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Lordship of Nanteuil edit

Alec, is Lordship of Nanteuil a translation from another Wikipedia? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Ciao, not exactly a little bit yes from Signoria de Nanteuil only and I checked the sources, why is no good to translate? I have to change? --Alec Smithson (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

is a draft I want correct and develop step by step Lordship and history of Nanteuil.
Translating is just fine. All we ask is that you use the template Template:translated on the talk page so that future editors know that. Thanks, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I don't know if is correct to use the template translated because is not exactly the same text. Thanks to you. Best R.

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Ok Sulfurboy great, I will do. --Alec Smithson (talk) 19:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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ok thank you.

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I reverted your inclusion of Mary (mother of Jesus) in Category:House of Natoli, figuring that she predated that house by over 800 years. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I strongly encourage you to leave this wikipedia alone, and edit some other. Yes, I know you are blocked on it.wp, and I now fully understand why.

You also need to understand how Wikipedia articles are built and the requirements for notability, WP:verifiability and WP:neutrality (among others); and you need to pay attention to advice received from other editors. You demonstrate no ability to do any of this. You continue to add unreferenced content though you have been asked many times not to; much of it is completely incomprehensible, as your grasp of English seems to be very poor (se preferisci, ti posso spiegare tutto questo anche in italiano, ma tanto non ti frega nulla, vero?). Your understanding of our policies and practices is very limited, and your interest in improving it seems negligible. If I see any further incompetent editing on your part I intend to ask for your editing privileges here to be limited or terminated. If I do so, I will also ask for them to be limited or terminated on the other wikipedias you have spammed with your abominable translations of Carlo Bazzi. Oh, and that is a copyright infraction too – if you translate content from here to another wp, you must provide attribution of the source. I don't know what you think you are doing here, but you are definitely not helping to build an encyclopaedia at the moment. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

the way I write I feel deeply offensive unjustifiably. It is false that I do not give a damn of your statements, I believe to contribute news of interest and as you can see there are always sources. The reasons for the block on wiki Italy is down to what you believe, but in a discussion with an arrogant editor who wrote news without logic and sense that I objected. You're right that I have to improve on English but this can also happen with a collaboration since errors are often solved in a few words. Carlo Bazzi tried more news and I always providing complete exegesis of the sources, the note of request asked to complete it. Best Regards --Alec Smithson (talk) 09:02, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Alec, you do not have good enough English to effectively edit English Wikipedia. It is unfortunate that this offends you, but it is reality. My suggestion is that you post on the talk pages with suggested sources and ideas. Let people who are more fluent do the actual article work. Montanabw(talk) 02:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
I concur. FactStraight (talk) 20:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Ok I will work about. --Alec Smithson (talk) 02:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

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But I provided the reliable sources! for these integrations. I will improve.

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An apology edit

A few days ago I responded here to a question from you. The way I answered you was well below the standard of courtesy that I require of myself, and that I hope to meet with in other editors. I was rude, I should not have been, and I am sorry for that. I have placed below an invitation to the Teahouse. Please give that a try – you may find people there who can help you more than I have been able to.

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  3. Try reading some articles in Treccani; do they talk about "iconic" chairs, "the most important" painter, "one of the most famous patrons"? No they do not; they are written in serious academic language (usually!). That is the same "encyclopaedic" style of writing we want here – plain, clear, dispassionate and, above all, accurate. Who is Andrea Bernocchi, mentioned without explanation here?

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Sorry I read only now. I thank you for what you write, and you have admitted that you were rude and impolite, apology accepted.

I don't understand these: " Be careful with accusations of vandalism; those can sometimes be considered personal attacks, and have unpleasant consequences" If you complete erase a text without reason, complelty next my long work, sorry but I think that these is a vandalism? did you agree?

Treccani is an encyclopedia that has had a great Italian authorities but the majority of the texts were written over 50 years ago, when the writing was really wrong like manner, I invite you to investigate Treccani.

If it is true that a designer has been one of the most important in Italy, and is well known, I think that even in an encyclopedia is not a eulogy but an important element to the player and if that shared and reliable. Castiglioni on what is certain.

