Talk:Saskatchewan/Archive 1

Archive 1

sa-SKATCH-when

I have never used and rarely hear the pronunciation "sus-KATCH-uh-wun" in all my 20 years here in the west-central part of the province, and I live near the banks of that river it is so named after. The alternate pronunciation is to me a sign of eastern Saskatchewan ignorance towards the western part of the province, which happens to pay the bulk of the oil wealth we enjoy. I know many people live in Calgary pronounce it "cal-gary" instead of the more accustomed "cal-gree" and it's perfectly fine. Let's get rid of the pronunciation section altogether and move on with the times. --

You need to sign your comments. The issue is not with the additional ə but the wh. And the additional ə is not uncommon elsewhere than where you say. The issue is the wh. In any case if you were to use the IPA it would resolve the issue. Masalai 02:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

However, this does have to be dealt with. Tell it how it is or don't mention anything at all. Obviously "sus-SKATCH-uh-wan" isn't agreeable to everyone. --

How to pronounce?

I'm not from Canada, and I'm not sure how to pronounce Saskatchewan. Maybe someone from Canada could record a short audio clip of how to pronounce it, upload it to Wikipedia, and add it to the article? --137.111.13.34 12:20, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Does this help? sis-KATSH-ooh-WAWN (Is reminded of the song "Cap In Hand" by The Proclaimers which goes "I can says Saskatchewan without starting to stutter") Earl Andrew 19:27, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think it would look more like "sus-CATCH-u-wun". No one from Sask. actually says an emphatic "wawn" on the end. Lived here 56 years. L.C. Nov.16 2004

In fact Saskers can tell "foreigners" by how many syllables they give to Saskatchewan. The locals often say it in two (SKATCH-wun). Anyone who uses four syllables ending with "wawn" instead of "wun" is considered a clueless tourist. Indefatigable 01:52, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think I need to watch more episodes of Corner Gas. hehehe Earl Andrew 03:30, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re: How to pronounce?

In reply to the person who suggested a short audio clip, I just recorded myself pronouncing Saskatchewan into the microphone plugged into my computer (I have the file on my comp). I myself am Saskatchewanian and the clip is pretty much exactly how I (and other Saskatchewanians) would pronounce Saskatchewan in a typical conversation. I said it quite fast, like I usually do, but I think it is quite clear. Infact it can be said faster - when I'm in a hurry I run the two S's together and eliminate the A in between altogether: Ss-katch-uh-wun. I would upload the file onto the article but I wouldn't know how or where to put it (I'm new to Wikipedia). I'd be happy though to send it to someone to add themselves, or if they gave me instructions. I'll be checking back here in a couple of days, please reply! (if you want to listen to the clip first then ask me please)

• I've added a bit more about this. Although the "suh-" pronunciation is common, for people born and bred in Saskatchewan, it's actually more common to say "siss-KATCH-e-wan". As noted above you can usually tell a "foreigner" in several ways. One way is if he or she says "SASS-KATCH-e-wan". I've tried to indicate this in my addition, but it might sound a little POV. If anyone can rewrote the point to be more NPOV, please do. 23skidoo 22:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

• OK, I don't want to start an edit war here, so I'm not going to change the page right now, but the current pronunciation on the main page is just plain wrong. Nobody from Saskatchewan pronounces it like the Canadian Oxford Dictionary version: su-SKA-tchu-wahn. As a previous edit of the page said, a "wahn" at the end indicates someone from out of the province, as does the initial "sass". Personally, I say it with the "suh-", but I'm sure some say it with "siss-" (especially when you say it fast), but no one from Saskatchewan says "sass". I suggest the page say the name is commonly pronounced either "sus-KATCH-uh-wun" or "siss-KATCH-e-wun", although other common pronunciations, either with "sass-" as the initial syllable, or "-wahn" as the final syllable, generally indicate someone from out-of-province. Shanemcd 04:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

If you can find a reference supporting your understanding of the local pronunciation, then you should add this to the article. Otherwise, it sounds like anecdotal evidence or original research, so it wouldn't belong in an encyclopedia article. The general Canadian pronunciation, as attested by the Canadian Oxford, does. —Michael Z. 2006-01-

18 06:12 Z

Sure, if everyone from outside SK pronounces it one way, that would ipso facto make it the general Canadian pronunciation. But if no one from SK actually says it that way, that seems an important proviso. Otherwise it'd be like saying that Mexicans pronounce "Mexico" wrong because they don't pronounce the 'x' in the same way that the rest of the world generally does. --89.204.153.247 (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

• It's how a Saskachewaaniian would prounounce NOT how an Easternaer would it's Sask a chiwin and I have an Ontarion Atlas and it mixed up Alberta and Saskachewan How can that happen.

