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Lists of New Testament minuscules

I happened upon Category:Lists of New Testament minuscules, and noticed that many of the articles (for example, #301–#401) duplicate material from the larger articles (in this case, #1–#1000). Subset articles are fine, but only if they add additional information not present in the larger ones. I won't nominate them for deletion or anything, but I would suggest consolidating the information at the thousand-entry level if there's nothing further to add at the smaller ones. — Goszei (talk) 02:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@Goszei: The subsets are combined in the thousand-entry level articles to reduce the size of each one. I have removed one duplicate material (1-500) that is now redirected to 1-1000. Thanks. JohnThorne (talk) 16:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Corrected. JohnThorne (talk) 07:50, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Textual variants in the First Epistle of John for deletion

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@Veverve: A comment is added in the discussion. JohnThorne (talk) 21:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

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Link removed. JohnThorne (talk) 21:02, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Fixed. JohnThorne (talk) 15:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Psalm 86

Do you think you could add some about what Psalm 86 is about? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: information added for Psalm 86. JohnThorne (talk) 21:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

That is great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2021

Your edit to Isaiah 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, and 35 have been removed in whole or in part, as it appears you added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 00:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@Diannaa: The website you referred to apparently uses the same primary source as I do which is: Motyer, J. Alec (2015). The Prophecy of Isaiah: An Introduction & Commentary. InterVarsity Press. ISBN 9780830895243. I correctly cited this in my edit, instead of using the material in that website, which is unknown to me. Nonetheless, as this may cause serious copyright issues, I will use different sources. Thank you. JohnThorne (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I do know that you cited Motyer as a source. That book is copyright. The website likely copied from the same book as you. The main point is that you are not allowed to copy copyright text into Wikipedia, no matter where you find it. — Diannaa (talk) 19:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Noted. I will be more careful. Thank you. JohnThorne (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 86

On 18 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 86, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that three verses from Psalm 86 became part of Mendelssohn's oratorio Elijah, including the opening "Lord, bow thine ear to our pray'r"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 86. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 86), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Re. images

I've removed a few. Please take care not to add images which add little to the article (like those depicting the text of the KJV when its already given; or those depicting inscriptions which are unreadable on most screens, ...). No image is better than a bad one. Also, please avoid adding any extraneous formatting to the |caption= parameter (as that is non-standard and unneeded formatting): additionally, it would be better if you could make them shorter (and you don't have to state obvious stuff, like something that is "c. 1250" being from the Middle Ages).Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. JohnThorne (talk) 19:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

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Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings,

Requesting your visit to Draft:Intellectual discourse over re-mosqueing of Hagia Sophia and article expansion help if you find you interest in the topic.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 12:05, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

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Fixed. JohnThorne (talk) 19:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)