Hello from Tucoxn edit

Thanks for spending some time chatting about your bot, Benutzer:Dateientlinkerbot. Here's my talk page: en:User talk:Tucoxn. You may want to read the following pages for some info on the small amount of progress I've made so far:

I'm looking forward to collaborating more. Danke! Tucoxn (Diskussion) 14:53, 21. Jan. 2014 (CET)

Hi. Would you please send me text files with the code or let me know how I can access it. There is a perl programmer who is willing to help. Thanks! Tucoxn (Diskussion) 12:31, 24. Jan. 2014 (CET)
Maybe be have some minor misunderstanding. I thought our agreement was that you start the necessary discussions and write down the job details while I expand the bot code accordingly. I think I don't need any coding help, but I need detailed description what to do, as my experience at enwiki is limited. As far as I see, we can start with test edits at the end of next week. --Krd (talk) 11:48, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know you were interested in taking such a strong ownership of this task. Let's go with option "a" in your e-mail. I get the impression that your Dateientlinkerbot bot on de.wikipedia is working fine. I think what would be useful is a bot that accomplishes removal of instances of deleted files in articles (not templates, user-space, or others) is what is needed -- I think that is what Dateientlinkerbot is doing (am I correct?). The bot should leave a detailed log that a human can check (to see if some files can be replaced or if deletion is simply the best option). The log should include:
  1. The name of the file removed;
  2. What article it was removed from;
  3. The date-time-group (DTG) for the removal;
  4. If the file was ever on en.wp, Commons, or if it was never uploaded;
  5. Otherwise, whether the file was on en.wp or Commons.
  6. The DTG for when the file was deleted;
  7. The editor that deleted the file.
  8. Other rationale for the deletion: copyright violation, deletion discussion, no license since (date)....
Otherwise, I think the comments being left by Dateientlinkerbot are good and something like those should be used for the bot on en.wp. In addition, I understand that having some lag time between the file deletion (from Commons or en.wp) or an editor adding bad filename to an article is a good thing -- you're probably aware of this, though. Also, although I'm trying to have WP:HOTLINKed files handled through an edit filter, it might be useful for the bot to be able to pick these out as well. I've got this page on my watchlist now so communication can move a bit quicker. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 01:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Please see:
Please also put User:Filedelinkerbot/restored files on your watchlist. The bot will report files that reappear.
Regarding your list, point 5 seems to be not applicable as we are talking about files only that are deleted on Commons (if I'm not mistaken).
Up to my experience it is recommended to unlink deleted files immediately because otherwise manual delinking occurs more often than undeleted files have to be reinserted. This seems to be not too much work, and I can do this myself.
I stopped the bot for now; please verify the edits and let me know your thoughts. If all is well, we can start with a bot flag request. --Krd (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi. This looks like a good bunch of first edits. I suppose it's ok for the bot to make these 10 edits (they're all good and constructive edits) without being approved but I don't know for sure. I've watchlisted the page you recommended. I also made a couple edits to the bot's user page -- I hope you find them constructive. You also should add stop buttons to the bot's user page (similar to User:MBisanzBot, see WP:BOTCONFIG). In addition, you should also eventually add {{User bot owner|Filedelinkerbot}} to your user page.
There are a few small things:
  1. The comment says "Bot: Removing Commons:File:Gerard Fowke.jpg (de)...." This should read "en" not "de". It looks like this got fixed in the later edits.
  2. Why were the edits to Fula people and List of World War 1 memorials and cemeteries in Verdun marked minor (1 and 2)?
  3. Also the edit to List of World War 1 memorials and cemeteries in Verdun removed several spaces not related to or near the removed Commons file. This also happened in the edit to Funeral, and others. Although this wouldn't be a bad thing in normal editing, the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) may see it as Filedelinkerbot overstepping its bounds. I know this sort of thing was a problem for other efforts to automatically remove deleted files (see WP:COSMETICBOT).
  4. I suggest rewording the standard comment to: Bot: Removing Commons:File:{{1}} (en). It was deleted on Commons by User:{{2}}. ({{3}}). "1" and "3" are good and would remain as is. I suggest deleting "as" and rewording from "has been" to "was", which is shorter (and might be a bit more grammatically correct). What is done under "(en)" is good. Also, I suggest including a link to the Commons userpage of the deleter in "2", which might avert some questions from editors asking Filedelinkerbot or you (on your talk pages) why certain files were deleted or removed from articles -- this happened a lot to KylieTastic.
Regarding the log on wmflabs, I think it's too sparse. The info included in the comments should be in the log, not just available though a click.
Regarding point 5 from the other day, this must have been a miscommunication. Let's just have Filedelinkerbot deal with Commons for now and expand if and as necessary.
Although I think your reasoning about unlinking deleted files immediately (Gerard Fowke.jpg was a 15 minute time gap, which might be good, if not too short) is good, I need to do more research and get back to you about the lag time. I think there is some established best practice on the lag time for making these sorts of automated edits. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 23:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