Bernocchi was the most important philanthropist of Italy, founded the museum of the three-year (see photos of license plates and the whole building is engraved with his name). Three years is the most important museum of Italian design today. Bernocchi has finziato riscotruzione the Brera and Milan's La Scala and more. The sources are all there. And very famous. You'll have to trust what I write otherwise documented at least better, I always carry literature and sources sometimes if I can also link to pages readable online.

Read: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Bernocchi These is the official page of italian Government Senate http://notes9.senato.it/web/senregno.NSF/0e10afcd14636769c1257134004b5171/0a92c123e7ef95894125646f0058dfb0?OpenDocument With pleasure boar in TeaHouse, thanks --Alec Smithson (talk) 20:06, 19 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you nice invitation.

I will do it. --Alec Smithson (talk) 19:50, 19 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

September 2015 edit

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?? But I remove because I resolved the problems! the templeate asked categories and I insert category so I removed! Check it!!!

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You did add categories, but the article is still an orphan and a dead end, meaning nothing links to it and it doesn't link to anything else. Those are the issues that need to be addressed. Also, the article should have some sources to back up its claims and make it verifiable. clpo13(talk) 19:47, 19 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
???? 1. before was not indicated orphan page in the template that I removed. 2. Fake also these, the page is not orphan page. Check.

3. i don't understand the soruces in bibliogaphy is verifiable. Thanks. P.S. You can erase the templates now, I did yest. --Alec Smithson (talk) 19:49, 19 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Copying from Italian Wikipedia: attribution is REQUIRED edit

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ok. Now please rebuild the page Lierna Chair of Castiglioni like before. Thank you. --Alec Smithson (talk) 13:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Copying from Italian Wikipedia: attribution is REQUIRED edit

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I understand, but your message was given after the building of Antonio Bernocchi. However, the text is different not the same. Satis est --Alec Smithson (talk) 21:49, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

I Repet the text of Antonio Bernocchi is not the same of the italian version. Read and see easy. --Alec Smithson (talk) 21:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Carlo Bazzi/Cariplo edit

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October 2015 edit

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The user Justlettersandnumbers, specializing in goats, continued repeatedly has removed, without limitation but not limited to Lierna Chair bibliography correct and specified in the notes present as well as a model and policy of wikipedia, it did so without reason, without reporting any news or prodromal question.

Please analyze the ultimate elimination of Bibliography who admitted to having done. Check where was the mistake or inaccuracy of the Bibliography Lierna Chair cancelled? with nothing to report, ask, inform me, justify? But I can continue. Invitation to contain on every front that user. I'd rather not interact in any way as a result with this user, I do not think he's doing the intetesse texts produced. --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:31, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Check Bibliography last eliminated on Lierna Chair in detail and you will see that what I say is true that the references risponderva what is to be reported in the policy wikipedia. thank you.

--Alec Smithson (talk) 17:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry, Alec Smithson, but I can't understand what you are trying to say. As I have repeatedly told you, you do not have the necessary WP:COMPETENCY to edit this Wikipedia. If you want to try to explain in Italian what you mean, I will translate it for you. But please be careful not to make any more inappropriate accusations of vandalism, and try to assume good faith. If you want someone else to look at this page, put a {{help me}} tag on it, with a clearly-worded explanation of what you think is wrong. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
You're erasing without reason my writings, continuing for months in every way, do not justify what you do never. How is it that for months I have one and only problem with you and no one else? how it is the rudeness was always and only yours and never with other users?.

Chair Lierna has had a long work of literature search, on wikipedia you should always report the texts in the bibliography present in the notes, and you can not say anything and you erase all!! And this is unacceptable. And then ask to canceled my texts Bianco di Lierna. Maybe if you're in good faith is the case that you check better what you do. Also now you ask to remove wine Bianco Lierna, a wine that is produced as described in references from ancient Rome!!! But I ask yiy what skills and know how do you have to evaluate the high desing Italian (i remember you that you don't know who is ACHILLE CASTIGLIONI!) or Italian wines when you only ever write about goats ?! If you want to collaborate correct grammar and form of my script, but not afford to clear and erase more suddenly without reason nothing otherwise I reserve any action. Best Regards --Alec Smithson (talk) 18:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

IS very clear and transparent what is wrong and what I have written, even in good faith it is trivial and guessed without written. Solve the problem or I reserve any action, against your behavior, rudness and persecution.

