Talk:Sixto Escobar

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Caribbean H.Q. in topic Overall review
Good articleSixto Escobar has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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February 7, 2009Good article nomineeListed

GA nomination

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Well, here we have a compact but concise biography covering one of Puerto Rico's athletic forbearers. In all honesty, I'm surprised that we have been able to bring it up to 18,000 bytes, almost all of the biographies out there are terribly short and undetailed, giving us a limited supply for references, but Fonseca's book is an impressive compendium. Based on the size and detail of this article (particularly when compared with other so-called "bios" in the web) and the unfortunate lack of further details, I'm submitting this for community consideration based on all the work that has been put into improving it and the fact that it has apparently become the broadest Sixto Escobar biography in the net. Thanks to Tony and everyone that cooperated in this task, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Review by Truco (talk · contribs)

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Early life
Professional
  • Escobar turned professional on September 1, 1930, in a fight card organized at the Victory Garden gym in San Juan. - how did he turn professional just by one white? what classified him as a professional?
  • On November 11, 1931, Escobar competed against Enrique Chaffardet for the Venezuelan Bantamweight title, but lost by decision. - 1)title should be capitalize 2)by "decision" makes no sense, how can he win/lose "by decision"?
  • After 17 fights he returned to Puerto Rico and competed in five cards. - comma after fights
  • General comment: Some of the boxing terms needs to be linked, like card (sports).
  • In the meanwhile, Tony Rojas, a friend of his managers Gustavo Jiménez and Arturo Gigante convinced them to release Escobar of the contract which binded them. - comma after "Gigante"
  • Since Escobar turned professional while he was still legally minor, his father had has to sign the unbinding agreement. - 1)add "a" before legally 2)remove has (not grammatically correct)
  • This was an eliminatory card organized by the Montreal Athletic Commission, which was to determine a contender for their vacant Bantamweight world championship, against first contender Baby Casanova who attended the card. - capitalize world championship and add a comma before who
  • This marked Leitham's last fight. Folloing this result, the NBA immediately called for a fight between Escobar and Casanova - since the acronym is in use here, you need to elaborate the acronym earlier like "National Boxing Association (NBA)"
  • The fight took place on June 26, 1934, and it was organized in Montreal, Canada. Escobar scored a knckdown in the third round, the fight concluded in the ninth round when Casanova lost by knockout. - typo on knockdown and replace the comma before the fight concluded with a semi colon
  • On August 8, 1934, he defeated Eugene Hart by points in a non-title match organized in Canada. - this needs to be elaborated as to what points mean in the term of boxing or at least linked somewhere
  • He spent a month in inactivity while recovering and in the winter he returned to Puerto Rico. - comma before and
  • The current governor ordered to have all government buildings closed so that public employees could attend a welcoming ceremony. - this should be "the governor" because he probably isn't the governor anymore, in addition what was his name?
  • On August 7, 1935, Escobar defeated Peter Santol, who was considered Canada's best bantaweight and held the Canadian Boxing Federation & Montreal Athletic Commission world titles, by unanimous decision in 12 rounds. - instead of repeating the names of the companies over and over use the acronym, but elaborate the acronym earlier in the article
  • However, Escobar wasn't still considered the division's undisputed champion because Baltazar Sangchili had defeated Panama Al Brown and was recognized by the International Boxing Union. - the still should be before wasn't, remember my note about the acronyms
  • Wanting to be recognized as such, Escobar pursued an title unification fight against Tony Marino, who had defeated Sangchili by knockout in his previous fight. - "a" not an
  • Shortly after, he recovered from this loss, he returned to the gym and defeated Johnny Defoe in a preparaty contest. - remove the comma before loss and add "and" before he. Replace the and with a semicolon and add "he" before defeated
  • After this fight, he received The Ring's bantamweight championship, which was presented by the magazine's editor, Nat Fleischer. - is The Ring Bantamweight Championship the official name, if so, it needs to be capitalized properly
Death

Overall review

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    Per comments above.
    B. MoS compliance:  
    Per comments above.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    The image in the inofbox is going to need an updated rationale. Also ask the uploader of the statue image to give a rationale for his image.
    • The statue's image was taken by Tony himself, he e-mailed me a unmodified (without the yellow-ish tint) copy before uploading it here. Thus, the license should be {{PD-self}} or {{self2}} (which is the current one). - Caribbean~H.Q. 21:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
  1. B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
  2. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
    Potential GA, but prose problems. Once they are resolved, I can pass.TRUCO 01:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the delay, for some reason all of the nominations are being attended during this week. I will work with it calmy tommorow. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
That's fine. :)--TRUCO 19:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Passing nomination, however, I would still like to see a general copyedit be done. Best, --TRUCO 22:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thanks man, sorry for the delayed response. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Reply