• I'm from Saskatchewan, and I pronounce it sus-SKA-chuun (the last sylibal as in chew-one). The last two (or appairently two) sylibals get jumbled up together. No one actually pronounces the first one sask, always sus/suss, and never with an short "a" sound, always an short "u" sound. Hope that helps some. I can't read the IPA anyways. -Royalguard11(Talk)(Desk) 01:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

As with many cree words the spelling is English so it is prononced as spelled BKnoss 03:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

--89.204.153.247 (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

blah blah blah

On the disambig page for blah, it says that a person from Saskatchewan is a blah is this true? Could a blah (or any one else knowledgable in such things) confirm or deny this, and either add it to this page, or take it off the disambig page. thanks. The bellman 05:05, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)

I've never heard this, but I'm from Manitoba. I'm suspicious. Diderot 10:10, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I too have never ever heard this, it sounds like someone making something up. --Computer_Saskboy 19:01, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

It should. .... Wikipedia has an article on blah?! Disinclination 23:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Population

The population for Saskatoon and Regina is right. Ant additional information for any population of any Canadian City (town, village, hamlet, township, etc) can be found at [ http://www12.statcan.ca/english/Profil01/PlaceSearchForm1.cfm Stats Canada]

I'm not confident in the name of the residents as being Saskatchewanians. The government of Saskatchewan's own web site simply describes them as Saskatchewan People. I see no reason to believe that Saskatchewanian is any more accurate than Saskabusher. --Llewdor 00:05, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

There's no ultimate authority on language usage, so it's not possible to proclaim that any one term is "accurate". However, one thing we can do is look at what people actually use. If Google is any indicator of language use (and it probably is, at least insofar as it is used on the Internet), then it's clear that "Saskabusher", with 29 hits, is not the preferred term. "Saskatchewanian" is about a thousand times more common. —Psychonaut 02:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

YAY! According to this [1] Globe and Mail article on 19-Dec-2007, Saskatchewan is now over a million (again)! Thomas Dzubin (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

History

I'm new to Wiki, and added some information to the history section regarding the NWMP, and the outcome of the Riel trial. Let me know if I made any mistakes or if you need sources [which I don't know where I'd cite them, and the knowledge is pretty much from my head after being here for 25 years, and visiting the history NWMP sites]. --Computer_Saskboy 19:00, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

The history section need significant work. I noticed someone add a paragraph about the KKK, and I thought to myself "Okay, presuming that's accurate, it's still far too minor a fact to include in the main Saskatchewan article - I should delete it or move it to the article on Saskatchewan History." However, upon reading the rest of the History section, I realized that loads of the stuff in there falls into that category. Much of it is simply a list of facts, with many important facts left out, and no continuity from beginning to current times. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Saskatchewan history to rectify this. I really hope someone might write a nice, 3-5 paragraph bit on Saskatchewan's history, so that I don't end up attempting it (because that could be ugly!) AshleyMorton 15:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The KKK were indeed active in Saskatchewan, and even helped one premier James Thomas Milton Anderson get elected! The article Saskatchewan History is actually about a magazine. I hope someone will try to write/organize it, and maybe I'll pitch in too. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 22:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Right. Okay, then, perhaps it's more major than I thought, but I don't think that diminishes the point that even it is presented as just a rote fact, without being joined into some narrative of Saskatchewan history. Perhaps there's a need for a "History of Saskatchewan" article, but I would suggest that the first step is a couple of paragraphs to clean this section up on this page. AshleyMorton 22:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

There should also be more writen about the 1960's and reforms made by the Thatcher Libeals and by the 1980's with the Devine Conservatives.BKnoss 03:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The 1905-2005 Centennial saw the publication of several SK timelines...

• Saskatchewan history timeline Saskatchewan Public School Division
• Historical Timeline
• CBC Saskatchewan Centennial - Saskatchewan's StorySriMesh | talk 04:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sask Party

Hear is some info [2] [3] Michaelm 04:25, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

the Communist Party of the USSR called itself Democratic. this is no proof. revising Pellaken 04:59, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Lets not forgett that the NDP's predesesor the CCF was founded by Comunist Party of Canada Memebers and that the NDP still has ideologies dating back to Karl Marx. BKnoss 01:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The NDP was predeceased by the CCF. However tne Communist Party of Canada spawned the LPP or Labour Progressive Party, not the CCF. 71.17.177.246 (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

email hidden -Royalguard11(T·R!) 17:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Police and corrections agencies

Do these lists really belong here? Ground Zero | t 22:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Language

Does Saskatchewan have language lesgislation? If not, the term "official language" is misleading. The official languages of Canada are English and French. Fishhead64 16:01, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

And the official language of Saskatchewan is English, though The Language Act (http://www.qp.gov.sk.ca/documents/English/Statutes/Statutes/L6-1.pdf) allows for legislation to be created in English only or English and French.

