639-3 code should be used. Another easy thing to do is to go to the Wikipedia page for the language, which always has its codes in the infobox.
Thanks again.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Minor barnstar
For edits to Red handprint. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me if replying off my talk page. Thank you. 04:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Problem with Transliteration tags in an articleEdit

Hi Ira, I saw you added transliteration tags in Jalebi article. It seems like it broke that content on the page. I did a quick search and found those broken tags on several other pages as well. Your help would be appreciated. :) -- Niharika (talk) 12:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


That was my fault and I was able to quickly fix it. I had typed "ara" as the language code for Arabic instead of "ar". I have to learn to always use the "show preview" button, which would've prevented me from publishing that mistake. Thanks for pointing it out to me. If I made that error on other pages, let me know - I hope I haven't been unconsciously typing "ara" instead of "ar" on a lot of pages. This error can be corrected easily for other languages, too - go the Wikipedia page for that language, and use the "ISO-639-1 code" in the infobox. It's there for every language that has one. If there is no ISO-639-1 code, then use the three letter ISO-639-2 or 639-3 code.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar you don't haveEdit

  The Special Barnstar
For work on removing ALL CAPS in my article Akrasia25 (talk) 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

lang templatesEdit

Pretty sure we've talked about this before ... Please preview.

In this edit, you wrote this which, as you can see, is broken:

{{lang|lageneralis congregatios}} → [undefined] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help)

Please fix.

Trappist the monk (talk) 01:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk:
Hi, Trappist. I fixed it. My apologies.
Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 01:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

ALL CAPS reductionEdit

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this edit where you changed the title of a referenced document. If the referenced document used all caps in its title, why should we change that? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

The Manual of Style here says to reduce ALLCAPS in almost all situations, and definitely covers this one. There are certain topics, such as WWF wrestling and Japanese pop music, that routinely use ALLCAPS in newspaper and magazine headlines, sometimes for every word, and have to be recast in title case. I think that many times these references are imported by some type of bot and keep original formatting, but sometimes they're put in manually. Either way, they should be redone in title case.
Ira Leviton (talk) 15:12, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
OK. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Tagging early middle englishEdit

Hi Ira, lately I've tried my hand at tagging words as their respective languages. So far my approach seems to work, except for when I tried early middle english. The only iso code for it that i found was 'emen' from iso 639-6, which results in a language not defined error message. I've tried to look for possible solutions, but haven't found anything satisfying. What do you do in these cases? I hope I don't bother you with this question, Strickesel (talk) 14:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Strickesel
It's not a bother at all. The first choice is the two-letter ISO-693-1 code, and if there is none, the three-letter ISO-693-3 code. IF there's no ISO-693-3 code, then use "mis" for miscellaneous. You can always find the code by going to the language's Wikipedia article. I don't think that Early Middle English is officially recognized as a language or distinguished from Middle English (by whoever those officials are) - putting that term in the Wikipedia search box redirects to Middle English, which has the code enm. Thanks for all your help on the moss project, by the way.
Ira Leviton (talk) 16:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

April 21: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with with Environmental focusEdit

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Hello Ira I wanted to know about the HARSHAD MEHTA PAGE:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harshad_Mehta The question is that whether the amount 10000 crores INR mentioned in the page is of the year 2020 or of 1992? Please clarify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:49, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Ira Just wanted to tell you that we still have our GAR memorial in Woodstock IL. Also the Midwest Civil War museum in Kenosha Wisconsin also has save the giant stained glass windows from one of their GAR posts and recreated the entire front of the GAR building inside the museum. Museum has artifacts from all Union States that sent troops from the Midwest. Mi, Wi, IL, IN, Ia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:245:4300:6CE:EC9B:600A:85B3:31F6 (talk) 00:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello ira leviton:im Ricardo from Jamaica and would want to know about the history of Joseph barham and his plantation in Westmoreland Land Jamaica my number 18765764377 thanks would be well appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:45, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


Hello, thanks for "replacing/deleting jargon", I guess, but the "Nondispersive Infrared CO Sensors" section now reads "sensors are spectroscopic sensors". ~~~~
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11:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)