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Mohan Bhagwat marital status

When I searched for 'Mohan Bhagwat' google suggested a search for 'Mohan Bhagwat wife'. So I added to his page that he is a bachelor. Why is it not-needed? I don't need it myself but it looks like people are searching for that information. And calling it 'unsourced info' shows your lack of knowledge of the subject. Why don't you source info about his being married? Most big names have a section for 'personal life'. In Bhagwat's case there is hardly any personal life, and a separate section is not needed. But one sentence in 'early life' section should not be a problem. Anyway I am adding it back and sourcing it this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.33.195.253 (talk) 07:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hindkowans

Dear User:Fylindfotberserk, with your background in helping to improve South Asian ethnic group-related articles, I'd appreciate if you could take the time to examine the situation here and continue to offer your comments. I will be busy this month and would be grateful if you could keep an eye on things. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 15:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: Thanks for notifying me. I'll try to check that article every now and then. Though I've quite a lot of pending work to complete here in Wikipedia, I was out for 4 months. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Good faith edits on Barak Valley

I included some minority languages spoken in Barak Valley, but you deleted them. I am a native of Barak valley and those languages are actually spoken there. Without including the minority languages, the information will be incomplete and it will be unfair. So I will try to find the correct reference. If you find the correct reference and add those languages I will be grateful. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

@Truthfulsoldier: Well I agree with, but Wikipedia strives for completeness rather fairness. I'll try to add census data and arrange the languages accordingly. Thanks for communicating. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:24, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my concern. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:07, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Another thing is that Sylheti is actually spoken by the majority in Barak valley but it is considered as a dialect of Bengali by most people, although a few linguists also consider it to be a separate language. I as a native speaker of Sylheti can attest to the fact Standard Bengali is limited to formal and official purposes only. Sylheti may be under reported or may be unreported in census data. The situation is similar to Hindi vs Bhojpuri, Hindi vs Awadhi,etc.The 'big' languages or the Standard languages/Prestige dialects like Standard Hindi, Standard Bengali, Assamese etc. are often over represented in census data due to Socio-Political reasons. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Census typically goes by what the speakers self-identify as. While Hindi is used as an umbrella term, sub languages/dialects are covered in the census like Awadhi, Magahi, Haryanvi, etc. Obviously many Awadhis or Haryanvis would say that Standard Hindi is their mother tongue. But, in the case of Sylheti, census doesn't make any distinction of the sort, despite many linguist categorizes it and Chittagonian as separate languages. Instead, we have Hajong and Rajbanshi as specific sub-languages/dialects within Bengali. In the case of Assamese, many Kachari groups say that they speak Assamese as native tongue which is not the case, seems liek only those people from autonomous regions like Bodoland identify as Bodo speakers - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:35, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again I saw the edit you have made. It's very good. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Welcome . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:50, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Can u do some edits like adding dmy dates etc etc i don't have idea about that

In Tribal Co-operative Marketing Federation of India (TRIFED)》my new article.Also my another article Chauharmal, which i created months ago doesn't appears on google search why? 🙇TqHeba Aisha (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Jesse Ventura

WWE is not always the most reliable source especially when it comes to a guy who left the company 30 years ago like Ventura. Also I could cite actual WWF matches from the 80's on YouTube where they announced him 6'4" 270 lbs range. But I won't make a big deal of it and leave it as is. Just letting you know I was trying to cross reference and make his billed stats as accurate as possible. Hunterb212 (talk) 17:42, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@Hunterb212: I get it. But the section is for "billed heights and weights". So it is better to source from the company website he wrestled in. We've done in in all retired and semi-retired wrestlers' articles like Kane, etc. If you have a video from a verified YouTube channel that mentions his stats "clearly", you can use that IMO. However do not use Cagematch or other sites deemed unreliable for this specific purpose. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Only problem with the videos on YouTube is back in those days they only announced weight not height. So not really able to verify the height but most sources say 6'4" other than WWE. Like I said, not a big deal though, I will leave it as is I just believe WWE may have a typo for his stats on their website. Hunterb212 (talk) 18:15, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@Hunterb212: There was a time, possibly 90s, when they would show a caption with both height and weight. I remember Adam Bomb's 6' 6'" 292 lbs, I saw as a kid. I'll keep an eye if WWE.com ever updates that . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Question regarding metadata

@Fylindfotberserk: Good day, I was curious about how Wikipedia deals with the metadata of files that have been uploaded to the site. I know that most websites these days remove metadata to cloak the origins of the file however I was unsure if Wikipedia did the same given its open source nature. Could you clarify this for me? Prolix 💬 09:51, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: I beleive it is quite open. As far as images are concerned, they can be backtracked to the source. You can visit tehse links for more info. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:01, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, Thanks for the info. The links however don't have exactly what I was looking for. I'll keep looking Prolix 💬 10:13, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Requesting you to take a look at the following edit:

