User talk:Bhadani/Archive06

Defense of content

Hi Bhadaniji - As you said that you are studying the proposal, I ask for your help in making this a practical, realistic solution and correcting its problems. You are an experienced administrator, and I definitely need an administrator's input. I will immediately incorporate any suggestions you give that can make this a workable policy. I honestly feel that this is a good idea, but to build a consensus, I need your help. Rama's Arrow 16:32, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

My study and contemplation over the matter and issues raised are almost over – I shall present them tomorrow. --Bhadani 16:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, so I forgot today too. --Bhadani 17:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Wrote something there, though not conclusive. --Bhadani 15:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting on my RfA, it passed with a final tally of 68/0/0 so I'm now an administrator. If there's anything I can do to help, you feel I've done something wrong, or there's just something you want to tell, don't hesitate to use my talk page. Thanks. - Bobet 10:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Idleguy

Bhadani, thank you for your queries on the nomination page. I left a response for you at Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Idleguy. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your exhaustive comments and Idleguy’s similarly elaborate clarifications. I read the discussion very carefully, and also understood the issues to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps matter does not require my comments, so I am maintaining a considered silence as silence is sometimes more musical then music! The issues have perhaps been sufficiently dealt with: we are here for fun and enjoy our wiki-existence. So cheers and let us continue our work here to create the sum total of human knowledge. --Bhadani 16:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I think you misunderstood. Fun is not allowed. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Now, you are making fun of me and I am enjoying it without any remorse like a shameless creature trapped inside the project wikipedia. Actually, I have used the word fun in the sense of enjoyment which one gets while working here, and not in its literal sense. I like the crispness and the professional attitude, which you display. Now, please do not tell that Bhadani is joking! I am very serious in the most serious sense!! --Bhadani 17:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Bagha Jatin

Could you please see the article Bagha Jatin and its talk page (and also the history) ? Some disputes going on that page.See if you can comment and mediate.Thank you.--Dwaipayanc 08:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. Right now, it is getting late in India. Ishall see it very carefully very soon. --Bhadani 17:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanx...

...for your and Rama's support on my adminship. I personally don't see it as a war for adminship. I rather view it as another interesting phase with editors (some I have hardly met or interacted with before) expressing their views, both for and against me. I think that if a person is judged on what transpired in the past then I'm afraid if I run for the post even after 1 year, the situation wouldn't change. Interestingly, atleast one editor who voted oppose - Anonymous editor - was accused of serious abuses and POV warring against other editors (more serious than mine) during his first unsuccessful nomination for adminship and just 2 months later his past deeds were forgotten. My incidents took place 3-4 months back and yet a sizeable number of the editors have voted negatively. Hmmm....

So my take on this is that irrespective of what changes you make, when you stand for adminship for the first time you are odds on favourite to lose - unless one is goody goody or is involved in editing humdrum articles - then come back to win the second time around. The second time you are forgiven even within weeks, but if one makes changes the first time itself, it is seen as suspect. And I've seen this happen on more than a couple of times, so I'm not making any pessimistic statements. I've observed this even in real life. My odds of winning right now are as good as Scotland lifting the Cricket World cup :P , but since you guys want the nomination to continue, we'll see. But more than adminship, it's the thrill of editing Wikipedia that I am here for. Cheers. Idleguy 03:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

This is the precise reason that so many good people live wikipedia. Who knows if such stubborn attitude persists, I may also decide to live. I am a very well settled person, and may pass my time in something still better than adjusting to whims and fancies of persons who have the attitude of holier than thou! --Bhadani 13:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I won't leave Wikipedia unless i become "un-idle" (gulp!) and being an ordinary editor would actually enable me to contribute to articles instead of cleanup work etc. So if there is a positive consensus, we'd have one more admin for India related articles. If not, I'd still be editing the way I was - idleness permitting. In this case, I'm an eternal optimist so ANY result will be a good one. :-) The only thing disconcerting during the voting process is the double standards adopted by some editors. Idleguy 03:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not worried at all - I am simply surprized! --Bhadani 11:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thermal power station

How the referred para has been deleted is not clear. Can you please help with information given below??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:61.17.198.138

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Thermal power station

How the Headline text came in the place of Generator excitation system is not clear to me. The relevant para also was about this subject. Can you explain? --Dore chakravarty 02:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

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--Dore chakravarty 05:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Issue resolved. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words on my talk page. I truly appreciate well thought-out comments like that :) Nach0king 09:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi

Hello. This has reference to your message to Nichalp. As per my information , festival of Holi is on 15th March 2006, preceded by Holika Dahan a day before. Greetings on Holi. --Bhadani 17:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, Bhadani. I'll post this holiday on the MainPage for March 15. Happy Holi to you, too. --PFHLai 17:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Meeting u- Thermal power station

Leaving to Chennai on 30th May as it stands today. Shall contact u from there. Still busy on Engineering Wiki. Meanwhile help possible??

--Dore chakravarty 18:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

It is fine - but the possibility of my transfer to Kolkata is in the offing - though my family shall be here in Chennai until December 2006. Give me a week's notice, I will go to anywhere in India to meet you. Thanks. --Bhadani 18:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thermal power station

Thank you for the help. Edit got corrected somehow. Noted sbout your transfer for good. Shall be leaving NZ(Auckland) to Chennai on 30th May for about two months. Shall contact you, from there also. May not be very active there due to my movements.

--Dore chakravarty 19:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you! Hi Bhadani/Archive06, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 21:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

It was uggested that I got in touch with you.I am very new to Wiki.I hope to learn as I go on.It would be something as I am computer illiterate and just about browse.

Nobel winners are all listed here.But what about America's most prestigious honour after Nobels i.e. Fellowship of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.Quite a few remain unlisted I note.I was intrigued to note that the Academy has 175 Nobel Laureates on its roll at present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vr (talk • contribs) of 4th March 2006

Great idea. We should find out more and try to create at least stubs of few paragraphs. --Bhadani 11:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Transwiki

Hi,

As a part of Wikiproject Stub sorting, I came across these pages fit enough to be transwikied to Wictionary. Unforunately I didn't understand the procedure even after reading the help pages. Can you help me. The pages are:

• Tocsin
• Diligence

(Both of them are already listed on Wictionary but Wikipedia entries have constructively more to add.) -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings

Below is appended my greetings being sent to some of the fellow wikipedians on the occasion of Holi:

Hi, I am wishing you a happy Holi, the unique Hindu celebration of color and brotherhood among all members of the humanity. The festival falls on 15th March 2006. I have collected A Gift Pack of Quotationsfor you contained in the sections DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY and SOMETHING MORE, which are part of the on-going discussion pertaining to my nomination of Idleguy for adminship. You are aware of the tradition that if you throw colored water on flames of burning Holika, you enable a Prahlad to emerge from the flames!!! I again convey Holi greetings to you and your family!!! --Bhadani 14:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank You for your greetings! --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 15:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi! Rama's Arrow 15:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your greetings! I wish you a mast Holi !!--Dwaipayanc 17:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Holi greetings and I wish you the same. A minor correction: I live in Bombay and not in Goa :) And I notice a photo on your user page... :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Holi greetings. Wish you and your family the same. BTW leaving wikipedia? Sorry to hear that. Please reconsider that. Regards.Jisha C J

Thank you for your Holi greetings. Same to you and your loved ones. Hope you stick around Wikipedia. Take care. -- PFHLai 01:47, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Another thanks. And ummm... Don't GO! DaGizza^{Chat ©} 01:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

I'm stepping in to mediate the dispute between you and AE. Let's cut out the drama here as it won't be doing any good to anyone, or the project. Firstly, rest assured, I know your intentions of the Holi greetings were noble, but they were horribly mismatched and mistimed. This is what AE was trying to raise, but he did not tactfully do it, and you misunderstood him.

Placement: The quotations were placed on the talk page of Idleguy's RFA talk. Since you had linked the greetings on everybody's talk to an RFA talk page, it is seen as a tacit canvassing for votes. This issue has been brought up many times before so please don't think that it applies to this particular case only.

Timing: Holi is still a few days away and idleguy's nomination has still to be ended. RFAs are a sensitive issue and any slight misendemors by the candidate or the nominee often lead to a slew of oppose votes.

Please reconsider leaving, it is not a personal attack, its just a round of misunderstood words. I shall speak to AE soon. Also, I suggest that you do not reply to further posts on the RFA, let Idleguy handle fight the matter for the community to judge him.

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

What the....

Bhadaniji, I know you are angry at AE and frustrated with Wikipedia's functioning problems, but you are the last person I ever thought would throw in the towel. Please don't go - this would be a very serious loss indeed for all of us.

I support you - I don't believe you did anything wrong (and definitely that you never desired to do anything illegitimate). Life always questions and pokes at the most important and emotional issues to each of us, and its pure courage to keep living despite any/all provocation. Rabindranath Tagore told Gandhi that even if nobody listened to him or followed his ideas, he should stick at it himself. Gandhi did not leave despite having literally millions of opponents. So why should AE or anybody else cause you to leave?

Its never acceptable to back down from what one loves to do or believes in. Even if you are completely ostracized, never quit. Please calm down and know that you are the most highly-respected Indian on Wikipedia - the captain of our ship. Rama's Arrow 18:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Bhadani, I agree with Rama here. I really admire your contributions to wikipedia, and you are the epitome of politness. To be frank, you are the most polite wikipedian I've ever met here. Please don't get angry at AE's words. Remember, there were hundreds of people who spoke ill of Gandhiji, but he stuck to his way of politeness, because in the end, truth and politeness triumphs everything. So, drop the matter, and Move on. Thanks. --Ragib 18:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course, I strongly agree with Rama's Arrow and Ragib. There's no doubt on the very high respect you command. deeptrivia (talk) 19:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Just thought I should share this here:

"When another person makes you suffer, it is because he suffers deeply within himself, and his suffering is spilling over. He does not need punishment; he needs help. That is the message he is sending."

The Heart of Buddha's Teachings by Thich Nhat Hanh

deeptrivia (talk) 04:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Bhadani-You forgot to look around.

I didn't expect you to react so strongly. Perhaps things got heated up in the Idleguy's RfA. Roses are beautiful, but this doesn't mean we hug them because then the thorns will start hurting us. This is quite similar to human relations. You got so much involved in the RfA that it started hurting you. Sometimes it is advisable to see the roses from the distance. They are targeting one Idleguy, but you have the potential of making a thousand. Look around...there are people like us who are there looking for your help. There is a difference in the job of the gardener and the florist. The gardener tends and cares for the roses to make them fit for the best bouquet, while the florist arranges them to look perfect. Adminship is akin to the job of gardener while RfA voting is akin to florist. I strongly believe that you are a gardener first. You have the job of helping buds like us to become the best roses.

काजल की कोठरी में कितनो ही सयानो जाये,

एक लीक काजल की लागी है पे लागी है।

I can describe RfA as best this "काजल की कोठरी". Howsoever good a person is, someone is bound to try and make him/her dirty.

You have to take the decision whether you want Wikipedia, or you want politics. I am sure you will choose Wikipedia. Wikipedia has something known as Wikignome who are people working tirelessly to make things better without clamouring for attention. But I believe that we all at Wikipedia are gnomes in the sense that 99% of the people who read our work won't care to find out who wrote it. Fitting as it sounds, we all should actually work as gnomes. Take my advice, and start working for the betterment of wikipedia by doing good work and tending good roses. Be an eventualist...in the end, everyone will live happily ever after.

My stay in Wikipedia has taught me two things:

1. Keep you cool, and
2. Don't feed the trolls.

Hope you understand what I mean.

