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COI with Jazmin Bean/Universal Records/Interscope

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@Daily Spider Glee: Hi there. I’m not sure where exactly you got the idea that there was a WP:COI issue here. All of the info I added was properly sourced and this is far from the first BLP I’ve created about a musician. Not only did you not explain what exactly gave you this idea, but you also added a COI tag to Riki Lindhome and suggested that any articles that I’ve recently heavily edited need to be checked for COI. Since you never explained why you believe that I have a connection to Bean or Lindhome, I really have no way to discuss this with you. I would really appreciate if you could explain where this is coming from, but until then, I am going to remove the tags. benǝʇᴉɯ 16:04, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Just so you have a clearer explanation, your Jazmin Bean entry was so close to the promotional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jazmin_Bean that was already in draftspace the COI is very clear to me.ديلي سبايدر جلي (talk) 16:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
@Daily Spider Glee: Your conclusion that I have some connection to the subject of this article is based on the fact that the article I created shares similarities (which you have not identified) to the preexisting draft, and you consider that draft promotional. This is a complete non-sequitur and it also does not explain what about the article I created makes it clear without a shred of doubt that I have a relationship with Bean. You stating that you are not going to land myslef in the proverbial doggie doo by telling you what I have on you or how I did it is a violation of WP:NPA, which states, "Serious accusations require serious evidence, usually in the form of diffs and links." Meanwhile, your insistence that I have a COI with Lindhome's article is based, apparently wholly, on this already unsubstantiated claim that I have a COI with Bean's article. Again, there is seemingly no discussion to be had here considering your commitment to the notion that I have COIs with these articles is unwavering. You offer no explanation for why you can't be bothered with COIN or ANI, so I will take it upon myself to take it to COIN since I see no other way for this to move along. benǝʇᴉɯ 18:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
@Daily Spider Glee: Also, you stated in your edit summary, for when you deleted the social media section of the article, that the section "relies entirely on weak primary sources closely associated with the artist". I have no clue where this came from, considering none of the sources used in that section are primary sources, let alone primary sources in close connection with Bean. There is a Contactmusic.com article about their song "Princess Castle", a Vanguardia article about an art installation by Braulio Santillán, a Paper article about their song "Yandere", an interview with DIY for their "Class of 2021" series, and a Wonderland article about their song "Hello Kitty". benǝʇᴉɯ 19:03, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I've quarantined your particular version of the subject's hagiography here Draft:Jazmin Bean (musician) once you've admitted your COI and someone has checked it I will move it back to mainspace. The subject is notable and Wikipedia should have an entry but it needs to be done properly by soeone without a COI.ديلي سبايدر جلي (talk) 16:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I have reviewed the draft, smoked a couple of joints and realised that I don't really care if you have a COI or not so I've moved the draft back into mainspace. Have a nice day.ديلي سبايدر جلي (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Mark Bradford help

Hi there. I noticed that you recently edited Mark Bradford's article, and was hoping you might be willing to take a look at my edit request and draft at Talk:Mark Bradford as well. Hope to discuss further there! Thanks, Stewart for HW (talk) 17:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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Annual report

I already pinged you in the Top 25 Report's talk page, but better say it here too (who knows if you're too busy) that work has started on the 2021 report, and you're free to claim write-ups. igordebraga 01:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Whenever you can, write some more - I liked what you did to Britney so far (and I'm on the lookout for any entries that can remove her), but you still spoke more about 2007 than 2021. igordebraga 15:27, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@Igordebraga: Yeah, I definitely noticed that after I wrote it and realized it might be better to include all of that in the 2007 year-end report. Sorry about the slowness with the write-ups, life's been hectic lately. Can't say I'm not consistent, though!
Of course you're consistent. And while I wish 2022 is good for us, see if you'll expand those other things in your color (and maybe pick up another entry to compensate how Britney fell...) igordebraga 20:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Riki Lindhome

Depsite what the Boston Herald source says, Riki's nude scene in Hell Baby is not seven minutes long. It may have been that length in an earlier unreleased cut, but in the released film it is about three minutes long. I don't know why the Boston Herald source says seven minutes, but "seven minutes" should not be used in the article. However, that source should still be kept as an example of the scene drawing attention from multiple sources, and Riki being interviewed about it. Wilkinswontkins (talk) 12:24, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