Kindly take a look at this edit on the Andhra Pradesh article. The user seems to have a past history of contentious edits. However, I neither have the knowledge nor the experience to validate his edits, I am hoping you do or at least can get the right people involved. I feel his edits are in good faith but need to be reviewed. Thanks in advance Prolix 💬 17:44, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

His editing is poor surely, but the figures on "Guntur Mandal" (I checked that one only) seems to be correct as per this added by him add the end. I'll do the cleanup later. It seems he's in talks with another guy. There is confusion with census, the census.gov.in provides many version, MP, MP + over growth, UA, etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, the confusion over on his talk page makes sense now. Thanks for checking this out! Prolix 💬 12:29, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: Thanks for reminding me. I'll do the necessary cleanup. Sometimes I have this strong urge to revert edits these because of poor editing skills . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Fylindfotberserk, I feel similarly at times, needy edits are a big issue and at times the effort required to fix them is simply not worth it. Prolix 💬 13:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: I checked a few more refs. I am unable to find matching data and the cities/towns in those. I dunno from where that user found those numbers. I'll wait for a few days to see if someone comes and cleans up his mess. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks once again for checking, Fylindfotberserk. Such edits are always hard to verify, it doesn't seem like the user is diligent in justifying his edits either. Prolix 💬 03:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: I dropped a note in his talk regarding this. Asking him to use inline referencing. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:36, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, He's just made another edit and added a citation. The populations for Visakhapatnam and Vijayawada don't seem to match the source, everything else looks okay. Prolix 💬 09:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Left another note. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh

Reference Pdfs at the Bottom, for the Andhra Pradesh page, has been removed as per your request. Numbers are corrected according to the reference. Still, any changes to improve the page, ready to do.

--VikramVS1208 (talk) 11:05, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@VikramVS1208: Thanks for fixing that up. I've arranged the "citypopulation.de" source moving it to proper position. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Thankyou. --VikramVS1208 (talk) 11:24, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikimedia

Hi! Are you create an images in YouTube link video convert into Wikimedia images or Flickr photo convert into the Wikimedia images. Eswnav (talk) 17:10, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Eswnav: Convertin YT pictures into Wikimedia images will be against our copyright policy. Flickr images are added with proper info on licensing. See Commons:Flickr files for more info. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Goalpara town demographic data

I updated the demographic data of the town in according to 2011 census. It seems I made some mistakes relating to layout. Can you please correct the layout and revert my edits. Thank you Truthfulsoldier (talk) 19:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Truthfulsoldier: Edit one section at a time. That would be better. You added sources on top of the maintenance templates and their syntax got broken. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok Truthfulsoldier (talk) 19:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Indigenous Tibeto burman languages of Goalpara town

Some indigenous Tibeto burman languages like Rabha and Garo are also spoken in Goalpara town. Kindly add that too. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 10:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Goalpariya dialect

You can research and cite from the following source for Goalpariya- Dutta, Birendranath (1995). "A Note on the Dialects of Goalpara". A Study of the Folk Culture of the Goalpara Region of Assam. Guwahati, Assam: University Publication Department, Gauhati University. pp. 281–301.

                  Birendranath Dutta is a famous linguist and scholar from Assam. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 10:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Partial range block

Hi, Fylindfotberserk. Per your comment at RFPP, I looked further back in the history of Yavatmal and saw there's a slightly larger range, 103.127.77.136/29, doing the same vandalism much further back. (It contains 8 possible accounts, as opposed to just 4 for 103.127.77.140/30.) So I've blocked that range for six months, from Yavatmal only. I keep forgetting to use the partial block possibility, but it seems to be just the ticket here! :-) Bishonen | tålk 16:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Six months, Nice . This guy has been a nuisance. Thanks a bunch. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Re:User

Dear User:Fylindfotberserk, thanks for your message on my talk page. I unfortunately have seen this user editing around the project; it looks like most of their edits have been reversed. Imagine if these users didn't show up randomly and delete referenced information from articles. Hours that accumulate to days of our time would be saved doing something more enjoyable. I hope you're doing well. Your friend, Anupam^Talk 18:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: I've SPIed him in the past thinking this is the sock of our guy "identity". But this one seems to be from Dubai. Anyway his POV pushes are just the same. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm surprised that this user didn't get blocked for WP:DUCK then; it's really easy to identify that user based on his editing behaviour. Anupam^Talk 18:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam:Oops! forgot, I commented but the SPI was field by Orientls here. Admins said unlikely, but asked to notify them if disruptions from his end persists.

To my surprise, after I returned, I see his version reinstated here even after COPYVIOS. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate you keeping an eye on those articles. I try to do so but sometimes just become frustrated with the continued POV pushing and so I just let things be. Thanks again, Anupam^Talk 18:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Bihar

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Thank you for your help. I just had one question: is "per cent" normal Indian English, in place of "percent"? 64.203.187.70 (talk) 14:44, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

As per the script. But I've fixed that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For work keeping tidying up Wikipedia. Kj cheetham (talk) 11:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Gupta Origin.

