User talk:Doc James/Archive 169

Trancelike vs dreamlike

I don't care. They're wrong. Anybody who knows what a trance is would never relate it back to an anesthetic effect. Trances are caused by drugs such as LSD not ketamine..

This is not how Wikipedia works. We go by sources not what our editors think is true. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Your sources are wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MountainTraveler (talk • contribs) 21:59, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Consensus numbering

Hi James! Regarding this change to current consensus ([1]), maybe numbering should be preserved? I'm thinking of edit summaries referencing consensus items by number. I'm not sure it matters too much after some time, just wondering. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 23:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

User:MarioGom yes good point. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:59, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Joining Wiki Project Med Foundation

Hello,

You may have posted to my talk page (User_talk:Tikmok#med) with the invitation to join Wiki Project Med Foundation. I submitted the application on-line but didn't get a reply either in the positive or negative. Do you know what happened? Thx. --Tikmok (talk) 07:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Probably people are busy with the pandemic. Will ask. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Got put on the mailing list. Thx. --Tikmok (talk) 02:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Chest CT for Diagnosing COVID-19

It's been close to a month since I made this point (here) - just before COVID reared it's ugly head where I work. I'm just now catching up with the article and edited the details about the use of CT imaging in the lead paragraph and 'Diagnosis' section (before & after). I am open to your feedback. Thank you. Moksha88 (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Moksha88 thanks. Made a few minor adjustments. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:59, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Great, I updated the relevant section in the COVID-19 testing article accordingly. Lead paragraph needs to be redone for sure, and I can work on that in the coming days. Moksha88 (talk) 03:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Questions regarding appropriateness of including RCT in Wikipedia articles

Hi Dr James, I am one of the editors of the WikiProject Dentistry page. I was just wondering whether it's okay to include the outcome of RCTs in the Wiki articles even though its quality is not considered as strong as the systematic reviews and meta-analysis.

This is because there are some techniques which are developed fairly recently and there are still not many systematic reviews on it (yet) however important observations and conclusions have been made from several different RCTs. Thank you in advance for your help and looking forward to hearing from you!

User:Staphylococcus9797 and it is not covered in any literature reviews or textbooks either? Might be best to wait to see if it is picked up. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:27, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations

I know you are interested in drug prices and availability (for some obscure reason), so I wanted to ask your views on the context and controversy surrounding changes to the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations policy. Some of the related sources have some interesting content on prices of vaccines, too:

• Kaddar, Miloud. "Global Vaccine Market Features and Trends" (PDF). World Health Organization.
• "The Right Shot: Bringing down barriers to affordable and adapted vaccines - 2nd Ed., 2015". Médecins Sans Frontières Access Campaign.

If you know of some more sources on CEPI's changes, I'd really appreciate them; they happened in December 2018, but seem not to have gotten much media attention until just now. If not, this is not urgent. Thanks! HLHJ (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

User:HLHJ excellent sources and important stuff. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I see you are already using https://msfaccess.org/sites/default/files/2018-09/CEPIoriginalPolicy_2017.pdf Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:49, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I more footnoted it than cited it. A source perhaps more interesting than useful:

• Kweifio-Okai, Carla (20 January 2015). "Help us crowdsource vaccine prices around the world". The Guardian.

The NYT piece was only published 5ish weeks ago, so there may be some more sources coming out on CEPI. HLHJ (talk) 00:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Vitamin B12 GA review

FYI: An editor has started the GA review of my nomination of Vitamin B12. Started with a list of 35 items, so working through those. I will send you a note after those are completed, and whether at the time there is another set of comments or heading toward completion. So far, I consider the nature of the requests as appropriate. I have addressed 20. David notMD (talk) 13:44, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	You gave me such a hard time over lips...but it became so much better.Thank you. W is a safer place with you Whispyhistory (talk) 21:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User:Whispyhistory. At that article you corrected a number of misunderstandings I had on the topic... much appreciated. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

You made me think. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Just to clarify..not your misunderstandings...but the errors in the sources. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Abolish ICE

Hi Doc. An editor has contacted me wrt to edit warring on the Abolish ICE article page. I have little interest in the topic area being from the U.K. Can you add the ArbCom discretionary sanctions banner warning to the talk page like the one that is on the Donald Trump talk page to bring some calm to that article? I think only admins can add the banner. Thanks.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 13:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Added by User:Barkeep49[2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

How are you doing,Doc?

