Talk:Shehbaz Sharif

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Edit request on 7 May 2013

Shahbaz Sharif joins protest against load-shedding ssss

On 5 May 2012, Shahbaz Sharif has said that load-shedding, poverty and unemployment have made the life of the people miserable and it has become difficult for the poor to make both ends meet. He has said democracy is the name of service to the masses but the rulers sitting in Islamabad have made it a source of loot and plunder. In May 2012, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has termed loadshedding in the province a conspiracy hatched by the federation and President Asif Ali Zardari. Punjab Chief Minister, Shahbaz Sharif Saturday said a visible reduction in loadshedding and complete end to the unscheduled power outages by the Federal government after protests was a clear proof of government's ill intent. On 2 June 2012, Punjab Chief Minister, Shahbaz Sharif has said that the people now want electricity instead of democracy and therefore he keeps the democratic system sans electricity on his toes. On the other hand many popular figures critisized his work for punjab. According to them he must use the public taxes to solve the electricity blackout problem, instead of starting new projects like Lahore Metro, laptop scheme and danish schools. Shamie362 (talk) 07:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Done -Nathan Johnson (talk) 15:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

References

Edit request on 18 May 2013

While going through the article,i happened to see that the date of birth of Mr Shahbaz Sharif has been incorrectly stated.It has been mentioned that he was born in 1950, whereas after confirming from other sources i have learned that his exact date of birth is 23rd September 1951.The source link is given below:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_24-9-2005_pg7_14

Please change born 1950 to born 23rd September 1951 because the link given above shows that the article was published on 24th september 2005 (saturday) and the article clearly states that Mr Shahbaz Sharif celebrated his 54th birthday on friday. This indicates that he celebrated his 54th birthday on 23rd september (friday) 2005. This concludes that he was born on 23rd september 1951.Hoping to see a positive response. Lionsavior (talk) 11:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

The Daily Times has reported that Mr Shahbaz Sharif turned 54 in 2005.

--Shirt58 (talk) 12:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

The semi-protection has expired. RudolfRed (talk) 16:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Name Misspelt

The official name is "Shehbaz Sharif" and therefore his official Facebook page has been renamed from Shahbaz to Shehbaz. RedGerbera (talk) 22:52, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: According to the page's protection level and your user rights, you should currently be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. --ElHef (Meep?) 14:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Done: The page has been renamed form 'Shahbaz Sharif' to 'Shehbaz Sharif' as per official facebook (above) and twitter ( https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz). Thank you! --yh (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I would contend that both "Shahbaz Sharif" and "Shehbaz Sharif" are used, but "Shahbaz Sharif" is the name used in his in the official capacity.

The official government site punjab.gov.pk has his name as Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif

The official site for the Office of the Chief Minister of Punjab also has the following :

• The list of staff Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif
• The two news articles of the front page [2] and [3] have "Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif"
• However it does link to the twitter that uses Shehbaz Sharif News and facebook page Mian Shehbaz Sharif

There is also the facebook page Mian Shahbaz Sharif Official

Google "Shahbaz Sharif" and you get 726,000 results, Google "Shehbaz Sharif" and it only has 364,000 results

Google "Shahbaz Sharif" in just news you get 4,750 results, do the same for "Shehbaz Sharif" and only has 339 results

shabaz sharif(chearrri bosamk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.40.7.96 (talk) 10:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

As such it looks like "Shahbaz" is used in the official capacity, where "Shehbaz" is used in the less official things like social media. I have no idea if this is a normal thing in Pakistan of just something he does?

This means that both officially, in context to his job and thus what the article is mostly about, and in comparative usage "Shahbaz Sharif" is the correct choice, but the article should mention both as he is very clearly known as both. KylieTastic (talk) 10:37, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think WP should jump around, but should opt for one version throughout with a notification of the other version. My preference is for the version used in the Pakistan government website, which is "Shahbaz". In that case, the article title should be changed back to "Shahbaz". I could make these changes, but invite discussion. Errantios (talk) 11:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC) PS: I cannot make these changes myself, not currently being an extended confirmed user. Errantios (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

References

Cleanup

Hi @Mar4d and Greenbörg: I have just begun the job of cleaning up this messed up bio and need your comments to further improve it. Just so you know... I have added three new subsections under the Political career (first three ones). I believe the sources are good and these three sub-sections can be further expanded.

