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Thanks for helping make Wikipedia better. Enjoy your research! Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:35, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Leno FA

Warmest congrats to you and Ssilvers! It's a thoroughly deserved promotion. And what may we expect to see next from the Cassianto FAC studio? Tim riley (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tim! Dan was a very interesting person to research and I'm very happy with the finished result. I still have the clog dancing belt image to add, just as soon as I can get upto the V&A to take a picture of it! My next project? I honestly don't know. I'm going to take a look around over the next few weeks and decide who I find interesting enough. Joseph Grimaldi, Seymour Hicks or maybe even the Carry On's are all possible runners -- Cassianto (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations, Chris! Re:Trixinixie, she also needs to read WP:COI (and WP:CITE). All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Right back at ya! Without you, Leno would still be lurking in start class! As for Trixienixie, I suspect of course any policy will be ignored. Still, at least we have confirmed he/she has a conflict of interests. Or maybe I'm just a cynical old FA contributor :-D -- Cassianto (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

HI there, its Miss Tixie Nixie here. I am a complete novice (apologies) and trying my best to add accurate information. I therefore apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused to anyone by not adding all the symbols correctly. I am indeed a volunteer with The Music Hall Guild of Great Britain and America and often get invited to their commemoration events, so I am just reporting back the news and facts as I find them that relate to the theatre and music hall people they celebrate, because I see it as important public information. The Music Hall Guild have their own website so do not need me to advertise the lovely work that they do but I understand how you can think I am trying to advertise this charity but I assure you I am not and I have not even mentioned to them that I have been adding information to Wiki. I hope someone gets to see this message. (Tixienixie (talk) 13:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)TixienixieTixienixie (talk) 13:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC))

Thanks for your time

Many thanks for recording your thoughts on how to improve the School of Advanced Military Studies article. I'll certainly do as you suggest. I just wanted to pass on my appreciation for your time invested. Best regards, --Airborne84 (talk) 01:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

That's ok. I hope my points help in what is promising to be a very good article. -- Cassianto (talk) 22:08, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that

I didn't realize I had accidentally removed your comments with this edit. I was having problems around that time, kept getting "loss of session data" warnings when I hit save. P.S. Congrats on Dan Leno! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:40, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Alec Douglas-Home

I don't know how enthused you are about Tory politicians of the mid 20th century, but I have Sir Alec up for FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alec Douglas-Home/archive1) should you care to look in and comment. Quite understand if it's not your thing. Tim riley (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I would be happy to Tim, although Official Monster Raving Loony Party is more my politcal persuasion :-) I will take a look tomorrow. -- Cassianto (talk) 20:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

  The Guidance Barnstar
I just wanted to show my gratitude for all your help and advice in my first few months as a Wikipedian. Danesman (talk) 19:17, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Wow, thanks! I'm greatful for this show of appreciation. -- Cassianto (talk) 00:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: Late Spring PA

Thank you for your comments. I have replied to Tim Riley's comments on his talk page and also, just now, on the PR archive page. I will respond to your suggestions within the next few days. Thanks. Dylanexpert (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I have put the Cast list in table format not only to eliminate white space, but to make it easier to read. I took the four citations that were in the middle of the sentence to which I believe you were referring and moved them to the end of the sentence. I have put citations in both places in which the phrase "pillow shot" appears in quotes and eliminated the quotes around the phrase in all other instances. Done! Dylanexpert (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Joan Crawford

Hi. As you're semi involved at this point, I would like to let you know that I have attempted to begin a discussion about including or finally removing the link to that fansite on the Crawford article talk page. If you have a free moment, your input is welcome. Thanks! Pinkadelica 20:32, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Absolutley I'll see you there! -- CassiantoTalk 20:52, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'm sorry for the late response. I see that you already reported the IP user. Not sure if they'll be blocked but I think reporting them is the best way to go. It's amazing that (s)he hasn't bothered to respond to the discussion but went back to edit warring. Sheesh. Pinkadelica 18:27, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Country Houses

I was wondering if you or you know anybody who'd be interested in such a project. One of my chief loves is British country houses and I don't at present see a project set up to help coordinate it and to collaborate over. If interested let me know and I'll consider making a proposal.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid I wouldn't be very active. As much as I love architecture (especially Audley End House which I live up the road to) my knowledge is very limited. I would, however, dip in and out from time to time if that's any good? -- CassiantoTalk 07:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Dan Leno