Hello, You gave an explanation that the content you removed had some sources. Well, I'm also providing source and you also removed a paragraph with source. TeamIndic (talk) 13:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

I added whatever the source mentioned ie. "Solar race". Note that 'Rajput' is a recent term, which was not used by ancient people. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Don't irritate me

See the article Jyoti Bose where his native name has been written in Bengali. So please don't disturb me. Wikifulness (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Jyoti Basu Wikifulness (talk) 01:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

See Kazi Nazrul Islam Wikifulness (talk) 01:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Wikifulness: If you are getting irritated by a Wikipedia policy, it is your problem. Go throguh WP:NOINDICSCRIPT again. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

If native name of this page Kazi Nazrul Islam is applicable, then what's wrong with Alpana Goswami? Wikifulness (talk) 09:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Wikifulness: Because Kazi Nazrul Islam was a Bangladeshi citizen, but Goswami is an Indian citizen. It doesn't apply to people from Bangladesh, Nepal or Pakistan. Likewise it applies to people from British India, who died before partition. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

you ever feel these indiscriminate applications of NOINDIC might be doing more bad than good? It was designed to avoid people jamming multiple scripts and warring over script orders in infoboxes. I've seen that happen with mostly South India languages. But sometimes things and people are unambiguously associated with one script, such as poets, writers etc. I've even seen people removing Indic scripts from shows whose original name is written in Indic scripts (e.g. Chhoti Anandi). Maybe NOINDIC policy needs overhaul, some exceptions should be added. Opinion? Regards, TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 07:37, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@TryKid: I don't see anything bad with this policy. It is NPOV and totally maintains equality. Besides, it is an English Wikipedia. One can always add IPA and/or IAST versions when needed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:49, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

TryKid, I don't know how much value my opinion holds in this matter but I feel the policy is a tad too restrictive and could use a few exceptions. Almost all other languages have their place on en-wiki but India's inherent diversity has become an issue that editors refuse to solve. We've managed to figure out a lot of complicated matters on this site, an outright ban on languages spoken by over a billion people seems like the lazy way to handle things, but I digress. Prolix 💬 19:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

That's the thing. When there are hundreds of languages spoken by 1.4 billion people, there would be unnecessary edit warring in articles. Consider actress Sridevi, she has worked in many languages. Editors would add her name in their preferred languages, result we get 6-7 version of her name in Indian scripts. No..her ethnicity wouldn't mean much, people will add those. Even now you'll find people rearranging Tamil and Telugu in the lead despite clear instructions that it is based on the number of films. Ohh.. And multi-lingual films.. Saaho, RRR, etc. Names of places also, like Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, etc where many kind of speakers live. Can't handle scripts of all official and scheduled languages in the lead. Even in religious articles only Sanskrit script and/or IAST is preferred. It is different from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, etc since they only have a "national language". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, I'm not here to claim that such issues do not exist. They do, but again they're not universal to all topics related to India. India already has an 'official' language' called Hindi, least we could do is let that be used for articles relating to official matters of the country. There's definitely a better way to go about this that we're missing, and I'd like to see a discussion about it at least. The lack of willingness to even consider another option is what I find most appalling. Prolix 💬 08:04, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Hindi is co-official of the union, but it is not official in many states. On top of that, some states have granted additional official status to few other languages. Delhi, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Haryana, etc. All these questions were raised in the consensuses. Initially I was also agianst this policy, but now it seems more neutral to me.. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:12, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, I have no particular issues with it now either but I would like to see an RfC again at some point. Prolix 💬 08:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Are such edits okay?

Hi Fylindfotberserk, I've seen a lot of edits like this recently. I understand how such information would make sense in articles about a timeline of events but I feel every minor development doesn't belong on a company's page as per WP:NOTNEWS. Am I interpreting the policy correctly or is my reasoning here not adequate? Prolix 💬 19:25, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: While the section is about the chronology of the development of the vaccines, day-to-day reporting is not necessary. IMO the two sentences:

As of September 10, 2020 it has been reported that Serum Institute has halted vaccine trials in India after intervention from the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI).[21] This comes when the vaccine trial had to be halted in Oxford after a volunteer developed illness following the dosage.[22] As of 12 September 2020, the vaccine trials are reported to be resumed after receiving a nod from the DGCI as AstraZeneca announced it has got a go-ahead from British regulators.

can be merged together into something like In September 2020 trials were halted by DGCI after a volunteer in Oxford developed illness following dosage, but resumed back following a consent by the British regulators.

Words and phrases like "are reported to" should be avoided as per WP:WEASEL. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:15, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, I agree a simple short sentence seems to make most sense. I hope you don't mind me using your example, its succinct and gets the message across. Prolix 💬 08:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: Go ahead.. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:48, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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Letter

Honourable editors,

[ Sub: Please help wikipedia ]

I am an editor, Nikesh Roy, not logged in. You may remove this letter reading. Please keep my request.

