Talk:Yama (Buddhism)

(Moved from Yan Luo (Chinese mythology) RandomCritic 07:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC))

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Should this article be redirected/merged with Yama, which uses the original Hindu name? --Tokek 00:37, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the merging make sense because the mythology changed and developed separately. Likewise, do you think the article on US and UK should be merged just because the US traces back to the British colonies? For same reason, Yan Luo and Yama should be separate. Kowloonese 00:49, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Well US and UK are obviously different countries, while Yanluo and Yama are referring to the same entity, so there's a difference. I just thought it might be more convenient to have one page for all the information regarding Yama especially if there's going to be overlap of information however having a link to Yama works as well, I suppose.--Tokek 12:22, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Due to his interpretation trough the filter of chinese religion, Yanluo ends up being a deity quite different from the original hinduist Yama Miuki 10:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC):

This article should be titled Yen Lo-Wang instead of Yan Luo. Even at the cited source, http://www.godchecker.com, the entry is listed as Yen Lo-Wang and Yan Luo is listed as an alternate of it. Wikipedia goes by the most common name, and Yen Lo-Wang is the most commonly used name for the diety, not Yan Luo.--SunWuKong 06:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Korean myth?

he isn't in Korean myth but he's in CHinese and jpn...odd--Dangerous-Boy 23:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Revert & Pop culture uses of "Enma"

I reverted Tyciol's changes, not because they didn't address a real problem but because there's a better way to solve it. First, Yama doesn't return to this page, but to a different one that happens to have the same picture on it. Maybe the position of the picture should be shifted so as to avoid the confusion. (I would have preferred that a picture of the Hindu Yama be used on that page, but one doesn't seem to be available.)

The Enma thing is different. The name seems to be used a good deal in Japanese anime, sometimes but not always for a variation on the Yama character (obviously not in the case of Monkey King Enma). I've made a disambiguation page for Enma and pointed the variants of that name (many of which are used in anime too) there.RandomCritic 20:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

popular culture

should we mention the very popular journey to the west where in the beginning, he encountered Yama and demand his name be crossed out? Yiyun 12:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Please go ahead and write it up! RandomCritic 16:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Korean spelling

In Korean, the same characters are pronounced Yomra and the deity is usually referred to as the Great King Yomra or 염라대왕. Regarding the transliteration of 염라. The r should be n. And the first vowel is either eo (S.Korean standard) or ŏ (McCune–Reischauer). So I would spell this either Yeomna or Yŏmna. Is there a tradition of spelling it Yomra in English literature? Otherwise I'll change it. languagegeek (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Yamantak Vajrabhairav

This article goes a bit confused. Yama Yamantaka Vajrabhairav ​​is not but is in the direction of Shiva Bhairava - it is a deity dharmakaya. It should not be mixed up with Yama.

In the Tibetan Buddhist myth, the wrathful aspect of the Wisdom Buddha Manjushri Yamantaka has subdued Yama and made ​​him a protector of the Dharma.

Yamantak Vajrabhairav

This article goes a bit confused. Yama Yamantaka Vajrabhairav ​​is not but is in the direction of Shiva Bhairava - it is a deity dharmakaya. It should not be mixed up with Yama.

In the Tibetan Buddhist myth, the wrathful aspect of the Wisdom Buddha Manjushri Yamantaka has subdued Yama and made ​​him a protector of the Dharma. In art, Yamantaka usually is shown standing or riding a bull that is trampling Yama. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manbu (talk • contribs) 20:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Misleading redirect

In the first sentence there is a redirection for dharmapala to "wrathful god". A dharmapala is literally a dharma protector. Not all dharma protectors are wrathful, even though many do display a wrathful aspect. Dharmapala's are also not gods, as many are seen to be enlightened beings themselves, whereas gods in Buddhism inhabit the god and demi-god realms and are not enlightened beings, but still trapped in samsara. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.132.247.182 (talk) 00:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Spellings/transliterations

Emma-O redirects here, and see also comments above. We should cover these naming varieties in the article. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 17:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC).

"King of Hell"

The usage and primary topic of "King of Hell" is under discussion, see talk:King of Hell (disambiguation) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 17 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. Mahveotm (talk) 17:03, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Yama (East Asia) → Yama (Buddhism) – The article covers more information than just East-Asia, such as the Theravada tradition, which is practically non-existent in East-Asia. There is another article Yama (Hinduism), so it would fit well. Farang Rak Tham (talk) 12:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Mahveotm (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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"Lord Yama"

Is there a reason Yama is referred to as "Lord Yama" in #In_popular_culture? "Lord" is only otherwise mentioned in the Japanese superstition in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserDude (talk • contribs) 07:06, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 25 July 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved(closed by non-admin page mover) Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 07:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Yama (Buddhism) → King Yama (Buddhism) – I think we should consider moving the page name to King Yama (Buddhism) in order to avoid confusion with the page Yāma, an unrelated Buddhist heavenly realm. The figure's full name is Yamaraja (King Yama) anyways and it seems sources generally call the figure by that name. [1] [2] Wikiman5676 (talk) 04:51, 25 July 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 04:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. "King Yama" is not that common. Searching google books for "yama", "Buddhism", I didn't see any mentions of "King Yama." The relevant entry in "A Dictionary of Buddhism" by Damien Keown for example is "yama", not "King Yama". [3]. "A Dictionary of Chinese Buddhist Term" doesn't either.[4] Nor does The Pimlico Dictionary Of Classical Mythologies[5].2001:240:2415:919:1959:E1CE:5F01:9658 (talk) 05:46, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Comment. I dont totally agree with that since if found this mention here. [6] which for me was the first hit when searching "yama" and "buddhism". But now that i think of it, there could be other ways to fix the confusion. such as renaming Yāma to Yāma (heaven) or something like that. Wikiman5676 (talk) 19:05, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose I agree that there are better ways of disambiguating the heavenly realm- use of diacritics is often inconsistent in links and searches, so I don't think we should rely on only that. My own impression is that I see 'Yama' much more frequently than 'King Yama' in sources, and Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(people)#Titles_and_styles suggests we shouldn't include a title like 'King' in the article name unless that is clearly the most common unique identifier (like Mother Teresa). --Spasemunki (talk) 03:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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