Talk:Turkish Cup

Requested move

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Fortis Turkey Cup → Türkiye Kupası — All other major football competitions are under the unsponsored name, eg Football League Cup not "Carling Cup", Coppa Italia not "TIM Cup", I see no compelling reason why this one should be treated any differently — ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

The result of the proposal was consensus to move.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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• Support per nom. пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support. It is better to avoid using sponsor names, as they change often. --Carioca (talk) 20:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

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Turkish Cup

The name of this article must be the "Turkish Cup"... No one understands "Türkiye Kupası" (except the Turks) in English. Böri (talk) 14:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

2010 Turkish Cup Final

I see no reason why this particular year would be notable enough to justify it's own article. It should be merged with the main Turkish Cup article. LeilaniLad (talk) 01:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Individual finals can be notable enough for an article, assuming that they have been well-covered by reliable sources. The problem in the short term is that people will just add the team line-ups and match score but very little else (and I have been guilty of this myself sometimes) so we have lots of match articles that are basically stubs. But as shown at 1956 FA Cup Final and others, it is possible for a cup final article to attain featured status, so it may be worth first trying to find what information is out there. --Jameboy (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's notable enough to be honest. I could understand an article about the FA Cup final because it's much more popular and it's more renowned worldwide, whereas the Turkish Cup is pretty much limited to the country. As it stands now, the article is just a lead with line-ups. The other finals (2008 Turkish Cup Final, 2007 Turkish Cup Final) are just a few paragraphs. I think it would be a good idea to, instead of merging into the main article, have it merged with that seasons article. This way the season article as well as the final could make for a fine article in itself, instead of having separate short articles scattered around. Invisibletr (talk) 01:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm okay with this merger. — Ekin^(talk·@) 19:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed move

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The result of the move request was: Move to Turkish Cup SilkTork *^YES! 08:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

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Türkiye Kupası → Turkish Cup — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC) Competition is know as Turkish Cup in English, so should be moved there, according to WP:UCN. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 09:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I oppose this move. Copa del Rey isn't called the Cup of Kings, Coppa Italia isn't called the Italian Cup, so the Türkiye Kupası shouldn't be called the Turkish Cup. Invisibletr (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment Copa del Rey and Coppa Italia are the names commonly used in English (see here and here) but the Turkish equivalent is commonly known as the Turkish Cup in English (see here), not Türkiye Kupası. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 15:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I just find it a bit weird that we would have Süper Lig and the Turkish Cup (instead of Süper Lig and Türkiye Kupası. Invisibletr (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Agree- This move is also supported by WP:English, and is less confusing to readers. I have no idea how you even type in that last "i" shaped character. --WikiDonn (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Around 1997 when recording students' queries I sometimes had to type that character when answering queries by a Turkish student (Ramazan Kayıkcı) whose surname contained it twice. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

• " This move is also supported by WP:English" - you misunderstand WP:UE. The policy does not mandate the use of any combinaiton of English words - it tells us to use the name used most in English texts. Knepflerle (talk) 23:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
• Furthermore, you can find ı in the edit box below the "save page" button on the edit screen along with any other character you should ever want - but you don't particularly need to use it either, as a link such as Turkiye Kupasi works thanks to redirects. Knepflerle (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

• Anymore evidence of usage of the two phrases in English?
  • Obviously it's not conclusive but compare searching for "Türkiye Kupası" in Google News (in English) 0 results with "Turkish Cup" a huge 16 results. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 15:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Hardly conclusive as you say, but at least it's something. The proposed move seems sensible enough, then, in the absence of anything more revealing. Knepflerle (talk) 14:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
• Comment: whatever the outcome will be, make sure to move also all the season articles (e.g. 2008–09 Türkiye Kupası) and the finals (e.g. 2009 Turkish Cup Final) accordingly. — Luxic (talk) 13:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
• See All pages with titles containing Türkiye Kupası. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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More seasons

Someone from Turkey please to create more seasons in Turkish Cup! People request to read more about it ! There is not so many editions, and not many editions to create! I do same for my country, and I have to create many many other pages ! We have to cooperate ! Thank you very much !!--Alexiulian25 (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2015 (UTC)