I have edited some pages from 20 Aug 2020, but my edits were unsourced. My edits were removed by some another editors. Then I provided sources, but they removed my edition again. My previous pages were not correct. I want wikipedia's improvement. I edited Geography of West Bengal (with reference), Jalpaiguri Zilla School's 'prizes and recognition' part. Trust me, I want improvement. After giving sources, they undid that again. Then how wikipedia will improve? Please help wikipedia to be more rich. Please help me to write them again or write them. Please.

-Your faithfully

Nikesh Roy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4061:2E9A:93C9:0:0:D88:BA11 (talk) 03:48, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Reddi Kingdom

Hello, Can i know the exact reason for removing my contribution. You've quoted that sources are not reliable?? Have you gone through all the multiple sources I've provided. There are 3 official government district websites of Telangana with their history. Have you read that?? Aren't they considered as reliable. Some of them the articles are from leading newspapers of Telugu and they were meant for preparing State public services. Don't you think they are reliable?? Do you think civil servants read wrong material. If you think them as unreliable, you should have removed that part and should not have touched Government official sources. I've contributed data by gathering so much data so that someone can get to know proper history. Please don't delete data just at a click by saying "Unreliable sources"!! These acts only make people discourage to contribute in Wikipedia. Go through my references again and if you feel it is disruptive editing then you have your freedom. I can see you are an engineer from prestigious NAtional of Technology and don't forget to trust government sources atleast!! I hope I've not done any disruptive editing and I hope you will vet the data properly sir!! Bsr465 (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

You have redone again!! Fine I'm not going to edit it again as I'm amused with your behaviour!! You are denying authentic data by denying government sources. But let me tell you that's reliable data and factual!! The Only major historical research texts that printed data is historian B.N Sarma's book. If its not that one could only read such information either in Government History texts, Government websites or State services books. But anyway as per Wiki policy youve said they are not compliant!! I'm ok with your decision and this is absolutely denying of rightful data for learners in the name of policy in my sense!! I would be happy to know if you could tell how could someone contribute to Wiki if reliable sources like Archeological and Historical research journals are available offline and not a single copy is presently available online!! Thank you Mr. Engineer from National Institute of Technology for letting me know this policy!! Bsr465 (talk) 13:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

desiblitz

Hi Fylindfotberserk. In these you removed desiblitz saying it is not considered reliable by WP:ICTF. I am not an expert in this area, but I thought desiblitz was considered reliable, at least for Desi music. Could you point me to the discussion where the consensus was achieved? I could not locate it in the WT:ICTF archives. --Muhandes (talk) 12:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

@Muhandes: It's more about inclusion of what kind of sources are considered reliable. Both WP:ICTF and WP:ICTFFAQ have a list of reliable sources. There are many, Filmibeat, DailyHunt, Koimoi, DesiBlitz, IWMBuzz, TellyChakkar, Starunfolded, etc that are not considered reliable and not all are listed, but those are removed/replaced with better RS sources whenever possible in a BLP. You can ask at WP:RSN or WP:ICTF if you want. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I just wanted to make sure it is not considered strictly unreliable. --Muhandes (talk) 15:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

@Muhandes: Well anything that isn't part of the list or from the standard news agencies are 'strictly unreliable' IMO. And most guys at WP:ICTF tries to improve on those sources. However if the DesiBlitz has an Award that bears their name like for example DesiBlitz Music Awards or something, then we have to take it as a reliable source for that specific content, isin't it? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't object to any of that. Have fun. --Muhandes (talk) 20:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Amend Sushant cause of death

I am very new on Wikipedia and trying to amend Sushant Singh Rajput Wiki page to amend his "cause of death" section but cant as its probably protected n since ur username on d last edited,reflected on d page...i am writing ds to you. Please can you tell me or can you plz change the Cause Of Death that reads "Suicide By Hanging" which is not right. With all due respect to you and the Wikipedia Team,i on behalf of THE SSRians,the fan and extended family of Sushant Singh Rajput,request you to please edit his Wikipedia page. His cause of death says: "Suicide by hanging" which is not right. No one has seen him or any of his pic, hanging? Not even Mumbai police saw him hanging. Please can you tell me how to do it or can you make the amendments as investigation is still on. Since the investigation is still ongoing,can we not leave that section blank? Atleast we should wait for the investigation to be over. I hope u will consider this and make the changes. RadhaRickk (talk) 04:48, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@RadhaRickk: Go through the section Sushant Singh Rajput#Death. You will find that every thing is written as per the news sources. The recent investigation by the CBI is still going on, if they find something on murder, that will be reflected in the article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Agree with you but when India Today claimed that their sources from CBI have confirmed them that CBI is only looking at suicide angle then CBI clearly released a statement saying n i quote " NO details have been shared with anyone" n that CBI DISMISSES INDIA TODAY report which claimed MURDER angle has been Ruled Out. I totally understand that murder cant be mentioned unless proved but shouldn't it b left blank as investigation is still ongoing. writing "suicide by hanging" is also not right as no one has a proof of that either. All i am requesting is it to be left blank or "invetigation ongoin" which is actually true as even in news that's what they are sayin. No news is claiming any longer that Sushant committed suicide. All are saying that the agencies are investigating. So shouldn't that be mentioned. Writing SUICIDE is completely wrong. Neither the news channels nor the investigating agencies are saying that it was a suicide. Even AIIMS doctors who came to help CBI suggested them to investigate d case as a murder angle... RadhaRickk (talk) 13:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry can't do. Discuss in relevant article talk pages and gain consensus. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:23, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Please clarify

Hey bud, I noticed you changed my edits on Bengali Muslims; removing Assamese Muslims from the infobox because it's a redirect to Islam in Assam. But isn't this the same as your contribution; Indian Muslims redirects to Islam in India? I agree with "similar to Bihari Muslims" but you also didn't add that.