A couple additional things to check off:
  1. Does Filedelinkerbot interpret the {{Bots}} template (see WP:BOTCONFIG)?
  2. Also, does Filedelinkerbot honor the {{inuse}} template (see WP:BOTCONFIG) and similarly the {{GOCEinuse}} template?
Thanks. - tucoxn\talk 00:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi tucoxn. Please feel free to edit the bot user page as you like, including the addition of a stop button.
I changed the edit summary wording accordingly and turned off the empty line removal.
The bot does already handle the bots and inuse templates. GOCEinuse has been added.
The points "set bot flag or not" and "set minor edit flag or not" are to be discussed, and I'm open for any concensus. The current setup for dewiki is: set bot flag and minor flag if files are removed from galleries only, don't set both otherwise. The idea behind is that those edits shall not be hidden from the watchlists as necessary images are removed and editors shall replace them manually. Please advise.
The log file itself contains all necessary information, and the web interface can be improved accordingly. I'd prefer to delay this a bit, If you don't mind.
The lag time is the most complicated point of the whole story, as the bot currently does not support a delay. CommonsDelinker does wait some time, which is based on the assumption that once in a while files get deleted and immediately restored to clean up the version history. Up to my experience this does not happen often and is no real problem.
Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you. --Krd (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hello Krd. Thanks for your responses.
I think I have answers regarding the bot flag and the minor flag. It looks like the bot should never use the minor flag since it's kind of removing content in an article (see Wikipedia:Minor edit#When not to mark an edit as a minor edit). It looks like the bot should always use the bot flag and isn't supposed to have a choice (see WP:BOTFLAG) but this isn't as clear; perhaps this will be cleared up in the approval process.
Thanks for the info on the log file and the web interface; it's fine to delay changing that.
I've been advised by a former member of the Bot Approval Group that a lag time of 1-2 hours would be good for this bot, specifically for the reasons that CommonsDelinker has a built-in wait time. Your experience in this area is also valuable. Perhaps there is some middle ground.
I'll update the bot user page with a stop button. I think the admin block button is the best option.
Let me know what you thing about the lag tome and my response to the bot flag question. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 02:23, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'd suggest we put up a list of pros and cons for each points bot flag and lag time, maybe on the bots talk page? For the bot flag I don't habe any strong opionion; for the lag time I'm quite sure that we can invalidate any objections against a zero lag time, maybe within a trial period. --Krd (talk) 07:48, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm willing to go with your suggestion about the lag time. Perhaps this will get ironed out during the approval process and after the trial period. Regarding the bot flag, perhaps we're not on the same page. As policy currently stands on en.wp, all approved bots will have the bot flag turned on. I'm rather sure we don't have a choice about this. Under "Information" in this 2013 Request for Comment on the bot flag, you'll see that historically on en.wp all bot edits were hidden from recent changes but now they can optionally show up in recent changes, making it less likely that bot edits will be hidden or overlooked by recent change patrollers. (You'll also notice that the discussion didn't get many comments!) At Special:ListGroupRights, you can see the user rights granted to bots (i.e. users with the bot flag) on en.wp, which includes some useful rights (i.e. noratelimit and apihighlimits. If you agree about the bot flag, I guess we're ready to request the trial at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval. Let me know if you want me to look over the request before you transclude it (i.e. add {{BRFA|Filedelinkerbot|Open}} to the request page). - tucoxn\talk 09:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think you are getting me wrong: I don't have any problem with setting the bot flag at those edits. I already changed the code accordingly. I will prepare the BRFA later today. --Krd (talk) 09:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Filedelinkerbot If you have any additions, please go ahead an edit the request page. --Krd (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for starting the request for approval. I made a bunch of changes, which you should edit as you see fit. It's probably ready to go. One thing I noticed is the statement, "Necessary modifications to meet en.wikipedia requirements have been made." This is accurate but we may want to consider detailing what those modifications were. On the other hand, detailing each modification would take lots of time and space and it might be better to wait for this to come up in the discussion (it probably will). Similarly, we may want to say that a log of the bot's actions is available on wmflabs. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 21:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


I want to be sure you noticed this. Filedelinkerbot is approved for trial (30 edits). - tucoxn\talk 14:33, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

The bot is now flagged and live. Please watch and let me know about problems on the bot's talk page. Thank you! --Krd 16:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Virtual high five! edit

 
Bot accepted... high five!

