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Your clearly not a bad guy and we seem to have been talking past each other. Olive branch and peace in our time. I think the tread has reached its last breath anyway :) Ceoil (talk) 04:32, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ceoil: Indeed, I think it has. The ball is in Johnbod's court now (and of course there's the other part of that mess to be dealt with, but that's not for me). Thanks for understanding. Olive branch gratefully accepted. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Cheers. Dunno about you, but every time I venture onto AN/I, which is not often, I spend a week shuttering. Not a collegial atmosphere for calmly working out differences! ps, always great to see people who appreciate the true greatness of Starship Troopers. Ceoil (talk) 11:05, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gaspar JiménezEdit

 On 24 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gaspar Jiménez, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Gaspar Jiménez, who was indicted in 1981 for a bombing attack on radio newscaster Emilio Milián, was later convicted for plotting to assassinate Cuban president Fidel Castro? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gaspar Jiménez. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gaspar Jiménez), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Emilio MiliánEdit

 On 24 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Emilio Milián, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Gaspar Jiménez, who was indicted in 1981 for a bombing attack on radio newscaster Emilio Milián, was later convicted for plotting to assassinate Cuban president Fidel Castro? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Emilio Milián), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!Edit

Thanks a lot! I would like ONE advice from you. pretty please...! THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@ImmortalWizard: What would like advice about? Vanamonde (Talk) 19:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Like in general, what can help with, what should I focus on, writing FAs etc. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 19:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
@ImmortalWizard: Okay then; the most obvious piece of advice is, avoid AN/ANI unless a discussion is about something you are personally involved. Little good comes of ANI threads in general; even less good comes of uninvolved non-admins diving into something they generally do not have the background knowledge to understand. Spend your time writing content; that's what we're here to do. If there's nothing you are personally interested in enough to work on, this is a good place to begin: this is another. Don't try going to FAC just yet, and don't nominate an article there unless you've added enough to it that you know the source material quite thoroughly. If you're still interested in maintenance work, then try new page patrol, or counter-vandalism. Leave the WP:CESSPIT alone. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Have a look at my latest comment here for my insight. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
@ImmortalWizard: I'm not sure which of your comments on that page you are referring to, but MelanieN covered a lot of what I would say in response. Fundamentally, we are here to write an encyclopedia, and that's what you should be looking to do. ANI and AN are meant to deal with egregious disruption, and for that very reason, are best left to admins. They are probably the two most unpleasant and hostile places on Wikipedia. Being "correct" has virtually nothing to do with successfully dealing with conflict there. So, once again, please stay away from them. You said that you are autistic. I don't know where you fall on the spectrum you fall, but a fair number of people on it have difficult with social communication. If this is true for you, that's even more of a reason to stay away from the drama boards. Regards, Vanamonde (Talk) 21:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Invoking WP:THERAPY will be probably rude but edits like this coupled with some bizarre edit-summaries don't instill any confidence. WBGconverse 11:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
You don't need to wikihound and point out the errors. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 11:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) My advice would be this - ImmortalWizard, stay off ANI before you get blocked. Working on cricket articles is fine, as is improving Ram Mohan Roy. Stick to mainspace. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Ritchie333, there is no complete right or wrong. I should be able to participate ANI as long as I create no controversies and do something block worthy. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 12:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@ImmortalWizard: That's now three administrators who have told you, quite nicely, to leave ANI alone, and you seem quite disinterested in taking that advice (even though advice is what you asked for). So, let me be a little bit more blunt. If your subsequent edits to ANI are as misguided as the ones you made to the TRM/Johnbod thread, you will end up blocked, or at the very least formally t-banned from ANI. Please, stay away from there, and avoid that path altogether. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
This thread had nothing to do with ANI to me. Admins themselves are wikihounding he everywhere. Of course I will ignore if they overly give "advice". Admins are supposed to be nothing more than regular editors who have access to some additional stuff. As long as I don't do anything wrong, no one can block me. If you look at Ritchie333, you can clearly see wikihounding. Hence, they should be warned. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@ImmortalWizard: Ritchie is not stalking you; he (presumably) has watchlisted my talk page, as I have his. Furthermore, administrators frequently check up on the contributions of a newish editor, particularly one who is dabbling at ANI, because they want to help that user avoid further trouble. I'm quite concerned that you seem unable to understand this. "Wrong" is not a word I would use, but your previous contributions to ANI were disruptive, and you will be blocked if you continue in that vein. And really I don't want to prolong this conversation much further; just please reflect on what I and several others have told you. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Just a final note before I leave: Ritchie is bringing have the same admin thread elsewhere such as User talk:EEng where it had nothing to do with ANI or disruption. I hope it was coincidental. Just because you are an admin, you shouldn't join any bandwagon without any reason. Admins and editors are basically the same, whereas admins get to clean more. That's it. How about this: If you anywhere bring the ANI stuff again, I will consider it tag team and and appeal for admin abuse. Any one can warn or give advice to anyone. If you have anything it say, feel free to come to my talk instead. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:48, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019Edit

WikiCup 2019 March newsletterEdit

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  •   L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
  •   Adam Cuerden, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
  •   MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
  •   Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
  •   Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
  •   Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk).

Thank youEdit

I won't disappoint. Atsme✍🏻📧 21:05, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: You're welcome. Happy editing. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.

  Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
    • paid-en-wp wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
    • checkuser-en-wp wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.

  Miscellaneous


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DYK for Theodora KroeberEdit

 On 6 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Theodora Kroeber, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1961 book Ishi in Two Worlds by Theodora Kroeber told the story of Ishi (pictured), the last known member of the Yahi people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Theodora Kroeber. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Theodora Kroeber), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ishi in Two WorldsEdit

 On 6 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ishi in Two Worlds, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1961 book Ishi in Two Worlds by Theodora Kroeber told the story of Ishi (pictured), the last known member of the Yahi people? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ishi in Two Worlds), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ursula K. Le GuinEdit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ursula K. Le Guin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ursula K. Le GuinEdit

The article Ursula K. Le Guin you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Ursula K. Le Guin for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Theodora KroeberEdit

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Depth of understandingEdit

Please help my English: what does "its depth of understanding" mean, in the Zuzana Marková (soprano) hook? I wrote the article but not that section, and have no idea. Looks like a strange translation from French to me, a language I speak even less than English. We had a simple hook, but not good enough for the critics, - no we have one that I don't understand ;) - I will sleep through most of it, - wondering - again - why European topics go to the first set on a day when we sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

It's quite possible it's a strange translation, but I don't speak French, and cannot attempt to improve on it. It could be understanding of the role, of the character, of the music, of the vocal technique; I don't know. The interesting point was that it was a well-reviewed last-minute performance; I just made sure the hook said what the article does. If you think it's too confusing, I'm happy to reopen the discussion instead. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:00, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
I let it stand, also because of my deficiencies in English, but have no idea how a performance can have "depth of understanding", or what does "its" refer to if not to performance. Learning? - Btw, if you can get any chance to see her take it! I was lucky, and happy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Theodora KroeberEdit

The article Theodora Kroeber you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Theodora Kroeber for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

TFL notificationEdit

Hi, Vanamonde. I'm just posting to let you know that Ursula K. Le Guin bibliography – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 29. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Giants2008: Thanks, and I'll try to have a look at it before it goes live. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Comment on Kim Clijsters FAC?Edit

Hi Vanamonde93, I am planning on nominating Kim Clijsters as an FAC once it passes its GA review (hopefully in the next day or so). Seeing as you helped out with getting Milos Raonic promoted to an FA, I was wondering if you could comment on the FAC. Thank you, Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sportsfan77777: Thanks for thinking of me. I am extremely busy in real life over the next two weeks. I will do my best to get to it after that, but I'm afraid I cannot make any promises. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, no worries. I'll let you know where it stands in early April, and maybe by then it will have a bunch of reviews. I've asked some other editors for help as well. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Cory Booker 2020 presidential campaignEdit

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Please comment on Talk:Gab (social network)Edit

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Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (UK game show)‎Edit

Hi there, Thanks for protecting Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (UK game show)‎. Pepper Gaming (talk) 18:15, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

REEdit

RE diff - kudos for reading and closing that huge ANI thread. While I presented a different arguement there - I understand your close - it simply got derailed every which way (and being opened on separate issues prior to being merged into one joint thread did not help). The topic does need an uninvolved admin willing to wade in (staying uninvolved on content). Icewhiz (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: You're welcome. The topic is certainly a mess; far too many individuals are unable or unwilling to separate their personal views from what RS say about a given topic. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
It is not that simple. I have been mainly gravitated to mediating on MEK (editing it directly fairly little) - and sourcing on MEK is both sparse - and all over the place on POV. It used to be designated as terrorist (heyday of Saddam) by most of the world except Iraq - now only Iraq and Iran consider them so. They have an odd ideology and all sorts of quirks. Even if you throw Iranian sources out (e.g. due to gvmt censorship on one hand, and MEK for being well MEK) you have wildly differing POVs in recent Western sources. Some of the other Iranian topics are simpler (e.g. the 2017-8 protests) - most of the Western sources speak in one voice. And sourcing is sparse - e.g. we haven't yet found a decent source for and Iran-MEK casulty estimate.Icewhiz (talk) 21:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I'm aware of that. My point is that the tone of our articles needs to be determined by examining the whole body of decent sources, whereas editors in contentious areas tend to find a source that supports their POV and then ignore all others. That inability to see the broad picture is the root of the problem, in my view. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

March GOCE newsletterEdit

Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter
 

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2018. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2019, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from all of the articles tagged in our original target months of June, July and August 2018, and by 24 January we ran out of articles. After adding September, we finished the month with 8 target articles remaining and 842 left in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 48 requests for copyedit in January. Of the 31 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 32 copyedits, including 15 requests. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 23:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 108 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 851 articles.

March Drive: The month-long March drive is now underway; the target months are October and November 2018. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here!

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WP:AE#Mountain157Edit

Hello Vanamonde93, it seems that Mountain157 isn't going to make a statement. They removed my message regarding the enforcement request. What is the policy for non-participating users? MrClog (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@MrClog: There isn't a specific policy for individuals who choose not to participate. Common sense would suggest that we give them the time to respond, but if they are active elsewhere and ignore AE, or disappear entirely when sanctions are proposed, the process is likely to just move on without him. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Immigration and crime in GermanyEdit

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