BTW, until you transwiki the articles that I requested you to, don't even think about leaving. And you are not the one who should be forgetting his new-year resolution so soon. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your support of my RfA

Thank you for your support of my successful request for adminship. I am honoured that the nomination was supported unanimously and that the community expressed confidence that I would use the tools wisely. If you have any concerns please let me know on my talk page. Regards A Y Arktos 20:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Greetings

Happy Holi to you! --BostonMA 01:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Greetings

Happy Holi to you! --BostonMA 01:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your greetings - let the colors of Holi permeat to all the segements of Wikipedia to make it truly reflective of the sum total of human knowledge. I completely agree with the comments on your page. Please see this also. Thanks again for your support and kind words: yes, you conveyed very silently the crux of the issues without creating any noise. --Bhadani 07:47, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

• See also Industrial Sabotage of Wikipedia

Thanks

I record my deep appreciation to the fellow wikipedians, particularly to BostonMA, Ambuj.saxena, Deeptrivia, User:Rama's Arrow, User:Jishacj, and old friends like Ragib & Nichalp whose kind words gave me courage to continue working for building the sum total of human knowledge. I as a Wikipedian (thanks to User:SlimVirgin for collecting the Ten Commandments for being an Ideal Wikipedian) shall not allow a section of people to disrupt the credibility of wikipedia. --Bhadani 08:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Keep up the good work...and don't forget my transwikification requests. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I knew you wouldn't leave us. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest you to try your luck in astrology. Righto? I was so infatuated with your work on Goa that I forgot that you were in Mumbai – before the floods, during the floods, and after the floods. --Bhadani 10:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome. :) And regarding the question whether I have enjoyed Holi, yes I had a nice experience in Delhi during Holi with friends. Jisha C J 10:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm extremely pleased. Come on back and enjoy Wikifun. I'm just running for admniship, not the President of Earth!! So let's keep things in perspective and just have fun. :-) Regards,Idleguy 13:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your magnanimity and kind words. My reaction, termed as over-reaction, was in response to remarks by some one who has perhaps no knowledge of the Indian culture, heritage, and tradition. I treat myself as a citizen of the world and also try to behave like one. Having said this, after all how many civilizations on the Earth has a continuous history as old as the Indian civilization and how many countries in the world has the cultural and ethnic diversities which we find here? As such, reactions by someone not familiar with different cultures create a cultural divide resulting into so many avoidable interactions. This had also happened during the time when Culture of Asia was undergoing through the process of Article Improvement Drive. Moreover, you may have heard the proverb: Guilty mind is always conscious! Accordingly, there are people who are adept at imputing motives to every deed and every word of others. When I encounter such fellows, I remember the words of Sir Winston Churchill: I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. At the same time, Churchill has also told: WE SHALL FIGHT. Yes, We shall continue to keep a watch in all the nooks and corners of Wikipedia to make wikipedia truly the sum total of human knowledge, and ensure that its credibility is not sabotaged by persons interested in disrupting the Project and driving out & away the genuine volunteer-editors and perhaps recruiting editors susceptible to pulls and pressures. By the way, we are not here for fun but doing something serious! --Bhadani 14:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Bhadani,

Could not reply as I was on a break (from college as well as wikipedia) for 2 days. Thanks for the Holi greeting.

Seems that a lot happened when I was away. I am glad that you decided to stay here. We all need you. There is no point saying much more, as whatever I want to say has already been said by my fellow wikipedians. - Aksi great 14:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

This and that

Bhadaniji, it was with a heavy heart that I saw Nirav's message on my talkpage today morning. I had some pressing engagements to go out and couldn't write to you immediately. However, I did feel that you wd be back, and you are - such a relief to me. I haven't yet gone through the exchange you had with anonymous, but I'll do so and let you know as to what I think of it. My "ji" in the first line is after seeing your photograph, and learning that you are elder to me - I consider myself doubly lucky to see Rashmiji's photograph as well. I have corrected a spelling mistake on both your user page as well as talkpage. And btw, in case you did not know it, you complete the list of most edited user talkpages - see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-02-27/News_and_notes and User:Gmaxwell/report for raul654. Best regards, --Gurubrahma 15:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. Is it so? I saw my name at the last - I feel really happy to see my name. I am also feeling happy to be around. The credit goes to Sir Winston Churchill as well as to Nichalp. By the way, you feel happy to see my our photographs - we Wikipedians may organize get-together from time to time in different parts of India. --Bhadani 15:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if you saw this already but I may not be able to make it on that date. --Gurubrahma 16:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, please feel free to give me your impartial and free and frank opinion and comments about my interaction with anonymous. I would love to improve my ability to be part of a vibrant community like wiki-community. Thanks. --Bhadani 16:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sure, in a couple of days. --Gurubrahma 16:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

National dish

Any progress...? --BorgQueen 15:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding - actually, I got involved in certain other issues. We indian Wikipedinas shall build a consensus soon. I am initiating the process soon. --Bhadani 16:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Tandoori chicken ;) as my North-Indian friends say. I am a veggie though. btw, I have given comments in the above sections as well with this edit. --Gurubrahma 16:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Me too a vegetarian: so we have one more thing in common. Yes, Tandoori chicken appears to be good choice, even popular in South India I believe. --Bhadani 17:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

thank God

Hi Bhadaniji - I'm very grateful that you came back this soon. I was worried about the possibility that we would lose you for a few weeks or months. You should always know that everyone here has immense respect for you. You are extremely valuable to Wikipedia and a vital support to other users.

I just feel that you should never, ever stop doing something you are passionate about over the opinions of others. Even if a day comes when everybody is against you, you should stick at it. If you feel yourself involved in a difficult position, you can address the issue directly, and you should know that most people here will listen respectfully. This is even more important becoz you are an administrator, and so you must tackle difficult issues directly. I never saw any error in what you wrote, although I knew immediately that someone like Anon could cry foul. I also feel that one should work on Wikipedia purely for knowledge - you should not worry about other things so much.

Your Wiki-birthday is close - there are so many achievements to celebrate! You are the inspiration and support of so many. Indeed your consistent compassion and positivity has inspired my transformation into a positive Wikipedian, as well as in my personal life. Thank you, and please don't consider leaving Wikipedia as a solution for any issue. Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 17:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Once you had called me Rama - a human can not be a God, but you may have heard a verse from the Bible: God made his son (that is, the human being) in his own image. I also congratulate you to be there with Gurubrahama: Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-02-27/News_and_notes and User:Gmaxwell/report for raul654. Best regards. BTW, I have resolved to fight back and ensure that the Project wikipedia do not get defiled ever. We shall now pay the disruptive elements in their own coins, as we owe this to the donors who fund the Wikipedia Foundation. We have to keep the goodwill and the trust of the donors, and for this WE SHALL FIGHT. Yes, We shall continue to keep a watch in all the nooks and corners of Wikipedia to make wikipedia truly the sum total of human knowledge, and ensure that its credibility is not sabotaged by persons interested in disrupting the Project and driving out & away the genuine volunteer-editors and perhaps recruiting editors susceptible to pulls and pressures. We should move toward the direction of arranging a wiki-meeting of wikipedians in India, under the sponsorship of Wikimedia Foundation, inviting people from other countries. --Bhadani 17:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Glad that the crisis went off before I came back after weekend. I'd want you to never leave this place. We'll definitely arrange a meeting of Indian wikipedians. Happy Holi. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:25, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: Proverbially speaking, when the Rome was burning, Nero was playing flute and you were enjoying the weekend! God is Great! I feel happy too find myself again in the company of fellow wikipedians like you all. Let me tease you a bit:. (signed/Bhadani)

Help please!

Sorry to bother you.How would i delete my history,contributions? Obvioulsy i would still like my articles to stay but i would like to delete my history. Thank youIan Davies Friend 19:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian Davies Friend (talk • contribs)

Nice to meet you. However, I would request you to kindly tell me the precise reason why yuou want that to be deleted? Of course, if you do not mind please! --Bhadani 13:16, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Simply because i have so much history/contibutions!Of course i have edited some things i have wrote and would like them not to be seen again as they are not useful anymore and have edited them.I only want to keep my present contribution on hare coursing.Of course if you do not wish to delete it then so be it.Again thanks! Ian Davies Friend 19:03, 6 March 2006 (UTC)ian davies friend

Holi greets

Thanks for the GREETS. Same thing to you and family. Since we are not going out much, what happens outside is a blank to us. However my mrs remembers all of these and she has very good memory too. She always refers to panchangam frequently. She can also speak many languagers. How can we forget Holika? We had a very nice time in our qurters living in Gujarat, having all these festivals. Hope to meet you in June beginning.

--Dore chakravarty 20:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greets

Sorry. I made a mistake in my message which came to my notice after I saw the photo in urs.

--Dore chakravarty 20:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanx

thumb|right|"Munh Dikhai" Dear Bhadaniji, what an excellent idea to let us have a Paarvai of our very own friendly neighbourhood wiki-Jesus. I couldn't let it pass without proferring some (inadequate) Munh Dikhai, and expressing the hope of some day beholding the Sakshatkar. If all this chortling does not suggest the matter, let me also duly profess my profound regard for you, and my delight at finally making it to your greeting-list. I had feared that my initial unresponsiveness had put me on your black-list for good, but hopefully it is not so. I am largely away these days, and that explains this delay in responding to your message. Happy holi, and do let us KIT. Your foremost chela, ImpuMozhi 01:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Clarifications: ImpuMozhi knows the North India or rather all-Indian tradition very well. Munh Dikhai means the "gift one gives to some one, particularly to a young bride or boy after seeing her face for the first time. Its literal meaning is: "to see the face". He is referring to My Munh Dikhai or Her Munh Dikhai? I thnak him for parting with Rs. 120. I will pay back him in the same coins. Hahahha. Jhute Bole Kauwwa Kate? (The crow shall bite you if you tell lies!) - words of a famous song of a film Boby by Raj Kapoor. --Bhadani 14:04, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Bhadaniji

Please don't consider leaving at all! You're contributions are very highly regarded, and the community views you as a friendly and constructive editor. I know that RfA discussions are often heated, as we often have strong feelings that are expressed there. I look forward to your further contributions! -- Samir ∙ ^T_C 01:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

And happy Holi to you as well! -- Samir ∙ ^T_C 01:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

From Badagnani

Greetings from Ohio and thank you for your note! How are things there? This evening we had a concert of traditional music of Mali (West Africa) at my university and took the musicians for North Indian food afterwards. I had Punjabi chole with puri. Our waiter was a funny man from Goa. Thank you again for your invitation to visit South India. I hope I may do that one day. There will be a music conference in Chennai in about 1 year but I'll need to win the lottery first to be able to go. ha ha. Happy editing, Badagnani 06:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Funny that our edit counts are almost exactly the same. But we rarely edit the same pages. Badagnani 06:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Lothal FAC

Hi Bhadaniji - could you please keep an eye on Lothal's FAC - I'm a bit worried that after 6 days of review, with a 10-0 support vote, its not been promoted yet. Rama's Arrow 13:58, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Sardar Patel is in Peer Review - I request your advice and help. Rama's Arrow 16:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes sure. --Bhadani 16:49, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Self-improvement

With a view to improve my wiki-existence, I am in the process of comunicating with a cross section of Wikipedians (including the administrators) with the following request:

Hello from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. Thanks. (signed/Bhadani)

Ghori page

The Ghori page has been edited by two more people since your last edit. I am sorry if my edits were unacceptable. I just corrected a spelling and right link in that page. Siddiqui 19:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Response to your message

Hello and happy Holi. I received your message and from looking at your talk page and the last few contributions you have made, I agree that you are a great and constructive editor. Obviously you are respected by many, particularly the Indian wikipedians, and though I don't know if we have edited a lot of the same pages, I believe I have seen your name before and you have always seemed like a good contributor. I should mention that you made a mistake in your message, saying that you became an administrator in 2006 when you meant 2005. I corrected that mistake on my talk page and your talk page. Anyway, you seem like a very friendly and hard-working person, so keep up the good work. Although I have never been to India, I have a lot of interest in Indian history and culture and have edited some Indian topics, particularly the politics, and it is good that that area of the Wikipedia is growing. Academic Challenger 00:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. You are most welcome to India. --Bhadani 15:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the Holi greetings, Bhadani..here's wishing you the same. Glad to see you back in action! AreJay 03:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I liked your metaphor. :-) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 04:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks a lot for your encouraging message.I should be delighted to try and work on the members of American Academy of Arts and Sciences especially the Indians who have made it to the list.I would very much welcome your guidance as to how to go about the exercise.Regards(Vr 05:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC))

Holi greetings to you too

Thanks for the Holi greetings, Bhadani. Wish you the same. -- Rgds, ΜιĿːtalk 09:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Indian Wikipedians

Mail me at hpnadig AT gmail DOT com. I currently have populated a list of long time Indian contributors who had shown interest in Indian Chapter. The focus is more on Indian languages projects than the English Wikipedia. The plan is to hold an IRC meeting soon. Cheers, --H P Nadig * ^{\Talk \Contributions} 10:10, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Greetings

Many Happy Holi Greetings, my Vegetarian Friend! Thanks for remembering me. Also: glad to hear you decided to stick around! --Smithfarm 11:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (66/2/3), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! Stifle 17:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Bhadani, thank you for the RAoK barnstar. I sure appreciate it. :) I knew you wouldn't leave us in the lurch. It was a good thing that I noticed it right away, things might have been a little different otherwise. As bureaucrat, I do have to intervene when things get ugly in the RFA area. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. The things did not go ugly at the RfA - it was forced to become ugly by persons who are having strong personal likes and dislikes, and who fail to understand the cultural divide. Such persons, in the long run, may directly or indirectly/ intentioanlly or unintentionally sabotage the project. --Bhadani 15:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

re:Maramarama.... (lol!)

