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August 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

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August 2019—Issue 005

Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Letter-winged kite by Casliber Megabat by Enwebb Rock parrot by Casliber Adelophthalmidae by Super Dromaeosaurus Giant golden-crowned flying fox by Enwebb, reviewed by Starsandwhales Myxomatosis by Rabbit Vet, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Tylopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Starsandwhales and Enwebb Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Slender glass lizard by SL93, reviewed by Casliber Guano by Enwebb, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Dvulikiaspis by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Casliber Rock parrot by Casliber, reviewed by The Rambling Man Leptospirosis by Cerevisae, reviewed by Ajpolino Hepatitis E by Ozzie10aaaa, reviewed by Casliber Cardabiodon by Macrophyseter, reviewed by FunkMonk Clostridium tetani by Ajpolino, reviewed by Chiswick Chap

Newly nominated content
Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk Western yellow robin by Casliber Pekarangan by Dhio270599 Hibbertopterus by Ichthyovenator

What's the relevance of WikiJournals to WP:TOL?

WikiJournal of Science is an open-access, peer-reviewed journal

One publishing pipeline for WikiJSci

Guest column by Thomas Shafee (Evolution and evolvability), Editor in Chief of WikiJournal of Science

The Tree of Life WikiProject and its sprawling phylogeny of daughter projects is one of the largest and most active communities in Wikipedia. It encompasses approximately 570 Featured Articles and well over a thousand Good Articles (second only to military history). The WikiJournal of Science (one of three current journals in the user group) has a few aims that may closely align with the interests of the ToL community.

Review of existing articles

Firstly, WikiJSci can be a complementary system for FA review (getting external review, input, and validity). When an Wikipedia article is nominated (via WP:JAN), journal editors go out to non-Wikipedian academics and researchers who have published on the subject on the last five years and invite them to give feedback comments (e.g. Peripatric speciation and Baryonyx). The resulting changes can then be integrated back into the Wikipedia article.

Attracting new articles and contributors

Getting more editors involved in Wikipedia is always a high priority. WikiJSci can also be a way to encourage new people to contribute articles (especially on missing/stub/start topics). An example of an article that was written from scratch by a group of non-Wikipedians is Teladorsagia circumcincta. This not only resulted in a new Wikipedia page on an underdeveloped topic, but introduced the idea of Wikimedia contribution to a group of people who had previously never considered it.

Images, videos, sound and galleries

The journal can be a way to get multimedia content reviewed or encourage contribution. The same approach could be easily adapted to sounds (e.g. frog mating calls) or videos (e.g. starfish feet motion). It also allows for tracking of those images in new articles via Altmetric (this example has >200, which is bananas). There aren't any biology examples in WikiJSci yet, but the sister medical journal has published a few summary diagrams, photography, and image galleries. Examples include this gallery by Blausen Medical or the diagram of cell disassembly during apoptosis.

Other projects

For those interested in other Wikimedia sister projects, there's also broad scope for interactions with the WikiJournals. Perhaps peer reviewed teaching resources could be useful to sit alongside sets of Wikipedia articles and be integrated into Wikiversity courses (like this or this)? Can sections of Wikidata & Wikispecies be peer reviewed? What are the potential avenues for integration with WikiCite, WikiFactMine, Scholia, etc.? Currently, WikiJSci is aiming to be very flexible and try out different formats so long as they can be externally peer reviewed.

For more info, see the 2019-06-30 Signpost article and the current sister project proposal.

Editor spotlight: Cwmhiraeth

1) Enwebb: You're very prolific with DYKs, with over 2,000 nominations credited (in fact, I'll highlight which DYK nominations this month were yours below). What made you become so involved in this part of Wikipedia? Why should Tree of Life editors nominate articles for DYK?

Cwmhiraeth: I became aware of the WikiCup in 2012 and entered the contest. The scoring structure seemed to me to favour DYKs, and I went to considerable trouble to identify short stubs that could be expanded into qualifying start class articles with multiple bonus points. Casliber introduced me to preparing articles for FAC and Sasata helped me with my first solo FA. I won the WikiCup that year, and repeated that success the following year, after which the Cup got a bit more competitive. By that time, nominating articles for DYK was an ingrained habit, and I have continued doing so ever since, but at a rather slower rate. I do more work behind the scenes at DYK now, reviewing other people's nominations in excess of my QPQ requirement, and building prep sets ready to go on the main page, and I retired from competing in the WikiCup and became a judge instead. I would encourage ToL editors to nominate suitable articles for DYK because it gives great satisfaction to know that hundreds or even thousands of people have appreciated your work, and it provides a foil for the biographies and historical articles that predominate there.

2) Enwebb: I noticed that your DYK nominations reflect a diverse array of flora and fauna, from trees, marine invertebrates, birds, fishes, and mammals. How do you decide what to work on?

