Aviva Butt

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Nathan Zach

I undid your edits to Nathan Zach. I was very unhappy with the lack of knowledge of technical matters visible in your edits, disrupting the article. Please study the links above to familiarise yourself with editing in Wikipedia. Thank you for your understanding. Apart from that I didn't see the point in part of your rephrasings. Debresser (talk) 22:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. No need to write me outside Wikipedia. I'm here a lot. :) If you want to write me here, just press the word "talk" right after my signature at the end of any of my posts and leave me a message.

Wikipedia does have a lot of rules, like Wikipedia:Manual of Style and various policies and guidelines about what to unclude (and most importantly what not), and how to do that in the best technical way. The best way to familiarise yourself with all of that is to start editing. You can start with simple text edits. Then add a reference. Then a tag. Then use more fancy way of doing al of that, etc. All of us here have once been newbies, so we are always willing to lend a helping hand, either by fixing any mistakes you might inadvertantly make, or by telling you how to improve your edits. One of the easiest ways to improve your technical knowledge is to have a look at the code every time you see anything you like ("How did he do that?"), and experiment with trying to do the same.

As to the preferred name, "Nathan" or "Natan". The rule is that we should follow the spelling by which a person might best be known to the public of Wikipedia, which is English speaking. I did a small search with Google and found no significant difference in the use of the two names.

If you'll have any more specific questions, just write me. Debresser (talk) 11:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Adunis

I'm afraid I had to remove the link you added at Adunis, it fails WP:ELNO. You should also read WP:COI. Best wishes, Bigger digger (talk) 00:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bigger Digger, I hope I did things right this time. My addition is intended to throw light on how Adunis “became a pioneer of modern Arabic poetry.” I have mentioned that he wrote experimental poems (and actually he was the theorist of the Shi’r poets). He had a unique ability to combine Arab nationalism with mysticism (illustrated in the External Link I added) and made use of Sufi terms in some of his poems.Aviva Butt (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Aviva, it's great that you've increased wikipedia's coverage of Adunis (the editor before you seems to have renamed him Adonis, is that correct?), but the link to your blog fails WP:ELNO (click to read), especially number 11:

Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc, controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.

I'm sorry, but these guidelines are here to ensure a level playing field - if everyone writing about a subject added a link to their blog to the end of a Wikipedia article, there would soon be more links than prose... Bigger digger (talk) 23:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The following moved back from User talk:Bigger digger to maintain the thread. Bigger digger (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Adunis is in my opinion correct even in English. I would not like to have my name translated to English. It wouldn't feel right to be called "Spring" instead of "Aviva". Thanks for your help. Best. Aviva —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviva Butt (talk • contribs) 03:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for understanding with the link, and thanks again for your contributions, I hope you can add more. I had a look at some of the sources and they seem to refer to him as Adonis – all us poor monolinguals... Best wishes, Bigger digger (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Text cut and pasted back from User talk:Bigger digger
Hi Bigger Digger,

Yes, you are right. Adunis' work has been popularized in English using his name as "Adonis". One more problem with "Adonis" is that when this name is put into Wikipedia, the Greek god Adonis comes up and not the poet. To me, I know and love the poet as "Adunis" so it is hard to cope with "Adonis".

So perhaps we could write ADUNIS known to the English reader as ADONIS (Ali Ahmed Said).... What do you think?Aviva Butt (talk) 20:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bigger Digger. I see you have already tried to fix the Adunis entry by listing the poet as Ali Ahmad Said. It is now correct, but I do not know how many people would think of him under his real name! Best. AvivaAviva Butt (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
End cut and paste

Aviva, thanks for the response. The notice at the top of my talk page says I prefer to keep conversations in one place, if you reply here I will notice and reply. It looks like someone has indeed gone through the thought process, you can find the article via:

• Adunis
• Adonis (poet)
• Ali Ahmed Said
• Ali Ahmad Sa'id
• Ali Ahmad Said Asbar and
• Adonis (disambiguation)

and a few other different spellings. Seems someone has thought through! Bigger digger (talk) 00:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkback:Orionist

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December 2011

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Nathan Zach with this edit, did not appear to be constructive, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Prodego ^talk 05:52, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Help me!

It is a long time since I have edited Wikipedia. Wiki seems to have forgotten me. What should I do?

Please help me with...Problem with finding the "Save" button after making many changes. Problem with putting references into the References. Problem with indenting and using italics for lines from a poem.Aviva Butt (talk) 02:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Aviva Butt (talk) 02:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

1. The "Save" button has been renamed as "Publish changes".
2. The template {{reflist}} under the References header collects all of the references that were created with <ref></ref> in the body of the article. More details at WP:REFB.
3. Try template {{poem}} for formatting poems. Using italics would appear to be contrary to the accepted style.

Hope this helps. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:36, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

One more suggestion: stop trying to sign your edit summaries with four tildes. It does not work. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:03, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Aviva Butt. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Salim Barakat, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Salim Barakat

After all is said and done, it appears that both yours and my edits to the Salim Barakat article have been undone and are due to be erased from the visible history of the page. I'm sorry for the loss of your contributions, but given how toxic copyright violations are to Wikipedia's mission, you need to understand that this action was taken for the protection of Wikipedia as a whole. Thank you for your efforts. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)