Congratulations on getting Filedelinkerbot accepted. I enjoyed collaborating with you and want to give you a virtual high five! - tucoxn\talk 21:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Some Commons deletions missed by Filedelinkerbot edit

Hi. It seems like Filedelinkerbot is working well but I noticed a few files it missed over the past couple days. I was wondering if you notice a pattern in these missed files. I only looked in files that had to be removed on 24 and 25 February. The dates deleted, posted by KylieTastic in the edit summaries, are correct — I checked using Wiki File Helper. You'll notice that some files that were missed showed up in several articles:

Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 00:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

There are still several small issue to be addressed, and the DYK is one new I wasn't aware of, but there are also some problems with infoboxes which need some regular expression tuning. At least all edits of CommonsDelinker in article namespace are ones my bot didn't catch, and I'll need some time for the final fixing. I'm on it. --Krd 17:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
BTW, do you think we should extent the bot at template namespace for icons in navigation boxes etc.? --Krd 17:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Hi, just thought I'd point to an issue (may not be fixable) Filedelinkerbot removed 10 files from Delta Force Paintball but missed one I think maybe because it used percent formatting Delta_Force_%27Space_Warz%27_Paintball.jpg - not a huge issue, only comes up 1 in a thousand or more. KylieTastic (talk) 21:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
    You're right, I'm currently not having all combinations of possible character representation implemented. In this special cases it had not helped anyway, as the gallery tags would have been removed, but not the surplus headline. There is some more work to be done to make it perfect. --Krd 05:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you! edit

  The Technical Barnstar
Good work on the bot - It's really good to have some automation on this task, as the manual grind was getting to be a bit annoying. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot working on templates... edit

Last week or so, you asked if Filedelinkerbot should be extended to the template namespace for icons in navigation boxes and other things. I've been considering this and I don't think it's necessary. First of all, there aren't many templates with missing files. See Category:Templates with missing files: there are only about 12 pages listed. Also templates don't get added to that category often. In addition, sometimes broken images are on protected templates, which the bot couldn't edit.... All of these things amount to a very small margin of improvement for the large amount of bot coding that would be necessary. Finally, I think this proposal has a chance of being rejected by the BAG because template construction is so complex, especially with the implementation of WP:Lua. Your thoughts? - tucoxn\talk 04:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

To be honest, I added template support in the meantime. I see a lot of error messages from the bot where it is unable to unlink in the article because the file is in a navigation bar, and I'm getting too many errors at the moment to keep up with processing all of them manually. Having template namespace included, the bot does at least purge the template, too, so that it gets listed at the missing-files page earlier. There has currently no template edit been made by the bot.
I hope I find some minutes this week to code a few more infobox and {{gallery}} cases. --Krd 05:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Purging articles that have repaired templates might help. I'm not sure if this is clear. This is something we should consider discussing in greater depth. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 09:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • What would help is if the bot could make null edits to all articles that have a certain transcluded template. For example, I just fixed Template:Seremban Line, because the name of an image in that template was changed (the file was moved to a different name on Commons). After repairing the template, I need to go to all the articles that used that template and make WP:null edits so they don't appear in Category:Articles with missing files. It would be great if Filedelinkerbot had a "transcluded template null edit request page" (or something with a similar title): someone could list a template there and the bot would find that articles used that template and make null edits to those articles. MadmanBot, which does text copyright violation analysis, has a manual request page at User:MadmanBot/manual. Your thoughts? - tucoxn\talk 21:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
Making null edits to all articles that us a deleted image which couldn't be unlinked is already being done. This is what I wanted to say above, where I mistakenly spoke about purging the _template_ (which actually seems to be nonsense, I meant the _article_). Sorry for the confusion. --Krd 07:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
I guess I didn't explain this clearly enough. Let's say we have an example template called [[Template:Foo]], which contains a red-linked image. [[Template:Foo]] is transcluded on to 1000 different articles. An editor fixes the [[Template:Foo]] but the 1000 articles would show the red-linked image until they get a null edit (I think I'm correct about this). It would be useful if Filedelinkerbot could make null edits to all the 1000 articles in the following list [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Foo&hidelinks=1&hideredirs=1]], and the red-linked images on those 1000 articles would go away. Does that make sense? - tucoxn\talk 10:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ok, this is a totally different story, and, if I'm not mistaken, is processed internally by MediaWiki, although as a low-prio database operation which can cause some delay depending on database load. If you can prove that this doesn't work, we could investigate further. --Krd 15:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