--Alec Smithson (talk) 18:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean by "reserve any action"? clpo13(talk) 05:44, 7 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Disruptive editing edit

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October 2015 edit

  Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Alessandro Riguccini. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Are not notables athlete verify! --Alec Smithson (talk) 16:21, 8 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Alec, if you want to write to someone, you have to do it in his talk page. If you do it here you have to use Template:Reply to. --Carlomartini86(Knock-Knock) 07:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Help me! edit

Please help me with...

Alec Smithson (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

good morning

I need you help urgently, i develop for long year and long research the page Lierna, an amazing village. The page was completly destroy and ereased without a real reason. All the content was true and I used a lot of references and bibliography. Please did you can check the history of LIERNA page? and check these? and said something against these vandalism? Thank you, --Alec Smithson (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Having read over what was removed, the content was very promotional and I am not surprised that it was reverted. When editing Wikipedia it is important to maintain a neutral point of view. In other words, phrases like "its precious grapes characteristics" and "a place of relaxation and strong privacy" should be avoided. Wikipedia is not a promotional space, it's an encyclopedia. You are welcome to re-add some of the content, but avoid WEASEL words and FLOWERY language. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
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I have told you again and again (see above) that attribution is required when translating from a Wikipedia in another language. You have always chosen to ignore that advice. Your abominable Google-translation of Lierna Castle from it:Castello di Lierna is unattributed, and is thus a copyright violation. I have blanked it and listed it as such. You should not edit the blanked content until the matter is resolved; you may not remove the template. As several editors have told you, you do not have the necessary WP:COMPETENCE to edit this Wikipedia. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:03, 23 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Too many categories edit

You are adding far too many categories to your articles. Only the most detailed level should be added - so if he is an "Italian sculptor" don't also add "Italian artist". Don't add "Italian art" etc to ANY biographies. Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

ok. Thank you. --Alec Smithson (talk) 16:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Carlo Bazzi/Cariplo (2) edit

Come on, Alec, you knew this is not true. --Carlomartini86(Knock-Knock) 20:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

December 2015 edit

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There are 8 line writing and 10 sources and yoy insert hoaxes ?! did you think is right?!

Look House of Orioles. --Alec Smithson (talk) 14:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hoaxing edit

Alec Smithson, it appears that not all that you write in Wikipedia is true. Would you like to tell us exactly what source states that the supporters of the arms of Giovanni Natoli were:

Dexter a lion rampant gardant Or crowned with the coronet of the Prince of Sperlinga, sinister a griffin winged and unguled Or, gorged with a coronet Or composed of crosses patée and fleurs de lis a chain affixed thereto passing between the forelegs and reflexed over the back also Or

and whether you do not find it just a touch curious that the supporters of the arms of Diana, Princess of Wales were, according to this test-case page,

Dexter a lion rampant gardant Or crowned with the coronet of the Prince of Wales, sinister a griffin winged and unguled Or, gorged with a coronet Or composed of crosses patée and fleurs de lis a chain affixed thereto passing between the forelegs and reflexed over the back also Or?

I suggest that the chances that Natoli had the same supporters as Lady Diana during her marriage to Charles (that on the left from her husband's coat of arms, that on the right from her father's) are disappearingly small. It appears that you are, for whatever reason, trying to make fools of us.

Furthermore, if you copy text within Wikipedia, you must, as you have repeatedly been told, provide attribution. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Lady Diana and Prince Charles (Sic!) edit

But let me satisfied that you saw that the coat of arms is fair, you can not see that is the exact description of the emblem? without anything c'entrino Lady Diana and Prince Charles that you made up you?

Do not you see that the description is harmonized with the graphics of the emblem?

the way you ask is offensive, like you normally do with me. Everything written is true. And sources on the description of the emblem numerous. I not only nothing Dina and Prince Charles, that have nothing to do. when there is something obvious and everyone knows that the powers are useless.

disappearingly? disappearing ??!! I repeat are who sees everything is clean clean and I never play. You're just like always offensive and attack me constantly in every way with foolhardy unjust accusations.check that it is always and only him to continue attacks persecutors always rude to me and against me.

Now you MUST explain what does Lady Diana ?! and what enters the media with a coat of arms Blasonico? heraldry but you know her? the media is not worth anything if not for beauty except in rare cases. What does it has to do with it? Recurring and rampant lions are in many European coats of arms millennial. Also the emblem of the Prince Natoli is more ancient than English.