What's your reasoning for removing mention of the very notable Profiles In Courage Essay Award? Do you not know what constitutes a notable event? This is a national contest with a considerable prize given by the John F. Kennedy Library. There once was a picture of Riki standing with three members of the Kennedy family at the award ceremony. Please stop deleting the entry and vandalizing the page. Brian L Raney (talk) 03:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
@Brian L Raney: My reasoning for removing the mention of the Profiles in Courage Essay is that, despite your claims that it is notable, the only place it has ever been reported on is in the newsletter for the very library that awarded her with first prize in the first place. If this was a significant enough event in her life or career to include at all, let alone by giving it two separate sentences about the award and its subject, then it would stand to reason that it would be discussed in at least one RS outside of the newsletter, which is self-published. I would be willing to come to a compromise about its inclusion, which would involve shortening what's currently there. benǝʇᴉɯ 02:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
I could have included the part about how Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, who won the same award in 2000, had originally written his essay on the same subject as Riki Lindhome, but I left it out. (Interestingly, no one vandalizes Pete's Wikipedia page regarding the award.) Riki has spoken about receiving the award on occasion from on her podcast, Making it with Riki Lindhome on the Nerdist Channel, and her Instagram and former twitter account. newsletters by the JFK library is an external source independent of the subject and qualifies as an accepted source for inclusion to Wikipedia. If every fact required two sources or more before inclusion in Wikipedia, more than half of all the content would disappear. Brian L Raney (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, many greetings to you. I noticed in the Cry (Ashnikko song)-article that the you're already familiar with uploading snippet's of music files here on Wikipedia. I would therefore like to ask you whether you're able to upload a cut of [1] for the corresponding article. I don't feel like I have the possibilities and know-how to do it for my own. Your reply on this would be greatly appreciated. Iaof2017 (talk) 14:47, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@Iaof2017: Hi there, apologies for the late response. I've added an audio snippet to the page per your request. If you ever need help doing this yourself, I'd be more than willing to help you out, as it's a fairly simple process. benǝʇᴉɯ 00:38, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey warm regards to you and a huge huge thank you for the upload. I would be pleased to learn it from you. :D Iaof2017 (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Garfunkel and Oates/GA1

Just one sentence that needs to be clearer, before this article is a GA. Good stuff! -- Zanimum (talk) 01:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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I've tried, a couple of times, to add an observation to Biden's speech noting that although he said we have to act, he didn't actually take or propose any action. This statement is both true and supported by the reference, but it has been reverted twice by Benmite for NPOV reasons. I plan to reinstate the change, this time with the wording Biden did not elaborate on what, if any, action he had in mind. This definitely is true and supported by the reference--if this does not pass NPOV muster I challenge you to propose an alternative wording, not simply revert, as I am working in good faith to try to come up with a neutral wording. Dash77 (talk) 05:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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Close at Talk:Robb Elementary School shooting#Inclusion of conspiracy theories

I'm not contesting the analysis of the close you made here, but I think it was poor form for you to make the close. In nearly all cases, a close is supposed to be made by an uninvolved editor, see WP:Closing discussions#Closure procedure. You were not just involved in the discussion on conspiracy theories, but were one of the most prominent voice in the discussions. I think the best thing for you to may be to undue undo the close. Doing so would likely not change the outcome of the discussion, but allowing a non-involved editor to make the close will make the consensus seem stronger. Thanks, Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 18:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@Iamreallygoodatcheckers: WP:CLOSE states that any uninvolved editor may close most of them, and it also reads, "In uncontentious circumstances, even an involved editor may close a discussion." To me, the discussion seemed fairly uncontentious, as almost every user on both side of the argument agreed that there should be a brief mention of the rumor, but not a full section. While I understand your concern, I don't think undoing the close would be fruitful, especially if, as you predict, the outcome will be exactly the same. benǝʇᴉɯ 18:30, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Your closure can be possibly misinterpreted as stating that there is consensus for the wrongly shared image to be used in the article, but I'm fairly certain that's not what you were saying, right? Perhaps you could reword it for clarification at least. ––FormalDude talk 18:56, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
FormalDude No, I didn't mean it like that. Thank you for bringing that to my attention, I didn't realize that was how it came across. Yikes! benǝʇᴉɯ 18:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
  Done, I think. Let me know if that sounds any better, FormalDude. I definitely do not want people trying to put the woman's photo in the article based on my closure! benǝʇᴉɯ 19:02, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Much better, thanks! ––FormalDude talk 19:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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Taimanin article

Hello! Would it be ok if I used the references in this page on your sandbox to make a Taimanin series article? Jotamide (talk) 15:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@Jotamide: Yes, that would be fine! Thanks so much for asking. benǝʇᴉɯ 00:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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I need to get in touch with the people who continually remove Psyche's history from this article. My band was the first to cover this song, and made it famous before you could even find the original in the Internet. We play it live, and the video we made has over 2,5 million views closest to the original version when it was on YouTube. As far as I know Psyche's version is the most widely known cover version out there. I would appreciate our presence remaining in the article here. Ghostchild (talk) 15:16, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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Goodbye Horses