The Ribbon International edit

This revert doesn't make sense? [1] --NeilN talk to me 17:47, 25 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hello NeilN. I don't know. I just reverted the image removal by the bot because the reason no longer exists. If there is another reason to remove the file from the article, please go ahead. Thank you. --Krd 04:53, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

@krd i just added a image on rapid transit in india page coz tht page urgently need an image but every time added the image it was removed by @Filedelinkerbot so i wanna ask why @Filedelinkerbot removed the image i added! Thnk you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudhir7777 (talkcontribs) 09:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Dear Sudhir7777. Please see commons:Commons:Licensing. You may not grab images from the internet without permission of the copyright holder. --Krd 09:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot missed a deleted file on Commons edit

Hello. I noticed that the bot missed the deletion of File:Dennis Trillo pic.jpg from Commons. The file had been in the article Dennis Trillo. It was deleted as a result of commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Doubledutch781 and the file was deleted on 30 March 2014 by Commons:User:Ellin Beltz. I fixed that article today but the file was deleted several months ago. Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 03:57, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I installed a more robust section of the bot code recently, which, when all infobox specials fail, simply removes any occurence of the plain file name. All unlinks which still fail are going to be listed at User:Filedelinkerbot/failed unlinks (with a lot of false positives from navigation bar cases). If you want to help cleaning this maintenance page, you're welcome. --Krd 07:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for telling me about the User:Filedelinkerbot/failed unlinks page. Maybe you added something about it to the bot's page and I missed it. I'm watching it now and I'll see what links there I can clean up. I've been cleaning some templates of red-linked photos lately and I noticed KylieTastic‎‎ is also back doing some editing. I'll see if we've hit some of these pages already. Thanks again! - tucoxn\talk 21:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Yes I'm semi back. Although it was a bit depressing that Category:Articles with missing files had grown to over 2000 after clearing it, I have to tip my hat to the bot that has really kept it from growing at the massive rate it was before. It's much easier to clear back down. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:56, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

File re-linker? edit

Hi Krd. While going through red-linked files, I noticed an article called 430th Maryland General Assembly. If you look in this article's history, you'll notice that KylieTastic and I updated several image names after an edit by Sfan00 IMG regarding fixing an image redirect. I believe the images KylieTastic and I fixed were broken because of broken redirects from file re-naming on Commons. Do you know of a bot that updates file names on the wikipedia projects after a move or re-name was done on Commons? Thanks! - tucoxn\talk 11:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

As far as I know one can instruct Commonsdelinker to replace file usage, but this normally isn't necessary because redirects shall not be deleted at Commons, even more if they are in use. --Krd 17:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Reply


Deleted pictures: A mistake or not? edit

Hello Krd. I just discovered that dozens of the pictures I had made for wikibook have disappeared from commons. The history states that you removed them. Is it a mistake, or is it intended? In the last case, you would be kind explaining why you removed them, as I did not receive any message about this, and I have no idea of what could have been offending with these pictures. An example: [2] is an article (in French) where I explain how to draw a Mandelbrot set in JavaScript with ImageJ. And just after the script I posted the image build by the script. I think it useful that the reader can see what the script makes, just after the script. And I really wonder what can be offending with the Mandelbrot set...

Alain Busser (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Dear Alain. User:JackPotte recently transferred a lot of files from french projects to Commons, and some of them have been deleted by me because they are not correctly licensed for Commons. Please get in touch with JackPotte to rectify the situation. Thank you. --Krd 16:33, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot Error edit

Hey Krd,

First mistake I've seen the bot make, so not a big issue, but I can see it could happen again. However fixing may not be easy depending on the code :/

Problem was that the file name to remove was the end of another valid file name - This is the edit: [3]

Luckily it should always cause a problem that gets flagged on Articles with missing files - so should get easily caught and fixed

Just thought I'd let your know. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:01, 27 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi KylieTastic. You're right, this is a real mistake. I made a minor change now to address this, i.e. not removing the raw file name if there was already a successful more complicated match before. This may lead to more missed unlinks, so we should watch this for a while. Thank you. --Krd 06:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

File:Aga khan - photo - 'In Divine Company' edit

Hi krd

  File:Aga khan - photo - 'In Divine Company', The Ottawa Citizen, 28 February 2014.jpg - provided link to copyright permission page of Canadian PM's office.