There is also a governmental body (http://www.gr.gov.sk.ca/oflc/index-e.htm) that "serves as a liason between the provincial government and the province's French-speaking population".

Jberkan 22:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Saskawaainaiins

We are Saskachewanians it says so on Word even Not Saskers. Also it's a bunny hug NOT a hoodie this is on commercials even!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.174.135.175 (talk • contribs)

Who ever got the idea of Saskers? Although I usually pronounce it Saskatchewanians. And it's definetly a bunnyhug (I've got a userbox for that in my userspace). Although when I was in Ottawa, they didn't know what a bunnyhug, hoodie, hooded swetshirt, or a sweater with hood was. BUNYHUG. -Royalguard11^{TalkMy Desk} 18:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Man-made borders?

While the south-west side of Alberta has a border which runs along a mountain range, the actual placement of the border was still man-made (ie. arbitrarily running where it is). So I don't think Sask. is the only province with "all man-made borders" as the page claims.

Well, all borders are defined by men... but I believe they mean that Saskatchewan's borders are not formed by any geographic features. They were simply drew arbitrarily by people. --Sven Erixon 20:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Not that arbitrarily, rather matematicaly: they are set along Meridian 110°00'00" (west) Latitude 60°00'00" (north) and 49°00'00" (south). The eastern border runs between 101° and 102°. --Qyd 23:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Land of Living Skies?

"The provincial licence plates bear the slogan "Land of Living Skies", indicating clouds of grasshoppers, and depict three stalks of wheat" While this is truly hilarious I'm fairly sure that it is in fact NOT correct. I've always preferred the term "Gapper" when refering to someone from s'SKA-chuh-wun. Or even a stubble-jumper from the gap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdrlen (talk • contribs)

This is certainly worthy of Uncyclopedia, but it has no place here, where User:220.236.152.60's edits would qualify as vandalism. Qyd 15:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do you think it vandalism? I think not. Primary schoolteachers in the 1950s always told us that the provincial crest was reversed in heraldic colours to indicate prairie fire. And now the province has equally welcomed the obvious truth that the skies of Saskatchewan are alive with grasshoppers. What on earth other rational explanation could there be for this sobriquet? I say leave it, and stop characterising it as vandalism, which it clearly isn't.Masalai 11:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The red color is standard for a lion depicted on a gold field, all heraldry, nothing to do with fire. Regarding grashopper and plagues, can you please provide some references? Here are some examples of the edits that were reverted (not only by me) (all edits by two anonymous users, one with other vandal contributions):

• Anon Edit "Saskatchewan's crest bears the imperial lion but with the colours reversed so that the lion is red, emblematic of prairie fire. The provincial licence plates bear the slogan "Land of Living Skies", indicating clouds of grasshoppers, and depict three stalks of wheat"
• Anon Edit "Saskatchewan's licence plates bear the slogan "Land of Living Skies" in reference to the grasshopper plagues of dry years, and complementing the heraldically unusual red colour of the lion on the provincial crest, indicating prairie fire. In consequence, throughout North America, wherever Saskatchewan automobile licence plates are seen, Saskatchewan is now known as "Grasshopperville."
• Anon Edit: "Saskatchewan's licence plates bear the slogan "Land of Living Skies" in reference to the grasshopper plagues of dry years, and complementing the heraldically unusual red colour of the lion on the provincial crest, indicating prairie fire.

Please provide references for entries that are disputed.Qyd 13:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Here is a link from the gouvernment of saskachewan regarding the shield [4], it only says "he shield of arms displays a red lion (a traditional royal symbol)". The article has been changed again: please don't do that untill the dispute is solved. Qyd 13:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

May I suggest that the dispute be referred to the Rev'd Michael Jackson in Regina, who is the province's master of protocol. (See http://www.gr.gov.sk.ca/protocol/Practice/crown_in_canada.htm) Masalai 19:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Here in sask, we all know that the weather changes by the minute. This could be one reason for the "Land of Living Skies" reference. Here are some others I have found that might be of interest.

• "Did you know? Saskatchewan is known as 'The Land of the Living Skies' for our breathtaking sunsets and dancing northern lights."
• "Saskatchewan proudly calls itself the 'Land Of Living Skies'. While the province is well known for its beautiful, ever changing sky, the province’s landscape is also diverse and intriguing."
• "Saskatchewan adopted the license plate motto 'Land of Living Skies' for a reason - sometimes, the heavens seem like a living organism"
• "This is why we call Saskatchewan 'Land of Living Skies.'"
• "One of the many reasons that our skies are described as 'living' is a phenomenon known as the aurora borealis or northern lights."

