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As usual, the initiator is someone merely passing by and doesn't bother to write anything. I would suggest to find more reliable sources and not merge. She looks notable enough to me, it's just that the article is in bad state. (Come on, it has been almost 30 years since Eternal were popular. But the article gets 50 views per day on average nevertheless.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I insist on keeping the article, I can try improving it like i did to the Former Ladies of the Supremes article. Well, I am not sure about how I find this article in any other tags this user put. TheGreatestLuvofAll (chat with me) 06:17, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
The article has 14 sources, but I have not much to think if there are unreliable ones. TheGreatestLuvofAll (chat with me) 06:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Okay. I, too, am against merging. But it would be nice if you expand the article a little bit or make it neater looking at least. Now most of it talks about Eternal and is redundant. Maybe redundant, I am not sure. But most of the lead section should be moved to somewhere lower down. --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
You did a great job with that article, btw. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
It is also worth noting that the notability tag was added by someone who is now blocked for paid editing. (It doesn't really look to me like he was actually getting paid, but there was possibly some connection to the former executive producer of the band Eternal.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:27, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Correction. Now I don't think there was a connection to the band's former executive producer, as the user seems to be anti-Ingoldsby. See this → [1]. --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
More is here: User talk:Punk Rock London#Tags. I then removed the tags from "Kéllé Bryan" cause she is automatically notable as someone who's solo single has charted in the UK, but in this case I wasn't sure... And the Kéllé Bryan article looked very neat unlike this one. --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:34, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I agree to removing the tags. (I should have done it myself when I saw what the user had done, but I don't like to argue. Kéllé Bryan was an easy case, but this article didn't look too good.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I removed the tags and re-arranged the article a bit. But it still needs work, in my opinion. The second paragraph of the lead should be incorporated in the "Career" section and then the lead should be expanded with a short overview of Vernie's career. And it would be nice if more references were added in order to demonstrate her notability. (As the article is now, the LGBTQ+ controversy looks to be her best claim for notability... But for sure it is not so.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 08:05, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I don’t think this ‘controversy’ should be listed under Vernie. It is an Eternal issue, brought to the public by Louise and Kelly. Why isn’t it under Eternal Controversy? MOleary7 (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Closing merge discussion (as nominator) consensus to keep as standalone article. Boleyn (talk) 08:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