The photograph is the property of the Canadian Prime Minister's Office. Please see this and other photos of the same occasion at http://pm.gc.ca/eng/photo-gallery/his-highness-aga-khan-delivers-address-parliament.

Please see the copyright statement at http://pm.gc.ca/eng/important-notices#Copyright and specifically to the following clause: "Non-commercial Reproduction: Information on this site has been posted with the intent that it be readily available for personal and public non-commercial use and may be reproduced, in part or in whole and by any means, without charge or further permission from the Office of the Prime Minister (of Canada)." Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 05:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Dear Salim e-a ebrahim. Sadly I cannot find the image you mean. Please provide a link. Thank you. --Krd 07:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply


Hi krd: Here is the link to the specific photo concerned: http://pm.gc.ca/sites/pm/files/styles/photogallery_item/public/media/photos/20140227_pg_11.jpg?itok=ps4QEkGY

I think that is what you are asking for. If not then let me know. Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 08:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

So we are discussing File:Aga khan - photo - 'In Divine Company', The Ottawa Citizen, 28 February 2014.jpg which has been deleted today at Wikimedia Commons. As you said, he image is free for noncommercial use, but we need also commercial use at Wikimedia Commons. Please see Commons:Commons:Licensing. --Krd 08:14, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'll have to ask the PM's office to provide a permission letter for commercial use for Wikipedia and I'll forward it when I have it. Best regards. Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 08:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Please use the templates from Commons:Commons:Email templates/Consent if possible. --Krd 08:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Krd: I'll just bypasss the permissions-commons and simply upload the photo directly into the relevant Wikipedia page with the non-commercial permission given to me. Will that be okay? Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 09:56, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I don't know the fair-use rules of the Englisch Wikipedia in detail, so I cannot advise on this topic. --Krd 09:58, 17 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hello Salim e-a ebrahim. Uploading the file to English Wikipedia, as opposed to Commons, may be an option. Unfortunately, English Wikipedia also has complicated rules on non-free content (see Wikipedia:Non-free content), which is how to consider an image that is free for non-commercial use. Also see Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Perhaps the most important aspect of adding non-free content to English Wikipedia is the non-free use rationale, which is mentioned several times on both pages I mentioned. You can find more information on non-free use rationales at Category:Non-free use rationale templates. Please let me know here if I can help more. - tucoxn\talk 02:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Tucoxn - you saved me a lot of time :) Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 10:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot edit

Can you run it on ko.wikipedia? There is lots of local file deleted and left delinked... And I find this bot useful.  Revi 03:39, 11 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Revi. The bot is currently running at dewiki for local and commons files and at enwiki for commons files only. It does several additional things at dewiki related to flagged revisions, and the code is grown over years and not as scalable as it should be.
I'd be happy to run it at additional wikis, but I prefer to rewrite some parts first, which needs some time but should be manageable until end of this year. Also, as I don't speak Korean and even cannot read the letters, so I need a lot of ongoing support by someone who does. If you like, please go ahead and start the necessary local kowiki discussions, if necessary. --Krd 19:21, 11 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
kowiki does not use FlaggedRevs (discussion about flaggedrevs are ongoing, though) and I am willing to help you if nessesary. (I don't think local discussion is needed.)  Revi 05:15, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
I suggest that we first find an account name to run it on and continue discussion on that talk page, to have at least a bit documentation. Are there local crats at kowiki, do we get a bot flag there or must this be done at meta? --Krd 08:30, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Well, English name works well (or we can have a documentation on userpage), I think. (SUL!) We have 7 crats, so meta is unnessesary. BRFA is here.  Revi 08:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Note that approval is not a requirement on kowiki - you can run some test on kowiki when you want. Just make sure don't flood the RecentChanges.  Revi 08:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ok, I get back to you as soon as I'm ready. --Krd 08:59, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

For updates please see meta:User talk:Krd#Filedelinkerbot. --Krd 03:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot edit

Hi, I've rewritten the CommonsDelinker bot, and it seems to be fighting it out with Filedelinkerbot :-) Unless you have some special functionality in it that I missed, or have emotional attachment to it, I suggest you turn it off for a while and see if my bot can pick up the slack. It should fix Commons deletions within <10min or so. --Magnus Manske (talk) 17:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