Just do a search of the Government of Saskatchewan's website, and you will soon find out that the the slogan "Land of Living Skies" most often refers to our seemingly HUGE sky providing brilliant displays with constantly changing features. --Norskman 16:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Just found this little tidbit on that same government website that Qyd pointed out.

"COLOURS The colours in the coat of arms derive from nature and represent aspects typical of the province: ochre or gold for wheat; green for forests and grass; red for the western red lily or prairie fires; brown for the soil." (bold added)

This is a description about the COAT OF ARMS as a whole. Since the primary colors it mentions appear prominently on the shield, I would imagine the red talked about in this description also includes the red on the lion. --Norskman 14:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Could we move the discussion about the coat of arms at the specific page Coat of arms of Saskatchewan? PS: The colours quote is from Saskatchewan Coat of Arms. --Qyd 15:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Missing Geography section

The article doesn't have a Geography section (which is standard on all province pages). It could use one, even if "Saskatchewan is flat". I would start working on it, but I don't even know where to start, maybe someone more familiar with the subject could add the section. --Qyd 17:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I was busy making some minor edits to the Milk River, Battle Creek, and Missouri articles; I then went to the Saskatchewan article to see if there was a watershed/drainage mention in the Geography section... I was surprised to see that there was none. All the other provinces seem to have Geography sections so Saskatchewan should also. Dzubint 20:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I have just added a Geography section with some basic information, but it desperately needs some expansion. -- Dzubint 20:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Settlement History

During the preparation of Alexander Duncan McRae I was surprised to find out this fellow made his fortune selling railway land during the settlement of Saskatchewan. During my years in Saskatchewan I had understood the homestead route was how the prairies were settled. This misses a substantial commercial involvement in the process I was not aware of. I thought that if having lived in Saskatchewan for 30 years I had not come across this, there may be others that might find this interesting too. KenWalker | Talk 20:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

External Link Request

I was wondering if I could put a link for people traveling to Saskatchewan? It has detail maps and information on all the regions in Saskatchewan. It also has nice photos of Saskatchewan.

• Travel Saskatchewan – Travel and Tourism information.

or just

• Travel Saskatchewan

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Comeexplorecanada (talk • contribs) 08:47, 27 November 2006

This links would most probably qualify as WP:SPAM, nd should not be added to the article. --66.82.9.53 18:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Miscellany section

This section is a collection of worthless trivia, all unreferences, mostly very loosely related to the province. How about removing the section altogether? --Qyd 18:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree that removing most of them would be a good idea. The "Land of Living Skies" one and also the "Saskatchewan's heraldic shield contains a red lion on a yellow field, reversing the conventional heraldic colours, indicating the prairie fires of this region during the pre-settlement North-West Territories." ones seem to fit in though. Everything else is pretty trivial. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 18:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, (in addition to my agreeing that the Misc section should go away), the term "bunny hug" referring to a hooded sweatshirt/hoodie is NOT unique to Saskatchewan, I've heard it in casual conversation (and thus, presumably in common use) in both Vancouver & Calgary. Dzubint 22:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC) off topic but... What is the name of the book that takes places in this area of Canada about owls? Teedium 23:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

off topic but... What is the name of the book that takes places in this area of Canada about owls? Teedium 23:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

It's Owls in the Family by Farley Mowat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.11.95.204 (talk) 15:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

You may be thinking of Who Has Seen the Wind by W. O. Mitchell -- I think there is an owl in it. Indefatigable 20:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

If you're thinking further west it might be I Heard the Owl Call My Name. -Royalguard11(T) 17:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Heads Up

As to the recent edits about the grasshoppers, its false as far as I'm concerned. I've live in Saskatchewan all my life, and have never heard that before. Furthermore, the IP traces back to Australia. I have also determined User:58.6.119.10 to be an Open Proxy (through a port scan, TCP's 25, 3389, and 5190 open). I haven't been able to determine User:58.109.40.119 yet. Just revert on sight for any edit with the license plate being about grasshoppers. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 05:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, (probably) like you, I have "Saskatchewan" on my watched-pages list. I'll keep a look out for this. I think the grasshopper thing is a bit of a joke-meme (I seem to recall it being mentioned on one of those TV comedy club shows), so it may be multiple people thinking that they are being "funny" (and yes, maybe the FIRST edit was funny, but it gets old after edit #3 or #4) Thomas Dzubin _Talk 12:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

license plate logo and clouds of grasshoppers

Sigh...Perhaps the license plate logo should be removed from the Misc section because it is a vandal magnet? It's been vandalised 3 times in the last week and lots more in the last few months. (I know, I know...then that would mean "the vandals have won" so maybe that ISN'T a good idea) Thomas Dzubin _Talk 13:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