I have moved the material that we had under the section "Second term as Chief Minister" to List of initiatives of Punjab Government (2008–13) for the time being and outright removed the promotional press releases alike content that we used to had under the section "Third term as Chief Minister". But I left behind two sub-sections "Model Town Massacre" and "Kasur child sexual abuse scandal", which doesn't look very much relevant here so I need your opinion to how extent these two sub-sections be trimmed down? Also I would appreciate if you guys could suggest which noteworthy initiatives or projects should be moved back from the List of initiatives of Punjab Government (2008–13) and be mentioned under the section "Second term as Chief Minister"? --Saqib (talk) 14:15, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Would it not be better to convert the list into an article and name it Shehbaz Sharif administration (similar to Pervez Khattak administration)? Mar4d (talk) 15:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I have no plans to work on it. I welcome suggestions concerning this bio. --Saqib (talk) 15:55, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: I tried to simplify the things up. I moved all messy data to Chief Ministership of Shehbaz Sharif where we can clean up all that stuff. Greenbörg (talk) 08:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Sabzazar case

@Störm: I don't get logic behind the outright removal of Sabzazar case section. IMO, the information should be retained here for the sake of NPOV. It can be chunk down but removal of entire section does not make sense to me. --Saqib (talk) 10:05, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Saqib I was about to add 'Public section' which may make article little lengthy and as per WP:SUBARTICLE it is perfectly fine to spin-off stuff. It isn't going anywhere, I added instantly to its subpage. Störm (talk) 10:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

WP:SPINOUT says Very large articles should be split into logically separate articles. I don't think this one is a very large article and that we should start removing properly sourced material. --Saqib (talk) 10:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

New image

Given that the lead image is a decade old, I was thinking about these replacement options. I'm leaning towards option C. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

I like Option C Tow (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

I vote for option D. Like C and A, it is a full face shot though the lighting is a bit darker. Jurisdicta (talk) Jurisdicta (talk) 19:46, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

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  Option A (2012; current)
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  Option B (2017)
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  Option C (2017)
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  Option D (2017)

Chronology

Pardon my question. Sharif was released on bail last year, and became prime minister this year? -SusanLesch (talk) 18:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

He would be disqualified from Parliament if convicted: Constitution s 63(1)(l). Otherwise, his eligibility is legally unaffected. Politically, there will no doubt be pressure for the charge to be dropped. Errantios (talk) 23:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Errantios. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2022

00Ayaan00 (talk) 22:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes i am just making sure everything is correct (as i can see it is not) 00Ayaan00 (talk) 22:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 April 2022

Please change "He was elected Prime Minister on 11 April 2022." to "He was elected Prime Minister on 11 April 2022 by winning 174 votes in the parliament." Vishwasthakkar (talk) 02:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Is this necessary detail that adds any context? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Money Laundering Cases:

In December 2019, anti-graft body - National Accountability Bureau (NAB) froze 23 properties that belong to Shehbaz and his son Hamza, accussing the father and the son of money laundering.

In September next year (2020), NAB had arrested Shehbaz on charges of money laundering and income beyond means case.

The case was instituted against him by Imran Khan-led government and Shehbaz denied the charges, terming them as "politics victimisation". However, he had to be behind the bar for several months before the Lahore High Court in April released him on bail in money laundering case.

Money laundering case in the UK:

Shehbaz is currently facing a PKR 14 billion money laundering case in the United Kingdom brought against him by Pakistan's Federal Investigation Agency (FIA). The leader is on bail in the case.

Nawaz Sharif's Corruption Cases:

Five corruption cases have been launched by the government of prime minister Imran Khan previously against the 70-year-old supremo of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz since his ouster from the office by the Supreme Court in July 2017 in the Panama Papers case.

The National Accountability Bureau's (NAB) regional board, under the chairmanship of its Director General Shahzad Saleem, discussed the additional corruption cases against Nawaz, his younger brother Shehbaz Sharif, daughter Maryam Nawaz and 13 others in money laundering and possession of assets beyond known sources of income investigation.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 April 2022

Imported Government Namanzoor 2001:8003:D189:B001:2D06:7802:D2CF:EB61 (talk) 14:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 April 2022

Please change the IPA pronunciation of the name to [miˈɑ̃ː moˈɦəmːəd ʃɛɦˈbɑːz ʃəˈriːf], and remove the 'Punjabi' title, as pronunciation are slightly different in Punjabi (schwa + potential tonal variations). نعم البدل (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done:, fixed the IPA. Not sure about the rest of the request. >>> Extorc.talk 11:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Could you provide the correct IPA for Punjabi to be placed alongside the Urdu one? Please re-activate the request if you do. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk  14:11, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 April 2022

The first citation from CNN (https://web.archive.org/web/20220411123246/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/11/asia/pakistan-prime-minister-shehbaz-sharif-intl-hnk/) credits "CNN" like a last name and "Sophia Saifi and Rhea Mogul" like a first name in the citation template, which is wrong. Mat Kiyan (talk) 04:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC) Mat Kiyan (talk) 04:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. >>> Extorc.talk 11:36, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2022

I need to add some details about Mr. Shehbaz Sharif DawoodBinImran (talk) 08:06, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 09:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Calling him a murderer in the lead

Regardless of the truth of this statement, has he been convicted in court? The article in the citation seems to say that charges will be brought, but Wikipedia, for a variety of reasons, does not call people criminals before their convictions. This article calls him a murderer in the lede. Perhaps we should rethink thatXenologer48 (talk) 17:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 October 2022

Article currently reads: "Mian Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif (Punjabi and Urdu: میاں محمد شہباز شریف, pronounced [miˈãː moˈɦəmːəd ʃɛhˈbaːz ʃəˈriːf]; born 23 September 1951) is a Pakistani politician and murderer[2]"

The last part "and murderer" is neither factual nor specific enough nor neutral for the following reasons and should be deleted, in addition the cited reference should be removed:

1. The article cited in the references is a news article which reported that a Pakistani court registered murder charges against the subject of the Wikipedia article Shehbaz Sharif. Registering charges is not the same as a conviction nor does it imply such. Registration of charges is merely formally bringing charges against a defendant before a trial.