Cwmhiraeth: As I look around different articles I keep a note of things I might work on, red links, stub articles that need expanding or places in articles where I would like to add a wikilink but no suitable target page exists. So I have this list, but more often than not I choose a new article to work on based on a Google book that I have been using in a previous article. I like Google books; some of them are really useful for species articles, the main annoyance being when certain pages are permanently unavailable, although I am quite good at tricking the books into revealing pages that they were trying to prevent me from viewing. Eventually I get bored with African rodents, or whatever my present topic is, and move on. I am particularly interested in organisms living in extreme habitats, endangered species, invasive species, pest species, parasites or creatures with interesting behavioural traits.

3) Enwebb: Which of your Wikipedia accomplishments are you most proud of?

Cwmhiraeth: Well, Sea really. Again that was inspired by the WikiCup, and working in collaboration with Chiswick Chap, we took it from virtually nothing, little more than a list of seas, through DYK and GA, culminating in a really tough FA. That was very satisfying (as were the 1000 odd points it gained me at the WikiCup). In complete contrast was the article Tree. I completely rewrote it in a sandbox as an entry for the "Core contest". The previous version had been quite short with a section on "Record breaking trees" which I hived off into a separate article. My new version was immediately challenged and an edit war would have erupted had I not decided to retire from the fray. My version had some serious flaws, I had never studied botany and I had used a book source which misled me. However, after corrections, my version largely remained in place and I later joined Chiswick Chap in bringing the article to GA status.

4) Enwebb: What motivates you to keep contributing? What's your 10,000 ft view (pardon the non-SI) of the community and Tree of Life?

Cwmhiraeth: I think Wikipedia is a really great project. The idea of Wikipedia as a pool of knowledge contributed to by thousands of individuals in hundreds of countries is inspiring. It would be nice if we had no vandalism and everyone co-operated with everyone else in an amicable spirit, but as we are all human, it does not quite work out like that. I like to think of my efforts as a legacy that will continue in existence after I am gone.

6) Enwebb: How did you first become interested in natural history?

Cwmhiraeth: When I was young I had an elderly aunt who used to come to stay and who would take me for walks in the countryside, during which we would watch birds and identify wild flowers. She would take me out at weekends from my girls-only boarding school and we would search for orchids on the Wiltshire Downs. My school was not geared up for science, we just did general science for O-levels, and when it came to A-levels, I was the only pupil in my year to do zoology and chemistry, and one of only two to do physics, for which we had to cycle off to the grammar school on the other side of town. I wanted to be a vet, but was discouraged by my father, obtained a BSc in biochemistry and ended up in an unrelated job. If I were to live my life again, things might work out differently, but then I dare say we could all say that!