If this gets any worse I'll semiprotect the article myself. BTW, User:210.11.226.204 is an open proxy too. Open on 80, 254, 255. Couldn't determine anything about User:211.31.208.166. User:58.109.40.119 was also an open proxy (open:1025, 3531). I'll ask them at WP:OP to check the one I couldn't determine anything from. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 21:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

yeah, I guess it's just one person doing it for kicks. (probably reading this also). Maybe using TOR or something equally simple. They came in from Special:Contributions/203.57.48.232 and Special:Contributions/59.167.210.135 in the last day. sigh...oh well, at least reverts are simple. Thomas Dzubin _Talk 13:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

203.57.48.232 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) does not appear to be an open proxy. The only open port in 23 (for Telnet), otherwise, everything's shut. I wasn't able to get anything for 59.167.210.135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Along with the other idiot vandalism, it's enough that I've decided semi-protected the page. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 00:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I got some results for 59.167.210.135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Port number 5190 is open, but is used for AIM and ICQ. We might have to get some more knowledgable people to look through these IP's. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 00:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

All these IPs have Australia in common... too bad the Wiki software can't block edits to a page based on region and/or only have a particular section semi-protected (although I know I've reverted enough vandalism from signed-in accounts anyway so it probably doesn't matter that they're from "anonymous" IPs). Oh well...once Summer gets to the Northern Hemisphere and Winter in Australia, maybe the vandal will be back home in Sask and can be traced more effectively. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dzubint (talk • contribs) 02:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

Uranium Prices

"Saskatchewan is also the world's most important supplier of uranium, and supplies much of the western world's supplies. The uranium industry is closely regulated by the provincial government which allows the government of Saskatchewan great latitude in setting world uranium prices."

I believe this statement in the article is problematic. Nuclear industries are regulated by the Federal Government, and the Province of Saskatchewan is not involved in regulating, or approving the construction of uranium mines or processing facilities. The only mechamism available to Saskatchewan to regulate uranium is through the setting and collection of royalties.

The actual 'price' of uranium is set by the world market, which, unlike the market for many other metals and commodities, is not an open and transparent market, but one that is based on long term contracts. However, there are a couple firms that track uranium prices and provide market research [5] that essentially facilitate a market through the confidential (and blind) provision of data from other vendors on contracts recently signed.

Please revise accordingly.

70.73.4.197 13:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really sure when that got put there. Province doesn't own any part of the Uranuim companies, so they don't have much say in what happens. I know that we're a big supplier of uranium though (cite). I would ask why you're not going to do it yourself, but I forgot that the article was protected. Getting an account would be a good step so you can edit semi-protected pages. I'll unprotect it for now so anyone can change it (and hopefully that idiot with the license plate "joke" has gone away). -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 22:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, don't know what to put there exactly without wiping everything but "Saskatchewan is the world's most prolific supplier of uranium". But if I left it just as one sentence, it would seem kind of out of place in an article that is comprised of paragraphs. Any ideas of what else could be added to the statement to fully comprise a paragraph?

70.73.4.197 10:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC) ^{Superscript text}

Perhaps something about the history of Uranium mining starting in the province...Uranium Mineral Resources of Saskatchewan or about the yield used for electrical energy production...Uranium - Government of Saskatchewan SriMesh | talk 02:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Wow, the bot works quick. I wasn't doing it to be a jack-ass alone, I was seeing how long it took to revert it. You might want to check the programming, as it didn't revert is the second time. Good work as always, regards, 207.195.51.199 18:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

yo

what is this pplace

... It's a province. I think the page got that across rather nicely.--Labine50 07:27, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

If that person didn't get that then that is sad. Reading would be good to do once in a while. After all, Wikipedia does involve a lot of reading. Mr. C.C. 04:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

History section

I think this needs some expansion, especially in the 20th century. I'm sure more has happened since WW2 than an agricultural show. Could someone add a C20th narrative describing major developments in industry (incl mining) and infrastructure, changes in agricultural practice, effect of the Great Depression, etc? Walkerma 02:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We have that neat particle accelerator at the U of S, that's all I can think of.--Labine50 04:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The 1905-2005 Centennial saw the publication of several SK timelines...

• Saskatchewan history timeline Saskatchewan Public School Division
• Historical Timeline
• CBC Saskatchewan Centennial - Saskatchewan's StorySriMesh | talk 04:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

BRENT BUTT!?