2. The Punjab police formally closed their murder investigations against Shehbaz Sharif in October 2015 without any conviction or trial: https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/pakistan/pakistan-police-closes-murder-case-against-pm-sharif-family-1.1605506

3. A label of "murderer" is not specific enough to denote the exact charge or degree for which someone was convicted.

4. Calling someone a murderer is hardly in line with the neutrality expected of Wikipedia articles. SBR249 (talk) 18:44, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. --Mvqr (talk) 10:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Mvqr: your edits above were reverted today, by an editor only just out of a 48-hour block for edit-warring: [4]. I have reverted their edits, and asked them to get consensus here at the talk page before re-adding these potentially libellous claims and WP:Synthesis. Storchy (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I have watchlisted this article, but might not catch it if it is done again. The Pakistani PM certainly shouldn't be described as a "murderer". There may be merit to some of the details of the 2014 events and investigations but it needs to be done carefully. Mvqr (talk) 10:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Wealth

Given that he owns a steel conglomerate and the milieu in which he operates, it's not credible that he is worth only US$1 million. Please can someone find more credible details of his and Nawaz's finances? Onanoff (talk) 18:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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03354656249 new miana pura sialkot 39.49.130.113 (talk) 06:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2023 (slight change in "Book" place)

Greetings, the "Book" section is situated a bit too down, generally it isn't that far in the page, so I'm wondering if it was possible to just put it above the "See also" section (and thus after "Toshakhana Records").

It seems more logical and natural.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a03f:6504:1700:7079:9555:c63e:5474 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:46, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2023 (adding source for "Book")

Hi, there's a book of his that's referenced in the "Book" section, but I was wondering if a source would be welcomed ?

This is the source :

https://openlibrary.org/works/OL7809021W/%CA%BBAzm_o_himmat_ki%CC%84_da%CC%84sta%CC%84n?edition=key%3A/books/OL6827196M

So I want to replace the current thing :

• ʻAzm o himmat kī dāstān (عزم و همت كى داستان; "A tale of resolve and courage"), Lāhore : Sharīf Publīcations, 2000, 72 p. History and struggle of business endeavours of the Sharif family.

With the following :

• ʻAzm O Himmat Kī Dāstān (عزم و همت كى داستان; "A Tale of Resolve and Courage"), Lāhore : Sharīf Publīcations, 2000, 72 p. History and struggle of business endeavours of the Sharif family.

I also put some capital letters to make it more reader-friendly.

Thanks

References

 Partly done: I added the link to Open Library as a citation, but didn't change capitalization of the title since that's not how its given in the source. Xan747 (talk) 18:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi thanks but could you reconsider your position concerning the latter proposition, as a change in stylization (to facilitate reading on mobile phone and also to make it appear more usual or common) isn't a radical change of the info itself, thanks. 2A02:A03F:64ED:2600:B167:7D27:1B08:1ED1 (talk) 18:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Ok, you win.  Done Xan747 (talk) 22:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi thank you again and really not trying to be annoying but if you could also apply this to the English translation (so replacing ""A tale of resolve and courage" with "A Tale of Resolve and Courage") I'd be grateful, thanks again! 2A02:A03F:64ED:2600:B167:7D27:1B08:1ED1 (talk) 08:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Not a problem. I also capitalized the title in the citation. Xan747 (talk) 13:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

No mention of the model town incident 2014?

There should be mention of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2014_Lahore_clash&oldid=1162824262 DrWineBerry (talk) 13:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

A speech on pakistani current leader in urdu

shabash shareef 39.43.92.23 (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2023

Shahbaz Sharif's business in Saudi Arabia and India are no mentioned in his article, He had some big hotels business in Saudi Arabia 103.140.93.29 (talk) 06:55, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Name inconsistencies

There are tons of inconsistencies of "Sharif", "Shehbaz", and "Shahbaz". According to WP:SURNAME, people should be referred to by the given name if the last name is patronymic. ― Ö S M A N  (talk · contribs) 14:03, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2024

Hello I want make Some Grammar changes and to correct wrong information General Asim Munir coas (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Ambiguous request. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 13:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Court hearings

Para 3 has "On March 15, 2022, The Daily Mail filed its defence. On March 17, 2022, Master Thornett issued the directive to file the defence." If the defence was filed on 15 March, why did Thornett issue a directive to file the defence two days later? Am I misunderstanding something? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 09:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2024

Change £500 to £500 million in daily mail article section Annoying.11 (talk) 11:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done thanks! NotAGenious (talk) 15:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Error

• Text - 24th PM of Pakistan
• Infobox - 23rd PM of Pakistan

Pharaoh496 (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)