I appreciate your effort and time, but I need your advice I am an experienced Pharmacologist. My family and I previously fell ill with Covid-19 virus. We took levamisole during the home quarantine and miraculously we were cured within 5 days. I feel sad that this drug has not been put under test to treat or prevent an outbreak. I thought wiki, sweetheart, is the best place to share my experience with the world, can it save someone’s life? Note : The 1984's Article that I have attached as a reference may be more promising and revised than many new papers on coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 are preliminary reports that have not been peer-reviewed.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6203228

Glad to know you and communicate with youAHMED MONTASER MOHAMED (talk) 13:48, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Most people recover regardless of what they do. This is why we would need RCTs. Lots of stuff being studied and looks promising. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Pneumonia edit

Just wanted to touch base to say thank you for tidying up my "tipped in" history. My intention was to improve historical context, not reduplicate every WP link. Sicklemoon (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Sicklemoon no worries you did well :-) I just made minor changes... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protection at Malaria?

Hi there, a recent edit request at Malaria made me realize it's indefinitely semi-protected. From the comments in the logs, it looks like there was consistent disruptive vandalism, and various levels of protection were tried 5 years ago. Now that it has been a while, would you mind removing the protection? I'd be surprised if it's a lightning rod for further vandalism, but I'll keep an eye on it, and if I'm wrong someone can always re-protect. Thanks for your time. I hope all is well. Ajpolino (talk) 05:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure User:Ajpolino unprotected but left the move protect. Let me know if that works for you. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

James, I don't speak this language, but can it just be switched to pending revisions if vandalism continues? That is working at ketogenic diet ... also, should you decide to try switching Tourette syndrome to pending revisions, I'm game. We will quickly find whether it works ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:02, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I fine "pending revisions" to be slow. I like the idea but just find the interface a little clunky. Hopefully it will be improved. If you wish Tourette syndrome switch to pending revisions happy to do so. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay have switched TS but left the move protect. Let me know if you want it switched back at any point in time. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:13, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Let's do it, just as an experiment. Why not try? The old Tourette's guy vandalism could have moved on. Or not. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure done. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:20, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response at malaria! Move protect sounds fine; can't imagine we'll need to move malaria any time soon. If vandalism becomes an issue I'll come crying here or WP:RFPP. Ajpolino (talk) 22:15, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Heads up

This lists the current deaths per 100,000 in NYC as 114 (which translates into 0.011% of people in NYC are already dead from this disease).

I believe you're off by one zero. 114/100,000 = .114/100. Just a heads up. Feel free to delete - Wikmoz (talk) 05:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User:Wikmoz Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

How to insert a reference

Thank you Doc James for reminding me to do this. However I am baffled by the system as to how to do references on Wikipedia, which is ridiculous because I have a Master's degree and do significant amounts of (academic level) research elsewhere. It's just the Wikipedia system that completely flummoxes me so I turn coward and run away. I would really like to learn how to input references. Do you know of a good place for me to go to, for a "Wikipedia references for Dummies"? I would really appreciate that. With thanks. Emma starling (talk) 10:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Emma starling, hi, (talk page watcher) here. You might try User:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners, I hope that helps! (References are the most daunting part of editing Wikipedia for me as well and there are some citation methods I still won't attempt, you're not alone.) Schazjmd (talk) 14:52, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

WP:MEDHOW also gives easy instructions. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks and question

Thanks for catching the wrong link for one of the citations I added. I was hoping you could provide more information as to why you don't trust ADAM? I get that NIH doesn't produce the information themselves and ADAM is company etc. but their editorial processes seems sound and, while I definitely wouldn't rely on them completely, their medlineplus content always seemed reliable.

Thanks!

User:Fireroastedbanana there are better sources. I have seem them contain a fair bit of incorrect stuff. Better to use review articles / major textbooks / position statements from major organizations / material produced by the NIH / CDC / WHO themselves. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia's response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Hello! You might be interested in review Wikipedia's response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic and share other other helpful sources on the talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:58, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User:Another Believer will do :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19 Epidemiology

Hi Doc James, I believe a new light is shed on the exact mechanisms behind the seasonal nature of influenza outbreaks: It's seen as a combination of meteorological variables (Temperature, UV light, humidity) with pollen season with its antiviral aerosol and immuno-activation properties, whereby seasonal social distancing behaviors play a certain role as well.

• Pollen season is observed to be the inverse of flu season: pollen aerosol has certain antiviral and virus binding characteristics, and also invokes immune responses (hay fever) that are jointly associated to reduced flu incidence. Pollen counts thresholds mark the start and end of flu season.

