Talk:Water Under the Bridge

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 00:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Adele's song "Water Under the Bridge" became part of a TikTok trend almost five years after its release? Source: HuffPost for the trend, and All Access for the release date
  • ALT1: ... that Adele's song "Water Under the Bridge" is about her relationship with Simon Konecki, which she is usually reluctant to discuss in her music? Source: Vogue
  • ALT2: ... that the song "Water Under the Bridge" is about Adele wanting her partner to be horrible, while waiting for their relationship to end? Source: Harper's Bazaar
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mildred Newman

Improved to Good Article status by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 12:57, 9 September 2022 (UTC).

• Not much to say here. Recent good article, hooks cited as required. Can't decide which one is best, so approve all three. –LordPeterII (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 7 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved Water Under the Bridge (song) → Water Under the Bridge and Water Under the Bridge → Water Under the Bridge (disambiguation) per nom. No such user (talk) 10:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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• Water Under the Bridge (song) → Water Under the Bridge
• Water Under the Bridge → Water Under the Bridge (disambiguation)

– There are only two articles with this title. One is a featured article of a chart topping single. The other is a stub. The song is the clear primary topic. Tree Critter (talk) 22:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

• water under the bridge? Adele's song was 39 in the UK. Not feeling a Primary Topic here. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support as per nom. 162 etc. (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 July 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus to not move to Water Under the Bridge (Adele song) (as per amended nomination) was reflected by stronger policy-based arguments, centered on pageviews, WP:DIFFCAPS indicating a lack of potential confusion with the idiom, and the fact that we do not have an article on the idiom, holding that the previous RM listed above is still the status quo. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 17:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Water Under the Bridge → Water Under the Bridge (song)
• Water Under the Bridge (disambiguation) → Water Under the Bridge

– The Adele gets the most page views, but by long-term significance not sure there's a PRIMARYTOPIC, especially since there's a fairly common expression listed on WikiLinks that is more significant IMO. Ortizesp (talk) 19:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• The proposed title is WP:INCOMPLETEDIS with Water Under the Bridge (Sam Hunt song), which the nominator did not mention. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Amendment needs to be done perhaps for the proposed title. I think it would be Water Under the Bridge (Adele song). Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to @Ortizesp for the above changes. @BarrelProof may then re!vote after the changes. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

No issue here with moving to the Adele song to Water Under the Bridge (Adele song), although I suspect it's the PRIMARY song. Ortizesp (talk) 12:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Songs, WikiProject Women in Music, and WikiProject Adele have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support move to Water Under the Bridge (Adele song); the previous move was an exercise in recentism. The primary topic for the phrase is almost certainly going to be the idiom itself. BD2412 T 02:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Move to Water Under the Bridge (Adele song) per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Per good faith request on WP:RM/TR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose (thank you @SafariScribe: for kindly reopening). I think the RM last year, which moved this page in the first place had it spot on. The Adele song is the clear leader amongst topics with this name in page views - [1], with almost 70% of all hits. And I see nothing in the other topics to suggest that a long-term significance angle is relevant here. The 1980s Australian miniseries stub doesn't seem like it's hugely relevant, and the Sam Hunt song is more recent than the Adele one, rendering a WP:RECENTISM angle on that redundant too. Finally, it was suggested above that the idiom water under the bridge might be in the mix too... I would dispute that, given that we don't have an article on that idiom, it's not really an encyclopedic topic, and WP:NOTDICT suggests we shouldn't consider pure dictionary definitions in our thinking. Not to mention there might be a WP:DIFFCAPS consideration with that one, as this article is rendered in title case. All in all, I see no reason to revert the correct move made last year.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Amakuru. The idiom wouldn't be in Title Case, and amongst the various pieces of media the Adele song is the clear primary topic (for example, the Sam Hunt song failed to make the Billboard Top 100, whereas the Adele song spent 22 weeks on the chart). --Ahecht (TALK
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• Oppose - concurring with both Amakuru and Ahecht. The Sam Hunt song is more recent yet significantly less popular. The idiom would be capitalised differently and we do not even have an article about it.--NØ 07:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. I concur with Amakuru and Ahecht that the Adele song is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The idiom holds a different title under WP:DIFFCAPS, and no evidence has been furnished to suggest it would be an encyclopedic topic itself rather than a WP:DICDEF. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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