This is a note to let the main editors of Dan Leno know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 21, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 21, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Dan Leno (1860–1904) was a leading English music hall comedian and musical theatre actor during the late Victorian era. He was perhaps best known, aside from his music hall act, for his dame roles in the annual pantomimes that were popular at London's Theatre Royal, Drury Lane from 1888 to 1904. As a youth, he was famous for his clog dancing, and in his teen years, he became the star of his family's act. As a solo artist, he became increasingly popular during the late 1880s and 1890s, when he was one of the highest-paid comedians in the world. He developed a music hall act of talking about life's mundane subjects, mixed with comic songs and surreal observations, and created a host of mostly working-class characters to illustrate his stories. In 1901, still at the peak of his career, he performed his "Huntsman" sketch for Edward VII at Sandringham. The monarch was so impressed that Leno became publicly known as "the king's jester". Leno continued to appear in musical comedies and his own music hall routines until 1902, although he suffered increasingly from alcoholism. This, together with his long association with dame and low comedy roles, prevented him from being taken seriously as a dramatic actor. He suffered a mental breakdown in early 1903 and was committed to a mental asylum, but was discharged later that year. After one more show, his health declined, and he died aged 43. (more...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on Dan Leno's front page bow! -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
And warmest congrats to you too. I wonder who nominated it? Or are they just picked at random? Still no matter, never has the main page looked more interesting! :-) -- CassiantoTalk 06:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations indeed! However did you find the time to do so much for Burges? KJP1 (talk) 06:49, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank's for the message. I will always make time for Burges, whom I feel, will be making his appearence in the not to distant future . -- CassiantoTalk 07:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


  discography and stage performances
Thank you for giving us all the details about Dan Leno's performances - his discography and appearances - who was great in "life's mundane subjects, mixed with comic songs and surreal observations", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, thanks a lot! I shall treasure it always! -- CassiantoTalk 08:40, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


I've been a bit busy and shall probably continue to be so for a couple of weeks, but I'll poke about when I get an odd 5 minutes. It's probably best to write it "in full" and then cut it down rather than try to condense it as you go along. I'm think we need to weave the JS story more into the body rather than leaving it until the end, as a lot of his decisions in his later career were based around trying to do the best for his son. Yomanganitalk 15:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Blast! I just left a message on your TP on this very subject. Yeah no problems with that. It's great knowing your backstage and when you do pop up you make vast improvements. I am just getting to JS (he has been quite in Boz up till now) but he is due to make an appearance in a few pages time. As I go along, I am very tempted to create a secondary article entitled "Stage performances of Joseph Grimaldi" and link it in with this, much the same as I did with Leno. Thanks for the advice. I shall just continue as I am and suffer the many cut backs when it gets copy edited. All the best and speak soon! -- CassiantoTalk 15:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

John Smith's Brewery

Yeah that would be great if you could email that birth certificate to me, purely for personal reasons as I'd love to see it. My email is [obscured for privacy reasons] Your reference should be more than enough evidence for the Wikipedia page. This is incredibly good work as even the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography and a history of the John Smith's Brewery that I own don't name his birth date. Farrtj (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that! If you help out with the article in any other form then please by all means to so. Farrtj (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
will do. And just have! Enjoy! -- CassiantoTalk 18:36, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Would you be willing to do the peer review yourself? It's just that the queue for peer review is pretty lengthy. I might need some help re: referencing. Farrtj (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I can do. Give me a week as I'm a bit busy at the moment. Withdraw from FAC and I will help out. If you list on PR page, I will pick it up in due course. If someone comes along in the mean time whilst it's listed then I will chip in during the PR. -- CassiantoTalk 19:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

The John Smith image is described as "by unknown photographer" in the ODNB. No idea where he was educated, but if the ODNB doesn't say then I guess no one knows. I have deleted the flow-breaking "Beers" section. Farrtj (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

If it's on ODNB I would suggest it's not OK as it's copyrighted. Reasonable steps will have to be made to ascertain who the photographer was. If it can be proven the photo was taken before 1923 then it should be OK but the source would need to be changed to that. ODNB was *not* before then (it was 2007) so the *origin* will have to be known. If unknown, might I suggest approaching the brewery or library (as its part of ODNB) to see if a book has a photo in there of Smith which was pre 1923. I will also have a look about. But like I say, I am no image expert. The greatest of articles all to frequently suffer problems at FAC due to its images. So I would say try to do the research or face loosing it at FAC. -- CassiantoTalk 20:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Surname usage

does his full name have to appear again? FA's of the similar say differently. Opt for surname only usage.