Hi Doc James, I just saw your edit on the COVID-19 pandemic page and just want to discuss this further. I understand why you removed the mention of the theory that the virus originated in the United States, but I think that, in light of the recent developments, it is more beneficial to add this. Obviously Wikipedia shouldn't write conspiracy theories on the main page. But information during this pandemic is constantly evolving, so theories that were previously considered as 'misinformation' may actually turn out to be the most likely to be true.

BTW, I see on your page that you're a physician. Thank you so much for everything you do! :)

JMonkey2006 (talk) 09:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

User:JMonkey2006 This is not a sufficient source.[3] Please see WP:MEDRS. The popular press gets things wrong frequently. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Vitamin B12 achieved GA

FYI - the reviewer approved Vitamin B12 for GA.

Perfect. Congrats Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Psychology Wiki

Is Psychology Wiki on Fandom a reliable source? Thank you in advance. Woundful (talk) 07:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Woundful No. It is a Wiki like here. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:23, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19 presymptomatic transmission and your reliance on secondary sources

There are strong indications of pre-symptomatic spread of the virus. I presented two primary references to support that. You have removed those, and instead rely on secondary sources (WHO and CDC). Both have increased their uncertainty about pre-symptomatic spread. You insist on only referring to "asymptomatic" spread as being low, citing WHO. Why do you not see that "presymptomatic" spread is a different issue, and is an important mode of transmission now supported by primary source research?

As I wrote: However, pre-symptomatic transmission is a mounting concern, as a study of ninety-four patients hospitalized in January and February 2020 estimated patients shed the greatest amount of virus two to three days before symptoms appear and that "a substantial proportion of transmission probably occurred before first symptoms in the index case".

Yes there are stonge indications from secondary sources of presymptomatic transmission. I have replaced the primary sources with secondary ones as recommended per WP:MEDRS. We should try to avoid primary sources. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the reason for secondary sources (I'm new to this). Are you opposed to pointing out the outstanding concern (reflected in reputable secondary sources) about presymptomatic infection? I think it's a _very_ important public health point, particularly as a rationale for wearing face covering as a means of reducing the likelihood of unwittingly emitting infectious respiratory droplets. (I'm not looking to address face covering in the article; just to note the outstanding concern of presymptomatic transmission.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartinny (talk • contribs) 03:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I am just for accurately reflecting high quality secondary sources. These discuss presymptomatic transmission and so should we. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

It appears that WHO has backed off it's Q&A assertion that asymptomatic transmission has a low likelihood, and now treats it as a mechanism of unfolding significance. The CDC now notes on their transmission page that the studies are significant. The CDC face covering recommendation page notes asymptomatic/presymptomatic transmission as a known mechanism (and cites some of the key studies). I took the new essential wording from that face covering page. It seems to be their most pointed treatment of the subject. (And got rid of my unhelpful refs here --Bartinny (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2020 (UTC))

Sounds good. If WHO and CDC change / update their position should we. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Let's clean up the COVID-19 Current Consensus Items!

Hey Doc James, the new {{Current COVID-19 Project Consensus}} template is now live. Let's ensure the items in the template are in great shape so we don't spread confusion in all pages.

There are a couple of discussions on items of the list that need more editors to reach consensus quickly (they shouldn't be too contentious but we need more votes):

• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19#Proposed change to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19/Current consensus regarding the use of Current
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19#SARS-CoV-2 naming convention

Hope you can express your opinion for those changes!

--Gtoffoletto (talk) 13:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for all your tireless work. -- {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 18:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Likewise User:Gtoffoletto :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Interoception with Eating Disorders

Hi DocJames,

I revised some content I had put into the Interoceptive section of the Bulimia Nervosa page to better advance/connect previous points of mine. I know you edited my last edits, much of which are the same here, so if you see them as unfit, please feel free to address them. One thing I did keep was explaining interoceptive awareness and interoceptive sensitivity a bit, due to the fact that IA is not explained in connection to EDs on the Interoception page, and interoceptive sensitivity as a construct is not explained at all on the Interoception page. However, if you don't think they have a place on this page, or need editing, please feel free to revise.

I also contributed to interoceptive-related therapies under Treatment sections for both the Bulimia and Anorexia pages. Again, if unfit, please make any changes you view neccessary.

Additionally, if you think any of these points have relevancy, but need better sources or development, please let me know and I'd be happy to look into that as well.

Thank you for helping to review/edit anything I contribute on these pages, and for all of your work on Wikipedia to help inform and benefit the public.

