Talk:Strait of Messina Bridge

Fixed link across elsewhere?

Can anyone add more info on the possible plans of contructing a tunnel and/or bridge across to the other side elswhere? I am quite curious as to whether any steps have been taken to decide to build infrastructure links across the:

• Fehmarn Belt
• Cook Strait
• Palk Strait
• Strait of Tartary
• Irish Sea
• Strait of Bonifacio
• Surigao and San Bernardino Straits
• Hainan Strait
• Strait of Georgia
• Kvarken
• Chacao Channel bridge
• Strait of Magellan
• Bering Strait

Anyone with inside knowledge on any of these? I've posted similar requests elsewhere. Gruesome Twosome! 8v] //Big Adamsky 20:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Project stopped

My recent update has been reverted. Serves me right for not providing a source, I guess. Here's one, then: "Italy's new transport minister says Messina straits bridge will not be built". Bianchi is reported as saying that the bridge "will not be built. It is the most useless and damaging project in Italy in the last hundred years." This has been reported by other news agencies as well. Rl 09:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

There is the possibility that the project will be stopped. But one (or two in this case, as far as I know) ministers who says that he doesn't like the bridge are not enought to state that it will be stopped.

The cited source doesn't say that there are others in the new government supporting the project. (I think for example Giuliano Amato, when in charge as prime minister started the project). So that's why I reverted it. Actually it's more a problem of improper journalism.. beside that you should always provide a source. --Trifi 09:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The transport minister being one of the persons being sceptical (and I assume the bridge would be in his portfolio) I have included a phrase to alert readers that construction may possibly not start as planned. As long as we do not hear from Prodi himself that the project is going ahead I think we have to include a cautionary statement. --Klaus with K 14:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Trifi, a transport minister has all the power he needs to block this project. If a transport minister's opinion has no weight on such an important project for the transport framework of Italy, I don't know what has. --80.202.223.241 20:23, 1 June 2006 (signiture added by Trifi 07:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC))

It's not that easy, probably it's not under the transport minister's competence but under the infrastructure minister's one. I think the current version states clearly that there is the possibility that the project will not (now) be realised. So that is the most exact description we can give by now. --Trifi 07:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Running water

I see an editor questions the statement that many Sicilians lack running water. Come on! It doesn't take long to find out the sad state of the Sicilian aqueducts. You don't have to be in Africa to live in the Third World. Just go for a wander around Washington DC one winter morning and count the homeless living in the snow on park benches, national monuments and bus shelters. --Jumbo 21:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think that there is a town in Sicily were you don't have running water. What happens if there is a dry winter/spring is described on the page you linked to. So you may have water shortage in summer time with alternating water supply, but there have been improvements in water supply after the last very dry summer (maybe the one cited on the link you gave). --Trifi 11:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless, that is a source for towns without running water. Having water once every twenty days is very Third World, wouldn't you say? And, as I pointed out, just because a nation has high standards of living for some, doesn't mean that all enjoy the same standards. --Jumbo 16:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Grammar - Antiques

Someone really should rewrite the whole section - the grammar is just bad to the point of illegible. I tried to rewrite it but gave up after the first three sentences because I do not understand what the original author meant.

84.73.199.167 09:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC) (mike.s@vollbio.de)

The level of incoherence suggests it was translated using some automated means, like a free online translator. It's pretty abominable. 18.173.1.42 17:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Problem with alternative suggestions section

This section seems to be machine translated. Somebody please find the original source and do a proper translation. --216.239.55.7 08:52, 14 November 2007 (signiture added by Astronaut 12:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

It's on my list of things to do. Astronaut 12:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I fully editied some of the more interesting sections of the Italian article and summarised the rest. Now that Berlusconi has allocated funding to the project, I have also tried to clean up the whole article. - Ipigott (talk) 12:08, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Berlusconi still wants it built?

Aparently the project has been "unscrapped".[1] - Gennarous (talk) 04:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Great Hanshin earthquake

What about adding a link to the Great Hanshin earthquake in the "See also" section?
The earthquake measured 6.8 on the Moment magnitude scale (USGS), and Mj7.3 on the revised (7.2 on the old) JMA magnitude scale. and seems like the bridge project is thought to resist only to a 7,1 magnitudo earthquake...
Thanks for the attention anyway.
Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 09:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why an earthquake in Japan would need to be referenced in this article. It seems a pretty random choice. It is the history of quakes greater than magnitude 7.1 elsewhere in the world as well as Italy which causes concern amongst the critics of the bridge, especially because the Strait of Messina is a known earthquake zone. It is perhaps worth pointing out that the bridge will also be just 60 km from Europe's most active volcano, Etna.

I removed the references you cited in your comment above. They are unnecessary because that earthquake's magnitude is well referenced in its own article.

Astronaut (talk) 02:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

The bridge is not part of Line 1 of TEN-T anymore

According to a recent video (min 1:27-1:46) released by the Italian newspaper "La Repubblica", the bridge is no longer part of the Line 1 of Trans-European Transport Networks (TEN-T): "Brussels has deleted the bridge changing the European big infrastructures geography. EU commission has redesigned the communication axes substituting the Berlin-Palermo corridor with Helsinki-Valletta, hence practically deleting from its strategic plans the work between Sicily and Calabria."

The 9th of September 2011 Italian Transports Minister Altero Matteoli has sent a letter to EU Commission Vice President Siim Kallas asking for the inclusion of the corridor Berlin-Palermo into the Helsinki-Valletta [from the Italian Infrastructures and Transports official web site]

See also:

• Italian fury at European Commission's plan to ‘divert’ bridge funds to Malta

• Italians rage as Commission prefers Helsinki–Valletta route to bridge over the Straits of Messina

Krige (talk) 15:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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