My bot can revert it's unlinks if files get restored, which happens often enough, so I intentionally set it up to be quicker than the old Commonsdelinker. I can stop it of course if you advise accordingly. --Krd 18:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I hope you didn't turn off Filedelinkerbot but it looks like perhaps you did sometime in January (my German is not very good but I think I read it here). It seems to not be working well and CommonsDelinker is back to its old habit of not catching everything. It seems like Filedelinkerbot hasn't removed many instances of en.wp files during this first half of February (see Filedelinkerbot contribs). I've noticed this because I've recently fixed several instances of files that were deleted from Commons but not removed from en.wp articles (see 1, 2, 3, and 4). Also, I've noticed that Category:Articles with missing files has recently been growing faster than it used to do, when Filedelinkerbot was working better. I don't know what happened but people are noticing. I would appreciate it being turned back on – a little competition between bots can be a good thing (as long as it doesn't break the wiki). That CommonsDelinker wasn't catching everything was the reason we got your bot running on en.wp in the first place, about a year ago (February 2014). Hope your new year is going well Krd and thanks for your help! - tucoxn\talk 01:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Tucoxn. You are right with both points. I did disable it (and I thought I noted it somewhere which I actually must have forgotten) as I was told Commonsdelinker had been rewritten and shall be stable, but as I have now restarted it, it does find a notable amount of files that have obviously not been delinked before. I changed the delay to 20 minutes to give Commonsdelinker a chance to do his work first, and put my script back active. --Krd 11:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much! Perhaps changing the delay to 20 minutes will help Filedelinkerbot and CommonsDelinker work better together. Pinging Magnus Manske and KylieTastic‎ so they are aware. - tucoxn\talk 12:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

@Tucoxn: Do you have some minutes to take care of the restored files? --Krd 18:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot mangled .lk edit

The bot mangled the page .lk. I have reverted the edit and removed the missing file link. --Bamyers99 (talk) 22:34, 17 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Bamyers99. Thank you for that. I'm not totally sure how this went so badly wrong, but I made some some improvements now which I hope will fix that. --Krd 05:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)Reply


Alinea Photograph edit

Your stupid bot deleted my beautiful photo on the Alinea page. What the hell? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.217.119 (talk) 15:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi 68.231.217.119! Your photo was actually deleted by A.Savin at 18:15 on August 20, 2015. For more information, see Commons:File:AlineaDessert.jpeg. FileDelinkerbot didn't delete the photo from Alinea (restaurant) - it just removed the red-link after the photo was deleted. Feel free to discuss the photo's deletion with A.Savin. Cheers! - tucoxn\talk 20:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for calling your bot stupid, I will take up my beef with A.Savin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.217.119 (talk) 03:05, 6 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom elections are now open! edit

Hi,
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FYI edit

I've left you a message at Meta Wiki. --Ches (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Why did you delete the photo of Moshe Ha-Elion? edit

Hello, my name is Antonia and I created the page about Holocaust survival Moshe Ha-Elion. I don't understand why did you delete several photos in the Moshe Ha-Elion article. Would you be so kind to add them again? All the photos were correct and were under Creative Commons or public domain. Thank you very much and greetings from Madrid / Antonia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonia Tejeda Barros (talkcontribs) 13:27, 27 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Antonia Tejeda Barros: The photos from Moshe Ha-Elion were deleted from Commons by Jcb and INeverCry, not Krd or Filedelinkerbot (which simply removed the red-links from the article after the photos were deleted). Apparently, the files you uploaded were missing documentation of permissions and copyright. Please see Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Antonia Tejeda Barros and Commons: File:Moshe Ha Elion in his house. Bat Yam, Israel, January 21, 2016.jpg for more information. Feel free to discuss the photos' deletion with Jcb and INeverCry, or Gunnex. Cheers! - tucoxn\talk 03:48, 28 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Orphaned non-free image File:Ernst Bornstein.jpg edit

 

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Orphaned non-free image File:BelkBowl Logo.jpeg edit

 

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Delinker question edit

Hi, I have a feature request for Filedelinkerbot; I don't know how practical this would be to implement (let alone the reaction at BRFA), so I just wanted to raise the idea.

The latest edit to Jonas Brothers is the bot removing an infobox image that a Commons admin deleted as a copyvio. This image was added 3½ years ago by someone who replaced the previous image with the one that just now got deleted. With this in mind: would it be possible (and if so, would it be practical) for the bot to follow a new procedure?