So basically what I am trying to say is I am a bit confused with your edit. Is it not best to say the similar groups are the Muslims of Odisha, Bihar and Assam? UserNumber (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@UserNumber: Islam in Assam includes info on differnt ethnic populations living in Assam who are adherents to Islam. Multiple ethnic groups are mentioned there, including Boros, Desis, Bengalis, etc. Islam in India and Indian Muslims can be used interchangeably since there Indian is not an ethnicity. Moreover, A specific population may link to more than 2-3 groups based on history. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput

Fylindfotberserk, with respect, I'd like to follow up your 08:14, 17 September 2020 contribution to Sushant Singh Rajput's talk page. (Please excuse me for doing so here, but I have recused myself from that page as a misfit.) In the context of a thread about edit requests and other comments protesting Wikipedia's description of SSR's death as suicide, you assert: I don't think there is any cultural and/or religious thing in this. Instead, you attribute these objections to the belief that SSR was murdered. However, a search of the current talk page and its two archives finds 319 mentions of suicide + 8 killed himself but only 75 occurrences of murder. Please understand, I am not disputing your overall interpretation of Indian public opinion. I am inquiring solely about Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput. I would like to know why you think there is no cultural and/or religious component to these edit requests. Specifically, how did you ascertain that the viral photos and videos you cite influenced Wikipedia contributors? NedFausa (talk) 19:08, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@NedFausa: That's because India ranks 16th in the rate of suicide by countries. Though Hinduism and Islam view it as "unacceptable", people kill themselves quite a lot. Recently, Kushal Punjabi committed suicide. There was no fuss about it since no viral pictures of the dead body, no whistleblowers, etc to engage those self-styled internet detectives. In the case of Rajput, there were a lot of suspicious activities noticed by the public, lacunae in police investigation, and some things that do not add up. I've trawled a lot of social media and the general consensus is he died under mysterious circumstances leaning towards murder. These very people, fuelled by net logic and judgment are the ones requesting those edits in my opinion. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:15, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

National Action Plan on Climate Change (India)

I created it with caution complying with policies like WP:POV and source used are third party independent sources. But a user tagged it as promotional. It is not actually as no external commercial website etc are used and target statements are confused as promotional by him. Plz seeking ur feed back on articles talk page where i m contesting against speedy deletion. The user nominated it due to his confusion with the subject. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:44, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Wanted to start a discussion about images on Uttarakhand Comment

Hi @Fylindfotberserk:, a few days ago I noticed that the infobox collage in this article was of very poor quality and instead of the standard amalgamation of multiple images this article had a single merged image which hinders replaceability and quality. So I thought I'd start a discussion on Talk:Uttarakhand regarding the infobox images and gather recommendations from other editors. However, I've never done such a thing before and I figured I should seek your guidance in this matter. Do help me out here! Prolix 💬 12:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: Can't remember any policy against collages. Couldn't find anything on this while skimming these links MOS:IMAGES; WP:IBI either. This collage in Uttarakhand article is low resolution and ugly. GA status article Delhi has a better quality collage but at the same time GA Mumbai has a group of images. You start a discussion in the Talk:Uttarakhand mentioning the low quality of the images in the collage. Atleast I'll vote for a change. I always thought it can be improved. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:35, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, I already had a small discussion with an editor regarding the low quality images. I think on most articles, a group of images is the norm. So it would be better to shoot for that. The issue here is which images? I would be glad to add commons images according to my discretion but that wouldn't be a fair way of doing things. Which is why I wanted image suggestions and input. Either ways the current image needs to be replaced, could you guide me along the consensus process for infobox images? Prolix 💬 14:55, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: Make a proposal of a group of images in the talk page. If anybody objects, then we can have a discussion. Would be better if you find images of locations already present in the collage (less people to go against your proposal). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:00, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, that's fair, I'll make a sample infobox collage and put it up on there. Not sure if I'll be able to find all the images in the current collage but I'll try. Do I have to message frequent editors of the page to let them know of the discussion? Prolix 💬 15:05, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: IMO you should ping those frequent editors, better for a strong onsensus. You don't have to find all images, some specifics like temples, famous locales, etc that are present in the current collage. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, luckily all the images in the collage were linked, I may have to replace one or two because of low quality. I'll be sure to message the editors, you'll be first! Prolix 💬 15:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: Nice . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Requesting your input on Uttarakhand's talk page

Hi Fylindfotberserk, since you have made edits on Uttarakhand before, I am sending you this message to alert you of a discussion on its talk page regarding the replacement of images in the infobox. Your input in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Prolix 💬 17:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for your hard work!