Hehehe...when Bhadani was jawan, Rama was not even born (pun intended....). Maybe like the "birthdays committee" idea, we can create a "Hasya-Kavi sammelan" (poetry and humor), helping folks to smirk and unwind. Rama's Arrow 16:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Rama was always there - Rama was not born. I say great mara-mari in case of that Alasi Boy , I mean Idleguy. He is really Ideal. --Bhadani 16:59, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of the RfA: apart from SV, Mel Etitis and AE's criticism, I think there was a real concern about Idleguy's "civility." I know that he is a straight-shooter (the kind I respect infinitely), but maybe others feel a little put-off by his lack of flowery word use. I feel a bit disappointed with myself over the way this RfA was conducted - in the sense, Idleguy's desire to be an admin should propel the RfA - instead it was hijacked by his detractors and supporters alike. I think we should let Idleguy be Idleguy, and same for all others - I don't think we should push RfA on anybody unless they really want to do the job. Rama's Arrow 17:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, there was a sense that Idleguy should have apologized about his conflicts with SV and AE beforehand, as a definitive gesture of his change. I don't think anybody should be forced to apologize at risk of their principles just to establish in the minds of some that "I'm civil, a respectful guy." Rama's Arrow 17:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you are presenting the things generally in the right perspective. This RfA really taught me a number of lessons, and I could learn about the ascendancy of a set of people whose repeated harping on the same issues reminded me of Joseph Goebbels. I do accept that civility was an issue, but it was blown out of the proportion and we massively digressed from the point that we have assembled here to create the sum total of human knowledge and not attending a party with a lot of hi, hello, and cheers! With due regards to all concerned, I am afraid that each such encounter saps the real volunteers editors of their desire to be a part of the project, albeit editors paid by some organizations would surely continue to be disruptive - my words presuposses goodfaith similar to the declaration on Jumbo Whales' talk page!!! --Bhadani 17:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

As long as we're talking of this, I wonder at some potential avenues for problems. For example, the discussions between you, Gurubrahma, myself and others on suitable Indian admin candidates - some people can accuse us of attempting to create a cabal, can't they? I wonder if the entire nomination for adminship thing should be entirely between a choice candidate and his prospective nominator. I was especially struck (positively) by the comment of a guy who opposed Idleguy's RfA - adminship is not a reward for good users. We talked about 5-6 people who can do the job, but its perhaps not good to deal with such questions in this manner. Just some thoughts... Rama's Arrow 17:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

To finish my perhaps mis-timed, inappropriate thoughts - I strongly want to see Deeptrivia as administrator. He's already doing a lot good work fighting vandals/-ism, welcoming users and on the wikiprojects and portal:India. Credentials-wise, he's all there. I don't think we should hesitate to move on his RfA after March 24, despite all the issues recently faced. Rama's Arrow 17:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I perhaps contradict above my own desire to "let the river flow." All respect to Deeptrivia's own freedom to chose. Rama's Arrow 17:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

If they choose to do so, they can certainly do so and create problems - but do not we require more administrators familiar with the topics related to India? We never talkd in terms of administrators who are Indians, we are talking about administrators who are well versed with matters pertaining to India and the Indian subcontinent. Do not you feel that people unaware of the matter has created a redirection link from Pataliputra to Patna, and from the Indian subcontinent to South Asia - they do not know the differences actually. Do such simple issue require building of consensus? We shall not be creating anything like a cabal, we are trying to create a pool of talents to give wikipedia a better coverage, and add to the sum total of human knowledge. However, I surely feel that perhaps several cabals may be operating in wikipedia and some of them may be trying to damage the Project. Now, the matter of Idleguy's RfA stands closed for the time being, and let us concentrate on the main work of building the Project. By the way, repeated failures of nominations from India shall be indicative of the cablas operating inside wikipedia to harm the long term interest of wikipedia. Please ask Deep - is he ready now? I will seaprately ask him too. He can not escape beyond 2th March 2006. --Bhadani 18:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

revisionist history

Hi Bhadaniji - I want to ask you a few questions, with the intention of learning how to deal with some serious issues. I'm worried about a rising trend of revisionist history on matters relating to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. We are obviously aware in the traditional propaganda-pushing, but this is different.

For example, I think "Indian subcontinent" - "South Asia" is a perfect example. There are people objecting to "Indian subcontinent" perhaps becoz they don't want to be identified with anything "Indian." On Political integration of India, there was an editor insisting to describe India as "self-governing," and not "independent" after August 15th, 1947 - I don't think his intent was malicious or ideological, however. We know that nationhood consists of more than politics and government - but there are many to choose to identify the existence of India as of a political entity - thereby asserting that India as a country did not exist prior to 1947. If its "partition of India," its partition of "British India." All this is hauntingly akin to Jinnah's assertion of the Two Nation Theory.

How do we deal with such issues? Is it enough to work case-by-case, arguing technically, or is there a need for a wider discussion on Wikipedia? Rama's Arrow 18:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

To add, as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia must not be a theatre for revisionist history, becoz it has no authority to alter interpretation and re-tell facts and events as they are. Fringe elements must not so easily modify long-standing norms and accepted terms, definitions, events. Rama's Arrow 18:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

As notified on Jumbo Wales talk page and at various other places, I am an adherent to and always assume good faith, and keeping in view utmost good faith, I may further add that when users and editors inimical to wikipedia’s long term interest (and recruited or enrolled with a view to lower the credibility of wikipedia) get into ascendancy, you will find the trend you are describing. Ultimately, it will make wikipedia like any useless blog, instead of a true encyclopedia reflective of the sum total of human knowledge. --Bhadani 12:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:user hindu

As an administrator, please have a look at this deleted template. I don't know why it was deleted nor the basis for such deletion, especially when religion-based userboxes are abound across Wikipedia. Will it be ok if I or anybody else re-create a Hindu users template? Rama's Arrow 18:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

You may discuss the issue at the talk page of the template. I do not find any reason there - it may have been done with some reason, though I am unable to understand the same. --Bhadani 12:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I think most of the userboxes are going to be deleted one by one, as they perhaps do not serve much purpose. --Bhadani 12:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hisar, India and Hisarya, India

You suggested that these two pages be merged. But it appears that Hisarya, India does not exist - see Talk:Hisar, India. Do you agree? Do you also agree that Hisarya, India should be deleted rather than merged, since it is almost a duplicate of the real Hisar, India? Art LaPella 00:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I will tell in a day or two. Thanks. --Bhadani 17:32, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

re: esteem

True. We'll go on keeping these things aside. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 03:41, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the support...

...in my RFA. Good to know that you have ppl like Bhadani and Rama's Arrow - and other editors whose handles you already know :) that support an editor's work. I'll continue to work on editing articles of contentious nature, since that's what I love and many of those who didn't support me had something positive to say about my contributions and I'm happy about it. Thanks and don't leave even if alien lifeforms threaten Wikipedia. :-) Meanwhile, I'll continue to remain myself. idle. Idleguy 04:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox.

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Taj Mahal

No, I didn't know about this - Taj Mahal: The True Story. As to revisionist history, I'm sure that Wikipedia is only to document facts, not change the reader's viewpoint. It might result in a credibility problem. Rama's Arrow 14:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm a bit angered by the fact that the "Hindu" template was deleted - its not advocacy of POV, which Wales and others are opposed to. Plus, why are the Christian, Muslim tags still standing? I will endeavor to re-create a Hindu tag after I make perfectly sure there is no real basis for that deletion. Rama's Arrow 14:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I am still not sure, and have asked on the page of the Template talk:User hindu. --Bhadani 14:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

It may have been deleted by someone who may not be aware of Hindus. --Bhadani 15:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You would like to improve this: Template:User Hindu. The size of "OM" requires to be made smaller or you may like to change the contents altogether. --Bhadani 15:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, I didn't know about this. Rama's Arrow 15:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Template deletion

Please see higher in my talkpage for more information. --Improv 17:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Bhadani 17:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

My full reply to him on his talk page: I have nothing for or agsinst to offer. Personally I feel that use of userboxes have gone beyond comprehension. I simply wanted to convey that when you chose to delete the userbox of a particular religion, you could have taken few moments more to delete userboxes pertaining to all other major religions. Or, were you not actually aware of what exactly you were deleting? --Bhadani 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments and for looking into the userbox issue! Rama's Arrow 18:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you so many time today. But, how many Indians know that Taj Mahal was a Hindu Temple-Palace Complex? Likewise many may not know about the religion called Hinduism! --Bhadani 18:17, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

I'm leaving this macrophage, a particularly hungry white blood cell on your talk page, I just finished a rewrite of its article and realized they're not so different from administrators, as they keep their surroundings clean, doing away with anything that's not supposed to be there...
Anyway, with that short lecture on cell biology done with, I'd like to thank you for your vote on my RfA, which passed with (49/2/0), I'll do my best to not let you down, and if you see me heading towards a common newbie mistake, please nudge me in the right direction :)

--Obli (Talk)^? 20:41, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

JDoorjam's RfA

Thank you! Hey Bhadani/Archive06, thank you for your support in my RfA: it passed with a final tally of 55/1/2. If you want a hand with anything, please gimme a shout. Again, thanks! – JDoorjam Talk 22:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

This may be of interest to yopu please

Online edition of India's National Newspaper Friday, Mar 10, 2006' Dynasties in focus Hasan Suroor

--Dore chakravarty 22:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hindu userbox

Dear Bhadani,

Please feel free to copy the source of a replacement hindu userbox. I am not sure what the hindu userbox original read. I discovered this controversy today when I intended to add this userbox to my page.

This user has Hindu beliefs.

My RfA

Hey Bhadani/Archive06, how is it going? Thank you for supporting my Request for adminship! It passed with a final vote of 73/1/1, which means that I have been granted adminship! I look forward to using these tools to enhance and maintain this wonderful site. I will continue regular article/project contributions, but I will also allocate a sizable portion of my wikischedule toward administrative duties :) Thanks again, and if you have any questions/comments/tips, please let me know! — Deckiller 04:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

P T Usha

Hai Bhadaniji. I am requesting a help once more. Deepujoseph did a cut and paste move of PT Usha to Pilavullakandi Thekkeparambil Usha. He was not aware that the history will be lost. Can you please do the needful(should it be PT Usha or Pilavullakandi Thekkeparambil Usha or P. T. Usha). thanks --Raghu 14:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

You are most welcome - I shall surely help as far as possible. --Bhadani 14:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!--Raghu 14:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhpas, she is better known as P. T. Usha or simply as PT Usha. We may create links to the main page from diffirent styles of spelling. In my opinion, the main page to which all links may redirect should be with a full name for better order. What do you say? --Bhadani 14:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

That is fine. --Raghu 15:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello Bhadani. Thanks for the help! thunderboltz 10:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for Flaming Creatures

Thanks for the surprise. That was the last thing I would have expected from you...! I always thought Indian people are conservative they are not interested in this kind of film. --BorgQueen 16:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

You are most welcome! And, you have touched upon an issue about which we can talk for hours. I will add few more paragraphs before Sunday. Yes, I am conservative in the sense that I want to give the world correct information: be this about the above movie or about any other topic. In my general apprach, I am very liberal. --Bhadani 16:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Support

Thank you for supporting me in my interactions with user "Jimmeny" (if I linked to his page, he would most likely notice, and I'd rather avoid that).