  1. If the file is in an infobox, go to step 2; otherwise, delink as normal
  2. Check the page history: was there another image in the infobox immediately before this one? If so, go to step 3; otherwise, delink as normal
  3. Is the previous image still in existence? If so, revert to that image (and revert the caption to whatever it last said when the newly-reverted-to image was last present); if not, delink as normal

I'm imagining "immediately before" being in relation to the user who made the changes: were old removed and new added in the same edit (as here), or if not, were they in the same string of edits by a user, i.e. if you'd hit [rollback] on the last edit by that person, would the old image be back in the infobox?

If you have any questions or suggestions, please ping me. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Nyttend. In theory this all is possible, but in practice there are too many problems. Even for the normal delinking there are dozens of different infobox type calling the file file, image, logo, etc. and the caption line caption, text, description or whatever, in any combination. I'd say the solution for infoboxes is to pull the image from wikidata, where the whole story can take place much more easy. --Krd 05:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Okay, thanks for considering it; I have no bot-running experience, so I wasn't clear whether it would be trivial or impossible. Nyttend (talk) 11:50, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
The idea was good, and if all infoboxes had the same keywords it would be worth considering further for a one-tine medium amount of work. But in the real world this really is too expensive. --Krd 16:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Blocking on Wikimedia Commons edit

Iam an active contributor to Wikimedia commons. On this evening when Iam trying to upload an image, I've seen that Iam blocked for abusing in November 2017. I think it may be a technical issue because I do nothing else but only uploading images to wiki. And the link [4] shows I'm blocked from 2017, although I've uploaded a few images this morning. Can you please check this as soon as possible.--IM3847 (talk) 13:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Please try again now. --Krd 15:45, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. It was resolved. —IM3847 (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Your script running from your account edit

In regards to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Krd, you really should consider getting a bot account to update that template and file for BRFA to get it approved. You're beginning to raise a few eyebrows. I have the authority to approve/deny/revoke bots and block them, so if you file for approval and ping me, I can swiftly approve it for you.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Cyberpower678: Please see: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Krdbot Thx! --Krd 16:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Approved.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:37, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
So this is to be done with the bot account but without bot flag, right? --Krd 16:40, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
It should be done with the bot account. When a bureaucrat gets around to it, they'll add the bot flag. You can still perform the bot task from the bot account in the meantime. ~ Rob13Talk 16:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thx. --Krd 16:47, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Your bot has been flagged, please be sure to include the appropriate parameters in your scripting to make use of it. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 17:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thx. --Krd 17:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Discussion invite edit

Hi! I am currently exploring some issues regarding Filedelinkerbot and a few other misc. things related to CAT:MISSFILE. I wanted to let you know that I have began a discussion here which you may be interested in contributing to. Cheers, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 18:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

BAGBot: Your bot request Filedelinkerbot 3 edit

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Your BRFA edit

Hi Krd, your BRFA (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Filedelinkerbot 3) has been approved. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 15:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! --Krd 15:59, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Krdbot and OTRS backlog edit

Hi Krd, I hope all is well. I noticed Krdbot (talk · contribs) hasn't updated {{OTRS backlog}} since December 29 and just wanted to drop you a note in case you were not aware. Thanks, --B (talk) 23:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

The page isn't updated if the measured value differs too much from the value in the page, which is the case for some days. I'm getting a notification then, but I didn't have any time yet to look into details. --Krd 17:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@B: There are a few unhandled tickets above 100 days. When they have been processed, the problem should disappear. --Krd 07:55, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Okay, thanks. Is there any suggested SOP for handling these? It looks like, in most cases, we sent a follow-up email and the requestor replied, but nobody processed that follow-up message. Is it okay to just process them? That wouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes (e.g. the person who was originally handling the ticket)? --B (talk) 23:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
The script counts only those where no agent did reply yet, so it will help to handle that few. But it is generally ok to handle any open ticket which is not locked. --Krd 07:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Loaded Sista Page edit

Please conduct a thorough research before adding to the article, The duo 'Loaded Sista' has NO Affiliation with Blak Prophetz Mark Anthony' or Digital Jukebox Records. No References, No Press, No Documented Evidence of Association with Blak Prophetz or the label Digital Jukebox Records therefore STOP associating them with the latter. The OTRS Wiki-Authorize file associated with the upload(s) of images has been removed (https://www.loadedsista.com/wiki-authorize.asp ) Therefore it is no longer valid for public use, Please obtain rights from the author. Author has sent email to Permissions Commons for removal.JonS (talk) 09:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

I provided reasons for its removal on 12:31, 19 February 2019, User KRrd MUST read article notes before adding un-cited information to my article.RapwriterWiki (talk) 09:35, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
https://web.archive.org/web/20180904003616/http://digitaljukeboxrecords.com/Artists/ - Alexis Jazz 20:42, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Filedelinkerbot and recently removed (and restored) heavily used Commons file edit