When you say "again", do you mean after appearing in the lead? The lead is supposed to be a summary of the body, so traditionally, anything that appears in the lead can usually be found in the body. I'm not familiar with the style of removing the full name from the first instance in the early life section. Can you point me to any guidelines or policies in that direction? Generally, when we say "surname only usage", we mean after it has already appeared in the lead and the first instance in the body. If someone is saying something different, that would be news to me. Viriditas (talk) 01:26, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

As far as I know there are no guidelines, the only one being WP:SURNAME, However, this says nothing about having a full name having to be mentioned in the body. It just says:
"After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only, without an honorific prefix such as "Mr", "Mrs", "Miss", or "Ms"."
I am used to seeing the surname appear only in articles, and that goes for the opening line in the body. Sure the full and proper name appears in the lede, butthis, this, this, and this - who are of similar notoriety and profession, have the full name omitted from the body. Maybe it is just one of those strange unwritten rules WP offers up from time to time and is a matter of personal preference. If that's the case we shall have to agree to disagree. It's your review, go with what you feel's best :-) -- CassiantoTalk 04:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
That's what I thought you were referring to in the first place. Why would the full name only appear in the lead? I think you (and obviously others) are misinterpreting the guideline. I see that several FA bios have been changed for this reason, which appears to be a mistake. This is the fifth time in the last two weeks that I've been in a discussion with editors who have literally interpreted a guideline and/or policy in a way that it wasn't intended. This is not your problem, but it is apparently a growing problem that needs to be addressed. Having been aware of the SURNAME style guideline long before it was ever codified, I believe it began as a style guideline in journalism, possibly the AP Stylebook or some other related style guideline. Now, while an encyclopedia article can be written in a news style, it is not a news article. That's a really important distinction to keep in mind. One way to look at this is to review how obituaries are written. Going from memory, full names in obituaries are only written once, and while obits might have a summary news lead or use pyramid style, they don't have Wikipedia-style lead sections. SURNAME is intended primarily in instances where we refer to the full name of a person in the first instance, and in good journalistic style, refer to only their surname in subsequent uses. The "first instance" in this example, was never intended to imply the name of a biographical subject in the lead section, and I'm not sure how this misinterpretation began. Viriditas (talk) 08:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Manual of Style is not the world's most comprehensible document, and I cannot say if it pronounces on this matter, but I can conscientiously say that in the twelve featured biographical articles with which I have been closely associated it has been Xxxxx Yyyyy Zzzz in the lead but just Zxxx at the start of the main text. I cannot swear to it, but I am pretty sure that the same goes for all the featured biographical articles in the FAC reviews of which I have taken part. I find the resulting articles very comfortable to my eye. I don't think trotting out "Sir Somebody Something, OM" twice is of any help to the reader. – Tim riley (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
"Why would the full name 'only' appear in the lead?" Because, IMO it is an unnecessary repetition. We know who we are reading about and, as Tim point's out above, to repeat it would not be at all helpful. Like I said, it seems to be a grey area and if its added or not added would be down to a person's personal preference and for discussions to take place, like this, to find a consensus. -- CassiantoTalk 16:21, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

In bio articles, I agree that the full name only needs to be given once, in the Lead; after that we need only the last name, unless there is an issue of confusion with other family members. The name by which the person was best known should be the title of the article. Since this is the article about this person, no one is going to forget their name, and so repetition would be pointless. If you look at the many FA bio articles, they do not repeat the full name, and so there is ample precedent for use of only the last name. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