These is a translation the original in italian (not in latin) is: Il fusato è d’azzurro, alla torre d’argento merlata alla ghibellina, fondata verso il fianco destro dello scudo sopra uno scoglio uscente da unmare in tempesta nella punta il tutto al naturale; al leone d’argento coronato dello stesso fermo sullo scoglio e rampante a sinistra della torre affrontata, battuto dal mare agitato d’argento, fluttuoso di nero uscente dalla punta The site of The Castle of Sperlinga, about the Prince Giovanni Natoli http://www.castellodisperlinga.it/subpagina.php?idmenu=1&&idsubmenu=6 In New York Pubblic ANNUARIO DELLA NOBILTA ITALIANA ANNO XII, 1889 https://books.google.it/books?id=kLgTAAAAYAAJ&q=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento+merlata+alla+ghibellina&dq=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento+merlata+alla+ghibellina&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKqeap7tHJAhXk6HIKHX5yAbMQ6AEIITAB

But you can also see online IN LEOM Heraldic : http://www.leonemarinato.it/ (from Spreti 4°) In Enciclopedia storico-nobiliare italiana: famiglie nobili e titolate viventi riconosciute dal R. g̊overno d'Italia compresi: città, comunità, mense vescovili, abazie, parrocchie ed enti nobili e titolati riconosciuti, Volume 4 BY Vittorio Spreti. https://books.google.it/books?id=AygbAAAAYAAJ&q=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento+merlata+alla+ghibellina&dq=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento+merlata+alla+ghibellina&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKqeap7tHJAhXk6HIKHX5yAbMQ6AEIHDAA • Vittorio Spreti, Enciclopedia storico-nobiliare italiana: famiglie nobili e titolate viventi riconosciute dal R. Gverno d'Italia, Vol. 4, pgg 788 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vittorio_Spreti In • Is write about in Giuseppe GALLUPPI, Nobiliario della città di Messina, Naples, 1977, page 132 • Antonino Mango di Casalgerardo, Nani, Nelson, Nobiliario di Sicilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonino_Mango_di_Casalgerardo and https://books.google.it/books?id=4YwZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA646&dq=rampante+torre+d%E2%80%99argento+merlata+alla+ghibellina&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiR-fCE7tHJAhWGjnIKHcUBBWcQ6AEIHjAA and http://www.famiglia-nobile.com/links.asp?CatId=1006 and https://books.google.it/books?id=cnJJAQAAIAAJ&q=natoli+stemma++leone+rampante&dq=natoli+stemma++leone+rampante&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj54_Kg6NHJAhXH4w4KHTTRA6MQ6AEIHDAA in Annuario della nobiltà italiana https://books.google.it/books?id=H48ZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA859&dq=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZkPSF79HJAhWFhSwKHW3yCnoQ6AEIHDAA in page 97 of Il Bartolomeo Borghesi https://books.google.it/books?id=63HkAEwivE4C&pg=PA97&dq=Natoli+rampante+torre+d%27argento&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZkPSF79HJAhWFhSwKHW3yCnoQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q=Natoli%20rampante%20torre%20d'argento&f=false

--Alec Smithson (talk) 18:08, 10 December 2015 (UTC±)

Alec Smithson, please read what I wrote above. With this edit you added to the page Giovanni Natoli this text: "Dexter a lion rampant gardant Or crowned with the coronet of the Prince of Sperlinga, sinister a griffin winged and unguled Or, gorged with a coronet Or composed of crosses patée and fleurs de lis a chain affixed thereto passing between the forelegs and reflexed over the back also Or" (please don't bother to protest that that was added by an IP, not by you). That text is copied from our article on Diana, Princess of Wales or from Template:Infobox COA wide/testcases, with the one difference that you have replaced the word "Wales" in the original with the word "Sperlinga". This raises two problems:
  • You are adding text to Wikipedia that is demonstrably false; that is a description of the arms of Diana, Princess of Wales, not of Giovanni Natoli
  • You have again copied text within Wikipedia without providing attribution
A further problem is that your translation from the Annuario della nobiltà italiana of 1889, which is presumably in the public domain, is not attributed. As I have told you many times on this page, attribution is REQUIRED. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:06, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletion of House of Orioles edit

 

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Noticeably suggesive of being a joke article as none of the listed links ever mention this especially the one URL and my searches instantly found nothing better at all.