Hi there, We need to talk about reinstating the information about Psyche being the first artist to cover Goodbye Horses. I need to get in touch with the people who continually remove Psyche's history from this article. My band was the first to cover this song, and made it famous before you could even find the original in the Internet. We play it live, and the video we made has over 2,5 million views closest to the original version when it was on YouTube. As far as I know Psyche's version is the most widely known cover version out there. I would appreciate our presence remaining in the article here. We started the story before you could even find any information about the original in the internet. https://www.psyche-hq.de/goodbye-horses/ Ghostchild (talk) 15:20, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ghostchild: First and foremost, the fact that you've admitted that you have a close connection with Psyche presents a major conflict of interest. Also, if information about your cover isn't widely available in non-primary sources, then it's unfortunately not encyclopedic. Views on YouTube and personal claims to fame aren't enough to justify the cover's inclusion in the article. benǝʇᴉɯ 21:43, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
The success and well known release Psyche of Psyche's version of Goodbye Horses is well documented, and just because I am the band member does not change that fact. Someone at Wikipedia needs to research and confirm with better editing than I am capable of. I have compiled a list of all the covers and videos on YouTube over the last 10 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syca_kAEKxY&list=PLQlduX15THrvXALASX0u4aIch7IqmzB_e Psyche covered this song before the internet was even available. We even provided a page explaining everything about the song while it was still obscure and we were the only band actively performing it. https://www.psyche-hq.de/goodbye-horses/
Until 2009 there was rarely any other cover version appearing until Tone of Arc, Haden Thorpe, Kele, and later Airborne Toxic Event, and Crosses. You will find them all on my playlist including the original from Q Lazzarus.
At the time of Kevin Smith's Clerks 2 featured the song, the only version still available digitally was Psyche's.
To this date, no other cover version of Goodbye Horses has over 2.5 million views on Youtube other than the single edit by Airborne Toxic Event. I would appreciate your help in establishing a balanced entry based on these facts. 12 years ago this page had a clearly defined release info of the various interpretations. At one point when it was rewritten by your contribution, Psyche was completely removed from any mention at all. That is also not encyclopedic. You can't entirely remove someone's existence or importance here just because there isn't a review on Pitchfork. I do feel that views on YouTube have some relevance in the case considering there are performances of this song by Psyche as early as 1996, and the official 2012 video Psyche released is from the re-recording in of 2009 which has since been released on vinyl twice by the Optimo label. Since both editions sold out, the prices range from €75 to 25O EURO so obviously it must have made some impact. https://www.theransomnote.com/music/news/psyche-goodbye-horses/ and here a review that states clearly how many years Psyche has been performing the song: "Immediately afterwards there is the next cover, which actually isn't one anymore and hasn't been missing from any Psyche concert for many years. Goodbye Horses leaves the fans with the same satisfied expression as the artist himself." https://monkeypress.de/2010/03/live/konzertberichte/nitzer-ebb-psyche-bochum-matrix-24022010/
Perhaps you can find a way ti wikify this information for the world. Thank you. Ghostchild (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
and this here may be useful. In 1996 when the World Wide Web was just developing. Everyone who looked for Goodbye Horses could only find the Psyche version on CD and in the Internet. Even the lyrics were attributed to Psyche before anyone knew who wrote them. https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Romance-Psyche/product-reviews/B000024M9M/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews
Resident Adviser: https://ra.co/dj/psyche-de/biography Ghostchild (talk) 10:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Adding unsourced categories

  Hello, I'm Ohnoitsjamie. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Coi Leray, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! OhNoitsJamie Talk 03:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: My apologies. Last time I checked the page, there was a sourced sentence stating that she had ADHD. I added that back with a source. Thanks for letting me know. benǝʇᴉɯ 04:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Offhand comments in interviews are not sufficient per WP:BLP to add categories like that. Please stop. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ohnoitsjamie: Regardless of whether or not it was an offhand comment, what part of it is a violation of WP:BLP? Leray stated it herself in an interview with another publication, meaning that it is not coming from a a self-published source. Office, the source for this, has a decently-sized editorial staff and no regarded instances of factual inaccuracy. Nowhere within the sourced interview does it suggest that the comment was made jokingly or that ADD stands for something other than what it is generally understood to mean, which is attention deficit disorder, used to refer to ADHD. My addition to the page also only includes that Leray has said she has ADHD. I think whether or not it should be allowed in the category for people with ADHD is a worthwhile discussion, but there does not seem to be much rationale for removing my other addition to the page from you other than that the quote "doesn't cut it here". I will hold off on reinstating the edit until the discussion has finished so as to avoid an edit war, but if you have any specific reasons for why it violates BLP rules, please let me know. benǝʇᴉɯ 05:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
It's not uncommon for people to describe themselves as "ADD" in a casual way; it's not the same as behind diagnosed with it. We err on the side of WP:BLP when tagging someone with a psychological condition. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ohnoitsjamie: Nowhere in what I added the second time, barring the readdition of the category, did it state that Leray had been diagnosed with or was ever proven to have ADHD, merely that she has stated in an interview with a reliable source that she has it. Like I said, I agree with your removal of the category on the basis that she has not been shown to have been diagnosed with the condition. However, in the interview, Leray does not use ADD as an adjective like in your example of using it casually. She specifically says, in response to a question regarding the level of energy in her performances, "I got ADD," which implies, at the very least, that knows herself to have the condition. benǝʇᴉɯ 14:42, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ohnoitsjamie: If you have nothing more to add, I will be redoing the previous edit I made without the category addition. benǝʇᴉɯ 05:20, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Coi Leray

I've posted an item at the BLPN noticeboard regarding the ADHD label. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:22, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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