August DYKs

Weebill

Nanhaipotamon macau

P. lutzii (yeast phase)

Cannonball mangrove

Ruspolia nitidula male

Female kob and calf

... that falguera, a plant known from only one valley in Spain, is threatened by rock climbers and by road maintenance? (1 August)
... that Dioscorea chouardii is known from a single crag in the Pyrenees and has been monitored using scaffolding and telescopes? (3 August)
... that the tree Humbertia madagascariensis, whose durable timber is used in heavy construction, is a member of the morning glory family? (4 August)
... that the new pine knot-horn is a serious pest of maritime pine plantations? (5 August)
... that William Pope created "the first comprehensive, well executed pictorial record of Canadian birds"? (7 August)
... that fronds of the seaweed Halimeda tuna each consist of a single cell? (8 August)
... that Elongatoolithus, Macroolithus, and Nanhsiungoolithus were the first types of fossil eggs to be given names in the modern classification system? (9 August)
... that the maple Acer beckianum was described from a piece of petrified wood found near Vantage, Washington, in 1954? (10 August)
... that the queen parrotfish feeds on the algae it scrapes from corals and other surfaces, resulting in bioerosion? (11 August)
... that the weebill (pictured), measuring 8 to 9 cm (3.1 to 3.5 in) long, is Australia's smallest bird? (12 August)
... that sheep infected with the parasitic nematode Teladorsagia circumcincta may suffer from protein deficiency? (12 August)
... that the Sahel bush sparrow, found in the Oti Valley Faunal Reserve, is one of 676 species of bird recorded in Togo? (13 August)
... that the Ethiopian white-footed mouse and the Ethiopian forest brush-furred rat are two of the most abundant rodents in the montane forests of Ethiopia? (13 August)
... that Dardanus deformis is one of at least 24 species of hermit crab that transfer sea anemones to a new shell? (14 August)
... that the ornate rainbowfish can survive in water as acidic as orange juice? (14 August)
... that the African giant shrew was first described from a mummified specimen found in an ancient Egyptian tomb? (15 August)
... that the brown-cheeked hornbill is among the eleven species of hornbill native to Ivory Coast? (15 August)
... that among the many uses of Erythrophleum ivorense and Lannea welwitschii, trees growing in Assagny National Park, are rope-making, canoe-building and to poison fish? (16 August)
... that the densely-populated territory of Macau is home to a recently discovered, endemic species of freshwater crab of the genus Nanhaipotamon (pictured)? (17 August)
... that the crimson seedcracker has two morphs, large-billed and small-billed, but this trait is not related to sex, age, body size, or location? (18 August)
... that the large leaves of Marantochloa purpurea are used for wrapping cola nuts to prevent them from becoming desiccated? (18 August)
... that the sea anemone Anemonia sulcata is known as ortiguilla in southern Spain, where it is a popular seafood? (19 August)
... that the Sorana bean is grown in such small quantities and is in such demand that it commands prices six to ten times higher than those of other cannellini beans? (19 August)
... that antelope grass can recover quickly after wildfires even in the middle of the dry season? (19 August)
... that the Namib brush-tailed gerbil uses ultrasonic whistles and foot drumming to communicate? (20 August)
... that deforestation in Brazil could be linked to higher rates of the severe fungal infection caused by P. lutzii (pictured), a neglected tropical disease?
... that in Cameroon, edible caterpillars are cultivated on dwarf red ironwood leaves? (20 August)
... that the lesser seedcracker enjoys rice and the large, hard seeds of carrycillo? (21 August)
... that despite their names, the greater Egyptian gerbil and the lesser Egyptian gerbil are found across much of North Africa? (21 August)
... that it is not known whether larvae of Deretaphrus beetles spin their cocoons from their mouths or anal glands? (22 August)
... that the toxic bark of a Madagascan tree species has been used as a poison in trials by ordeal? (23 August)
... that the cannonball (pictured) and white-flowered black mangroves are among the ten species of mangrove listed as occurring in Mozambique? (24 August)
... that strips of bark from the West African copal are used to make beehives, while the flowers are attractive to bees? (24 August)
... that the swamp musk shrew scrambles around among aquatic vegetation in the dark? (25 August)
... that the rock parrot often nests in the old burrows of seabirds? (26 August)
... that the bush cricket Ruspolia nitidula (pictured) is commonly eaten in Uganda, where the price per unit weight is periodically higher than that of beef? (26 August)
... that despite its reported disappearance from Britain and other European countries, the fountain spleenwort is still considered to have a stable population trend? (27 August)
... that the African hut tampan can transmit relapsing fever in humans and African swine fever in pigs? (28 August)
... that in 1946, entomologists E. B. Pinniger and Cynthia Longfield were the first to identify the dainty damselfly in Britain? (28 August)
... that the Argus tortoise beetle is named after the mythical Greek giant Argus Panoptes? (28 August)
... that Pollichia campestris was first described in 1789 by the Scottish botanist William Aiton in the publication Hortus Kewensis, a catalogue of all the plants then being cultivated at Kew Gardens? (30 August)
... that the wildlife of Uganda includes the Ugandan kob (pictured), the Uganda mangabey, and the Ugandan musk shrew? (30 August)
... that the blue korhaan favours habitats with short grass, dwarf shrubs, and termite mounds, but few trees? (31 August)
... that forests in the Guineo-Congolian region of Africa include patches dominated by a single species of tree, such as Brachystegia laurentii, Julbernardia seretii, Michelsonia microphylla, or Gilbertiodendron dewevrei? (31 August)
Highlighted DYKs were submitted by this month's spotlighted editor, Cwmhiraeth

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September 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

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September 2019—Issue 006

Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk Onychopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus Western yellow robin by Casliber Western yellow robin by Casliber, reviewed by Josh Milburn Apororhynchus by Mattximus, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Pekarangan by Dhio-270599, reviewed by Cerebellum Fritillaria by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Embioptera by Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by Vanamonde93 Durio graveolens by NessieVL, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77 Big brown bat by Enwebb and Gen. Quon, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77 King brown snake by Casliber, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77 Staffordshire Bull Terrier by Atsme, reviewed by FunkMonk Ambush predator by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Enwebb Belemnitida by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Chiswick Chap

Newly nominated content
Apororhynchus by Mattximus Meinhard Michael Moser by J Milburn St. Croix macaw by FunkMonk Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77 Orcinus meyeri by Dunkleosteus77 Snakefly by Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth Tricolored bat by Enwebb Halloween darter by Enwebb

News at a Glance

An end in sight for the WikiCup

The 2019 WikiCup is in its fifth and final round, with two of the eight remaining contestants from the ToL community. The 2016 winner Casliber is in first place as of 1 October, and Enwebbb is in seventh place.