--Lumiere10 (talk) 23:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Lumiere10 sounds good. Please work on sticking to high quality secondary sources. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

FYI

Sherri Tenpenny, notable anti-vaccinationist, is getting a lot of vandalism these days and may warrant semi-protection. Thanks! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 01:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Protected for two weeks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Book: Dermatology (4th Ed)

What's up Doc :D ! Here's a book for you, Dermatology 4th edition: https://send.firefox.com/download/4461de42e9016560/#3bjWR2XEgnllNI3-UkeOCg. You may know people who have some use for it. If you're using Firefox to download it, stay focused on the tab and it should work. The download link will expire after 100 downloads or 7 days, whichever comes first. Hope this works for you and is of some help to you or someone you know. It's a 336 MB PDF file. Thanks, take care !

Aku-PDF-Finder (talk) 15:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User:Aku-PDF-Finder. I have fairly good access to books through my University. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

want to share your watch list load?

I would be keen to watch most of ID and pubic health, leave the rest of medicine to you. would that work? Good thing to say at the ARBCOM but I have no idea bout that maybe --Almaty (talk) 16:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Almaty if you go through these and put the ID ones on your watchlist that would be good :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I've never in my wiki career used the watch list. I just remember what I wanna check and edit. I'll give it a shot. After careful analysis and review I come down very strongly on the aims of your edits as opposed to those attacking you on the Arbcom Board. However, I do not agree with your methods to achieving those aims, which have led to escalation with me in 2 past occasions. I think I get where you're coming from now, but as many said, you need to trim your watch list. Attention is important, nuance is important. If i'm in your "clique" as it bizarrely seems to how WP:MED stands at the moment, I never want to see consensus content changed or edit warred by admins, about anything. Especially with the edit summary "adjusting". Deal? And thanks for the mentorship over covid if that what is was, very nice to see even when we disagreed strongly. About what i was WP:CRYSTALing that i was so sure what the WHO would say in the end ;) Good work ! --Almaty (talk) 13:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Many people at WPMED agree and disagree depending on the issue in question. As long as it is done civilly there is generally no issue. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:59, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Meclizine edit undo

Hi, I don't understand how talk pages work, but I was wondering why you undid my edit on Meclizine. I don't think vertigo should be defined in the page for Meclizine, rather viewers can click on the Vertigo page link if they don't know what it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikdactyl (talk • contribs) 20:07, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

We do not want to force readers to have to go to anther article to figure out the meaning of more complicated terms. Doc James (talk · contribs · email)

Expertise at OTRS needed

Hello James, could you take a look at ticket:2020043010000031 and, if possible, respond to the concerns? Thanks, MrClog (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks and replied. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Torasemide XXX

What is the value of XXX here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Torasemide&diff=prev&oldid=888476114 Whywhenwhohow (talk) 05:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User:Whywhenwhohow. Apologies and fixed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:26, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Whywhenwhohow (talk) 05:42, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Scope of medicine prices?

Hi Doc James. I've been trying to come up with next steps for resolving the medicine pricing disputes. Perhaps come up with further guidelines for MEDMOS, or build upon Wikipedia:WikiProject Pharmacology/Style guide. It would be extremely helpful if you could indicate how you've been picking articles to add medicine prices too. It appears you've aimed for all WHO Model List of Essential Medicines. Is that correct? What about the articles that you've added prices too not on that list? Are you working from other lists perhaps? Thank you. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 17:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Hipal I have basically stopped adding further details about cost to articles that do not already contain them pending the arbcom case / further RfCs. Yes I worked on WHO essential medicines. The others were just me working on topics, no lists.

Was also thinking of going through these https://www.drugs.com/monographa.html and making sure we have redirects for common brand names, list common uses and side effects, discuss pregnancy and breastfeeding etc. Put that on hold aswell pending arbcom. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the response.

There's a lot of basic information about medications that could use consideration for the style guide, such as patent date, approval date(s), availability as a generic. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Yah I generally include the date of first approval, others I have seen adding first patent dates, and I also add whether or not it is generic. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Cardiac tamponade

Hi. You had reverted my edits on the cardiac tamponade page. Below I list some sources to show the explanation. I also have several Medical Journals & books (JAMA), Emergency Medicine, Internal Mediciane, Cadiology, etc, if you need me to pull them out and get page numbers.

1)Pericardial rub, as I had explained in my removal of the term, is not a clinical sign of cardiac tamponade. It is a sign of pericarditis. If a patient has cardiac tamponade due to pericarditis, they might have pericardial rub. But patients who have cardiac tamponade due to other causes will not have rub. It is never considered a sign of cardiac tamponade, itself, rather pericardtis. Please provide sources that state otherwise since you had put it back in the article.