Why not have a kitten as well, who knows, maybe it can help you out... :)

JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 17:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: Nice kitten exchange.. Thanks man. I wanted to become a palaeontologist since III standard, because of books and encyclopedias I had at my disposal. JP series came much later. It sucks that I'd to do engineering. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:14, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Heh, the way you say it makes me laugh a bit... :P But yeah, I also had the same dreams as you when I was a little younger (to be honest, I'm still under eighteen...), but most of my attention shifted to sports and other stuff, but even if, paleontology and extinct animals still fascinates me in every way! JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 17:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: Yeah... that fascination... I'm out of the league now, but to stay in touch with my inner dino-loving child, I do little bit of editing in these articles. Perhaps if I reduce my watchlist, I'd have time to properly contribute. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you can still dream about it, heh, just kidding. But something that does suck about memorizing or knowing all kinds of paleo/dino-related things is that many people will think that you're a nerd or something, and man, I gotta admit that has happened lots of times to me. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 17:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: As a kid I used to boast being able to recite names of 60-70 dinos not stop. And my friends would go wow! But in teenage years friends were like grow up man! Lets go meet some girls lol . In college, I was still very much into it and my best friends actually respective this hobby. Internet is not a good thing, not in every way. I used to remember things about dinos, automobiles, etc. but now... it is like..lets check Wikipedia. We as a people are not reading books enough. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:07, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hm, you're a good person to have a talk with... But yeah, technology these days, kids spending hours playing videogames and who knows what other stuff they're doing in the internet. It seems like it's always a pattern; when we're younger, we just go on and do what we really like, but as we grow, who knows what we're into, meet girls, haha! But yeah, it's most certainly and obviously true, and it's the same here... :) JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 18:23, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: Kids with smart phones and their hunched up backs ... As we grow up we are dragged into the system, we act like robots and be a servant of The Man. As kids we are more ... real. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Everything you said is truly true... I guess kids from the past are better than the ones nowadays, influence of the internet I suppose... JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 19:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: Social media is tempting... but they should know when to draw the line. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

That's right again! Oh, and about the dino stuff before, maybe we can collaborate together? Of course, I'll understand if you don't have time, I'm also lacking time myself, that's why I mostly do light edits. Oh, and thanks for all the thanks, or should I say... You are welcome! JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 20:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@JurassicClassic767: Yup... Thanks and welcome . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 05:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank goodness to your ever expanding watchlist. Chaipau (talk) 01:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Chaipau: That's my posion.... -Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:51, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Protection

I've taken the liberty of semi protecting your talk page due to persistent sock-puppetry. I'm happy to lift it if you'd prefer. Just let me know. Thanks. Glen (talk) 13:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Glen: Totally awesome. Most comments on my talk page are posted by experienced users. As for communicating with new users and IPs, I do it in there talk page. So it is fine. Thanks a bunch. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, yes I did note that so didn't think it would be an issue. I've done it for a week but can extend just let me know. I've also indefinitely blocked our "friend". Anything you need just reach out. Glen (talk) 14:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Glen: Looks like this one needs a range block too. As for that that talk page, I archived it manually after the automatic archiver failed due to blacklisted links. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi

GOOD MORNING; congrats for badge update, thanks for edit on Koeri and i m sorry for u to see that you are also facing disturbing elements on ur talk page.Heba Aisha (talk) 01:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Good morning Heba Aisha. That seems like a caste mongering Kayastha person who for some reason harbors inferiority complex against Brahmins. Neil Nitin Mukesh's father in an interview with Karan Thapar explained his ancestry which funnily is not in the order which this caste mongerer wanted, ie Mr. Nitin Mukesh mentions his mothers cast which is a "Brahmin Shrimali Guajarati" first, then mentions his fathers caste "Mathur Kayastha" [2]. Now I do not add castecruft in BLP articles for obvious reasons like self-identification which makes it tedious to find relevant sources. And that video source was added by someone else in 2018. As per Wikipedia rules of self-identification I was maintaining the order in which the the castes are mentioned in the video source. Furious with his fragile patriarchal ego, he tried to change the order and outright remove Gujarati in the past (you can check the history in 2018, 2019 as well as the Talk:Neil Nitin Mukesh) under various sockpuppets. These caste warriors think they have a bigger say on the personal lives of notable peoples than the latter themselves. Amitabh Bachchan and his renowned father have denounced caste themselves, but these goons need to add it again and again. Same is the case with Jats, Rajputs, Bhumihars. Articles related to these castes have become so much of a problem that Wikipedia had to take special measures. Now Kayasthas have started it and promptly got the main article ec-protected. Typical logic by these goons, if you edit something not in accordance with their preferences, you are a hater and belong to another caste (also based on your edit), I've been called a racist Jat for maintaining sourced caste info in some Jat Sikh articles, A Paksitani for following WP:COMMONNAME in Allahabad, Faizabad, and otehr similar articles and also an "anti-Pakistani Indian" by Pakistani POV pushers; Ironically an anti-Jat Sikh also and a Modi's Hindu zealot for removing Gurdas Maan's unsourced birth place [3]. Also note the ridiculous ref names [4]. I've been called a British for that Allahabad thing, An Ahom as well as an Assamese Kalita dog for reverting changes made by a Boro ethnic warring sock farm, A Chitpavan and ironically a Deshastha, also someone against Saraswat Brahmins. I was also implied to be anti-Russian and an anti-Santal as well. Following the current situation of that Kayastha calling be a Brahmin POV editor, it is ironic that I've been implied to being an Anti-Brahmin in the past for not adding Sunil Dutt and Yogeshwar Dutt's caste. Also called a Tarkhan few days back, you can see at the top. I take these lightly as jingoist rants by people with fragile egos. But I am ashamed that these only bolsters the primitive caste-warring image of South Asians in Wikipedia. I wonder someday someone will call me a Koeri/anti-Koeri . Ironically most of my edits are film, settlement, politics and paleontology related not castes. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Also see this, according to the user me and others are radical Muslims (sudapi a slang for that as well as followers of Social Democratic Party of India who are mostly Muslims). Funny LOL! - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Do you know .....the person who created multiple accounts to disturb me was also Kayastha as he misunderstood the quotes added by Sitush to be added by me.From that incident i m refraining from caste articles in major edits only doing minor edits while contributing more to governance related articles.And don't care about them, i even found a sockpuppetry investigation against Sitush on google which was related to similar reasons.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Heba Aisha Please do continue with your edits on caste articles. Don't get disheartened by dumbassery of some people who are best suited to their caste mongering gangs in Middle-of-nowhere, India. No wonder they get banned. This guy is probably Nikhil Srivastava. He has a habit of making sock accounts that sound similar to the user names he has problems with Dog Valour for Doug Weller, Ek Dallian for EkDalian, Dinpoce for Dinopce, Shitooz and Shitush for Sitush. And those obvious doppelgangers accounts based on your user name. Look at his case page here. He probably saw me in your talk page, and started attacking me for the Neil Nitin Mukesh caste format. These idiots get so far with their caste mongering that they like to bring down their own country just to spite someone. His own words "People in India defecate on the streets. Over 80% of India is a destroyed open sewer where people don't have running water and sanitation. Your "Aryan Brahmins" defecate in the open too." also called me a "pajeet" a slur for smelly hairy curry eating Indians. This is the type of nationalism this so-called Kayastha seem to harbour and at the same time he considers Netaji as his idol. How ironic. Kayasthas died for this country and so did every caste. These are just fake poser. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

- Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Totally agreed with you.That was first time so i afraid.But now i got it that its common....Btw i m now contributing on commons also with the images related to caste and other stuffs.Thanks for supporting.Heba Aisha (talk) 15:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Heba Aisha: Check this out. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:14, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Zzuuzz: and Fylindfotberserk we have an experience with that user in past.Yes all those accounts are of same person.Heba Aisha (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

draft:Prit Kamani

Hello sir! Please make a draft submission of draft:Prit Kamani. Wpedia User (talk) 13:33, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Wpedia User: Somebody added a template to your draft. Click the submit botton in the template to get it to the AfC. I'm not a new page reviewer by the way.- Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Wpedia User (talk) 16:44, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Users with indefinitely protected user talk pages". Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Requesting your help

Hi Fylindfotberserk, there's a discussion on the Padma Vibhushan talk page regarding who is responsible for awarding the honour. I'm not entirely sure of my knowledge in this field so I hope you can help me out here. Prolix 💬 19:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Fylindfotberserk I have left new messages in Padma Vibhushan talk page please see it Ktdk (talk) 05:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

script edit

In University of Calicut, you removed "https://" from within {{url}}. I believe that is incorrect, only "http://" is unnecessary. MB 15:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@MB: I was using a script. "http//" doesn't seem necessary. You can use the syntax {{URL|xyz.com}} as per Template:URL. I've fixed the incorrect URL [5] though. It is "uoc". It is opening fine. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

If the script automatically removes "https://", {{url}} will add "http://" when creating the actual URL which is not the same. https is far more secure and should be used if available. This is my point. I am not exactly clear what the scrip does.

If the script removes "http://", {{url}} will add "http://" back and there is effectively no change so this change is just cosmetic. MB 16:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@MB: The script removes the HTTP. That part is cosmetic, but other changes done by that script is quite important. I've added "https://". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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Meitei

Luwanglinux (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Hello, I am glad you take interest in my edits at article Meitei but you seem to be biased on something I provide facts and links...do not try to vandalise an article just because you can. Meitei do have close progeny link with Lai,Tai,Pong it can be found from historical facts..and there is indeed meitei people at USA,Korea,Nepal. they even have organisation like NAMA..