Getting spooky for Halloween

It's the most wonderful time of the year...Halloween, that is. With articles on skeleton frogs, ghost bats, and Satanic nightjars, Wikipedia has more spooky taxa than a graveyard has ghosts. In the new Spooky Species Contest, Tree of Life editors are turning Wikipedia into Spookypedia, working from a crowd-sourced list of taxa. There's still time to sign up! How can you let an article like Draculoides bramstokeri pass you by?

The never-ending article title

September saw the creation of (takes deep inhalation) Cneoridium dumosum (Nuttall) Hooker F. Collected March 26, 1960, at an Elevation of about 1450 Meters on Cerro Quemazón, 15 Miles South of Bahía de Los Angeles, Baja California, México, Apparently for a Southeastward Range Extension of Some 140 Miles. Just two characters shy of Wikipedia's limit on article title length, Cneoridium dumosum...140 Miles now has the longest article title of any on English Wikipedia. In contrast to its verbose title, the journal article that is the subject of the article is only five words long.

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This month saw a vanishingly rare occurrence for the Tree of Life: a new WikiProject joined the fold. WikiProject Diptera, however, is also unusual in being a classroom project. Whether or not this project will stay active once the semester ends remains to be seen. It does not bode well, however, that WP:WikiProject Vespidae—a creation from the same instructor at St. Louis University—faded to obscurity shortly after the fall semester concluded in 2014. WikiProject Vespidae is defunct and now redirects to the Hymenoptera task force of WikiProject Insects.

Since 2014, the Tree of Life has seen a string of years where one or zero projects or task forces were created. The only projects and task forces created since then are WikiProject Animal anatomy (2014), Hymenoptera task force (2016), Bats task force (2017), WikiProject Hypericaceae (2018), and now WikiProject Diptera (2019). The year 2006 saw the greatest creation of WikiProjects and task forces, with fourteen still active and the remaining six as "semiactive", "inactive", or "defunct".

September DYKs

Enischnomyia fossil in Dominican amber

Lebombo wattle in the sand forest

Betula leopoldae leaf fossil

Pholiota squarrosoides

Lady Burton's rope squirrel

A child picks chili peppers in an Indonesian home garden.

... that the Natal cycad and the dune false currant are among the 1,900 endemic plant species found in the Maputaland-Pondoland-Albany Hotspot? (1 September)
... that the Ethiopian epauletted fruit bat uses its hind feet to comb its fur and its tongue to wash its face, wing membranes, and genital region? (3 September)
... that the scaly ground roller mostly eats earthworms and centipedes, but has been known to also eat frogs, lizards, and shrews? (4 September)
... that Kihaule's mouse shrew is named after the medical-entomological technician who collected the type specimen from the Udzungwa Mountains in Tanzania? (5 September)
... that the bat fly Enischnomyia (pictured) was first described from a specimen fossilized with Vetufebrus malaria in its gut? (5 September)
... that Duthie's golden mole and the long-tailed forest shrew are among the wildlife of South Africa that are both endemic and "vulnerable"? (7 September)
... that the Lebombo wattle (pictured), the water ironplum, and the Zulu coshwood grow in the Southern African Sand Forest, where they are often swathed in pinhead orchids and other epiphytes? (8 September)
... that Zenker's fruit bat often forages in areas of forest where Haumania liebrechtsiana grows, a plant favoured by gorillas and chimpanzees? (8 September)
... that the hard seeds of the Guinea plum are dispersed by elephants, and crushed and eaten by Sanje mangabeys? (9 September)
... that the extinct birch Betula leopoldae (leaf fossil pictured) is named after conservationist Estella Leopold? (10 September)
... that the Namib day gecko can sprint at 2.5 m/s (8 ft/s) in bright light? (10 September)
... that there are believed to be fewer than 100 mature specimens of Dacrydium guillauminii, which is considered critically endangered? (11 September)
... that the parasite Enteromyxum scophthalmi causes a severe illness in farmed turbot for which no cure is known? (13 September)
... that the nymphs of the mayfly Ephemera simulans are able to burrow? (14 September)
... that the Asian garden dormouse can enter torpor, a state in which it may remain for several days? (14 September)
... that Alexander's bush squirrel is named after Lieutenant Boyd Alexander, a British Army officer, explorer, and ornithologist? (15 September)
... that the mushroom Pholiota squarrosoides (pictured) has decayed logs of the trees Acer saccharum and Tilia glabra in the Great Lakes region of the US? (15 September)
... that a dark form of the Angolan slender mongoose is found to the south of the Cunene River and a pale form to the north? (16 September)
... that clover grass used to grow in the Pacific Ocean, but has not been seen there since a severe storm in 1996? (16 September)
... that despite the Zulu serotine bat having a widespread distribution in Africa, it is not known where it roosts during the day? (17 September)
... that Lady Burton's rope squirrel (pictured) was named in honour of Isabel Burton, wife of British explorer Sir Richard Burton? (17 September)
... that there is a myth that the pieces of the broken tail of the slender glass lizard can grow into new lizards? (18 September)
... that Thomas's rope squirrel can communicate with other squirrels vocally or by stamping? (18 September)
... that the cut flesh of the bitter tooth mushroom smells of watermelon? (19 September)
... that although honeynut squash originated about forty years ago, it has only been in markets for four years? (19 September)
... that the phloem sap of Phyllanthus balgooyi contains up to 16.9 per cent nickel by weight, giving it a bright green color? (20 September)
... that although Schreber's yellow bat is believed to be an insectivore, the related white-bellied yellow bat has been observed to eat dead bats in captivity? (20 September)
... that nests of the black-tailed tree rat resemble those of the red-billed buffalo weaver? (21 September)
... that jackfruits and chili peppers (pictured) are among the many crops planted in Indonesian home gardens? (22 September)
... that the African tropical tree Pouteria adolfi-friedericii was named after a German explorer? (23 September)
... that the Celebes warty pig has been domesticated and introduced into other Indonesian islands? (23 September)
... that the metabolic rate of Rhoptropus bradfieldi is about a quarter of that of other desert lizards? (24 September)
... that the dune hairy-footed gerbil locates its burrows close to plants, where the roots stabilise the shifting sand? (28 September)