Would Brent Butt be considered famous? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.79.190 (talk) 01:03, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Possibly.--Labine50 04:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Order of Confederation

On the right side, it says that Sask. entered confederation on September 1, 1905 as the 9th province.

The September 1, 1905 is correct, however, Saskatchewas was the 8th province. On September 1, 1905, the Governor General travelled through Saskatchewan and Alberta and signed the appropriate proclamations creating them as provinces. As he travelled from east to west, Saskatchewan was technically created earlier than Alberta, and enjoys precedence of place in formal occasions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.178.24.2 (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Medicare

This is actually incorrect:

In 1944 Tommy Douglas became premier of the first avowedly socialist regional government in North America. Most of his MLAs (Members of the Legislative Assembly) represented rural and small-town ridings. Under his Cooperative Commonwealth Federation government, Saskatchewan became the first province to have Medicare, billed at the time as government-funded mandatory universal medical insurance.

(1) The Medical Care Insurance Act, 1961 (Sask.) did not introduce Medicare federally as the link indicates, but a provincial program which was only later adopted federally under the Pearson government in Ottawa. And (2) the legislation to enact Medicare provincially was indeed introduced by the CCF under T.C. Douglas but the Act did not come into force until 1962 when Woodrow Lloyd had taken over as premier. Masalai (talk) 00:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Correctional facilities

do they all need to be listed? don't see them appearing in many other provincial articles or US state articles? secondly, is it something someone would look up on WP article for a province? Michellecrisp (talk) 00:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Audio pronunciation?

There's a request for someone to make an audio pronunciation of Saskatchewan for those not able to pronounce it. The question we need to decide is which one?

• Sa-ska-chew-won (the long pronunciation)
• S-skach-won (the usual short pronunciation by locals)

What do people think? I guess people from outside might want the long one. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 23:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree...that the long one would be better here on wikipedia. SriMesh | talk 16:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Healthcare

The healthcare section is awful. It sounds like it is responding to something earlier planted there by someone from the U.S. where talk of socialized medicine is common. Do Candians characterize their health care system as "socialized"? If not, then references to socialized medicine ahould be removed. The section itself needs some real information about health care services in the province. Any local volunteers?--Hauskalainen (talk) 15:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Tallest ....

I would think that the tallest building/structure would be a good addition to the page, but personally I have No clue what it is. I would think that it would be one of the many industrial strutures (refinery/pulp mill/power plant/elc) rather than one of the "high-rises" in Regina and Saskatoon. Anyone Know??

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.3.20.253 (talk) 02:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

ATTENTION: pronunciation from a saskatchewanian. (feb 17/06) first of all..i don't understand why this is even a question. Its not that hard of a word to begin with...if you know your phonics then you should know how to pronounce words. ANYHOW..for all of us crazy flatlanders that call saskatchewan our home province it sounds like this: (really slow like sesame street) suss-cat-chew-in but of course we say this REALLY FAST and it ends up sounding like saskatchewan.

The correct pronounciation would be:

suh-SCAT-chew-an

Also, the population disparity between Saskatoon and Regina is larger than the statistics here indicate (maybe you did change them?), but to give credit where it's due, the number has been decreasing somewhat, particularly since Pat Fiacco became mayor of Regina.

-Dean (Nov 17/04) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.132.222 (talk) 21:16, 17 November 2004 (UTC)

Untitled

The population disparity of Regina and Saskatoon is not nearly so great... it appears the author is using the estimated CMA population for Saskatoon, while using older city proper info for Regina... I'm not confident enough, though, to make this alteration. Brithgob 00:37, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation and IPA

"It is common for residents to use an alternate pronunciation that substitutes "siss-" for "sus-" in the initial syllable of the name. A third common pronunciation, with "sass-" as the initial syllable, generally indicates someone from out-of-province."

What sounds are supposed to be represented? —Michael Z. 2006-01-18 00:14 Z

• "siss-": [sɪs], or [sis]?
• "sus-": [səs], [sʌs], [sas], or [sus]?
• "sass-": [sæs], [sʌs], or [sas]?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzajac (talk • contribs) 00:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

A bible belt?

Did you know this area is labelled as being a Bible Belt? Stettlerj 21:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey could someone write an article about Manitou Beach it's the saltiest place of Earth and has the largest horse hair Dance place in the country.

Category:Provinces and territories of Canada vs. Category:Saskatchewan

Category:Saskatchewan is itself a category within Category:Provinces and territories of Canada. — Robert Greer (talk) 20:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

All ten provinces and three territories were filed the same way. For what it's worth, while I personally agree with removing it, they need to all be treated the same way, either all double-filed or all removed from Category:Provinces and territories of Canada — but there's a bit of a constant tug of war between those who want to respect duplicate categorization rules and those who feel that the importance of the topic necessitates avoiding the second click that becomes necessary if they aren't double-filed. Bearcat (talk) 21:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I've reverted the removals (and Robert said he's okay with that) per WP:CAT, specifically "an article should not be excluded from any list category on the grounds that its eponymous category is made a 'subcategory' of that category". —JAO • T • C 14:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Um, the category in question isn't a list category. Bearcat (talk) 14:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's also a topic category but that doesn't make it less of a list category. See Wikipedia:Categorization#The category system. —JAO • T • C 16:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

A "list category" is a category for articles that are lists. That is, Category:Lists of Canadian people is a list category, while Category:Canadian people isn't. Bearcat (talk) 20:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, late answer here, but the link I provided clearly defines "list categories" as "these contain articles whose subjects are members of a particular set; for example, Category:Musicians contains articles on musicians". I agree that this definition is confusing, and it has caused confusion before, but that is what WP:CAT means when it says "list categories". —JAO • T • C 09:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I just saw that this principle is now under discussion at Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Eponymous cats, so if you want it changed, chiming in there might be a good idea. —JAO • T • C 16:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

The total population of Saskatchewan appears to be about 150%

The ethnicities don't add up unless there are a lot of German-Dutch Scots or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.166.174 (talk) 23:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicities aren't mutually exclusive. --89.204.153.247 (talk) 19:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Abandoned Places. Communities that are not there any more

We need a list of abandoned places in Saskatchawan. Such places as "Port of Entry, SK" in the middle of the Big Muddy Valley right on the Border. Shows up on Google Earth due south of Big Muddy. Google earth has reference to Big Muddy, SK but no reference to Port of Entry SK. This would have been an important law and order community as it is right on the Owtlaw Trail There are lots of other places that are not there any more. Glasnevin, Sk west of Ogema, Sk Mount Joy and Dahinda just north of Glassnevin, Hardy, west of Ceylon and Egypt valley just north of hardy. And that's just in my neighbourhood. How many places are there and are there old cemetaries in these places that would be a valuable asset to people doing geneology. and perhaps archeology.Some places like Amulet are maintained by neighbouring communities because they have a large cemetary that is still active but a lot of others do not. Let's not lose our history. 216.197.201.235 (talk) 03:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

List of ghost towns in Saskatchewan sounds like it may be what you're looking for. AlexiusHoratius 03:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

I think this article needs a lot more pictures especially ones of Saskatchewan today. There are hardly any. --173.51.68.78 (talk) 03:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Demonym

Does the fact that the Oxford Guide to Canadian English Usage made a mistake justify listing "Saskatchewaner"? As the notes point out, the provincial government says "Saskatchewanian". So does everyone else there. Ampwright (talk) 16:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Law and Order

This section needs a lead sentence or two to outline how policing is organized in SK. If and when somebody does this, can you please look at Saskatchewan Provincial Police and incorporate a blurb about what organization replaced it, and possibly change the SPP article to redirect to Saskatchewan#Law and Order ? PKT(alk) 18:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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Population decline in Saskatchewan

I am looking to create a comprehensive article on a painful subject. If anyone can help, please see my talk page or email: tigerjojo98@yahoo.com Tigerjojo98 (talk) 01:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Time Zone

This edit was reversed: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saskatchewan&diff=483898392&oldid=483560128 Not sure the reversal is warranted given this: Time in Saskatchewan Creighton and Lloydminster both deviate from the province albeit the former without sanction. Saffron Blaze (talk) 09:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Climate change in Saskatchewan

The section on climate change is well-referenced and informative. However, it is beyond the scope of a general article on Saskatchewan. I propose creating it as a standalone article with a short summary and link (see main article Climate change in Saskatchewan) in this article. Comments? Sunray (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

That makes very good sense. Someone has done quite a bit of work there. It deserves it own article. Saffron Blaze (talk) 19:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Support, absolutely. The additions are far too much for this article. Franamax (talk) 20:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

 Done Sunray (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Official Language

Sask is not officially bilingual French/English. Although it is not effectively uni-lingual English either. http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/bilingualism.html

Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks good. Suggest you use it as a reference and clarify the status in the article. – S. Rich (talk) 22:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Four demonyms?