"A pericardial friction rub, while not common, can also be heard in cardiac tamponade if the underlying cause is an inflammatory pericarditis." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2878263/

2)MI (Heart attack) is a common cause of cardiac tamponade, which is why I included it. https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/injuries-and-poisoning/chest-injuries/cardiac-tamponade https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/c/cardiac-tamponade.html

3)Cardiac tamponade is considered a medical emergency, which is why I put that in the lead. You removed it without explanation?

4)I included the term Beck's triad in the lead because the signs were already listed there, except your addition of pericardial rub. The term is famous for cardiac tamponade so I included it there.

5)Pericarditis and pericardial effusion are common cardiac complications of systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), which can lead to cardiac tamponade, hence my reason for including Lupus.

I look forward to your feedback. Also, I tried to address you on the talk page there, but it said your user name did not exist? I tried using 'DocJames', please let me know what to type when addressing you! Thanks. Battykin (talk) 17:45, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

(3) That it is a medical emergency does not need to go in the first sentence. The first sentence should describe what it is.

(2) The source that was present did not describe MI as a common cause. With the Merck source we can move to one of the most common causes.

(4) the name of the triad is in the body of the article already

(5) source does not list tampnade as a common cause of SLE Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Battykin 1) The NEJM review article states "Contrary to common belief, a pericardial rub is a frequent finding in patients with inflammatory effusions"[4] So I am not sure what is incorrect with mentioning it? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (April 2020).

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OTRS request

This ticket ticket:2020050110005106 contains a medical assertion.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Sphilbrick your response is good as is this link. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/glycose Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Doc James, Thanks, I did a quick google search, and thought the person was offbase, but wanted more professional eyes on it. S Philbrick(Talk) 10:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Organization

Hi. The template looked disorganized. I was going reorganize it to say "fentanyls, morphinans, codeines, nalorphines." How should I reorganize a disorganized template as seen here? Personisgaming (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

{{Opioid_receptor_modulators}}

I have never worked on that template. I see you have posted on thet talk page which is good. It is organized by receptor, not sure why the proposed change? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

DLB FAC ready

James, could you let me know here if you would like to be listed as a co-nom? Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Have replied. You have done by far most of the work. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:37, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

The coronavirus naming pages are fascinating

Do you remember how that was what made me first start editing again? Well.... now I "won" because i was so "COVID-19" but my god in the last three months I have learned so much about wikipedia, its processes, the reasons I used to stop editing all those years ago when I was mainly an IP editor, and why I'm going to keep going.

Thanks so much indeed for building the faith in me, for the discussions, for the support even though we vehemently disagreed at one point about several things, for keeping me going on one of the most stressful topics to edit in the world at the time, when we both were simultaneously working on it IRL from different angles.

With my comments on the arb case, I think they're fair. I support virtually all of your edits as you know, but I've always wanted them to be more collaborative, like you have done with me, and I hope you do with more new"ish" editors in the future.

Siente,

Pete --Almaty (talk) 10:08, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

For reference, if you cant remember. It was your engagement from such a "senior" wikipedian that made me start editing again, and has been a great three months! --Almaty (talk) 10:15, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Almaty glad you stuck around. Yes I see that we have moved to COVID-19. That as a name has pulled ahead so not unreasonable. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Mate its not just unreasonable, it was the point of the WHO's politics - - - - - your favourite source? --Almaty (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

WHO uses "Coronavirus disease pandemic" aswell.[5] In the end I am happy with either. COVID-19 pandemic is shorter and we have used abbreviations for longer names in the past like HIV/AIDS. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes. We agree about 99% of things, I think you have a few things to re-learn from User:Colin about prose as well, things dont need to be dumbed down, they need to be clear, accessible and well written. I'm quite proud how noone has challenged the new transmission section, tis both clear and has good prose. We shouldnt be making sentence fragments all over the place, because native english speakers dont read like that and it confuses our minds. Ongoing discussion but theres a middle, and you guys have been out to dinner before, perhaps do it again. Much love from Australia. --Almaty (talk) 11:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I think the COVID-19_pandemic#Transmission is written at a reasonable reading level. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:37, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Exactly, does User:Colin disagree? Its very translatable but the thing is it also flows well as prose for the native English speaker. You and me spent tens upon tens of hours on that section, and I think thats what Wikipedia needs to aim for? Thats why I'm editing anyway... --Almaty (talk) 11:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

copy-paste detection

Hi Doc- Thanks for catching that new user's copy-paste. Wish I'd picked up on it before I did that work building the ref! Is the detection software something that runs on its own and produces alert that you saw? Or do you run it on suspect material? Eric ^talk 15:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Eric this is our copy and paste detection tool [6] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Doc! Eric ^talk 00:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)