Please see Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#User:RonBot trouble possibly in need of intervention – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 04:36, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Finnusertop: Please let me know details if there is anything I can help with. --Krd 05:45, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, please validate that you are no longer processing anything backlogged for that file, and drop a note at BOTN. — xaosflux Talk 11:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned non-free image File:BelkBowl Logo.jpeg edit

 

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Krdbot and OTRS backlog edit

Hallo Krd, I noticed filedelinkerbot has removed "Bot: Removing Commons:File:-2 PETERS ROSE MAI 19 3.jpg (en). It was deleted on Commons by Jcb (No OTRS permission for 30 days). undo". On German Page https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Walter_Peters there is permission for the file: "CC BY-SA 4.0Hinweise zur Weiternutzung File:-2 PETERS ROSE MAI 19 3.jpg - Eine Genehmigung des Urhebers bzw. Rechteinhabers zur Nutzung dieser Datei wurde am 20. Mai 2019 per E-Mail an permissions-de@wikimedia.org (OTRS-Ticketnummer 2019050410002099) geschickt. OTRS-Bearbeiter: --Krd 18:42, 20. Mai 2019 (CEST) Erstellt: 2019-05-11" Gelsomina~dewiki

  Done --Krd 06:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I want learn how to create a new page edit

I am tbiw I joined Wikipedia not so long and I want to learn how to create a new page please teach because I checked your profile and I see you have been long in this place use your experience to guide me. Tbiw (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Please see Wikipedia:Tutorial. --Krd 07:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

I did not see anything like our to create page so please explain with by yourself or tell me another source. Tbiw (talk) 04:43, 6 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Barnstar for you edit

  The Guidance Barnstar
You showed me the way to be a great or more great person on wikipedia Tbiw (talk) 16:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Talkpages edit

Can a user create talk page for a user Tbiw (talk) 11:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Krd edit

Is it good to put all personal information on Wikipedia user pages Tbiw (talk) 11:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Question 1 edit

Is asking too much question disruptive Tbiw (talk) 11:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

bureaucractship edit

Please can you contest for bureaucractship Tbiw (talk) 11:13, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

JavaScript bot edit

How to learn how to create JavaScript bot Tbiw (talk) 09:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Special:Diff/992114354 edit

Did you notice that the file also is on Commons under the same name? The Commons copy mentions a different author. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

I did not notice, but it is correct as it is now. Thank you! --Krd 07:56, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

LTA sock edit

I also need to request to lock these accounts because they are a soockpuppets of a serial vandal abusing from different wikis. I was going to request this from meta wiki but I got prevented from editing. So do globally lock these accounts. Thanks. 117.99.164.140 (talk) 16:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

The accounts are inactive since 2017, what is the reason to lock them? --Krd 16:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Please Don't Go edit

Could this cover be restored and disc image from alternative release could be removed instead but anyway they are two different versions. Eurohunter (talk) 15:03, 18 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sadly I cannot follow. Please say again. --Krd 16:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Bot removed the main cover. Eurohunter (talk) 18:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
…because the image was deleted. Please speak with the admin who deleted the file. --Krd 18:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Question regarding Filedelinkerbot edit

Hey, I was wondering if while your bot (User:Filedelinkerbot) removes an image (see [5] as an example), it could also remove the associated parameters (see [6] as an example)? Gonnym (talk) 12:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sadly there are too many different kinds of infoboxes. We can try to keep up with that, but it's not easy. --Krd 17:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Jonny Lake edit

Hi there! I added an image to the Jonny Lake article. It says that ground one for non free was violated. However i think a human ought to assess that as I very carefully provided a free use rationale for the image and covered all 10 grounds. Please can you assist me in knowing where I went wrong. I definitely do not want to incorrectly add images again. How can I avoid having bots delete it, aside from adding my free use rationale? Such-change47 (talk) 01:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Please contact the admin who deleted the file: [7] --Krd 04:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Deleted pictures for federal judges edit

Hello,

I show that you have deleted numerous pictures for various federal judges I posted. Can you give me more clarity as to why these pictures were deleted? None of them should violate any copyright items? I am just trying to confirm the reason they were deleted. For example, “John Z. Lee” picture was deleted. MIAJudges (talk) 19:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello. All these photos appear to be television screenshots. Can you elaborate why theey are not copyright violations? --Krd 04:28, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply