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RE: Request for intervention

I've blocked the user - hopefully they'll no go away. Slac speak up! 08:23, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Slac.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:39, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Avochelm speedy

I saw you replaced the "article" text with the tag. Please, don't delete text when tagging, so people can easily see why it's being tagged. Also, you may want to use {{db|reason}} which allows you to add a reason for your tagging. Happy editing! - Mgm|(talk) 09:53, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi Mgm. Sorry, that was accidental! The anonymous editor had removed an earlier speedy tag. It appears to be an attack on User:Avochelm, so removal would be justified in any case.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 10:00, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi, a particular page has been vandalised in a number of modifications (e.g. -(970) 217-4920 this man is a very hot hot hot foot ball player, that loves is so cool, and i love him, he likes men). I could change each individual act of vandalism. It would be easier to revert back about 6 versions. How do you do that? Avalon 22:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Revert. Go to the page history, click on the date of the version you wish to revert to, once loaded "edit this page" and save. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:33, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Someone else already reverted the 10 vandalising revisions but its good I can do it myself if/when I see it again. Avalon 08:36, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Hi, and thanks for your welcome. I am also Sydney-born and now live in Canberra. Funnily enough, I am a believer in Jesus (but I have a lot of time for atheists). So we have a lot in (and not in) common. Thanks for your offer of help - I will probably take you up on it. Cheers for now. --DarbyAsh 08:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Politics!

Cyberjunkie, apologies for not personally welcoming you to the project yet, and many thanks for signing up so soon after its inception. Both the Portal and WikiProject pages are more or less up and running now, and the project page has a list of start-up tasks on there. At the moment, my main concern is to compile all categories relating to Politics and somehow present a useful selection of these on the Portal, but it would be just as helpful to start adding other tasks on the project page to keep everyone busy.

The fact that you already run a Politics project will be of great use - I'm sure you have a much better idea of how to go about things than I do, so add as many tasks as you can think of. The dust will settle soon, after which the project can get busy keeping the politics content of WP up to date, well organised, etc.

I hope you don't mind me using your AusPoliticsTasks template to make PoliticsTasks - it's on the project page and will no doubt be very useful. On a similar note, would you object if I nicked your user page? I saw that you yourself made it from a format you had seen elsewhere, so I hope you don't object if I copy out the formatting. Thanks, --HighHopes (T)(+)(C)(E)(P) 11:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, and again, I must thank you for getting both the Portal and Project started. At this stage, I don't think I can make any improvements on what you've already done - testament to your fine work :). Whilst I started the WikiProject Australian politics, it was organised in very large part by Ambi. The task template is a standard template, so no, I don't mind you using it at all. Nor do I mind you using my user-page format; that format was first designed by Blankfaze, and I merged a couple variants. My time being limited as it is, I don't imagine I'll be making any major contributions to politcs-related articles (and WikiProject Adelaide is my priority). However, I'll certainly be engaging in any Project discussions, and should be able to help maintain the Portal; I'm fairly involved with Portals as it is, and I created and maintain The Australia Wikiportal and The New Zealand Wikiportal (the latter I'm now less involved with). Thanks again, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


Cheers for the kind words regarding the Waterfall Gully article. I'm hoping it'll soon be a South Australian replacement for Summer Hill in regards to what a "feature-grade" suburb article should represent.


Who's RfA

Thank you for supporting my masters RfA. He appreciates your support and comments and looks forward to better serving Wikipedia the best he can. Of course I will be doing all of the real work. He would have responded to you directly, but he is currently out of town, and wanted to thank you asap. Thanks again. --Who's mop?¿? 21:05, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


That was crazy on 2005 Bali bombings, bug I guess. On a seperate note do you mind if I borrow some elements of your talk page design, it's really cool. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 02:55, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

It was very freaky! I tried to fix it as quick as possible. As for my page design, I don't mind at all. Feel free :).--Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Tony Abbott's Bali hospital visit

I just wanted to clarify my reasoning for including Tony Abbott's hospital visit. I figured that a federal minister visiting a hospital at the scene of a terrorist attack, less than 24 hours after the incident, warranted inclusion as a notable response. I understand that the definition of 'response' may be the point in question; as the other responses listed are more general verbal responses to the event, not actions taken (however opportunistic).

Still, I'm not fussed if you wish to remove it. I'm not going to get my panties in a twist, especially defending Tony Abbott! :) Respekt. Cnwb 08:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't believe I ever objected? I modeled the section on the response to the 2005 London bombings, but didn't separate Head of Government comments from others. Perhaps that will eventually happen, but the Abbott thing is certainly worth inclusion (though I'm not fond of him, either). :)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 08:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
No wukkas. I only brought it up because you deleted the text after I poasted it. Cnwb 09:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I did? Oops. That's the problem with current events: everyone's editing at the same time! And edit conflict doesn't always work, especially when section editing. Sorry! ;-)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Your RFA

Thanks for your opinion but I still would like to apply to become an admin. I want a rollback button to help me remove vandalism and to be able to warn people that vandalise and if they keep doing it ban them.

I would also like to suggest a ban from editing pages for people that after a warning continue to vandalise, If there is not already one.

By the way the image at the top of the page of does not show up --Adam1213 17:48, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Not at all...

...nasty git, Skyring. Thanks for such a courteous message, though! · Katefan0(scribble) 17:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


Nope, go for it. Did my comment somehow support him against her? If so, I wish I could gt it out of the page history! She's one of the best editors on the site. How come she isn't a bureacrat yet? Need to do something about that... Guettarda 17:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps you could block (talkcontribspage movesblock userblock log)? It won't stop him, but it will delay him some.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 17:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Blocked now. (If anyone wants proof, try [1]). I didn't realise until recently that Alan Skyring is the name of Queensland's most notorious vexatious litigant - I suppose that explains a lot. Slac speak up! 20:19, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
That's a funny co-incidence. Thanks Slac. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 02:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Bali Bombings and John Howard

Howdy, whatya make of the ABC online news story on the Sidney Jones vs John Howard versions on motivations of the bombers? Would you slot that in somewhere? Noting that the revert you took on Howard's making issue downplaying any news versions of prior warnings?vcxlor 00:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC) Oh, and frustratingly my computers seem to log in and out, so my vcxlor and 60... number seem to alternate without my having control over it, so the 60 no shows up on some where it should be vcxlor. Best Wishesvcxlor 00:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi vcxlor. I've added a paragraph on motivations. Funnily enough, I was actually just reading that story when I came to your message.--Cyberjunkie Talk 03:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Great minds and so onvcxlor 03:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually 'The West Australian' carried mugshots of the severed heads today - I only thought that Indonesian newspapers did that sort of stuff - do you know if the ES papers did likewise?vcxlor 03:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I saw it on television last night (to my revulsion). I haven't seen today's SA papers yet, and of the ES papers, I usually only look at The Age. Still, nothing as gruesome as that video the media played over and over of those poor Yank contractors being desecrated by a mob in Iraq.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I was doing post grad fieldwork in java in mid 90's and could not believe what was acceptable to indonesian print media. this one by the west is odd- it will be interesting as west journos get very defensive about their sense of what is appropriate (and they never will get on wiki because they never cite their sources!  :) vcxlor 03:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Aircraft specs policy

Several weeks ago, you voted in the WikiProject Aircraft Specifications Survey. One of the results of the survey was that the specifications for the various aircraft articles will now be displayed using a template. Ericg and I have just finished developing that template; a lengthier bulletin can be found on the WT:Air talkpage. Naturally, we will need to begin a drive to update the aircraft articles. However, several topics in the survey did reach establish consensus, and they need to be resolved before we implement the template. It is crticial that we make some conclusion, so that updating of the specs can resume as soon as possible. You can take part in the discussions here. Thanks, Ingoolemo talk 06:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Politics of Australia

My mistake. I have already begun removing the new template from several articles. Can you direct me to a portal to discuss establishing a side template suitable to all? Brisvegas 09:56, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I hope I wasn't to harsh. And sorry for the late response - I am floating in and out of Wikipedia at the moment. To discuss a reformat of the existing Template:Politics of Australia, just raise the issue at it's talk page.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 11:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

2005 Kashmir earthquake

  Indian subcontinent earthquakes list Thank you for your contribution at 2005 Kashmir earthquake.
Please keep it up!!! - P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.

5.25 10 October 2005


Hi, Cyberjunkie, I saw you're interested in (classical) music. Maybe you would like to talk about the possible creating of a Wikimusic? There are no real plans right now, but we would like your imput! Please add you comment at this page, and put your name on the list if you want to stay informed. If you would want to, you can add your email as well. In front of you reaction I thank you for your enthousiasm. If you know someone who might be interested, don't hesitate, and give him/her the link! (, even if they are not active on wikipedia. Spread the word!!! effeietsanders 14:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for helping out with the nomination. --nixie 23:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)


You've been nominated. Your RFA subpage is at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyberjunkie. Good luck, Snottygobble | Talk 00:55, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on being nominated as the first South Australian administrator. Good luck. --Scott Davis Talk 09:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Wow, I suppose I am. Thanks for your support! --Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Congrats and Good Luck. Adz 12:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Adelstub → Adelaide-stub

Hi Cyberjunkie - thought you should know that Template:Adelstub has been renamed after debate at WP:WSS (it's now Adelaide-stub). I was going to change the reference to it on your user page, but that looks like a weird beast you've constructed there, so I'll leave it to you! Grutness...wha? 11:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

It's fixed now. Thanks for the heads up.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:16, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Locator Maps

Hi Cyberjunkie, I have uploaded some more minor city locator maps, and state locators in a matching style. I think there might be some arguments about changing from the existing state locators, as the existing bitmap ones must have been a lot of fidly work to put together. Anyway if you are keen to roll out the Australian City info box, you might find the extra locators useful.

Oh and congratuations on the admin nom voting is looking good. Martyman 22:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza Election

Thank you very much for your vote of confidence in the first ever Esperanza elections. Even though the elections are not finished, and it remains to be seen who comprises the Advisory Council, I would like to say that I am excited to work with you and the other Esperanzians in helping the community portion of Wikipedia improve. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 21:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


Thank-you for the welcome and advice.--FloNight 02:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


Hi, do you have any idea how to make a field in an infobox optional? For example I want to be able to leave out daylight savings time from the city box for Darwin. Thanks. --nixie 03:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

AFAIK, it is possible to create a "free label" or a blank parameter, but that wouldn't be possible for the DST thing because that's part of an existing parameter. That's partly the reason I held off from adding the infobox to non-DST cities. However, I looked at non-DST countries using Infobox Country, and saw that they just wrote not observed and figured it a reasonable compromise. Is that okay? We could always just simplify the time zone parameter and remove DST altogether. I've gone ahead and added it to all capital cities, and will probably roll it out to major regional cities like Newcastle and Geelong. By the way, thank you for your support in my Rfa! If I'm successful, I hope I won't prove your confidence in me wrong. Thanks again, :)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 16:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks!

Thanks for your message, I certainly will try getting involved in the Adelaide WikiProject. Hope to see you around! — mæstro t/c4 13:24, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


I hope I added good editions to the Michelle Leslie article. I had to add an opinion of my own. Molotov (talk)   03:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't see anything bad in your contributions to the article, although some of the photos and your formating was a bit odd. Are you certain the photos can be exhibited on Wikipedia? Simply amending copyright images doesn't make them public domain.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Advisory Committee

Hey Junkie! :) I just wanted to pop in to thank you for supporting me in the Advisory Committee Election. I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to do yet, but I trust that Essjay will be a good leader and let us know. And if he doesn't, I'll impeach him! ;o Take care (and good luck with your RFA nom). Acetic'Acid 21:16, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote of confidence in the Esperanza elections. I look forward to helping Esperanza and Wikipedia progress. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


i really appreciated some positivity after reading a lot of in-fighting and flailing around to find my way... I tripped a few times but thats ok with me. I went and voted for you as i was so moved by your welcome. on ya and i trust we are on similiar paths, sharing some of our energy and skills to the world for free, a cool thing to do. yes i must learn formatting etc and obey the rules, but there is a lot of room for interpretation and i cant be bothered wading to deep, so i'll just try and find an acceptable level and work there for a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mozasaur (talkcontribs) 01:20, 16 October 2005 (ACST)

Hi again Mozasaur! I'm happy you're keen on sticking around: the Wiki can be quite addictive! I know I'm hooked - a Wikipediholic. If you ever need any help or advice, feel free to ask me and I'll do my best. Oh, and don't forget to sign (with ~~~~) your postings. :)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Celestianpower is an admin

Thanks for the compliment and very much for your support, Cyberjunkie - my bid (as you probably know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I just hope I don't mess up! --Celestianpower hablamé 13:10, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! (combined)

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 06:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Trans-Tasman congratulations! I meant what I said in you rfa, BTW - you are one of the good guys and will be an excellent admin. Grutness...wha? 06:34, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Congrats on adminship Dlyons493 Talk 06:50, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on being strongly accepted as our first South Australian administrator. You deserve it. --Scott Davis Talk 09:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
  • As Han Solo says, "Great kid, now don't get cocky." - Diceman 14:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 03:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I would also like to extend to you my congratulations. Very well deserved. Cheers Ianblair23 (talk) 03:58, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • It was my pleasure. I look forward to working with you in future. Snottygobble | Talk 04:14, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Abso-freaking-lutely my pleasure as well. Welcome to the broom closet!!! You truly deserve it. - Lucky 6.9 04:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Good to see we have another responsible admin in our midst :-) Even if you do abhor evangelicalism... hey! - Ta bu shi da yu 03:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
    Thanks for the congratulations. And don't worry, my views on evangelicalism won't affect my work. In any case, having had to study religion most my life, I now find articles on it a frightful bore. I (mostly) get on fine with evangelists, too ;-). Thanks again,--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • you are quite welcome dude... enjoy the mop... theres a lot of cleaning to do.  ALKIVAR  05:20, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Brookie here - well done - enjoy the mop and bucket! :) ...en passant! 06:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Vcxlor here - well done - and hope you keep backward thinking wester(aussie)ners like myselfs in order! Enjoy! vcxlor 06:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Same here and all the best -- Iantalk 06:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Same again. If there's ever anything I can help with... Filiocht | The kettle's on 07:06, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations from the ice and snow. CambridgeBayWeather 09:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations, and thanks I wub you too! the wub "?!" 14:26, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


If you get time between your new duties, Sport in Australia is now the Australian collaboration which you voted for. We also need new nominations for the next round. --Scott Davis Talk 09:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

F1 Vandalsim

Hello there - thanks for reverting the F1 vandalism - did you catch all of this guys stuff? (IP dude if so, cool! - oh and hello! - nice to meet you, congrat.s on admin, and one small question..... is there any way for normal people like me to revert large scale vandalism like this when we spot it? - thanks! Petesmiles 10:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

  • just read your answer to the same question asked above... sorry for wasting space.... cheers... Petesmiles 10:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
That's okay! :) Thanks for the congratulations, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 10:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Your userpage

The Babel table is quite lovely, but doesn't work well in 800x600. Just wanted to let you know. - RoyBoy 800 05:01, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Unfortunately, not much on Wikipedia works well or looks good in 800x600 resolution. That's the reason why I abandoned it last year. I've tried formatting the table differently, but it didn't look great, so I'll think I'll keep it as is. Thanks again, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:39, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


Hawo! Thank you for the welcome message and that's how you sign your name off (a-ha 3 tildes!) Frances76 09:05, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


... for helping out with that vandalism yesterday. Snottygobble | Talk 02:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

That's okay :D--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Adelaide Institute

Hey Cyberjunkie, I did a bit of a rewrite on the Adelaide Institue article, which I see you pay close attention to. Did so because as far as I could see the original article was a bit scrappy. Hope you don’t mind.

