Talk:Teresa Mañé

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Morogris (talk · contribs) 21:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Review

Will review shortly. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 21:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Biography (now Early life and Career setions)

• My first comment is the title of this section should be rephrased. We know this is a biography, so we need to rename it and possibly section it. I changed the names but only as a placeholder. Please change them as you see appropriate.

• I disagree with this change to be honest. I don't think this split has helped, as it just arbitrarily cut the first paragraph into its own section and left the rest of the biography as is under "Career". If I thought the biography was long enough to warrant sectioning, I would have already done so. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Teresa Mañé i Miravet was born in Cubelles, into a relatively well-off family, who raised her in nearby Vilanova i la Geltrú.[1] - Does this source cite the DOB? It was included in the infobox but not here, so it is technically unsourced.

• Puente Pérez 2016, p. 21 cites the date of birth as 29 November 1865. Montagut Contreras 2015 simply cites the year 1865. I can clarify this in any way you think would help. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• after meeting a number of Catalan anarchists, such as Josep Llunas i Pujals and Teresa Claramunt. - Is there a mention of when this occurred? I think it would be important to highlight when in her life she became an anarchist.

• This mostly occurred in 1888. I can clarify that, but as it was covered in between the dates of 1886 and 1889 I didn't think it was necessary. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• daily newspaper Tierra y Libertad [ca]. - An article has already been created so we can delete the foreign-language Wikipedia page linked here

• Done. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• where the Italian Gruppo Emancipazione della Donna was based - Could we add a description of what that means? An Italian what?

• Clarified with a translation of the group's name. Let me know how you think I should proceed further. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• But after a lawsuit against Joan by Arturo Soria y Mata threatened his arrest - Replace "Joan" with "Montseny" per previous uses.

• I used "Joan" as I thought "Montseny" might be ambiguous with their daughter Federica Montseny. Should I change it anyway? --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Teresa Mañé i Miravet died on 5 February 1939 in Perpinyà.[31] - We should use "Mañé" only per previous uses.

• Done. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Views

• In July 1923, Mañé published El sindicalismo y la anarquia in La Revista Blanca - I'm not fully aware, but should we add an English translation alongside the Spanish name of her paper? Something like "Unionism and anarchy" (or is it "syndicalism")?

• municipio libre - Ditto. Translation would help readers not familiar with Spanish. I was thinking we could even red link this since I'm sure it could have its own article. Spanish Wikipedia "municipio libre" redirects here

• Mañé published Hablemos de la mujer in La Revista Blanca, - Curious if we could add the translation here too

• Added explicitly tagged English language translations for all of these. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Works

• This entire section is unsourced. Please add appropriate sources after every bullet point, or maybe if there is a single source that cites all her works/translations, etc.

• Also, we need to make sure the dates are fully cited. For example, the mention that La Revista Blanca started 1898 is cited before, but not when it ended in 1906. We know she wrote a piece in 1923, but this doesn't mean the newspaper was opened again. No mention of 1936.

• The last part, in Conferences, has an external link that needs to be converted to a inline citation.

• @Morogris: This section is now fully cited. I also commented out the external link. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

GA assessment

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Concerns have been addressed. Article is promoted to GA status. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 15:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 00:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the first secular school in Catalonia was founded by the anarcha-feminist Teresa Mañé? Source: Greene 1998, p. 107
  • ALT1: ... that anarchist feminism was first developed by the Catalan teacher Teresa Mañé? Source: Greene 1998, p. 106
  • ALT2: ... that Spanish health minister Frederica Montseny was homeschooled according to the progressive education methods by her mother Teresa Mañé? Source: Davies 1998, pp. 138–139
  • ALT3: ... that Teresa Mañé objected to her daughter becoming the Spanish minister of health, due to her anti-statist convictions? Source: Davies 1998, p. 140
  • ALT4: ... that Catalan anarchist Teresa Mañé continued to publish the radical magazine La Revista Blanca during the dictatorship of Primo de Rivera? Source: Davies 1998, p. 139
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leo Sirota

Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Teresa Mañé; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Congratulations on the promotion to Good Article! I haven't noticed anything seriously wrong in my own review. It's new enough (recent GA status), it's long enough, it has thorough use of reliable sources, Earwig and my own reading notices no flagrant copyright violations or serious paraphrasing issues, and the hooks are interesting. I am assuming good faith with the sources written in Catalan and Spanish (which I do not read), but I did sight verify the references to Lee 2009, Ackleberg 2005, and Davies 2000 (with the exception of pages 140–141, which I could not view on my Google Books preview). My only critical comment at this stage is that I think the last sentence of the first paragraph under views ("During the Spanish Revolution of 1936...") could be helped by an additional reference confirming that Mañé's organizing took place during the 1936 Spanish Revolution, which does not seem to quite be stated on pages 44–45 of Ackleberg 2005. However, DYK's standard of quality does not require the article to be perfect, and I trust that you can either point out something I have missed or readily resolve the matter, plus it does not impinge on any of the suggested hooks. I personally would hesitate to use ALT1, since the article itself notes that Teresa Claramunt was also involved in the early development of anarchist feminism, and the beginnings of thought and movements are fuzzy things. All other hooks are great. I'm personally most fond of ALT0 and ALT4. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Article title

Wouldn't "Soledad Gustavo" be the common name for this subject, given how it's used in the sources cited for the article? czar 23:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@Czar: I'm not actually sure on this one to be honest. I don't think it's clear cut which is the common name. Some sources use "Soledad Gustavo" more, while others use "Teresa Mañé" more, and some even use one of the other exclusively. Personally my instinct is to keep it as is, mostly because the CFA Teresa Mañé in Vilanova is named after her actual name, not her pseudonym, and as Ginés Puente Pérez mostly uses Mañé, in what is (I think) the only long-form biography on her. When texts use both, they usually use "Soledad Gustavo" in relation to her writings, while for her other activities they use "Teresa Mañé". -- Grnrchst (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2023 (UTC)