My best to your charming wife, and I wish you a good Holi. DS 22:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

We should be transparent. I am unable to recollect. Please give me the link. --Bhadani 13:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

• That would be the message you left on User talk:Jimmeny. He submitted a hoax article, then created links to it in other articles. I removed it, and left him the standard message thanking him for experimenting. He responded with false protestations of innocence - "what do you mean by test?? A valid definition of this word has a rightful place in any encyclopedia!", although he subsequently admitted that the article was a worthless hoax, and chastised me for having threatened him. DS 14:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Bhadani. I wanted to thank you for taking the time to consider my RfA, which passed earlier today. If there's ever anything I can help you with, just ask; you know where to find me. Emphatic apologies for the spam. ×Meegs 06:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

I have created what I think is a stub on Pontificial Academy of Sciences. I should value your comments.Thanks(Vr 07:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC))

hi

Sorry to bother you again.On browsing,I just discovered that an anonymous user had tried to place a list of the mebers of American Academy of Arts and Sciences but it was deleted by an administrator called Cant Sleep the clown would eat me!Possibly because the list was somewhat long and maybe itmerited a seperate page.Is there a way to resore the list and create a seperate page?I think this would be the first step towrds creating stubs.Thanks(Vr 07:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC))

My RfA

File:Re-exposure of elephant - lahugala park1.jpg

I think I'm the one on its head.

Thanks for your support in my RfA. It passed, with a final tally of 62/0/1. I'm touched by all the kind comments it attracted, and hope I'll be of some use with the new tools. You know where I am if you need to shout at me. Flowerparty? 15:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hello from India

Thanks, Bhadani, first of all, for introducing yourself. You have been doing a fine job as an administrator. Keep up the good work. --Jay(Reply) 17:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes I agree with Master Jay, I checked your last 500 contributions and you are doing a good job. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 17:51, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Dates

Hi. Years without the day and month should not usually be wikilinked, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). Cheers. --Zero 07:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you - I shall remember that now onwards. --Bhadani 07:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Would you please also send me the exact cases, so that I may exlore and study the same. --Bhadani 08:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I don't understand that question. If you are referring to date forms, visit the policy page I mention above. --Zero 08:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I was requesting for at least an example to understand where I may have erred in wikification. --Bhadani 08:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Email

My email is ok but yours is not. Did you visit the web page in the confirmation message? Try sending mail to yourself. --Zero 08:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Re McNamara Brothers

Your message Your message: "The page known as The MacNamara Brothers is misspelled -- can you fix it -- it should be The McNamara Brothers. Thanks!!" - if you are sure, I shall move it to correct spelling. --Bhadani 09:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rsieger"

Yes, I am sure!! Thanks!! Sieger 09:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I have moved. --Bhadani 10:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Greetings

Umm, ok. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 10:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Boothy443 on my page is a real reason for celebration - so I am going out for 2 hours to enjoy my SUNDAY.

umm, yeah, ok, whatever floats ur boat. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 10:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Holi greetings back to you. Aucaman^Talk 13:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Message

We disagree on that, I believe those propogation of views are a part of human nature and something that should be understood and mutually respected so we can make sure they don't get in the way of our real goal: to build an encyclopedia and a community building that encyclopedia.

In any case, thank you for your message. Karmafist 14:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I do agree with your views, but sometimes things get really bad. --Bhadani 14:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

They do. I apologize for my misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I just can't sit by while people are getting hurt. I feel like I have to do something and this is all I can do for the time being it feels. If you have another idea, please feel free to share, I will always listen to those who are civil, and you seem to be that, my friend :-) Karmafist 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, my dear friend, like you, I have always maintained that we are building here an encyclopedia and the sum total of human knowledge. As such, all other our actions are subsidiary to this objective. Yes, we have to work here collaboratively and constructively, in an environment of mutual trust and respect. BTW, you did not misunderstand me – my words conveyed a level of emotional stress, which I feel sometimes in the course of working here. --Bhadani 14:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I feel that as well, and I hope that these efforts of mine can help reduce the levels of emotional stress we all unfortunately feel from misunderstanding and complacency. Nobody deserves to feel bad from Wikipedia. Karmafist 14:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too

I've only ever seen films of Holi, never experienced the real thing. It seems like a fun holiday and I wish we had it in the US! May you and your family have a very enjoyable and multi-colored Holi. Zora 14:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I came to say much the same thing. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My username

What is to say Bhadaniji -- it's quite straight-forward, no code, nothing. "Impu" in all the south Indian languages means "melodious" and "Mozhi" is the pure-Tamil word for "Language".

You may have noticed 2-3 types of 'r' being used in Tamil, if you are among those who can make out anything amid the andu-gundu. So 'Mozhi' is pronounced with a rolling 'r' in place of the 'z'. Nearly everyone must be pronouncing it as 'z', and also, everyone on WP is likely to think of "Impu" as connected to "Imp" -- I don't like that imagery, and it isn't me, but the deed is done. I thought I had conjured up a nice user-name, but it is an all-round fiasco. Wages of grandoiseness. Take care, ImpuMozhi 16:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you my dear - you have a lovely user name. It is not a fiasco at all - but now an open secret. --Bhadani 16:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Bhadaniji, your "Holi Hai" links to Taiwanese linguistics!! Is that part of the "origin of words" revelations that you are now working on? ImpuMozhi 16:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Great! It was jsut a coincidence. --Bhadani 16:19, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

WikiThanks

Thanks for supporting my RFA. I really appreciated the show of support and all the kind words from so many great Wikipedians. I hope I live up to them! -- Vary | Talk 17:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Bangladesh peer review

Hi, I've started a new peer review for Bangladesh, please express your opinions at Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bangladesh/archive2. Thanks. --Ragib 05:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

You're an admin!

I never knew!--Dangerous-Boy 07:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi!

Go ahead have fun and splash around this Holi. Have a colourful day --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the greeting, and happy Holi to you too! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 07:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Urgent

Hi - user talk:Dwaipayanc and myself have lost our talkpages. I think its a technical problem, but can you please investigate? Thanks, Rama's Arrow 14:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Your talkpage seems to be ok - so it could be vandalism. Help! Rama's Arrow 14:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

It was a technical problems. --Bhadani 04:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Exams

My exams went off well. I'll get theresults on 24th and I'll be sure to tell you then.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Deeptrivia

Hi Bhadaniji - see DT's message on my talkpage. He's ready for within 10-15 days, or March 24. I also suggested to him on his talkpage that we could/should move this week itself. Rama's Arrow 03:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

We must be careful, however. Rama's Arrow 03:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup. It was quite startling Rama's Arrow 04:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

you're not very observant?

are you?--64.12.117.8 04:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, like so many pages of wikipedia - this page is still in its infancy. Thanks for pointing out. --Bhadani 04:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I would also suggest you to create a user account. It is really easy. --Bhadani 04:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

an award

Moved to One more

A slightly belated happy anniversary from me too. Gizza^{Chat ©} 07:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Hai! -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You mentioned "a news item was published in The Hindu about wikipedia." Would you please tell the url link? Thanks Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

The News I am referring was something like the one found here: Wikipedia changes the Policy. --Bhadani 09:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Even after so many days....

Hi Bhadani, thanks for the greetings and wish you the best of Holi too. As I am anyway writing to you, let me take this opportunity to clear some of my doubts about Wikipedia.

Even after so many days at Wikipedia, these things have continued to baffle me:

1. Although I never had any issues as yet, I wanted to know how does one check for sock-puppeting? Is there any reliable way, or only the vague ones like time of activity and edit count? Is there any way to find the IP of a logged in user?
2. Is there any way to find out what my/someones userpages are? It might happen that I create an orphan userpage and not access it for days. Is there any way to find out what all pages have been created?
3. As Wikipedia gives its user freedom to maintain userpages, is there anything stopping people from using Wikipedia as a blog? The arguement that Wikipedia works on the same way isn't acceptable as RCPs patrol Wikipedia. I believe that most RCPs don't patrol userpages, and hence it is possible for users to use Wikipedia as free web space. It might be against the Wikipedia policy, but one isn't a thief until caught. What is more surprising is that Wikipedia allows multiple userspace images too. While such images may be scrutinized for copyvios, if one keeps his head low, it is possible for them to even use Wikipedia as flickr-like album.
4. How do I run scripts on Wikipedia? For example, I want to keep track of how many users I have welcomed. I always write welcome in such edit summaries, but I still don't know how to run any such script.
5. What is the difference between a sysop and an admin?

Your help will be greatly appreciated. Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

One more please...Is there any way to change my username? When I registered, I typed ambuj.saxena and it got changed to Ambuj.saxena. Is there any way I can change it to something like Ambuj.Saxena? Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

For finding the pages created in the user space Interiot's tool might be a useful option though I don't think it catches moves. Ambuj seems to have created just two pages in his user space Tintin (talk) 10:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Bhadani 10:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

For your "one more," go to Wikipedia:Changing username or ask Nichalp for a name change. Gizza^{Chat ©} 10:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tools mentioned, but they still have limitations as they tell user pages edited by me, and not my userpages. For example, it lists User:PEHowland, but misses Student Linguistics in IIT Kharagpur, which infact is technically my userpage's subpage. Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Replying to Ambuj's comments.

1. Only those with Checkuser rights may be able to view the IP addresses to check for sockpuppetery. You would have to contact one of the listed members.
2. I don't know about userpages. I've been wondering about that too. If you find out, please let me know. :)
3. This is wikipedia's policy on userpages: Wikipedia:User page. Blogs are not welcome.
4. As far as images are concerned, usually if one finds an image unsuitable for wikipedia usage, it is tagged and put on WP:IFD
5. To run scripts you would need a bot account: See Wikipedia:Bots
6. Sysop vs admin: No difference. See Wikipedia:Administrators
7. Request a formal name change at Wikipedia:Changing username, and I'll change your name. :)

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hai. I guess I have solved the mystery. This link will give your user sub-pages and User:Ambuj.saxena/Student Linguistics in IIT Kharagpur is not showing in your edit tree because while deleting it was not moved to your user sub page by the move function, but by cut and paste by User:Avraham.--Raghu 12:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks everybody for the responses. Now my doubts No. 1, 2, 4 and 5 are cleared. Just that Doubt No. 3 is still a bit unclear. What my point was that unlike the Mainspace, the User space is not very well kept track of. So if someone keeps his/her head low, it is possible to keep a blog running in Wikipedia. Although it would be illegal, it would. Anyways, drop it. BTW, my name change request is pending for the last 5 days. Looks like Nichalp is busy. Thanks again. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

May be - after all there are very few to effect the change. You may again remind him - he shall nver mind. --Bhadani 11:44, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Greetings

Happy Holi and NarNarayan Dev Jayanti to you to live long

Jay Swaminarayan --Raj - सनातन धर्म 23:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Greetings to you too, my friend. --Andy123 10:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too, Bhadani! Have fun! thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK}

Happy holi!! Thanks for the greetings "again and again" !--Dwaipayanc 11:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too. - Aksi great 11:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I knew I missed greeting somebody! I wanted to greet you before you got around to greeting me! :(

Anyway, wish you very HAPPY HOLI TO YOU!! --hydkat 12:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Very happy Holi to you as well. -Aabha (talk) 12:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Wish you a very happy Holi!!!--Jobinbasani 12:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi. Wishing you and your family a colourful holi. Jisha C J 12:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Wishing you a happy Holi too ! Cygnus_hansa 14:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too Bhadani :) AreJay 14:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

A very happy Holi to you as well! - Wezzo (talk) (ubx) 15:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too! AshishG^talk 17:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi, all! Thanks for the greeting, Bhadani, I'll try and be extra-colourful today. Flowerparty■ 19:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings, thanks a lot! <:-P --vineeth 04:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi!!! :) Madhav 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I wish u Happy holi.Sauron 08:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the wishes. Wish you a Happy Holi too.Boxerglove 12:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi ;) --PlaneMad 12:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Wish you a very happy and colourful Holi!! -Holy Ganga 16:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Rejoice and celebrate this spring with a rejuvenation of body and spirit - Happy Holi ! Adnat 20:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wish You a very happy holi. Yogi ^(talk) 21:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Belated Holi Greetings. :-) -- SivaKumar 06:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization

I hate to tell you this, but the first letter of definitions are usually capitalized.^[1][2][3][4] They do this so that people aren't given the wrong idea on how to spell the word. It is capitalized when it is a person or place name (i.e., a proper noun), though.--Primetime 15:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My goodness, so I will have to reverse all - I really wasted a lot of time. But, I had found anumber of entries beginning with a capital. Thank you for the information, I shall be very careful in future. --Bhadani 15:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

All done. No big deal. Have a good one.--Primetime 15:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

It is fine. Thanks. And, I wish you happy holi, something which no one may have wished you until now, and about which you may not have heard at all! Wikipedia has opened so many windows and so many doors. --Bhadani 15:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too.--Primetime 15:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

So my actions are now something like a fait accompli – but, we wikipedians are capable of reversing all incorrect things, and are capable of presenting correctly the correct information - may be over a period of time. --Bhadani 16:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

re:Rfa

Hi Bhadaniji - in my case, there needs to be more work done. Adminship ain't a reward for good users, so I must prove my desire to work for Wikipedia. Thanks for your support. Rama's Arrow 17:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I do agree with you, no doubt about it. But, after all, one day, you will have to take up the responsibility. Being an admin is a part of wiki-life for editors of your standing. You may wait, but you shall never escape...--Bhadani 17:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I won't even try to escape. Rama's Arrow 18:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi

Hey Bhadani! Sorry for the late reply. Happy Holi to you too! How about March 23? Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Arrghh!! why not now??!!! (attitude is jus kiddin, but question is serious) Rama's Arrow 18:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too! I live in USA so we are out of touch with festivals. This morning I was wishing my collegues, "Happy Holi!". And all of them go "Is it Holi today?". Glad to be part of the Wikipedian Indian community wishing and celebrating together. Sorry for not responding to your earlier messages. I was on a wikibreak. I had told Gurubrahma that I would wait until June before applying. Meanwhile Deeptrivia, Rama's Arrow and Saravask have my strongest support. - Ganeshk (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

BLW

Please see Talk:Bangladesh Liberation War#Killing of intellectuals. Regards Philip Baird Shearer 23:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi Hai ji

Thanks for the wishes. I wish you and your family a very happy and colourful holi --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan

Happy Holi

PURANPOLI, AAM KA ACHAR, SURAJ KI KIRAN, KHUSHIYO KI BAHAR CHAND KI CHANDNI, APNO KA PYAR, AAPKO MUBARAK HO, HOLI KA TYOHAR !

Happy Holi !!!!

Ashu|(talk) 06:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi

Wish you a happy holi

Karthik.raman 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Insulting behaviour by User Nohat

I have asked a simple question to one user Nohat at this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_English_words_of_Tamil_origin What is your level of knowledge regarding Dravidian Languages.

He terms this as "a stupid question" (Nohat 04:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My request to other administrators is to kindly tell whether the above question is vandalism. How can some one term my question as "stupid". Does an administrator in Wikipedia automatically gets rights to call others by insulting terms and also brand a question asking for academic credentials ("level of knowledge regarding Dravidian Languages") as "stupid"

To whom should we report this. What is Wikipedia and other admins going to do for such high handed behaviour. What is the solution for this.Doctor Bruno 11:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

MY REPLY

I read some of the discussion on the talk page, which you had refereed to above. Although I am in Chennai since 1999, I do not know Tamil. As such, I am not able to comment on the matter under discussion. As regards, the use of word "stupid" was concerned, it is not permissible to use such words. However, his answer was "a stupid answer to a stupid question". In my opinion, sometimes some persons may use such words without meaning any offence - you may please keep this in view: the user of the word may have just used it without any intent to hurt. Of course, an apology would have been in order, but you can not expect each one to be so considerate - after all we are in 100s of thousands, and each one has a distinct personality and behavior pattern. As such, please continue to work with calm and composure. Let us continue to build the best encyclopedia in the world. I do agree that most reliable texts in the world may not be having any ISBN number, persons should know about the cultural divide to understand so aspects of human life. There may be a number of persons who may not be prepared to accept that there are other civilizations, cultures, and languages having older and better history and heritage other than those civilizations, cultures, and languages to who they have been exposed before they came into contact with wikipedia. This is called infatuation. I feel amazed that people may edit here without giving any reference about themselves, while they create a lot of noise about references for matters which are obvious. --Bhadani 12:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Well Sir, you have enlightened my mind with the words "who may not be prepared to accept that there are other civilizations, cultures, and languages having older and better history and heritage other than those civilizations, cultures, and languages to who they have been exposed" This is the same problem with the ISBN. A lot of people over here do not understand that there can be books without ISBN (like the Bible example I gave). Thanks for your words and I have learnt an important point todayDoctor Bruno 18:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Life is like that - we have to live in the global village now, where digital divide is shrinking, but cultural divide is expanding. --Bhadani 17:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi

Happy Holi, Bhadani. I am sorry I could not find time to respond to Ambuj's questions; I was trying to find the answer to one of the questions. I guess all the questions have been answered now. --Gurubrahma 13:19, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

It is ok - I too learnt something new. --Bhadani 13:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your Holi greetings

Wish you too a very Happy and fun-filled Holi!!!! Rohitbd 13:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, take a good bath - you are covered with colored water. --Bhadani 13:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I also wish you a happy Holi !! Siddiqui 13:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Bhadaniji, what can I say, again you have forgotten me. But I cannot forget you, Happy Holi to you. Regards, ImpuMozhi 14:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi! Rama's Arrow 14:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the positive comments, and Happy Holi!--Natkeeran 16:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings to you as well (we use the name Phagwah in Trinidad). With regards to your question - I am happy to look over your contributions, but I was wondering if there was any specific aspects on which you wanted feedback. All the best. Guettarda 19:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too! Hope so you are still pink from gulal, too bad we dont get that stuff here in UK that easily... File:England flag large.png अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 07:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too! But we do not celebrate this festival in Singapore and I have never been covered with coloured water in my life! How sad! --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 14:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Experience wikipedia is more colorful than the festival of color. --Bhadani 14:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks ever so much!! VivekM 02:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

i am not a vandal.

You recently sent me a message saying that i vandalized an article. if you went to the talk page you would see that this was a misunderstanding. it is now commonly understood between me and everyone involved that i am not a vandal. The Speaker Of Absolute Truth 00:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice to meet you - about which message you are talking about? --Bhadani 04:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Your message

I had a very quick look through your contributions. I hope you'll forgive me for not having time to look too far back. But so far as I can see, you are doing an admirable job of living up to SlimVirgin's ideal Wikipedian standards, and your contribution has been huge. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to comment. Happy Holi to you. Grace Note 02:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. --Bhadani 04:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

International who's who

Hi

Hi Bhadani

I just created an article on International who's who to add another source of verifiability of notability for the community.No sooner had I put it up,it was listed for deletion for advertising.I should value your advice.Thanks.(Vr 06:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

Siddiqui RfC

I've filed an RfC against Siddiqui. Please support it by endorsing the RfC at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Siddiqui

File:England flag large.png अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 08:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I am looking into the matter, and after due study shall surely give my comments and views. --Bhadani 09:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I have posted a message on his talk page, and shall be awaiting his response. --Bhadani 18:11, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi

Wonderful indeed. With blessings of Holi,

--Dore chakravarty 09:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Sir, I salute the 85 year wikipedian, and wish to meet you in May 2006. --Bhadani 09:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

happy holi

Thanks for your greetings...happy holi!

SV 15:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Samarkand manuscript

As I understnad it, the Samarkand manuscript is the Uthman Quran.. wouldn't a Merge be appropriate? --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Was today Holi? - Hope you had a good one! --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I found that the term Samarkand manuscript was separately appearing as a redline in the page relating to Qur'an. Further, a bit of enquiry reveled the existence of Topkapi manuscript. All these the earliest manuscripts of the Holy Book, and Uthman Qur'an may refer to a number of such manuscripts. In future, the world may discover some more manuscripts. As such, in my opinion, merger is not justified – all these manuscripts are kept in different places. The world should know about them – I believe these two small stubs shall grow over a period of time. By the way, I am currently in South India where they do not celebrate Holi – all celebrations are ultimately in our hearts! --Bhadani 16:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

The manuscripted Quran in Tashkent is Uthmans Quran. You need to ask yourself, "Why is it called the "Samarkand manuscript" when it's not kept in Samarkand?" - the answer is because it was in samarkand when Timur took it there, Samarkand being the Capital of Timurs empire. Now, add to that the links you have provided, and you see that it is the same thing. The Topkapi Manuscript is an old edition, or part thereof, of the Quran - Possibly one of the first five, but it was not the Uthman Quran taken by Ali to Baghdad, which was taken by Timur to Samarkand, which was taken by the Czar to Moscow, which was taken by Lenin to Ufa, which was then brought to Tashkent. --Irishpunktom\^talk 16:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps, we may require to dig still deeper - we should continue to work on the issue: I feel that more persons should join the discussion. What do you say? Ultimately, redirection links, if required, may be created. --Bhadani 16:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, other people is a good idea.. how do we do that? --Irishpunktom\^talk 16:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

You may invite opinion of other members of the Guild. Moreover, other editors may also come forward to offer their comments - in wikipedia nothing can remain hidden for long - someone shall come to say something, as you came forward to give your opinion. --Bhadani 16:42, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

As the Samarkand manuscript was existing for long as a red line, I thought it better to make at least a stub - then someone added an image too... so may be, we have to collect more information to decide the factual position. --Bhadani 16:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, we may discuss the matter on the talk page of Talk:Qur'an, and interested persons may join. Please also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur%27an#According_to_Islamic_scholars --Bhadani 16:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Successful RfA

File:Saguaro2.jpg

Thanks for your support on my recent RfA, which I am pleased to say passed with a final tally of 80/1/1. If you ever need any help, or if I mess something up as an admin, please let me know. Cactus.man ✍ 20:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

"Vandalism"

If editing incorrect grammar to the correct grammar is considered vandalism, then I will no longer be helping out Wikipedia when I see an error... I would never vandalize anything let alone a website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.239.95 (talk • contribs) }

I regret. The notice was placed inadvertantly. You are most welcome - I also suggest that, if you wish, plz register. Thanks. --Bhadani 13:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism FAR

Hi - could you please set up an WP:FAR on Hinduism? I'm having trouble setting it up properly. Rama's Arrow 23:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I would love to do this - but, the page requires a bit of attention at some places. I shall surely do this, plz give me time of few days. --Bhadani 13:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Including takes care of etc

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for trawling through all those articles getting rid of excess etceteras - I wasn't looking forward to doing it but you've saved me a headache. Again thanks and by the way belated Holi greetings. Green Giant 00:44, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Your message was a tonic not a hazard – “including” takes care of “etc.” hahaha. --Bhadani 13:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi hang over

Thanks very much. I did not want to disturb you unnecessarily from your present responsibilities. Awaiting for the day of our meeting in India.

--Dore chakravarty 06:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I am looking forward to meet you in person. --Bhadani 12:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Holy hay!

Nice hearing from you again. Hope you had a good holi. I will be posting some qawwali and poetry quotes about holi at: http://urdukenaam.blogspot.com in a while (tonight or tomorrow), by the way. (I think we were discussing Qawwali a while back, no?)

--iFaqeer 06:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Lovely, I will read them - sometimes I have seen your "creations" there. --Bhadani 12:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The International Who's Who

Hi Bhadani

Thanks a lot for your comments.I await your advice.I felt this had to be included as a source of verifiability for the living subjects.All the entries in the volume(there are 20,000 of them)are strictly on merit and extensively researched.Right now the Wikipedia encourages google.I can see some problems with excessive reliance on google-there are several people with the same name and on browsing the deletion logs I noted that Wiki has not been immune to the confusion this can create-one article I note was deleted because the subject had the unfortunate coincidence of having a similar name to another with not so savoury antecedants!While this was cleared up during the debate but the intial deletion votes were counted.What I was meaning to propose was that to ascertain notability of living subjects,it might be best to find out if they merited an entry in this volume before googling whch can lead to an avalanche of information difficult to sieve at times.(Vr 07:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC))

Thanks, this is really a contentious issue, and each case deserves to be decided on its own merit. Cheers! --Bhadani 13:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Ranchi blocks

Copied from Phronima page:

I would invite your attention to the above. Actually, the administrative units have several villages. I think that a redirection link shall defeat the purpose of creating the stub. Do you want that a place having pupulation of 50,000 to 100,000 do not requirew an independent page here. Over a period of time, the stub shall mature. --Bhadani 15:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I would request you to please remove the redirects which you have created in respect of blocks of Ranchi district, as each block is an administrative unit with several villages, and population of around 50,000 to 100,000. Perhaps, you are not aware of the locations so you may have created the redirects - may be, you want some more contents. In any case, I will have to remove the redirects as soon as possible. --Bhadani 15:35, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I do agree with you. However, there is always scope to improve - there are several nice pages in wikipedia which have grown from a stub of one line. As regards the identical wording, the lead sentence was jsut an opening remarks. I would invite you to see the pages in this category: Category:Neighborhoods of Karachi. The wording is identical, but some pages have grown beautifully. Moreover, there are several 1000s of stubs of few words, and sentences in wikipedia, which await expansion of contents. Anyway, it is ok for the time being. --Bhadani 15:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not going to un-do the redirects right now - I will come back with stubs of few paragraphs, as each administrative block has its own geography, culture, and history. --Bhadani 15:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phronima"

His replies:

The trouble was that the articles contained no information that isn't provided by the list (they were so identical to each other that in four or five cases at least, the name in the article didn't match the title). If there's more to be said that won't fit into the list, then individual article can be made, but I don't see the point till then. --Phronima 15:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Please don't undo the redirects; I made them in order to avoid putting the articles up for deletion. The number of inhabitants is irrelevant -- if there isn't anything useful to be said about them, then we don't need articles on each one. Again, the list does everything that the articles does, with much less repetition. --Phronima 15:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry not to have replied sooner; in the vacation I don't get in to college very often, and this is the first time for nearly a week. (I'm a "her", by the way.) Certainly, if there is enough material to make an article for any of these blocks, they should become articles. My feeling was, though, that between articles on important villages and towns in the region and articles on the region itself, there wasn't really a need for articles on the middle-sized units. --Phronima 16:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thankyou very much for telling me about RFC. I will be reviewing all the neighborhoods of Karachi and I have seen your edits. Most of the articles were just stubs. Many things have to be changed and updated.

Siddiqui 17:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It is all right - I am telling about the Karachi neighborhoods - over a period of time, the pages should mature with pictures, and more information. --Bhadani 17:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Gyanameva Jayate? NPOV Jayate?

Hi Bhadaniji - increasingly I am viewing Wikipedia as a satyagraha on behalf of knowledge. We must endure many hardships and defeats, but the victory is sweet and inevitable.

I wonder if its a good idea for Portal:India, or Indian Wikipedians in general to adopt the motto "Gyanameva Jayate," just as "Satyameva Jayate" is our national motto? Rama's Arrow 17:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes, I do get frustrated to find that there is a crusade against knowledge here. I do endorse the spirit of your motto, Gyanameva Jayate (that is, let there be victory for knowledge), yet I feel that right now we must continue our efforts to build the Project in the truest wiki-tradition. --Bhadani 17:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

On a more lighter note, shouldn't it be Gyanameva Jayati as Satyameva Jayate has been shown to be an incorrect sanskrit phrase. I was also wondering whether to add this info on this page. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot my dear Ambuj. However, for the time being let us continue to work without getting perturbed. --Bhadani 10:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

With the way, things are going around with India-related articles, I'd rather have NPOV-Jayate, than anything else. *wink --Andy123 12:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

History can be re-written sometimes, but it can not be changed. Ultimately the truth comes out - Joseph Goebbels could not help Hitler. We wikipedians shall build the Project in am impartial way. --Bhadani 12:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Check the discussion page on Ahmedabad

I have made an edit at the bottom of the page. Please read it. I am sending a similar message to Aksi great. Thank you. --Andy123 12:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the "redunant spaces" on my page. I think you are online right now? Do you use Google Talk? My id is anirudhsbh at gmail dot com. Alternatively my Yahoo! id is anirudhbhati. Please do contact me, I am getting online in a jiffy. --Andy123 12:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Great, I shall call you on yahoo messenger - in minutes. --Bhadani 12:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I will not be able to receive any calls on Yahoo! messenger, as it is, I am using the messenger illegally from the hostel premises. I am using a proxy switch software for the purpose. This software, though does provide me with the option of chatting through the IM Window, but will not allow me to connect to the voice server. Ok, I got your message in time, just as I was going to put this message. If your messenger was not working, you could try out Meebo service. It is really cool. Half of the people in our college use this facility to avoid the firewall *wink. I am online through out the day. The internet facilities provided in my hostel at the Gujarat National Law University are 24/7 @ 512 kbps (which is shared between 320 students, of which 20-30 are online at one time). I am able to derieve reasonable speeds with that. And there are not many people who, like me, use the internet extensively throughout the day. --Andy123 12:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I am online throughout the day. --Andy123 12:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I will try with gmail talk. Will that be ok? --Bhadani 12:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I said that I would be online throughout the day. I should have put up a *conditions apply tag there. :( The Internet facilities in our University are provided through Wireless connections. There are accesspoints everywhere. Now if one of the switches goes phut! the whole network goes with it. I got offline, and then felt that, I'd rather sleep than waste my time weeping over the spilt soup. --Andy123 16:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that! and, what's your Gmail id, btw? --Andy123 16:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

It is my pleasure - right now, I am sending you an e-mail. And, by the way, when I was a student of Patna Law College (Patna University, we used to weep over split-milk - now people weep over split-soup - but wikipedia will always remain un-split.

Just sent you an e-mail - also got your message from google talk. In case, you are there that is fine - or we shall fix some other time. --Bhadani 16:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Great talking with you right now - you are the second wikipedian with whom I have chatted. --Bhadani 16:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

The chat through Google ended jsut now and I wish him a wiki-good night. --Bhadani 16:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I felt great! We talked about ourselves as also about wikipedia. --Bhadani 16:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all your concerns. I equally enjoyed talking to you. I can't wait till I see you on IRC --Andy123(talk) 16:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Sorry for the delay. And thanks very much for your greeting message. Vaikunda Raja 19:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Smurrayinchester's RFA

Thank you, Bhadani/Archive06
	for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 100/1/0. Thanks for your vote! If you have any comments, please say so here.

To India

For your information.I will be in India (Chennai) between 30th April and end July. Hope to meet you.

--Dore chakravarty 01:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I shall be here only, and would surely meet me - in case, you e-mail me your contact information. I am looking forward to meet you, Sir. --Bhadani 07:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Visit India

Sir, Thanks. How wonderful it would be. Definitely I will make it up.

--Dore chakravarty 07:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes Sir, but your are my Sir. --Bhadani 07:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Bhadaniji, Dore-avaru has not defined an e-mail ID on WP. Are you otherwise in e-mail touch with him? If so, can you privately WP-mail to me his number after you get it? And -- ahem -- maybe your own as well. Regards, ImpuMozhi 14:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I have never sent him any e-mail, and I do not know his e-mail ID. I shall request him from time to time to give his contact number to me on a particular e-mail ID of mine or I shall send him an e-mail, if he gives me one. I will somehow try to make contact with him. Thanks. --Bhadani 14:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Your greetings

Greetings back! Just pointing out to you that to link to a category or image without place an image/a page in a category use a [[:]] ahead of the category, as such:

[[:Category:

NSLE _(T+C) at 07:43 UTC (2006-03-20)

Thank you - I was not aware of this few weeks before, however, I have now started doing this. --Bhadani 07:45, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your holi greetings !!! I was out on tour to respond you. burdak 10:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

It is fine, I am sure that you enjoyed the vacation. --Bhadani 11:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

A totally unimportant milestone

Warning: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia Congratulations on your edit count man, that is sooooo cool. Warning: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia
You da man :-) NoSeptember ^talk 15:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind attention. Edit counts constitute just a small part of our wiki-life, we as wikipedians have a long way to go together to build the best encyclopedia. --Bhadani 16:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

How about a fews gems from me (though more likely they would seem PJs to you)..

• Guns don't kill Wikipedians, Edit counts do.
• Edits don't count.

Anyway, just as everyday is important, but birthdays are special, congratulations on your anniversary. Will see you again on your real Wiki-anniversary. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!!!!!!! deeptrivia (talk) 17:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Question

Bhadaniji, a small question about Bihar. AFIK, the Kshatriyas there do not call themselves "Rajput", do they? They are normally called 'Thakur', right? Exactly what is the colloquial caste-affiliation of the word "Bhumihar"? It would be nice if you could let me know what is the perception on the ground. Regards, ImpuMozhi 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Partly a difficult question to answer. Kshatriyas call themselves Rajputs in Bihar - yes you are right, they also call themselves as Thakurs. As regards Bhumihars, they are generally considered as belonmging to higher group of castes, normally at par with Brahmins and Rajputs - though exact classification in Varna system for them is difficult, they consider themselves as part of Brahmins, and use a number of surnames used by Brahmins of Bihar. This debate continues - as you shall find in Bhumihar page/ talk in wikipedia. --Bhadani 15:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Bhadaniji. I am seeing the answer just now. Do you have a policy of not answering on other pages? I think not, since I have a couple of comments by you on your talk-page. Thank you for the info. ImpuMozhi 12:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Help Request

Bhadani, Can you help me by bringing to my knowledge any users able to translate Ayyavazhi article to hindi or any other Indian Languages? - A humble request if you don't feel difficult. -Vaikunda Raja 18:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I can do that - Hindi is my mother toungue. But, typing it shall be a problem. In case, you so wish, I can tranlate it, then get it typed by someone in my Office, and send the scanned file by way of an e-mail attachment. --Bhadani 15:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Like several other departments of the Government of India/ Public Sector Banks, We have a separate department in our Office, just doing the work in Hindi. I can surely get a volunteer, and get it typed on a Hindi word-processor. Currently, I am located in Chennai. --Bhadani 15:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the wishes....

Hey,

Thanks for the holi greetings you left on my talk page.... Wish you had a great holi this time...

thanks again..

This is Tanul | Wanna Talk 07:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Request help...

Greetings. On 21st March, the Kothagattu Venkata RavindraNath page was created. This looks like a user page, since the username of the page creator is made up of the initials of the page title (i.e., Kvrnath). So I tried to contact the user to ask him/her if this is so, but he is yet to create his userpage. Now how do I contact him? This page might need to be deleted.The Silent Contributor 09:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Well thanks!! Your help is not required now, since someone else did the required work!! Cheers!!The Silent Contributor 09:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

Hi Bhadani! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 20:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello and Greetings

Adaab.....Welcome to Wikipedia--Sheikhu 04:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in Pakistan vandalism

I reverted vandalism in Hinduism in Pakistan page to previous version. I did not make any changes. Siddiqui 16:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Copy of my reply given on his talk page yesterday: Nice to hear from you. It is Ok that you reverted the vandalism - but you are most welcome to add contents if required - all contents are "dynamic" here. However, while reverting, please remember to abide by the 3RR rules. Sukriya, and SabbaKhair (Thanks and Goodnight), am I right in the use of my Urdu words. We in Bihar enjoy a lot of Urdu Ghazals and songs. Khuda hafiz. --Bhadani 14:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hey Bhadani. Sorry for the late response. I had classes all morning. Congrats on your first wiki-anniversary! I'll get the RfA rolling. Thanks a lot for your support. deeptrivia (talk) 17:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hello

It really doesn't matter and I don't mind either way, but I left it out on purpose because I was the first person to leave a message on the user's page, and I left a message right below the welcome template. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 21:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Wiki-Birthday!

Happy First Wiki-Birthday, from the Yellow-looking Green Giant. Congratulations on passing 20,000 edits, Wiki-Nerd. I would highly recommend you take the Wikiholics Test :P Green Giant 01:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bhadani, I am here as promised. Believe you already know what I have to say, so won't waste time on that. :D -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

KrishnaTemple.jpg

Please see this picture:

Krishnajanmabhoomi temple??

on the Krishnajanmabhoomi page. Unless from an angle I don't recognize, I don't think it's the Krishnajanmabhoomi temple. Do you?

bright

also please see this file .I tried to color correct your nice picture.

original

--Nemonoman 21:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

And a hello to you too! Boy, Surya has an interesting edit history. I created the article and edited it a few times in October of 2002, then nothing for most of a year and one anon edit, then nothing for most of a year, and then all of a sudden... And now there's fifteen edits in the month of February alone (by ten people, -2 for a vandal and reverter)... Anyway, thanks for saying hi Tuf-Kat 00:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bhadani

Hi Bhadani, thanks for Holi Greetings. Belated wishes for Holi to you too. I was away from this Wikipedia for a long time. Why, yes, I've always enjoyed Holi with my friends. This year too we played Holi with colours and water. Actually, since the time I've shifted to Mumbai back in 1996, I've played Holi every year. Earlier, when we used to stay at Malvan, there wasn't that much celebration with hard colours. Although, we used to go to the place of the Koli (ie. fisherman in Marathi) community, where they lit the Holi bonfire. I still remember that was quite different from the one in Mumbai. -- Mohammed Malvankar 07:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Review of you!

Sorry for the delay in reply. Will commence shortly. - brenneman^{L} 07:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Godric the sheriff

Was there a problem with my first word? Moleskin 14:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiangel-food-cake Birthday lights for Bhadaniji, for crossing well out of toddler-hood with >20,000 serene edits in the first year! With regards from ImpuMozhi 15:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hoozah!

Congrats on a good opening year and best wishes for the future! --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Dear Bhadaniji, many happy returns of the day. May you grace WP for many more patient years. May your chelas be given information on when your actual b-day is, so that they can turn up at your door for a hearty treat. Best regards, ImpuMozhi 15:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Lets party! abakharev 15:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, congratulations. :-) Moe ε 15:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hip-hip, horray! Congratulations and many wishes for future happiness here. Ifnord 22:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats from me on your enormous presence in wikipedia. I remember back in last summer, you and I were close in edit counts, but then I noticed that you accelarated in an amazing rate, and now have 3 times as many edits as I do!! And you have diversified so much, touched so many areas in wikipedia in the last year!! I wish you a belated congratulations on your first year of success. Hopefully you'd even surpass this year's achievement in the coming year. Thanks. --Ragib 22:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Have a great Wiki-anniversary. It was a shame that Deeptrivia's RfA failed. Gizza^{Chat ©} 23:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Hello

I convey my greetings to you on my completion of one year as a wikipedian. Come here, we shall have a party tonight. The biggest laddus have been ordered. --Bhadani 15:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Heh. Thanks for the thought, but my Wikibirthday is May 15, though I've been annoning since before that. On the fifteenth, however, we shall celebrate with the biggest and best laddus (pictures sadly; they don't allow you to upload food to the servers, something about sanitation, I guess). Thanks for the note, and I look foreward to seeing you around. -Mysekurity 15:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm Glad I Removed My Fear Of The Orange Bar

Thanks for your birthday message :-) Don't worry, i'll be around, one way or another. I just needed some time to get some perspective. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 16:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

How bizarre!

It's my first wiki-birthday today as well. The weird thing is I'd forgotten all about it, until your happy birthday message on Karmafist's talk page made me check the Esperanza Calendar. Anyway, I've had a great year and I hope you have too. Here's to many more! the wub "?!" 16:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Heh, yeah I guess that would make us twins (although you've been far more active than me)! Don't tell User:Titoxd though - he's my "admin-twin" and might get jealous :-) I added you to the Esperanza Calendar, hope you don't mind. the wub "?!" 16:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

babur

I'm expanding the article on babur, and tomorrow I shall enter the battles against Hindus, specifically the battle against Rana Sanga, so, i'd like it if you could help and make sure that I remain as NPOV as possible! As it stands the article Rana Sanga clarly is wrong, with a heavy anti-Hindu bias (though not a Pro-Muslim one, curiously)- so yeah, Help would be appreciated if you could provide it, or point me in the direction of where it can be obtained! --Irishpunktom\^talk 16:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copies from his page:

Great grapes

Let us first have some grapes, and then think of all the other issues. And, please remember rule number 48 of Rules which states that "The truth does not depend on a consensus of opinion." Please also be reminded of the words of William Ralp Inge [5] who once said: “Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter. This is what makes the trade of historian so attractive.” --Bhadani 17:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Request,Nomination for removal Khalistan article

Hello Sir I'm nominating this page for deletion because it is written with a point of view , excessive use of unreliable sources.and the title "Khalistan" is wrong for the topic because "Khalistan" does not exist,lack of support from resident Punjabi's and Sikhs in India, but there was a "Movement for Khalistan" and that is the right title for the topic, and i think this whole article "a new name" should be rewritten with the help of people from sikh community "in" India and other Indians, because this topic is related to politics/people of India.We all should understand Khalistan is not a political entity and having a article is not justified, Microsoft Encarta and Britannic encyclopedia don't have an article known as "Khalistan" but they do have articles on the movement that took place decades back, and i think there are also copyright issues involved with this article because big parts of this article are written on other peoples research. Many reliable sources are used to show "one side" of their view on the topic, there are also indications that organisations banned by US and EU are involved in providing their research on the movement.I am a strong supporter to have a stub on this topic , but im afraid that such articles on wikipedia have become mouthpieces for organisation which are known for disrupting peace (assassination of one of india's prime minister, twin bomb blast in New Delhi on the eve of Diwali) in Indian sub continent. This article requires your attention , please help. Anmol.2k4 18:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his page: I thank you for your concern. But, in wikipedia we do not solve such issues so rapidly. Microsoft Encarta and Britannic may not be having what we have here, we set our own example and standard, and we shall excell them in the long run. Any one may edit wikipedia, and some day, some one shall step into to make the things in order as reagrds the above page is concerned. --Bhadani 11:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The page

Take anything you want from the userpages, just don't hit my face (I'm ugly enough as it is) :P Green Giant 00:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

a few things

Hi - I just wanted to say I feel very unhappy and horrible about what happened with Deeptrivia's rfa, especially after Idleguy's rfa. Are we doing something intrinsically wrong? How is it that it is so easy to overshadow the great merits of a person?

I'm in Ahmedabad right now. I'll be returning home on April 8. I wish I could have a few days to visit you in Chennai. Rama's Arrow 08:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: This is a matter of deep introspection. I have nothing more to say except that human beings do not forget and forgive easily; it is always easy to magnify the negative traits, and difficult to highlight the good ones, though it is not exactly the crowd mentality. Would you or I forget if some thing so touchy is told against you and me? You may assess the feelings of involved wikipedians who were not treated with the respect and care due to them. But, people learn my committing mistakes only, and if the community fails to understand the transformation in people, then I am afraid the Project shall be rotating round and around, without reaching any destination. However, I do believe that we are a vibrant and resilient digital community, the best which the world wide web had produced until now, and the community ultimately recognizes the true worth of the members, may be if not in the short term, then at least in the long term. Please “don’t worry about the world ending today. It’s already tomorrow in China.” --Bhadani 11:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Indo Fijians in Fiji-from news paper-latest

Check from this email address to know how the Indo Fijians in Fiji suffered.

Thakur Ranjit Singh-Human rights activist E-mail:thakurji@xtra.co.nz

Copy sent to Nikhalp also.

--Dore chakravarty 09:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I know something, and would not like to go deep in such matters right now. Thanks for your advice to learn. --Bhadani 11:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

holi

thanks for the holi greetings.i am right now on a sabattical from wiki,as i am in collg for most part of the day,but i will resume contributing soon. --Jayanthv86 10:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Robert Frost

Hello Bhadaniji,

Just noticed lines from the great poem by Robert Frost on your user page as well as your talk page. Those are my favourite lines too. - Aksi_great 14:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Proxy

Dont act as a proxy for other POV warriors, the information you are trying to add by force is false. In wikipedia we should always remove false information. "The spread of Islam was also due particularly to the powerful Ottoman Empire. Nations were conquered, and their inhabitants were given a choice to convert to Islam, or live as dhimmis, protected second class citizens practicing an officially accepted religion." - That statement is utterly false, the only place the ottomans took Islam was to the balkans. Unless you are saying that Islam is predominantly a balkans based religion you must conceed this is false. It then proceeds to speak about Twentieth century politics, nothing about the history of Islam in the Muslim world, nothing about where most Muslims come from - It short, its false information which has no place. Now, Why would you want the section on the denominations removed? Its verifiable, and acorrect, and I don't understand what you want to remove it. Please explain --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest you to discuss the matter with on the talk page of the article. I am moving this to the talk page. You are also welcome to cite sources which do corroborate with your contention. --Bhadani 15:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The matter is on the talk page, right above where you posted. proxy is that fancy a word, I sure didn't create it, I just mean you are acting for others (Wheter you realise it or not). The idea that the statement is true is patently ridiculous, and surely someone of Indian descent will realise that the ottomans where nowhere near India/Pakistan/Bangla Desh or Indonesia. --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

A big hi!!

Bhadaniji, I have been caught up with work in the real world and though my edit count seems to have maintained its pace, I am actually spending much less time these days. I am blessed to be receiving barnstars from wikipedians I looked up to during my early days here, such as you, Nichalp and Pamri. I was planning to write to you - my first nom for rfa has gone off well, as you may know. It is sad to see both Idleguy's and deeptrivia's rfas fail - the principal reason for this is Anonymous editor's opposition combined with the incomplete disclosure by the nominees. Anonym himself succeeded only in his 2nd rfa (after working on the feedback from his 1st rfa) and while people do have differences with him, they also understand that he is committed to WP and hence they take his opinion seriously. Anyways, I do believe that these admittedly unpleasant experiences would be helpful in making all the people involved into better human beings. --Gurubrahma 17:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: AE is surely a committed wikipedian, and I have always kept SlimVirgin as an ideal. Yes, Idleguy and Deep failed, but they shall draw lessons, and shall become really nice administrators one day. I know about your first nomination as I had participated in that myself. When I find you doing so well, I feel very light. please be in touch. My selections were not wrong - the wiki-community wants demonstration of their abilities beyond doubt, and they shall do that in the months to come. --Bhadani 17:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Fiji Indians

Thanks for the ack.

--Dore chakravarty 18:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Request Help

Bhadani, I can't understand. Please put them (your reply) in simple words. And, What office? I was asking to provide the translated Ayyavazhi article of English wikipedia in Hindi Wikipedia. i don't know Hindi and why you told "typing it shall be a problem" ? - Vaikunda Raja 17:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see here the undeveloped Ayyavazhi artcle in Hindi Wikipedia - Vaikunda Raja 21:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Bhadaniji! Thanks for your kind message. Surely, I'll always keep learning and drawing lessons from my experiences. I am glad that I managed not to take anything personally. I perfectly understand the way everything happened. Of course, things like this are not going to change the way I've been contributing since November. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 02:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the grapes :)) <-- This is a real big smile. deeptrivia (talk) 04:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Such a big smile? Is it possible to have such a big smile? --Bhadani 05:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but only on a Sunday :) deeptrivia (talk) 05:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

All other days, you should study in the college, I believe ... I think you study well and so you write well. --Bhadani 05:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Smiley!

I just saw your comment to Anonym about my RfA and I noticed that you used a Tongue Smiley. Do you know any other Smileys? I also replied on my RfA. Gizza^{Chat ©} 08:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Bhadaniji! You are warmly (literally, as it would be really hot then in June!) welcome to Kolkata. Please let me know where you are going to start living. And please ask me if you need any kind of information you need. I may not know everything, but will try my best to reply.--Dwaipayanc 10:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I have just made a request for Peer review of Kolkata. Please help to improve the article. Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 10:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure, right now I am going out for about two hours, I shall come back, and try to do something. I wish all the best to you for this City of Joy. --Bhadani 10:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course I know Bangla. I am a Bengali. I know you are from Ranchi, but I have a bit complicated history! Grand parents and parents from Bangladesh, then Agartala (Tripura), then Jalpaiguri, Malda, Barasat etc. and right now in Kolkata! Kolkata needs the help of wikipedians like you for improvement. Thank you! Bye.--Dwaipayanc 10:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

IRC

I have made a special page for this now ---> IndianIRC --Andy123(talk) 11:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Can you tell me why the last messages on my page are being aligned to the right side? --Andy123(talk) 11:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Please join me on Google Talk (thru Gmail), I'd like to talk. --Andy123(talk) 13:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure. --Bhadani 13:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

My Birthday

Thank you, particularly in regards to the poem from my local hero. I'll try to send over an Indian one in return, there are so many brilliant poets out there. Despite my love of my homeland, Frost is second to Rainer Maria Rilke in my opinion. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 13:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the birthday wishes :) — FireFox • T [14:11, 26 March 2006]

Happy 1st Wikiversary, Irishpunktom

Greeting Bhadani, first happy 1st wikiversary...may the positive community spirit that you express see you to continued happy Wiki editing.. Speaking of which your last message sent to Irishpunktom was so appropriate for him. As I imagine you're now well aware, a number of other editors and myself have had numerous dealings with him and his frequently demonstrated lack of WP:AGF. Your involvement with Muslim World would be a good example of this. Hopefully Irishpunktom will take your message to heart and follow the "10 wikipedia commandments" and adapt a more community cooperative spirit. Cheers! Netscott 14:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I thank you for your compliments. But, perhaps a section of people do not want wikipedia to reflect the correct position perhaps. I have removed the page Muslim world from my watch list, and I trust others shall surely make this page reflective of the truth for which we all ahve come here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muslim_world#A_Note --Bhadani 15:42, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Sockepuppeting

Hi Bhadani!

I was wondering if you can help me out here. User:Anmol.2k4 claims that User:Thetruth and User:Zafarnamah are sock puppets. I remember dealing with several disputes with The truth and I'm pretty certain that it's not the same person. The dispute is here Talk:Khalistan#Dispute. Thanks! Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I would request you to take up the issue at the proper forum, which is Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser. --Bhadani 16:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

My up-dated reply copied from his talk page: Thanks, I would request you to take up the issue at the proper forum, which is Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser. Even administrators can not chack the claim such claims - only 10 / 12 persons in wikipedia has the tools to check this, and it may also take time. Meanwhile, please continue to work positively, after registering your doubts at the proper place. However, please note that telling some one to be a sock-puppet without any basis is not good. It may de-motivate the new users. So, I suggest you to be careful while levelling such charges - if the charge is proved wrong, the person who blames other to be a sock-puppet may lose his reputation. --Bhadani 16:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy one year...good work

Bhadani, happy anniversary! It's always a pleasure working with those like yourself that are deeply committed to ensuring Wikipedia is the most respected reference source on the web. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.--MONGO 16:18, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks, Bhadani for the barnstar! Of course, I'm primarily here to contribute to articles, and are sufficient number of sysops on wikipedia (and new ones are being created everyday.) I'll continue contributing to articles just like before. So luckily it's not a big loss to wikipedia, or anything like that. Cheers :) deeptrivia (talk) 17:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I know you well than several others, and so you do not have to explain the things like History of Pakistan or History of India, you wiki-geek. --Bhadani 17:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Indian Institutes of Technology

Hi Bhadani,

A request has been made for Indian Institutes of Technology to be peer-reviewed so that it can achieve a Featured Article status. I have been working on it for the last one week and feel that it is satisfactorily good to start the peer-review process. Please care to have a look at it and give your precious comments. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, thank you, thank you thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you... ^{n times} --Andy123(talk) 17:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh my God, you are becoming a wiki-geek. I am going to sleep now, after a bath and a nice hot meal. And, no thanks, you deserved it. --Bhadani 17:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Birthday Thank You

Thank you so very much for wishing me a happy birthday! I greatly appreciate the grapes as well. All the best. mdmanser 05:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Vyas Samman

Pranam. Calling your attention please to the Vyas Samman stub which I have just created. I don't know anything about it - maybe you can expand? I stumbled across it when researching Sri Lal Sukla to get rid of the NPOV tag. --Smithfarm 09:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your blessings. What language is Ashirwad? (I found it means "blessings", possibly in Kolkata, so that would mean in Bengali? Just a guess. As I told you before, my Indian geography is extremely poor.) OK, I'm expanding the article now. Here is a list of Indian national awards if you want to start more articles. They all deserve at least a stub, don't you think? I will put it on my to-do list, too. List of Indian national awards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithfarm (talk • contribs)

Greetings

Thank you for the kind welcome. It is good to meet you as well. As for the grandfather, that is a bit odd. I am only 36, but my wife is 50, so the grandchildren are hers from her first marriage. However, she and I have been married for 10 years, and all the grandchildren are under 8, so I am the only grandfather they know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhmoore (talk • contribs)

It is ok and fine. --Bhadani 17:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Greetings II

How kind of you to leave a message. Are you editing from India? I cannot say I have ever been there (only flown over it on the way home from Hong Kong). See you around. JFW | T@lk 21:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: Welcome to India. Yes, I am an Indian, and I invite you to India -next time, please do not just fly over - please land and see the warmth of Indians. --Bhadani 14:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Greetings III

There are no thieves on the wiki; you are welcome to use anything on my page you happen to like. Take care and happy editing; it's always nice to see your kindness around. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Bhadani 14:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Fili indians

I think you are mistaken. I never advise anybody at any time unless they ask my opinion specifically.

--Dore chakravarty 23:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: Perhaps I could not expalin. I wanted to thank you for your information. I used the wrong words perhaps. --Bhadani 14:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

American Academy of Arts and Sciences

Hi

You may recall our correspondence about the above mentioned matter.I wonder ifyou have had time to think about it.Regards(Vr 06:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC))

The Bachelor Machine and the Novels WikiProject

I took the liberty of removing the WikiProject Novels template from Talk:The Bachelor Machine -- The Bachelor Machine is a collection of short fiction, and so does not meet most definitions of a novel. If the WikiProject is more expansive and includes short fiction, feel free to revert me. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 07:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edit anniversary

Hi, Bhadani! Many thanks for the grapes and kind words. :) I'd be more than happy to help with your page design if you'd like. Regards, Sango123 (e) 16:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Correcting Past Mistakes

Hi Bhadani, I wanted to know whether its too late to change the errors made by Wikipedia. To cut short the suspense, I find it odd that the Wikimedia Foundation didn't take enough care in designing Wikipedia's logo. Apparently they made it on a software that didn't had Indic language support and shows the Hindi alphabets incorrectly. Can (and should) the Wikimedia Foundation be asked to correct this mistake. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what else needs to be known in order to ascertain the defect. Its there for everyone to see. "वि" appears as"व ि". This clearly means that the Indic language support is not there. Whom do you suggest I should contact? I contacted you as you are an admin. Should I message Jimbo, or someone who really will take it on war footing (like Angela or SV)? -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I am talking about the Wikipedia's logo. Click on the link to see the image. Along the equator of the globe, you will find Hindi text, which is the thing I am concerned about. The problem is with logo (which is an image) and is seen equally in all browsers. Looks like you haven't checked it yet. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, now I understood it - yes, you are right. How to get it rectified is the main issue now. We will have to take up this with Wikipedia Foundation or its any other wing. --Bhadani 17:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I think we can take it up with Angela. She is in Board of Trustees. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Then you prepare a suitable message detailing the problem. We will discuss it and post a message on her page under our joint signature. Then, we shall wait and continue to follow-up with further request, if necessary. In case, you want, you post a message right now. I will sign it tomorrow. We amy also tell one or two more bureacrats. Please go ahead right now, if you wish, and if you have time right now. Ok. --Bhadani 18:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Lake just trying to overflow.JPG

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Lake just trying to overflow.JPG. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Shyam ^(T/C) 18:12, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out. I have added the tag GFDL-self. Please remove the delete-tag. --Bhadani 18:18, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response to the image. But may I ask you do you belong to IITB? It does seem to see that photo. By the way after tagging the image suitably you could remove the no source tag from the image file. Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 18:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for misunderstanding and thank you for clarification. Shyam ^(T/C) 14:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I noticed one thing, you did not use your administration power in deletion too much. It is not understood to me. My most of the contribution started from the last month. But you have real impressive contribution to mainspace. Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 15:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I am aware that I can use the administrative tools - I use them very rarely... --Bhadani 15:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I am very younger to you and I don't understand too much. I was just asking, don't take it otherwise. I am feeling very great to get some comments from your side. Thank you, so much. Shyam ^(T/C) 15:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

All wikipedians are equals. --Bhadani 15:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

your b'day greeting to me

hi, Thanks for the greeting. It was very kind of you to do so. --hydkat 05:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Memorandum for Wikimedia Foundation

Respected Sir/Madam,

This is with reference to the current Wikipedia Logo. The leftmost jigsaw piece along the equator of the globe in the image has text written in Hindi. However the way it appears in the logo, it seems that it was created on a software that did not have Indic Language Support. Hence, what should be "वि" appears as"व ि". It is our request to change it as soon as possible to "वि" so that is consistant with the Hindi language and free of defects. Please refer Wikipedia:Enabling complex text support for Indic scripts for reference.

Correct Use:File:Correct hindi vi.JPG

Incorrect Use:File:Incorrect hindi vi.JPG

Signed,

-Ambuj Saxena (talk)

Please go through it and discuss changes/improvements. We don't need to hurry as its no emergency. (by Ambuj.Saxena)

It is fine - we will post the message within next two-three days. Thanks for seeing the things so deeply - after all you are from an IIT. --Bhadani 15:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my name is Eavesdropper. Just ensure that you actually send them an image of "वि" because it is likely that they still don't have Indic support. deeptrivia (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks DT. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Eavesdroppers are most welcome on my talk page. Thanks Deep for your suggestion. --Bhadani 11:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bhadani, should this be posted in Indian Notice Board? -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

DaGizza's RfA

Thanks!

Hi Bhadani/Archive06, thank you for supporting me in my RfA which passed with a tally of (93/1/2). If you need any help or wish discuss something with me, you are always welcome to talk to me. Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Alpha Phi Alpha

I have requested a Peer Review on the article Alpha Phi Alpha because I intend to request that it become a Featured Article. I would like to ask you to review the article and suggest any changes or additions that should be added to bring it to the standard of a featured article. You provided feedback on previous pages I have edited, and I would appreciate any assistance you can provide. Ccson 15:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure, now I am having three assignments of such revies on hand - I shall do something fast. Thanks for visiting my page and giving me the opportunity. --Bhadani 15:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re : Birthday

Oh! My birthday is on the 21st May, not March 31st. But thanks for your message anyway! :) - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

So I shall not miss the party! --Bhadani 16:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hehehe, that's my admin promotion anniversery! :P - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem, it should on the May calendar as well IIRC. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC

• Thanks for your well-wishes on my admin anniversary! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 23:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

question

how do you put pictures in the things that you edit? Stevietwotwo 17:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I went there

I went to the website and i dont think its copyrighted. Its at http://www.giverius.com/2002/starwands.htm if you wanted to know. Thanks!, Stevietwotwo 17:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

That is fine. Have a nice time here, and feel free to tell me anything. --Bhadani 17:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok thanks so much! Stevietwotwo 17:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

dont know

Ive tried making star wands onto my user page but it doesnt work! Could you please tell me how to do it again? Thanks, Stevietwotwo 17:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for all your help! Your awesome, Stevietwotwo 17:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

My to-day's talk with Stevietwotwo constitute my best wiki-talks until date - to assist a new wikipedian is the best thing one can do in the long term interest of the Project. Thank you wikipedia and wikipedians. --Bhadani 17:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Color

Sorry for all the questions but, how do you make the fonts colored? Thanks, Stevietwotwo 20:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels

Hi seeing your interest in books and novels, I was wondering if you might like to get envolved with our as yet small (revitalised) WikiProject. There is plenty of scope for influencing things and making your contribution count. We are about establishing standards for Novel based articles and writing articles that meet our own and others high standards, and to improve Wikipedia's diet of articles on Fiction books, otherwise called Novels. Please be very welcome. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)} 13:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copies from his page: Hello Kevin, thanks for the message, and I feel really nice meeting you. Your name reminded me of Lewis Carroll. While tagging the pages, I found that a number of pages require a variety of treatment including copyediting, “infusion” of fresh contents. Yes, I would surely like to be actively involved in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels. You are right as regards establishing standards for Novel based articles and writing articles that meet our own and others high standards. From time to time, I would surely try to contribute to the Project. I thank you once again for welcomning me to the Project. --Bhadani 14:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

RE: Southern Asia/Indian subcontinent

Hello there! Thank you for your praise. This is part-and-parcel of my 'quest' to restore or insinuate accuracy and balance to a clutch of articles that all too often succumb to subjective editing (also ready Talk:Cyprus/Cyprus and Geography of Cyprus for another recent even-handed effort). Relatedly, I also added country tables for each continent. I now need to source my contributions South Asian related ... but feel free to enhance the articles as needed. Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 16:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: You are doing a great service in building the sum total of human knowledge by giving perspectives to such matters. Thanks again. --Bhadani 17:29, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah

Hello, Bhadani. I've noticed you around and I found that you were an admin, so I thought you'd be a good person to make my request to. My request is that the name of a certain article be changed. Instead of 'Zaib-un-nissa Hamidullah', could you please change the title of this article to 'Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah'? Thanks,

--Le Grey Intellectual 17:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

IRC for India: #wikipedia-in

Please join this channel for India-related discussions. In case you need help to access IRC, please visit my IndianIRC page. --Andy123(talk) 22:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I shall do that soon. --Bhadani 17:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipolitics and Belated Holi Greetings

Sorry my friend, a belated Holi greeting for you. In regards to politics, well, that's just two or more people who disagree on something and want something. Politics are everywhere. Banning them does nothing but drive them underground. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 14:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia logo

Hi Bhadani,

I have placed the petition in my user space. Please do sign it so that we can take it up with the authorities. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The petition is here, and not at my talk page. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:29, 31 March 2006 (UTC)