In other news, I see you attend Flinders University. Good Job, what do you study. AdelaideRandel 04:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on that article. There are some formatting and NPOV issues to be attended to, but on the whole, it was a valuable expansion. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


Yes, trying Cyberjunkie - still trying to get the hang of it. You don't mind wikifying my 2 entries Woodville and Unley? Thanks Frances76 04:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll have a look over them. My earlier comment is withdrawn, I noticed you've started to fix them. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

How do I join the Adelaide project? Do I simply add my name to the page? Frances76 07:38, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Just follow this link, add your name, and save. Good to have another on board. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 07:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: St. Stephen's Girls' College

Thanks so much. Have done. :-) — Instantnood 09:27, 20 October 2005 (UTC)


Rather than fucking remove the article The Alphabet of Manliness, why not tell us your oh-so-overpowered opinion on the talk page? Do you even know Maddox? Then why the hell are you doing this? Just, I'm fucking mad now. You admins just don't let the article prosper, other people making it better in time. Yes, EVERY article starts off shit, IT NEEDS TIME TO GET BETTER. So every movie article, book article should be removed because it suggests people to start buying off their shit because it tells how good/bad it is? *sigh* Even mentioning a tradmerks etc. name, slogan is considered ADVERTISING.—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:21, 20 October 2005 (ACST)

Hello. Firstly, you'd do well to read and follow our Wikiquette and civility policies. I'm afraid there was nothing about that article that was appropriate for an encyclopædia, and it was accordingly deleted. To avoid having articles deleted, make sure you understand what is and isn't appropriate on Wikipedia. A good place to start would be to revise What Wikipedia is Not. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 12:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Why'd you deleted Not Proud?

Hey, just wanted to know why you deleted Not Proud. I know it was really short, but it wasn't spam. I mean, the site the article is about is similar to Group hug and then's definetly a valid article. So I was wondering if you could undelete it? Thanks -- 12:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Restored. It doesn't seem notable enough, but I'll let it be. An Afd might be appropriate.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 12:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! -- 12:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool

Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:CJ/Archive 5/monobook.js:

// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line 

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + '' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

popupShortcutKeys=true; // optional: enable keyboard shortcuts
popupAdminLinks=true;   // optional: enable admin links

There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin|talk|popups 23:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Which browser do you use? I may need to tweak things if they feel haphazard to you. Lupin|talk|popups 13:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
IE, and occasionally Mozilla. I think the haphardness was pronounced in IE.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, no surprises there. I've now installed IE thanks to wine so may be in a position to help. If you can reproduce haphazard behaviour semi-reliably, please tell me how and I'll see if I can too and try to fix it. In other news, I fixed a bug that only appeared in IE last night in the development version, so you may like to try that out and see if it's any better behaved. Thanks for your help! Lupin|talk|popups 13:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll try to give it a longer try over the next week and see if I can offer more descriptive feedback. The problems may just have been a by-product of my connection speed being throttled. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:39, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks, Cyberjunkie, you might already know me. Donama 08:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

In what sense? Personally? Or through your edits here?--Cyberjunkie | Talk 08:19, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Self bios

Gday have been doing random searches recently and have noticed quite a few not wiki arts - usually read like self bios. What's your opinion of what a non admin person like myself do? I have asked ambi as well, so I am hoping i might get a message back over this weekend. The example is 'Fats' if its still out there Is it better to let you folks know of them, than actually doing something? I have found about 4-5 in the last week vcxlor 11:51, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Ambi's already responded, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Royal Gibraltar Police

Hi Cyberjunkie. I just wanted to know what to do with this article. The "author" keeps on removing the copyright violation notice. Is that fair? --Ecemaml 15:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I've restored the copyvio notice and have left a note on Gibraltrian's talk page. If the edit war continues, I might protect the article.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:29, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Cyberjunkie, Ecemaml is an obsessive bigoted individual who appears to have a chip on his shoulder and an inferiority complex over Gibraltar. He has repeatedly vandalised the Gibraltar page in Spanish WP, and has ganged up with a few like minded spaniards to actually block the whole of Gibraltar from

He knows that he is abusing his position there, and is using the Gibraltar article to spout lies and propaganda about Gibraltar, which as you will understand is extremely offensive to the people of Gibraltar. The article is heavily POV, and there is a conspiracy to keep it that way. If he wishes to engage in Gibraltar bashing he should find another forum. This is not the place for that. There is no copyright on the article in question and he knows this, and is unable to prove otherwise. This is just another skirmish in his anti-Gibraltar campaign. He should be ignored. --Gibraltarian 14:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not interested in becoming involved in the conflict between the two of you. I will, however, tell you that being uncivil and violating policy is not going to help your case. There are a variety of ways in which you can resolve disputes, so the two of you should explore some of them. Most importantly, to avoid escalating the situation, remember to always remain civil and assume good faith (even if the latter is particularly difficult for you). With regards to Royal Gibraltar Police, the copy-vio notice should remain until it has been verified. It appears to me to be a violation, but I'll leave it to the regulars a Wikipedia:Copyright problems to decide. Thanks, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 14:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice, but assumig "good faith" on his part is impossible, as he has proved beyond doubt that he is acting out of pure malice and sour grapes. Thnx --Gibraltarian 14:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Not really

Look at the anonymous editing history of Australia, I believe that he was very persistent. If you disagree, feel free to unblock. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:18, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

request for assistance

I have left a delete this page notice on Ruth_crisp and I have re-created an article about the subject at Ruth_Crisp. who actually does the delete? does it require an admin? if so please feel free. Mozasaur 08:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Deletion is an admin-only capability, so yes, you would need one to delete the page. However, I've redirected it to Ruth Crisp instead. Pages like that are eligible for speedy deletion. If you come across or create a page that meets the criteria for speedy deletion, add a {{delete}} or {{db|explain rationale}} tag to the top.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Brisbane Coastal pages?