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I am impressed by the stubs such as Eucrada humeralis produced by your Qbugbot and am expanding a few of the articles. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob Webster (talk) 13:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

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October 2019—Issue 007

Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Meinhard Michael Moser‎ by J Milburn Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Casliber Clussexx Three D Grinchy Glee by Hunter Kahn, reviewed by Valereee Halloween darter by Enwebb and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn Deathwatch beetle by Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by Enwebb

Newly nominated content
King brown snake by Casliber Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77 Megarachne by Ichthyovenator List of canids by PresN Devils Hole pupfish by Enwebb Dryomyza anilis by AnuBalasubramanian Plasmodium knowlesi by Ajpolino Black coral by Aven13

News at a Glance

The first Spooky Species Contest wrapped up this week. Two articles were promoted to Good Article as a result (Halloween darter and Deathwatch beetle) and three Did You Know hooks on Halloween were related to the contest (Halloween darter, skeleton frog, and Coffin Cave mold beetle. Two new articles were created, including Longan witches broom-associated virus and Boophis popi, the skeleton frog species that appeared at DYK.
The 2020 Community Wishlist Survey is live (focusing on non-Wikipedia content projects), with two proposals so far for WikiSpecies. The Wikimedia Foundation will prioritize the top 5 proposals across all sister projects.
The 2019 WikiCup has finally concluded, with Casliber taking home the bronze. The bulk of their points this round came from two Featured Articles: rock parrot and western yellow robin.

Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More

By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured:

Did You Know (DYK)

What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article

How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines:

To be eligible, article is either new (newly created or moved to mainspace), a 5x expansion, or passed a GA review. Its creation, expansion, or promotion to GA must have been in the past 7 days.
Article must be long enough, with more than 1,500 characters of prose (this doesn't include embedded lists)
- I find Shubinator's DYKcheck script useful in determining whether an article is eligible for nomination.

The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page)

Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK.

Good Article (GA)

What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article—you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article!

Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you.

Featured Article (FA)

What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted.

Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC.

Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)

What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA.

How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT.

Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA.

October DYKs

Female apple maggot

... that the silk made by webspinners is produced from glands on their forelegs? (1 October)
... that falguera, a plant known from only one valley in Spain, is threatened by rock climbers and by road maintenance? (1 October)
... that the nudibranch Tritoniella belli is avoided by several predatory starfishes but is inefficiently preyed on by the sea anemone Isotealia antarctica? (5 October)
... that larvae of the drain fly can be found in trickling filter systems used to process sewage? (6 October)
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Hello! Thanks for noticing that Chapra (skipper) is not a valid taxon and ought to be redirected to Pelopidas (skipper). I saw however that you left a line stating "Chapra is a taxonomic synonym of Pelopidas." below the redirect in plain text. This is usually handled through templates, in this case {{R from alternative scientific name}}. Those templates have the additional benefit of immediately adding the redirect to the relevant redirect category. (The template does not state the exact taxon it is synonymous to, but it also doesn't quite need to, as that can fairly easily be inferred from the redirect target. In highly complex cases, it's sometimes useful to leave a hidden note explaining the choice of target, but for a fairly straightforward "redirect is synonym of exact target article", that's rarely needed) Again, thanks for your efforts. :) Cheers, AddWittyNameHere 18:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I'll try to do that properly in the future. I ran across that when I was looking at some Arthropod articles on invalid taxa. There are about 1000 articles on synonyms that probably need to be moved or redirected. Bob Webster (talk) 19:20, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome! Yeah, that's how most of those get fixed: someone happens to run across them. Honestly not surprised to hear so. If anything, I'm fairly sure that just on Lepidoptera alone, we probably have that number of invalid taxa lingering about, especially if including the stuff that needs movement rather than redirection. With 100k+ articles, some folks in the earlier days of the wiki working from outdated or otherwise not quite reliable sources, the wave of large-scale taxonomic revisions we've had so far this century, the lack of reliable central up-to-date database on Lepidoptera, and usually less than a dozen active editors in the subject area, it's no surprise, I guess. AddWittyNameHere 19:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

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The list you added in your April 12, 2018 edit contained 4 bogus members: Anthomyia, Anthomyza, Musca and Scatophaga. I removed the two that hadn't been already removed by others, and checked everything against the 4 linked web pages just to be safe. I'm guessing there was cross-contamination in your list from something else- no one would include Musca in the Scathophagidae on purpose. I noticed that the GBIF site has some extra genera, but I also noticed that they have a few homonyms in the list. I don't have time to sort any of that out, so I'm letting you know and going back to my usual haunts at Wiktionary. Thanks! Chuck Chuck Entz (talk) 02:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I'll correct the database and make sure there are no related problems. Bob Webster (talk) 07:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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I just put a comment on the talk page for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Beetles. It might be of interest to you; it has to do with an article, Habroscelimorpha dorsalis, that I think you--or a bot you run--created. It looks like there's not a lot of attention paid to that project page, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Uporządnicki (talk) 01:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm sure you're aware that your request for Speedy Deletion was rather speedily declined (you requested it on the criterion that you are the author; apparently the fact that you wrote the article doesn't apply--or something). So I'm wondering if a Merge of the two would be the next thing to try.Uporządnicki (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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Many articles, like Rhombodera handschini, have a reference to doi:10.20431/2454-941X.0204003, which is from a predatory journal. Could you update the bot/references to remove that source/not use it? It's used about 130 times. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Earlier this year I removed all the references in my database that contained "10.20431" or "International Journal of Research...". Please let me know if you run across any others. Bob Webster (talk) 21:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Will do. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

The articles still need to be update though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

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Arctia villica

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I saw your deletion tags on Arctia villica and some other Arctia species. I'm not an admin, so I can't delete them, but I had a suggestion. Could you please add to the article that you want to move to Arctia villica a reference for the renaming? On 11:28, March 27, 2012‎ Hectonichus (talk · contribs · count) (previously Ettore Balocchi) moved page Arctia villica to Epicallia villica with the comment "Correct new name". Perhaps Hectonichus was incorrect when they moved the article in 2012. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:01, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. The articles to be moved are shown in requests for deletion, in this case Epicallia villica There is also a link to this reference], which covers the genus Epicallia being a new synonym of Arctia.

You're exactly right, Epicallia villica was the correct name in 2012. Four years later in 2016, 33 genera, comprised of a whole bunch of species, were moved to 5 genera. This classification has been accepted by Moth Photographer's Group, Bugguide, iNaturalist, and most others. The taxonomy in these moths has been really mixed up in the past. Hopefully it will be more stable now that they're working with DNA. Bob Webster (talk) 21:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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hi do you have plan to creat species with bot Amirh123 (talk) 14:12, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

I have no plans at the moment. Bob Webster (talk) 14:17, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, because the taxonomy templates are set up so that Order Phthiraptera has Psocodea as the parent taxon, you can't just change the rank of Psocodea to order, because there are then two orders in succession. Presumably either Phthiraptera has to be lowered in rank, or bypassed by changing all the taxonomy templates that currently have it as parent. Either way, this needs discussion somewhere – not my field of interest/expertise. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I intended to handle that and completely forgot about it. Phthiraptera has been moved down in rank by most:

Psocodea => Troctomorpha => Nanopsocetae => Phthiraptera => (Amblycera, Anoplura, Ischnocera, Rhynchophthirina)