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Unfortunately I also had to question this article's accuracy as my searches found nothing better and the one URL link listed says "page not available". If this is accurate, it would help if you added better sources especially URLs which are quicker and easier to confirm. SwisterTwister talk 19:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
is a really and important page. Is full of evidence and sources. Maybe is wrong 1 links that is possibile to corrects. A link errors is possibile or the links change some times you don't have to think that is wrong.

https://books.google.it/books?id=ZY0aAAAAYAAJ&q=principi+orioles&dq=principi+orioles&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0s4SbitLJAhUDlA8KHa-TD3AQ6AEIPjAI

http://www.famiglia-nobile.com/links.asp?CatId=1036

I checked the links: working http://www.archive.org/stream/ilblasoneinsicil00pali/ilblasoneinsicil00pali_djvu.txt

Where is the link that don't worl or page not available? --Alec Smithson (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

the link dosen't work? why? because where was no a space bar next the URL Check edit

Now is correct and you can check here the offical page of THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT REGION OF ITALY Sicily

http://www.regione.sicilia.it/beniculturali/bibliotecacentrale/mango/oneto.htm

Government official site of Regione Sicily of the Beni Culturali italian Ministery http://www.regione.sicilia.it/

Scroll Down you have Orioles. Do you think is a good think to said is a joke? or to ask to erase a page for an error od a bar space near the URL? jumping conclusion.

Is not a good approach to investigate the truth. --Alec Smithson (talk) 20:10, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Emilio Polli edit

Dear "Alec", why you lie in the article Emilio Polli? You added categories "Olympic medalists in swimming" and "Olympic medalists in water polo", but he newer won olympic medal. You added category "International Swimming Hall of Fame inductees", but was not honoree ([4])And you say, that he was European Aquatics Championships medalists in swimming, but he was not. Why you lie in the article?--Yopie (talk) 21:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

do not you think that he exaggerated in calling me a liar? at no point in the text it is written that he won Olympic medals where? as I have not found category participant in the Olympics I was wrong to put the category.

It seems an easy mistake to occur because the text properly report what I say. You'd be right if it were written in the text that won Olympic medals do not you think? Managing categories is very complicated. In no way are I am a liar and not in any way about I can ve your injuries.

There is no a the category Olympic or participant at the Olympics. Where I wrote in the text these?!! only in the category.

and YES he was in the hall of fame, these online version are not complete. --Alec Smithson (talk) 22:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Dear Yopie why your erase the correct category and you vandalism with the wrong category? * List of Italian records in swimmin --Alec Smithson (talk) 22:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

  • [[Category:Olympic swimmers of Italy]] Any other questions? --Yopie (talk) 23:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
well done, find it enter. It was a mistake not a lie. Let me I would expect your apology.

Any anwer ?List of Italian records in swimmin --Alec Smithson (talk) 23:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Dont understand [5], because no such category was corrupted. By the way, as boy I was taught, that nobles shall not lie and liars are losing honour. --Yopie (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Dear Yopie

a) check about your work https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emilio_Polli&diff=694647850&oldid=694647800 b) exactly so good in fact I never lie. c) Are doubly offended because a lie like that would well short legs and very easy to check medalist worldwide, no?, and was not intended, check omnia munda mundis. d) I expect your apology Best Regards --Alec Smithson (talk) 00:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

no, instead of excuses I ask you to fix a problem of false accusation of copyright that ruin the page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lierna_Castle --Alec Smithson (talk) 00:09, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hoaxing #2 edit

In the article you wrote on Gino Polli, you ascribed to him the Order of Vittorio Veneto, even though, as you were later told here, "Polli died 42 years before the founding of the Order of Vittorio Veneto. the statute establishing the Order did not provide for posthumous awards". I note that you have not since supported your claim with any reliable source, nor attempted to have that medal restored to the article. Do you understand that it appears that you may be attempting intentionally to deceive other editors and the readers of Wikipedia?