The only problem is that you are wrong; there is no such "precedent" and many FA bio articles do repeat the full name. For example, if we sample FA bios that have a given name and a surname starting with the letter A, we find that roughly half repeat the name in the lead and in the body. These include: Abu Nidal, Adam Gilchrist, Adelaide Anne Procter, Adolfo Farsari, Adrian Cole, Alain Prost, Albert Kesselring, Alexander Cameron Rutherford, Alexis Bachelot, Alfred Russel Wallace, Alice Ayres, Alister Murdoch, Ambrose Rookwood, André Kertész, Angus Lewis Macdonald, Ann Bannon, Anna May Wong, Anne Frank, Anton Chekhov, Antonin Scalia, Art Houtteman, Arthur Percival, Arthur Sifton, Augustus Owsley Stanley, Austin Nichols. We are talking about repeating the name of a biographical article title in the lead and in the body, which is neither unnecessary nor rare, but actually, quite standard and expected. Lead sections almost always repeat information from the body (see WP:LEADCITE). In terms of referencing, I would expect to see the information in the lead repeated in the body. The intent of WP:SURNAME was never to count the "initial mention of any name" as starting in the lead section, but to limit repeating the number of times the full name was used in the body of the article. This appears to be another literal misinterpretation of a guideline. Viriditas (talk) 03:22, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
With the greatest possible respect, there is a certain lack of logical thinking in the above comment. If (AGF) "roughly half" the FA biographies repeat the subject's full name in the text, then by a simple arithmetical process you'll easily discover that roughly half don't repeat it. I call that ample precedent. I cannot guess how many editors have commented on my various FAC nominations over the years – at least thirty different people, I imagine – and to the best of my recollection not one of them has raised this point. It isn't a matter on which I feel passionately, and if there were a consensus in favour of repeating the full name I wouldn't have a fit of the vapours, but happily as there is demonstrably no such consensus the question does not arise. – Tim riley (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
That's a specious response. The sample does not represent an "ample precedent" nor does WP:SURNAME refer to using surnames in lead sections. The lead is expected to repeat content in the body, including names. You've made a poor assumption that because half of our bios do not, that must imply a style guideline is being followed. However, as far as I can tell, that is not the case. What I am seeing is a mixture of different styles, with no ample precedent in evidence. My main point isn't that I disagree with this style–in fact I have no strong opinion on it, as I am fairly open to different styles being used when they are required. The point that I'm making is that SURNAME was never intended to be cited for this precedent as our lead guidelines support repetition for the purposes of summarizing the topic, including the name of a bio subject. At least one editor in this discussion has argued that it helps the reader to avoid repetition, but one can also argue that it hurts the reader to remove it, since the lead as well as elements of the body should be able to stand alone in isolation from each other, to facilitate reader browsing habits. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I struggle with the previous addition. It contradicts non-existent statements: if User:Viriditas would be kind enough to read my earlier additions carefully he/she will see that I have not mentioned WP:SURNAME, nor have I suggested that a style guideline is or is not being followed. I have simply mentioned my own practice, such as it is, and that of the FAC biography candidates I have reviewed. As to precedent, Viriditas evidently uses the word in a different way from the rest of the world. See the Oxford English Dictionary in this context: "an example by which a comparable subsequent act may be justified". As on Viriditas's own admission half the sampled FAC biographies follow one course and half follow the other, there is, if words have any meaning at all, ample precedent for either. – Tim riley (talk) 10:02, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi there, thanks for the message! I completely understand that you are busy at the moment, so please don't stress about not being able to be actively involved in the overhaul of the CC article. It's just great to know that there is someone else besides me and Lobo who is interested in it and can give advice on it! Good luck with completing the article on Grimaldi; I read the Dan Leno article you have worked on and really liked it, I'm definitely looking forward to reading the one about Grimaldi! -- TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 20:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

  • Not so great on his Hollywood years, but if there are any grey area's around CC's early time in Britain, I may be of some help. I will do my best to dip in and out, on breaks from Grimaldi and a pending featured list attempt on Dan Leno's discography. I think you two have done immensely well in getting CC back to scratch. Well done! -- CassiantoTalk 21:45, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Leno peer review

I have asked for help at the Discography and Comedy projects and from a few of the people from our FAC. You might go over to FLC, and see if you can identify a few people there who seem experienced *and helpful* (that, is, not just anyone) and invite them, on their talk pages, to give us comments here. Hope we get some good comments. :-) -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:53, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Your email

Hiya! Thanks for the email, I hope you don't mind if I respond here? It sounds to me like both images would be worth uploading to the Commons (I'm sure they must be PD). Does the 1891 census include a mention of the Chaplins? Of course that wouldn't prove his birth place though. Even the M15 were unable to ascertain that location! How on earth do you have a copy of his army enrolment certificate?! I've never even seen that included in a Chaplin book (I don't think). I'm pretty sure it would have been reproduced in newspapers at the time actually, since there was a bit of fuss over the whole thing. I would be interested to see it, but I'm fairly sure it could be uploaded to the Commons for everyone to see. Would you be willing to do that? All the best, --Lobo (talk) 12:31, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I dont know if it is PD. It is not my image or scan so permission may have to be sought. The info given re the use of images are "Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266." I can call them and find out if this criteria fits in with WP if you like?

What I have access too + more

I have access to many many things when it comes to ancestory. Including

  • Wills and probate,
  • Census records,
  • Birth records,
  • Death records,
  • Telephone directory,
  • War certificates including medals,
  • War grave interments,
  • British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 2,350 
  • British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 271 
  • British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 506 
  • British Commonwealth War Graves Registers, 1914-1918 50 
  • Charterhouse Register 1872-1910 14 
  • England, The National Roll of the Great War, 1914-1918 17 
  • Gateshead, Durham, England, Roll of Honour, 1914-1920 4 
  • Great Britain Army War List, January 1893 64 
  • Scottish Soldiers in Colonial America, Part III 2 
  • The French and Indian War from Scottish Sources 2 
  • UK Royal Navy Medical Journals, 1817-1857 5 
  • UK, British Army Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 52 
  • UK, Casualties of the Boer War, 1899-1902 20 
  • UK, Citations of the Distinguished Conduct Medal, 1914-1920 6 
  • UK, De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour, 1914-1924 23 
  • UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 12 
  • UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972 165 
  • UK, Navy Lists, 1908, 1914
  • Electrol register's
  • Incoming passenger lists for migration and travel.

Basically anything! I have helped out many many people on here when it comes to determining unknown dates of birth, death, residence, war service etc etc.


By the way, for Chaplin, I hold 1891 census, 1901 census, war service certificate. I also have the following from a school inventory which Chaplin attended. The details are as follows:

  • Name: Chas Chaplin

[Charles (Charlie) Spencer Chaplin] 

  • Age: 6
  • Birth Date: 16 Apr 1889
  • School: Addington Street School
  • Borough: Lambeth
  • Admission Date: 2 Sep 1895
  • Parent: Charles
  • Notes: Addington Street School (0412) opened in 1877. Closed or reorganised in 1938
  • Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/ADD/AD/006

It can be referenced as London School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911, London Metropolitan Archives

Census record for 1891

The 1891 census has the following information on it:

  • Name: Charles Chaplin

[Charles Spencer Chaplin] 

  • Age: 2
  • Estimated Birth Year: 1889
  • Relation: Son
  • Mother's name: Hannah Chaplin
  • Gender: Male
  • Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
  • Civil parish: Newington St Mary
  • Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth All Saints
  • Town: London City
  • County/Island: London
  • Country: England
  • Street Address:
  • Occupation:No
  • Condition as to marriage:No
  • Education:No
  • Employment status:No
  • Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
  • Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
  • ED, institution, or vessel: 29b
  • Piece: 362
  • Folio: 42
  • Page Number: 5
  • Household Members:
  • Hannah Chaplin 24
  • Sydney J H Chaplin 6
  • Charles Chaplin 2

To reference this you need to format it like this: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891, The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), Class: RG12; Piece: 362; Folio: 42; Page: 5.

I will call the national archives and report back to see if it would be ok to use. By all means call them too as if there is a demand it may go in our favour. If not, then a mention in the body with the correctly formatted reference would suffice I think. If you need me to look up anything at all for Chaplin as well as future projects, don't hesitate to drop me a line. And if you want me to send you the original scans drop me an email. I will more than likely have it. :-) -- CassiantoTalk 14:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, you're accessing this stuff from the National Archives - is that right? Thanks for typing out the info! I'm not sure there is anything there that could reference the article, Chaplin has received extensive research and it's all available in the biographies if needed, but it it is interesting to see! It could be seen as proof that he was born in Walworth (I personally think he probably was), but I don't dare make that suggestion if even the biographers are unsure. As for the war certificate, I feel like anything produced by the army/government (especially that early) must be PD, but I suppose that could be wrong. Only go to the trouble of contacting them if you feel inclined to. :) --Lobo (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Correct (via I have a subscription which searches everything. I will find out if it's PD and upload it. -- CassiantoTalk 19:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review?

Hi [Cassianto], I have Marshall Applewhite up for peer review at the moment, and am trying to drum up some reviewers. He had a brief career in music, but then started an unusual religious group--you might find it interesting. No problem if you're busy though, Mark Arsten (talk) 23:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Hicks filmography

I don't think that this is better, because it makes it harder to read across the rows. Plus, you could use the white space on the right for images.... Up to you. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll revert. I didn't think there were any images. I'll have a look round. -- CassiantoTalk 08:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Stanley Holloway

Hi there, great article on Hollway—very enjoyable to read, as well as being informative. Just to let you know that your first reference (the BMD search) now has a dud return that reads "Out of date reference The database in use when the search was performed (bmd_1322564104) is no longer available. Please re-run the search". Cheers - SchroCat (^@) 09:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cassianto, No probs on the BMD ref. I saw the Leno article—another very impressive piece of work it is too. I only found out about the Sellers and Leno connection a couple of years ago: interesting that both of them seem to have fallen into the troubled soul/tortured genius category at some point in their lives. As a start I'm hoping to get Sellers up to a GA—it's a fairly decent article which just needs a bit of a shake up and a little polishing here and there, so it should be okay for that. After that I'll see about an FA. I've not done an FA before, although I nominated Ian Fleming a couple of days ago, so I'll see how that one goes. I'll certainly drop you a line as and when I need advice in the future! Many thanks - SchroCat (^@) 16:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see your e-mail. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


Hi Cassianto, Thanks for your note. I'd be absolutely delighted to see any docs you have on Fleming—it's always great to drop in some key references from such sources to really bolster the secondary sources. Thanks very much for the offer: it's very much appreciated. - SchroCat (^@) 00:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. yes I was keen on improving the film side of things as he has a lot of biographical info but not much on his films. But he said there was a reason for that. I'm afraid my version might be too much for him.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Quite agree. Articles on actors should have a good coverage and also have some reviews by film critics. Doesn't have to be quite as intense as the Clint Eastwood article though..♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Charles Macklin

Sorry, mate, you are, of course, correct! I did go a wee bit overboard on the 'overlinking'!! Will try to 'restrain' myself and not do it again. Apologies once again. Laggan Boy (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. -- CassiantoTalk 14:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Nonfree content on your userpage

Per the policies on the usage of non-free images on Wikipedia, non-free images are not allowed on pages outside of the article namespace, including userpages. An image on your user page is copyrighted and unlicensed, so I had to remove it. I'm sorry if you are upset by my editing your page without your permission, but this is a rule where Wikipedia allows no exceptions. I want to make sure you know that this isn't personal. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions, or to seek another editor's opinion at the WP:MCQ discussion board. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 01:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

While I embrace WP's rules and conditions of use, I take umbrage at another user making alterations to my userpage without prior consultations with me first. Having read the guideline, the image will now remain off of my page. This, I want known, is not out of respect for your edit, but as a commitment to adhere to WP's policies and guidelines (however much I disagree with them).
Second to that, may I remind you of this old maxim; "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I suggest you take a look at WP:TALKCOND, a guideline which you should digest as soon as possible. It strikes me that you need to get your own talk page/user page into some sort of order first instead of going around worrying about other peoples. -- CassiantoTalk 05:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The Rambling Man arbitration proposed decision posted

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Precious anniversary

Six years!

How about a fresh start? I like this message to my friend, "and here's to the future". - Every editor is a human being, no editor deserves to be treated like dirt, and I'll listen to all complaints of me not following that. - Six years ago, you said you'd always treasure this, DYK? Happy days, then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Into Each Life Some Rain Must Fall. Flooded with them hundreds 17:26, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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