It probably is a good idea to bring it up for discussion, since it's a big change for a popular area (parasitic lice). I'll post something on TOL. Bob Webster (talk) 13:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, I noticed you've been creating some pages for leaf beetle genera lately. Just to warn you though, Category:Luperina isn't for the subtribe Luperina (of subfamily Galerucinae, tribe Luperini), but for an unrelated genus of moths that happens to have the same name (and no doubt causes some confusion). You probably need to put pages intended for Luperini: Luperina directly in Category:Galerucinae instead for the time being. Monster Iestyn (talk) 09:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even think about the category when I allowed for moth genus in the taxonomy templates. I'll correct it. Bob Webster (talk) 10:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi. Given how prolific and careful you are as an editor, I think there is a part of the ICZN Code you need to be aware of, specifically, Art. 31.2.2. It states "31.2.2. Where the author of a species-group name did not indicate whether he or she regarded it as a noun or as an adjective, and where it may be regarded as either and the evidence of usage is not decisive, it is to be treated as a noun in apposition to the name of its genus (the original spelling is to be retained, with gender ending unchanged (emphasis mine); see Article 34.2.1). Example. Species-group names ending in -fer and -ger may be either nouns in apposition, or adjectives in the masculine gender. Cephenemyia phobifer (Clark) has often been used as C. phobifera, but the original binomen was Oestrus phobifer; since Oestrus is masculine, phobifer in that binomen may be either a masculine adjective or a noun in apposition; hence it is to be treated as a noun in apposition and not changed when combined with the feminine generic name Cephenemyia." You changed the spelling of Novius pumila to "pumilus", but because "pumila" can be a noun for a female dwarf ([1]), Article 31.2.2 applies, and this name is treated as a noun by default, since the original author did not indicate that it was an adjective. There are a fair number of names that can be either adjectives or nouns - they make up about 5% across all of zoology - so it's important to know about this rule in the Code. It requires, unfortunately, a fair bit more homework when trying to assess gender agreement than most people are aware is necessary. Peace, Dyanega (talk) 16:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Just as an aside worth noting: in Greek, Latin, and English, the various words for "dwarf" can all be either nouns or adjectives (e.g., "dwarf rabbit" uses it as an adjective). The terms "nanus", "pumilus", and "pygmaeus" and their spelling variants all fall under Article 31.2.2. The inherent ambiguity in these terms has a long and deep history. Dyanega (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the information! Bob Webster (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm an ICZN Commissioner, public education is part of my mandate. Be that as it may, I am always ready and willing to consult if you have questions. The Code used to have an extensive appendix that dealt with a lot of these grammatical issues, but that's gone now, and it makes it harder for people to see good examples that demonstrate some of the more nuanced stuff. For example, this Article specifically mentions "-fer and -ger" but it could give a MUCH bigger list. Some very common suffixes such as "-arius", "-philus", "-phorus", and "-vorus" all fall into this category, and most people are unaware of this. Sometimes there is a parallel in English that people could use to be suspicious (e.g., "carnivore" or "bibliophile" do sometimes get used as adjectives in English, though "carnivorous" or "bibliophilic" might be more common). That Article can be tricky to navigate. Dyanega (talk) 17:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I do have a couple questions about Ocnodes. The genus Phanerotomea was synonymized with Ocnodes. Now, I assume as a result of this, several of the species in GBIF and Wikipedia have different genders. Are the ones in Wikipedia correct? Also, should Ocnodes scabricolle be Ocnodes scabricollis?

For example, Wikipedia:

Ocnodes argenteofasciatum

Ocnodes benguelense

GBIF:

Ocnodes argenteofasciatus

Ocnodes benguelensis

Thanks again! Bob Webster (talk) 17:58, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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Latridae and Cheilodactylidae

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Hi, I have reverted your edits to Gonistius, WP:Fishes follows the taxonomy in the 5th Edition of Fishes of the World for taxonomic levels above that of genus, this is to maintain stability. This is to discourage each editor choosing the taxonomy they like. This means that the situation of the Morwongs is a mess. The wording you changed reflected that the taxonomy of these families was not settled. All such articles should describe alternative taxonomies. Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:23, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

No problem, I didn't realize there was a standard in place. I was going by Fishbase and Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes. I'll leave the fish taxonomy alone, since it seems pretty well handled. Bob Webster (talk) 15:21, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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They are found in Australia

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In this edit you placed the sentence "They are found in Australia" after the introduction to a list thereby breaking the flow, and you placed it immediately before the ref that was previously there thereby misattributing the reference. Unfortunately you seem to be editing other articles in the same way and very rapidly - I fear without sufficient regard for the existing texts. Dorsetonian (talk) 18:40, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I am happy to stop. Bob Webster (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Not a request to stop, just an (unfortunately blunt now I read it back - sorry about that) observation that the repeated updates were not working for all the articles. Dorsetonian (talk) 10:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

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You could have just moved Dorcadion fuliginator to Iberodorcadion fuliginator yourself without needing an admin to get involved, since the page had only one revision and pointed to the target you were trying to move it over. You can't now, since the CSD tag made it have 2 revisions. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't know that, and I have several more of those to move. Bob Webster (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hi! I should have brought this up a long time ago when I first learned of this (sorry), but it turns out a few years ago Qbugbot edited the Chlamisus article to replace its species list with a link to List of Chlamisus species. The only trouble is, for some reason this list article was never created. As a result the Chlamisus article has been missing a list of species for nearly four years as of writing. Do you happen to know why your bot wasn't able to create the list article? Can you run the bot again to fix this? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I added the species list to the article rather than making a separate list article. Bob Webster (talk) 01:16, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Limoniinae/Limoniidae