@Luwanglinux: Thanks for communicating. We do not put historical descent in the lead section, which is best served in the History section. See any FA, GA status articles. As for the presence of Meitei in some countries, add content with proper sources and numbers. The lead and the infobox as of now is properly sourced without any bias. And DO NOT put terms like "Mongoloid" in the lead. It is disruptive. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:41, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Luwanglinux (talk) 11:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Well we need to find true history first.. Meitei is just a term and we fall under mongoloid category first before any classification.Meitei once represented a nation even the thing you mention Tibeto Burman fall under Mongoloid...I am stating physical facts here.. and please do search our link with lai tai pong tq

@Luwanglinux:'Mongoloid', 'Caucasoid', 'Negroid' like terms are not added in ethnic articles. Try doing that in Han people article and see. This is the rule here. Also the lead section should not write descent, etc. Not to mention you are adding unsourced stuff as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk please stop adding tibeto burmese meitei are not burmese and meitei language family is of Sino Tibetan do some research please you may be administrator but don't misuse power — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luwanglinux (talk • contribs) 12:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Do some research first. Go to the Tibeto-Burman languages article which includes Meitei. Your aversion to teh use of this term and repeated addition of Mongoloid and now East Asian, (Manipur is not in East Asia), shows your POV. And it looks like you try to WP:OWN the article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Luwanglinux (talk) 13:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC) Ah you need some research in Meitei too. we are talking about a ethnic group not a state or language.I am stating fact we are east asian ethnic. Also know this for certain Meitei is not a wanabe group who fabicate history..I think you have some aggenda behind your tibeto burmese...I wanted to state about meitei physical facts and origin.Are u a meitei? do you know better than a meitei about meitei peace dude wikipedia is a source of knowledge..

@Luwanglinux: I don't have any agenda behind, and you should learn how Wikipedia works. Meitei are not East Asian. They live in India which is in South Asia. We do not add obsolete racial terms like "Mongoloid" in ethnic articles which seems to be the "physical facts" you are trying to imply. Adding race in article leads, which you are doing shows some kind of propaganda.

I'm reiterating again, Tibeto-Burman languages is a linguistic grouping in which teh Meitei language falls. We can have a middle ground, that is we write it as The Meitei people (also known as Manipuri) are an ethnic group indigenous to the state of Manipur in northeastern India who speak the Meitei language. similar to the Greek people article which is of GA high quality status. That way we do not have to write either "Tibeto-Burman" or the incorrect geographical identifier "East Asian". Pinging @Chaipau and Austronesier: would you weigh in. -Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: We don't racially classify ethnic groups here in Wikipedia. Races are pseudo-science, and promoting racialism is basically a political agenda, which has no place in an encyclopedia. On the oher hand, language classification is mainstream science, and the classification of Meitei as a Tibeto-Burman language is uncontroversial. For this reason, the Meitei people can be characterized as a "Tibeto-Burman" or better: "Tibeto-Burman-speaking" ethnic group in the opening statement of the article. –Austronesier (talk) 13:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: agree with Austronesier and Fylindfotberserk. Please do not use racial types in Wikipedia. The linguistic classification does not connote race or even ethnicity per se. Chaipau (talk) 14:59, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux:Stop adding "East Asian" as a racial identifier as you did here again!. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

oh visit article like Korean people, American people Tamil people see if you can remove those identifier. why do you guys think north east people know nothing..what is so wrong with adding an identifier in an ethnic article...?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luwanglinux (talk • contribs) 15:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Manipur is a state of India, a country in South Asia. Feel free to add South Asian. –Austronesier (talk) 15:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: What's with Korean people and Tamil people? Koreans live in East Asia and Tamils speak a Dravidian language. Where is the racial identifier? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Luwanglinux (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC) Luwanglinux (talk) 15:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)why did you delete the history I wrote about Meitei origin do you want to say the origin of Meitei is not certain? I have proof for that thing I written it is even verified by national archive delhi @Fylindfotberserk you are really misusing power.write whatever you want about meitei I am ready to expose all facts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luwanglinux (talk • contribs) 15:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Check the page history please. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Luwanglinux. –Austronesier (talk) 07:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: Nice. I notified Primefac about this though. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:42, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Owh, I should have stalked you first before taking action LOL. –Austronesier (talk) 07:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: You did the right thing. I was thinking of filing an SPI, but notified Primefac instead, thinking he might protect that article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, PP-sock will also be necessary, I agree. –Austronesier (talk) 08:31, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

User:Sunny Lambardar

Is this a sock of User:Punjabier? Also User:Waheguru Child.--RegentsPark (comment) 15:40, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: Seems like it. Sursena is the supposed region of origin of the Saini people [6], [7], so obviously this sockfarm is interested in it. Other confirmed socks have also edited the article in the past as we can see. Right decision blocking them. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:54, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Will keep an eye out. (What a mess!) --RegentsPark (comment) 16:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: Yeah.. One of those persistent LTAs. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:07, 30 September 2020 (UTC)