By the way I'm spending lots of time in Brisbane again very soon and I'm rally interested in adding to pages for the row of sand islands along the coast there, Stradbroke/Nth Stradbroke/Moreton Island, and perhaps Moreton Bay. I intend to go there and do heaps more photography etc, but info on camping and geology, flora and fauna would be good, i havent even checked yet but what categories are there for Australia for those topics? Mozasaur 08:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The only relevant categories I can think of are Category:Geography of Queensland and Category:Brisbane. There is also Category:Islands of Australia and Category:Beaches of Australia. I'll leave it up to you to decide which are appropriate. Happy editing, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:58, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Maryville Middle School

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryville Middle School appears in danger of being trumped by a conspicuous effort on the part of deletionists. Please review the nomination and vote at your convenience.--Nicodemus75 05:23, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're alerting me to this. It's not something I've previously been involved in. You wouldn't be spamming, would you?--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
I have only alerted you because you have expressed interest in the maintenance of school articles on WP in the past. It is merely a request for you to consider the AfD as an editor who has expressed interest in similar AfDs in the past. If you don't wish to look at it, or indeed, even if you wish to vote to delete it, that is fine - I just thought perhaps you might be interested.--Nicodemus75 05:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear God what have I done?

Sorry about the vandalization, but I was trying to remove someone's elses vandalization and I just moved and I don't know how that happened. but it's 4:47 in the morning here and I'm trying to do a report as well, so I probably overlooked something. But why did you use "continue to vandalize"? It was just one thing. This is, by the way.

That's okay. The "continue" thing was just in case you were a vandal intent on continuing.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 08:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

TV screenshots

Hi, I am not sure that the screenshots you have been uploading count as "fair use". I am under the understanding that screenshots are only fair use if included in an article specificaly critiquing or discussing the program in question, no to be used as illustratoin of the general topic (As is described in the fair use screenshot copyright tags). --Martyman-(talk) 09:28, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

The majority were uploaded before the extended definition was decided, and some even before {{film-screenshot}} was created. Admittedly, some probably don't qualify as fair use, but where no other images are yet sourced, I feel them appropriate.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Category rename

Hi, Cyberjunkie. I just noticed that we missed Category:Australian indigenous authors and poets when discussing the categories at WP:AWNB, and so it wasn't included in the rename vote. Would it be ok to consider it covered by the vote, or does it need to be listed now? JPD (talk) 10:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

It should be fine to go ahead and rename it without submitting it to CfD. If anyone has a problem with it, it is always reversible. Though, I don't see why anyone would. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 12:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

the wub's RfA

Thanks a lot for your support on my RfA, I really appreciate it. the wub "?!" 13:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


Thank you cyberjunkie for your vote. However, I would just like to inform you that Banes and I are currently in discussion with eachother over his decision. See [2] and [3]. Anyways thank you for taking the time to vote. :) --a.n.o.n.y.m t 19:06, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words

I'd have supported your nomination if I'd known about it. That's very kind of you! Tony 13:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


Hi, I've answering your question here, I hardly ever go to RFA, so don't know where to put it, you can paste it there if you know where it's supposed to go.

I only speak of my own experience and that which is on the FAC page. In his reply to question 3 he lists two cases both unresolved which seem to have similarities to my experience, an editor walks out (I did that), and another accuses him of introducing inaccuracies, but that was medical, so architecture is less important, no one is going to die from confusing a staircase with a wall (well I suppose the could), but I felt he wanted to alter the balance, quality, and emphasis,of the page so perhaps there are similarities there. You must decide that for yourself. I have not stalked his edits, so really you'll have to form your own opinion, as to if he is bombastic, I certainly felt he was. Giano | talk 10:07, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Giano. To keep the disussion coherent, I'll copy your reply to Tony's RfA. I hope you didn't feel I was attacking your vote. I respect your opinion. I was just hoping you might have been able to offer more information on the behaviour you think is inappropriate for an admin. I know Tony is fairly adament in his views on style (as am I, I suppose), but I haven't personally witnessed anything that might be described as "bombastic". I asked only because the objections have made me feel uncomfortable with my support, and I'm now leaning more towards neutrality, even though I congratulate Tony's efforts. I wanted to know, basically, if you think he is persistently "bombastic". Thank you anyway, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 10:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Realestate info

Hi. has some realestate details available by postcode here [4]. Not really as detailed as allhomes though. --Martyman-(talk) 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


Please tell me!vcxlor 15:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

HDI implementation/discussion now up!

Hello again! I hope you're well. Since you earlier expressed interest, I've finally completed the discussion piece for including the HDI in the infobox template. I think, once an agreement has been reached on details, various users can add the data to respective countries and enjoy the fruits of our collective labour!

Again, my apologies for the delay in 'getting this up', but I've been swamped. :) Anyhow, let me know if you've any questions and thanks again for your patience and input! E Pluribus Anthony 04:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the unblock Cyberjunkie! michaelg 05:15, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I second that. No wonder I couldn't find the address!  :) - Lucky 6.9 05:18, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Thank you for your Welcome on my talk page. I am still getting a grip on the etiquette on Wikipedia. This place is like a microcosim of the internet, except more organised. Perspicacity 09:13, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: Target

Thanks for the offer. I saw your Rfa recently but it was too late for me to support :( ... Clearly you didn't need my help there anyway ;)

But the vandalism situation isn't really that bad at the moment. If it gets substantially worse, I would appreciate your help very much. -- Daverocks 11:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

User Gibraltarian

Hi Cyberjunkie. I'd like to know which is the procedure to "denounce" user Gibraltarian. You can see what I consider not fair in and From my point of view, Gibraltarian is removing factual information and trying to present one side of the dispute as it was the truth. He goes on being rude ("Ecemaml go away" or "Removed irrelevant & incorrect nonsense") without any attempt to discuss disagreements in relevant talk pages. I could be wrong and being biased myself. Therefore, I'd like that some neutral administrator or mediator try to settle this absurd dispute. What do you recommend me? Many thanks in advance. --Ecemaml 12:17, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Short of actually assisting (I'm busy, sorry), I can direct you Wikipedia:Resolving disputes where you should find ideas on how to procede. If immediate assistance is required, please see the Administrators' Notice Board for Incidents. Sorry again, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:04, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem Cyberjunkie. I'm myself an administrator of es.wikipedia, so that I know it takes a lot of time. I'll go to the Administrators' Notice Board for Incidents. Many thanks --Ecemaml 15:49, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Railways on Adelaide colours

Cyberjunkie, I dislike the way the colours are on the railway lines in Railways in Adelaide for two reasons. I didn't undo it as you said you'd come back to it. Firstly, colouring the text of the wikilink hides whether there's actually an article behind it. Perhaps write the name of the colour after the link to the line, and colour that? Not sure how they do it for other cities. Secondly, have you got the right colours? I thought the Gawler Line was blue. Thanks for the glowing nomination for Admin by the way. --Scott Davis Talk 13:46, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll have to get back to this too, I'm afraid. Just briefly: similar formatting is used for the other Australian cities. It was a stop-gap measure 'til I have time to create templates. Oh, and you're welcome, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

29 October 2005 Delhi blasts

Please do contribution at 29 October 2005 Delhi blasts.
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your comment

Entirely inappropriate? I don't care any more. Tony 02:22, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Then withdraw, Tony. This spiral of yours may have been provoked, but you have continued it un-necessarily. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 02:26, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Please consider not coming over as bossy—just a few polite words, 'may', 'please', 'why don't you', sprinkled at appropriate points, rather than abrupt assertions starting with 'you have' or 'you are', or bald commands—that itself is unbecoming of an administrator. I find it unpleasant. Tony 09:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Tony, I'm not quite sure what to make of your comment. It seems awfully fickle and provocative. All I have done is make suggestions to you on how to procede in a situation you clearly find distressing. You did not respond to any of them. I'm afraid you need to understand that RfA is a community process, and you need to make your intentions clear. If you don't want adminship, or if you plan to leave - as you have repeatedly stated - then you need to withdraw your acceptance. Please try not personalise my comments. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:29, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

See the bit I struck out? That's the offensive part, but aside from that, your tone was much better. Please don't lecture me and we'll get on just fine, OK? I suggest that you think about the impact of your brusque, sometimes bossy language on other WPians now that you're a sysop, in particular, when you're trying to persuade them to do or not to do something. I'm sorry to be straight with you, but it's been irritating me for some time.

As for the substance of your message, I don't have enough respect for the system now to bother ending it early—simple as that. The longer it goes on, the more of a farce it becomes, and that's good, in my view, because it shows how wrongly conceived it is. Please note the messages toward the bottom of the RfA page and on my user talk page concerning the fact that because of this RfA, change will happen. I'm going to bed, so if there's any more to say, I won't answer until tomorrow. Tony 11:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC) PS I don't mind if you remove parts of this response after reading it.

Quite simply, Tony, I think you have double standards. I feel you expect of others what you don't of yourself. That's all I'm going to say, because I get the impression you can't take others' being "straight with you".--Cyberjunkie | Talk 11:39, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I find it hard to answer that without knowing what double standards you're referring to, and your assertions are not backed up by evidence. It's probably not productive to continue down that road. But I still have no indication of whether what I said about your language/tone has struck a chord. It's important if you're going to use your considerable admin skills to good effect. Tony 21:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

A different view

Hi Cyberjunkie,

Although I have no wish to become involved in this extremely unpleasant RFA, I have a strong desire to present an alternative view to Tony's view expressed above. In my opinion your behaviour since you became an admin has done you credit. From what I've seen you've maintained the balanced, polite and friendly approach to Wikipedia and your fellow Wikipedians that earned you adminship in the first place. Specifically, I think that your actions during this RFA have been entirely appropriate, and I hope that this difficult situation doesn't prompt you to change your approach to RFAs in future. Snottygobble | Talk 22:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Third way

Please comment @ Talk:Third_way_(centrism)#Page_move, thanks, Sam Spade 23:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


thanks for the revert of the vandalism on my userpage. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 03:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Same to you ;)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)


Hi. Sorry to see you're showing the pretty stressed sign. Your last comment on my RFA page was addressed to Kookykman, not to me, wasn't it? If I was into pointing sticks, I'd notice that of his <500 edits, five have an edit summary with "revert" in it, all on the same article, and he complains that too many people only watch their watchlist! That's less reverts than votes on RFA (9 users). --Scott Davis Talk 03:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

It was to Kookyman, yes. The stress is only partly influenced by Wikipedia. The majority is "real life" circumstance. Thanks, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear. I hope what ever it is can be resolved and return you to your usual self in quick order. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 03:18, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Lucky 6.9

Hi Cyberjunkie,

Lucky's left a list of his problems on his userpage. I'll handle the North Shore, California first, while you may want to take a look at the rest as well. :)

- Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:49, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Americanised dates

G'day Cyberjunkie,

I notice you changed (amongst other things) a date formatted as 2005-11-01 in order to "de-Americanise dates". It doesn't bother me one way or another (my preferences change all dates displayed to 1 November 2005 anyway), but I thought I'd point out that yyyy-mm-dd is not American. It's an international format, and (as I understand it) the idea is to stop people getting confused 'cos of the silly way Americans write dates.

The reason I personally tend to write yyyy-mm-dd because I have a nasty habit of transposing digits when writing dates, or of accidentally entering the wrong number (e.g. I think a typo of mine once resulted in readers thinking the Eureka Flag was created in the 20th century). By using an unfamiliar format I'm forced to take more care, and thus don't make that mistake as often.

Of course, if dates are properly wikified, it shouldn't matter (though there are exceptions). And, um, I've forgotten why I'm writing this now. But I had a reason, once, so it may be worthwhile to click "save". Um. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 07:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


I've been going through and making stubs for the eastern suburbs of Adelaide, but noticed the City of Cambelltown naming issue. I'm about to create "City of Cambelltown (South Australia)" if you don't mind so I can start making stubs and organise the suburb better.

Cheers, - >>michaelg | talk 03:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

(Butting in): both the LGA and the council websites seem to use Campbelltown City Council. I suggest you put a disambig link from the other one if possible, and update {{LGASA}} to contain the name you choose for the article. --Scott Davis Talk 05:24, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


Just a shout out to say thanks for all the gazillion edits you have done on Wikipedia. I have seen your comments on a stunning number of pages over the last few weeks, it's definitely making a difference. Remy B 06:51, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Enjoy your Wikibreak!

with best wishes for
deep calming breaths
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and your friends at  


Meant to be on a Wikibreak myself, but thought I'd stop by and leave you a calming pic. the wub "?!" 01:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats, and the glowing reference to start it off. I trust you enjoy your wikibreak and return to us with reduced stress levels (and good luck if exams are the cause).

My RFA only looks safe as I'm not interesting enough to have attracted a block of no voters like Tony1, Alphax or Haukurth. I hope I can live up to the trust and responsibilities I appear to be going to be given.

Anyway, enjoy your break. I'm planning a wikibreak of my own in a month or so. --Scott Davis Talk 04:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Enjoy your break! We certainly hope to see your return all relaxed and free! :) - Mailer Diablo 06:34, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Current events in Australia and New Zealand

Since you're on wikibreak, I took the liberty of archiving this to October 2005 in Australia and New Zealand. I also fixed the current events template for the archive (but didn't bother going back to earlier months) set up redirects for November 2005 in Australia and New Zealand and December 2005 in Australia and New Zealand so the current events template doesn't show redlinks.

I archived by cut and paste, as recommended in Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page, but I see that you normally moved the current page to the archive and then adjusted the result. The advantage of doing it my way is that people's watchlists don't unexpectedly get a new entry; the advantage of doing it your way is that the history goes with the archive and doesn't stay on the current page. I see the main current events page is archived your way, so feel free to continue in that manner in future.-gadfium 02:13, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I've now found Wikipedia:How to archive Current Events, but too late for this month.-gadfium 03:49, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for the wonderful copyedit - you've ironed out just about all the remaining issues with the article. Ambi 05:42, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm about to comment on its FAC.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:55, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit on Yarralumla. I am thinking about re-organising the history section with sub headings like nixie has suggested. I think it might help put some better order into it and might help with context. --Martyman-(talk) 09:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Australia portal

Hi on the Australia portal there is a factoid about the ACT rejecting self-government twice, I have only found information about one referendum in the 1970s, when was the other one?--nixie 05:46, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I didn't add that fact. I remember thinking it was odd when it was added by Alexs letterbox, but I let it be because I was just happy to see something new :). It's gone now.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Politics

I've put a notice on the Project page to suggest the Project be closed down. Shortly after starting it up I was away for over a month, and on returning realised that it's just too broad - looking at some of the more successful projects, they all focus on a narrow area were WP's content was significantly lacking and would therefore benefit from a concerted collaborative effort.

I do, however, intend to maintain the Portal and keep it updated. If you would like to help with this, drop a note at the Portal talkpage (or mine). I would like to set up a notice board of sorts to organise the efforts of those who want to keep the Portal going - apart from regularly showcasing new content and the news, those involved with the Portal can still help with things like voting for FA status and so forth, so it'd be good if you want to help out in this area. Thanks, and enjoy your Wikibreak, --HighHopes (T)(+)(C)(E)(P) 13:23, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Question: Why delete?

"12:53, 20 October 2005 Cyberjunkie deleted "Polish Hill River" (blatant copyvio)"

Now, I see that you're on a Wikibreak, that's fair enough, but I was just looking through old stuff, and it turns out that you deleted the Polish Hill River page. By "blatant copyvio" I assume you mean that its a 'blatant' infringement of copyright, now I was just wondering, why on earth would you think that? I created this article, by myself, and I can't understand how it was interpreted as a copyright infringement. Get back to me when you come back. Thankyou in advance.

l'australie sur le wikipédia français


i'm the contributor who recently changed the australia page to say that australia was not a continent. i am perfectly aware that it is commonly considered as a continent in australia but if you think about it, it doesn't really make sense and i at least in europe it isn't considered a continent at all. in fact, if you look at it, a continent is a vast stretch of land + a few islands around it. does this make australia + tasmania and a few other australian islands around it a continent? what happens to the other islands of oceania? are they another continent? why can't new zealand be considered a continent too then? or in that logic, what about madagascar? or the uk + ireland ? why aren't they continents too?

on the (french) "continent" page, australia isn't considered a continent. and on the "océanie" page it is considered as a part of this continent.

anyway, i don't know if you contributed largely to the english "australia" article (i guess there's a good chance you did though) but if you did, thanks a lot. you may have realised that the french article is looks a lot like the english one, that's cause it's a translation (which has a bit grown since though). i was the one who did it, having realised how poor the french article was. anyway, thanks a lot cause it's a good article and it saved me a hell of a time having all that well-built information at hand.

well, hope to hear from you on the wiki again, eek 19 november 2005 at 16:00 (CET)

This and that!

Hello! I hope you're well and enjoying your wikibreak (?). Thanks for fixing the Canada portal formatting; the thing I most hate are potentially arbitrary edits to rectify formatting ... and, of course, I have erroneously done this, too!

Of more substance, thanks for your prior vote to include the HDI in the country infobox/template. Things are moving: a discussion is well underway to finalise the precise arrangement and data so that this can be implemented. If you've already indicated a preference or have another, please comment there (and forgive me if you might have indicated to me previously your inability to comment further). I'm hopeful to close out this discussion in the next week (as a consensus seems to be forming) and to add the data to the relevant articles. If you are so compelled, weigh in ... or consider adding some data soon!

Thanks again, and take it easy! E Pluribus Anthony 23:10, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

TY!! :) E Pluribus Anthony 23:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for staying up late enough to revert the edit to my user page. I wonder what led Otto to look at it, let alone that it was his first logged-in edit. From his edits so far, my interests and his don't overlap much. Also thanks for the comments on the photos. I've got some for South Para Reservoir to put up sometime, too. --Scott Davis Talk 01:57, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Ianblair23's RfA

G'day CyberJ,

I do sincerely hope that you enjoying this much needed wikibreak and that you will come back eager as ever. The reason I'm here though is that I would like to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It closed with the final tally of 57/0/0. I can only hope I can live up to the expectations that this wonderful community of ours demands from each of its administrators. Cheers! -- Ianblair23 (talk) 02:27, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey cj

Hey cj, you arrogant prat, don't leave your moronic remarks on my talk page. I will revert anything I wish and as often as I like. We don't need petty dictators like you here trying to control what others do and think.

I'm afraid, quite bluntly, you have no rights. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege, and one that will be revoked if you do not follow our policies and guidelines. Please do not make personal attacks on other contributors. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins (that's me) or banned by the arbitration committee. Be civil. Given the nature of your message, I won't be too inclined to advise you in the future. Thank you.--cj | talk 23:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

You're welcome. Thanks for the offer; yes, I guess I'm ready. Whenever suits you suits me. Snottygobble | Talk 01:22, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Snowtown and Wolf Creek

Why did you delete the reference to the Snowtown murders in the Wolf Creek movie spiel? The movie producers have said that it is based on 3 sets of murders, primarily focussed on the one in 1999. That can only mean Snowtown. It can't be the backpacker murders, because they were done in 1992 and before then (I think the first of them may have been in 1988 or something). You didn't give any explanation for why you were deleting it. Do you dispute the factual accuracy of it? Is it because it is only a logical conclusion that it must be based on the Snowtown murders, since no other major murder was committed in 1999? I dispute the assertion that it is primarily based on the backpacker murders. A large number of media outlets have similarly disputed it, because the person in Wolf Creek did not act in any way similar to how Ivan Milat is supposed to have acted. He tortured people and such. That is what happened in the Snowtown murders, and nowhere else. It can't be anything else. Please can you restore the edits. I am writing here to avoid an edit war. P.S. I had already explained this during my edit. 10:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't use an edit summary (I'm on Wikibreak and am thus lazy), and thank you for contacting me. I removed it because, whereas the producers have actually acknowledged the influence of backpacker murders and Falconio, Snowtown is pure speculation and considerably doubtful. But you are right that it wasn't primarily based on any particular incident. If you can provide a valid reference indicating the influence of Snowtown, then I'm not opposed to its mention in Wolf Creek. It's rather inconsequential to the actual Snowtown murders article, however. As an aside, have you considered creating an account? Thanks,--cj | talk 14:08, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

WG Aus-Feature

Well, I'm honoured! Thanks! Cheers, -   >>michaelg | talk 13:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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