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I don't know if you noticed yet, but the old "Limoniidae" redirect was deleted a few days ago, and I've since renamed the "Limoniinae" article back to "Limoniidae". So Limoniinae (which is now a redirect) can now be turned into a page for the subfamily of Limoniidae, if you were planning on doing that? Monster Iestyn (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I had forgotten about. I'll add a page for the subfamily. Bob Webster (talk) 03:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hi. Is there a source for this synonymy? It it evidently impossible, on the face of it, since Chondrorrhina was published in 1880, and Plaesiorrhina in 1842. That means that if the genera are synonymous, Plaesiorrhina is the valid name, and Chondrorrhina is a junior synonym. Are you certain that the synonymy is not with the name Plaesiorrhinella instead? Dyanega (talk) 19:50, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

You're right, that was my mistake. According to Catalogue of Life, Plaesiorrhina is a synonym of Chondrorrhina (Plaesiorrhinella). Thanks for pointing that out! Bob Webster (talk) 03:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hi. You may wonder why I reverted your edits to Deliathis - it's because all of the online resources are incorrect; you will note that there are very significant discrepancies between them. Between BioLib and Bezark, at least one of them has the correct spelling in each pair of spellings. The true list of species names is therefore a composite of these two online sources. This genus has been a mess for decades, and people simply can't get their ducks in a row. Dyanega (talk) 16:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

For example, the names "quadritaeniator" and "imperator" are both nouns. As I'm sure you know, nouns don't get changed as part of gender agreement. The people who erroneously changed these names to "quadritaeniata" and "imperatrix" aren't allowed to do that under the ICZN, those are errors, not allowable spellings. Bezark has them correct, other sources do not. Why the Bezark list has the genders of some of the other names as masculine, I can't say, but at least those are correctly given as feminine in BioLib. I've just sent a message to Larry Bezark, hopefully he can correct them. Dyanega (talk) 16:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

The only one that might be controversial is "buquetii" versus "buqueti" - the former is the original spelling, but under the ICZN the original spelling of patronyms with "-i" versus "-ii" is not automatically protected; if the alternative spellinng is used by more authors, then the original spelling is rejected. The history of usage of this name, as shown here indicates that "buqueti" is historically the most common spelling, and therefore to be preserved under ICZN Article 33.4. Dyanega (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the corrections and your help! Bob Webster (talk) 19:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

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So, I went and very much revised Nudariina but it occurs to me now that I should have ping'd you first to know which taxonomy you are following. I aligned with iNat, but now I realize that not all of what you are doing aligns.... UtherSRG (talk) 00:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

What to use for Nudariina is a hard question!

I've been using Catalogue of Life (mostly) for Miltochrista and related genera. I checked some recent changes and they match up pretty closely (I put a bunch of original references on the Miltochrista page).

For Lepidoptera, Catalogue of life gets their data from Global Lepidoptera Index, and GBIF gets their Lepidoptera data primarily from Catalogue of Life. Unfortunately, Global Lepidoptera Index doesn't have subtribes.

In the case of Nudariina, BioLib.cz might be the best source. They're usually pretty good with taxonomy in the Old World. It looks like they're reasonably up to date on Nudariina. I try to double check their stuff because once in a while it's a little weird. It seems like they have been improving, though.

iNaturalist is not a great source for taxonomy, because it's intentionally incomplete. They discourage people from adding species or genera that don't have observations, so they don't have to maintain the empty "nodes" for name changes, etc. Also, like Wikipedia, there's a certain amount of iNaturalist data that is out of date. I think iNaturalist is not considered a good reference for Wikipedia because of user contributions.

I think if you pick the taxonomy you think best and make sure it's in the references, it should be good. For a species or genus list, I try to show the reference(s) at the top of the list but anywhere will work.

If you have any questions, let me know. I don't know as much as a lot of people, but I'll be glad to offer an opinion.

Bob Webster (talk) 03:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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FYI: there is no "Spondylinae"

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Thought you might want to know, this is a historic and common misspelling based on poor Greek grammar. Most people correctly use "Spondylidinae" but the misspelling appears in a fair bit of older literature. The recent revision of family-group names in Coleoptera has the following entry: "Spondylis Fabricius, 1775: 159. Current status: valid genus in CERAMBYCIDAE: SPONDYLIDINAE: SPONDYLIDINI. Type species: Attelabus buprestoides Linnaeus, 1758, by subsequent designation (Latreille 1810: 431). Family-group name: SPONDYLII Audinet-Serville, 1832. Stem: Spondylid-." It's the stem that created the confusion, some people thought the stem was "Spondyl-". Dyanega (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for cleaning that up! I had trouble with that (obviously). I also appreciate you clearing up Nothorhinini and Tetropiini. Bob Webster (talk) 21:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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