You also attributed to him the Croce di Guerra al Valor Militare, which was instituted in 1922, after the end of the First World War, and can be awarded only in time of war ("La croce di guerra al valor militare non si conferisce altro che in tempo di guerra" – you do understand Italian, right?). I asked you here "… in what war did Polli receive that medal, and what is your source for this claim?" I note that you have not troubled to reply. Again, by not doing so, you make it appear that you may have intentionally added false information to that page (for what reason I cannot begin to imagine). To avoid this suspicion, please cite the reliable sources which support this claim. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

I've surprised when you ask a thing not only polite but also right, you've made a good point. All the People involved in Battle of Vittorio Veneto had to become knight of the Order of Vittorio Veneto. But Gino Polli yes died before these law, and I studied recently this week that the official law documents details that said that is not postumus awards, so really he was not Knight of the Order of Vittorio Veneto, these is wrong. We need to erase these award. he was entitled to the medal, I had not found that the statute did not delivered posthumously and have occurred recently.

then I correct. --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:29, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

I checked now, I correct these in past! is not in the dept. Honors and awards is NOT ascribed to him the Order of Vittorio Veneto, where you see?!?! --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:32, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Not to say that I have intentionally put false news because then I consider DEFAMATION! ... always add a piece to your offensive writings. Thank you. And more than legitimate that I checked only after the Official Gazette with the law that takes away the right posthumously. However I REPEAT do not understand where you saw this because I had already corrected itself. --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:40, 11 December 2015 (UTC) "Alec Smithson, do you agree that with this edit 2. Point: Croce al merito di guerra is not the same medal that you said, there 2 different medals of Valore di Guerra. These medal is NOT instituted in 1922 ! These is a different medal called " Croce al Merito di Guerra " and was instituted on 19 January 1918 at the end of World War I. I checked and these 3 medals are ok. It was released to the military and militarized which had been recognized service for at least five months in a war zoneReply

3. I wonder what you are interested in these justifications since you have proposed the deletion of this historical document?

I summarize I've still accused of fraudulently cite false facts. I refuted this is the first that I alone had already corrected, given that you were right in the observation but without looking at the current documents I denied the second because you have confused two different medals. Perhaps once again I expect an apology from unjust accusations, always and only of you.

Now at least try to save this historic document erasure, thanks. --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:50, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Alec Smithson, I don't think it is I who is confused. Do you agree that with this edit you added the text "Croce di Guerra al Valor Militare" to the article Gino Polli? And that the Croce di guerra al valor militare was instituted by royal decree 195 dated 7 January 1922? Do you not see that, unless you explain how and when Polli received that medal and how you know it, it looks as if you are intentionally misleading us? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Dear Justlettersandnumbers, I do not think it's easy for your wife. I really wonder what is your job.

1. the first medal is not answered because you ask me about something that I already erased first ?! Now there is in the text Vittorio Veneto. Has at least the courtesy to respond to clarify. So in the first question I erase without you and your usually attack and are NOT intentionally misleading us? 2. NO war Cross Merit, but 3 War Merit Cross Medal . Are 2 differents kind of medals, and NOT was instituted on 19 January 1918 by Royal Decree of the King Vittorio Emanuele Re d'Italia in January 19, 1918 (I Write you up before), with the numbers 205. It was granted to all combatants Italians who had honorably served on active duty for a minimum period of usually five months in a war zone. 3 crosses x 12 months x 3. Satis est. What do you say I'll see you in person for a meeting? So as he received the medal? The medal he received for five months on the battlefield at the front, but you can not receive more than one medal every 12 months, then in three years at the front are received in each case 3 medals. More than 3 you can not have. And clear and not misleading, and everyone knows it. But how is it that you are always and only you to ask these questions? and with this tone? Think about it. Get a life. --Alec Smithson (talk) 20:04, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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A WRONG WAY edit

Incorrectness and 'witnessed by internet page of Gino Polli discussion to a page that has the same the early commissioning CANCELLATION. THESE are the evils of wikipedia. that utilities had questions about Gino Polli and medals? --Alec Smithson (talk) 17:02, 13 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Natoli edit

What is meant by "Italian of XVII" in "Giovanni Natoli, the noble Italian of XVII" ? JMK (talk) 12:07, 31 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

He was the First Prince of Sperlinga in the XVII century (also called Giovanni Forte Natoli or Gianforte Natoli). ask this? there's another John II, always prince.

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fix more clearly.

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