Do we really need to list four demonyms? I feel like the one used by the government is official enough to be the one-and-only listed here. We don't list "Iwegian" under Iowa, for example, even though it's a word that pops up from time to time. Krychek (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Support: If it was cut down to two. My choices would be Saskatchewanian and Saskatchewanite however Saskatchewanian is the only official demonym. -- Kayoty (talk) 17:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Province of Saskatchewan Locator Map used in infoboxes

I started a conversation on the help desk regarding the map of Saskatchewan under the title Error in maps and therefore in the GPS coordinates. The map titled File:Canada_Saskatchewan_location_map.svg does not look my province of Saskatchewan. There should be curvilinear lines north and south. The eastern and western borders albeit are parallel lines, however they are in no way parallel to each other. I see the map NordNordWest used as a template File:Canada_Saskatchewan_relief_location_map.jpg, but it is not a good one at all. The boundaries for Saskatchewan have never changed, I think the cartograher who made File:Canada_Saskatchewan_relief_location_map.jpg took a short cut and made it rectangular with square corners in error. This one MapSK.JPG shows the not parallel east west boundaries and the curved north south borders the best, but it should be oriented more north and south and not off on a diagonal. This also shows the borders well. Saskatchewan Municipalities.png, or this one SK-Canada-province.png. I have contacted user_talk:NordNordWest, the creator of the SVG locater map who seems to have good map making skills BTW. I know they have to be rather particular to work with the GPS robot. Just thought I would start a conversation here, and on the Saskatchewan Wiki Project in this regards for more input. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 14:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Official languages

I've noticed that a disagreement has popped up about including French as an official language for Saskatchewan. Here's the definition of "official language" in the wiki article on Official language: "An official language is a language that is given a special legal status in a particular country, state, or other jurisdiction. Typically a country's official language refers to the language used within government (e.g., courts, parliament, administration).[1]" The citation is to the Concise Oxford Companion to the English Language. Note that this definition doesn't require that the jurisdiction in question use the term "official language"; rather, it's a functional question: does it give a special legal status to the language. By that definition, French is an official language in Saskatchewan, because there is a statutory right to use both French and English in the Legislature and in the courts, and over fifty statutes have been enacted in bilingual format, with both the English and the French versions having equal status. See The Language Act / Loi linguistique, sections 4, 10, 11 and 12. There's also a recent article in the Saskatchewan Law Review on this issue: "Language Rights in Saskatchewan." It may be available through Hein Online? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 10:31, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

First, Wikipedia is not a source. Second, this source cited in the article is highly reliable. In fact, the government of Canada points to that website here for its explanation of the legal context of Canada's official languages. While the source states that Saskatchewan has a bilingual legal system, it clearly states: "Alberta, Manitoba, New Brunswick, and Saskatchewan—have adopted acts regarding the status of English. In this case, English is the official language de jure, which means it is recognized by law." As well, this Canadian government website states "the Official Languages Act does not apply to provincial or municipal governments". Yes, all federal services are bilingual, and some provincial services like the legal system are as well, but shoehorning all the exceptions into the infobox would be sloppy, especially when the article is about Saskatchewan, which is officially not bilingual, and when Template:Infobox province or territory of Canada only asks for "OfficialLang". The exceptions would be best mentioned within the body of the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:10, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia is not a source, but the article on Official Language is citing a very well-respected source, an Oxford Companion. That seems to be a good working definition for an "official language," found in a scholarly text. I found the UOttawa web-pages interesting, but they are difficult to reconcile with the Language Act / Loi linguistique, which gives equal status to English and French in the Legislature and the courts, which is one of the key components of official languages. The UOttawa site does not provide any citation for its statement in support of English as the sole official language of Saskatchewan, and in fact seems to contradict itself when it states: "the law makes the use of English and French official in the Legislative Assembly". Finally, it's irrelevant that the federal Official Languages Act does not apply to the provinces; as a matter of constitutional law, it cannot apply. It's provincial law which is relevant, and the Language Act / Loi linguistique confers equal status on English and French in the Legislature and the courts. If that's not included in the heading "official languages" in the infobox, what do you think that heading refers to? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

This article isn't about Saskatchewan's legislature or courts. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:26, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

But that's where the term official languages comes from: it's a language given official status by the government. Status in the courts and the Legislature is one of the hallmarks of an official language. For example, the federal Official Languages Act regulates language rights in both Parliament and the federal courts. If you don't think usage in the courts and the Legislature is an example of official language for this heading in the infobox, what do you think is included in that infobox heading? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:05, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

And in any event, while this article is not solely about the Government of Saskatchewan, it certainly includes discussion of the government. See the infobox, which has entries for "Government", "Legislature" and "Federal Representation", and also the text of the article, which has a section on Government and Politics. I don't see how there can be an objection to discussing official languages because they relate to the government, when there already is discussion of government in the article. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

By your logic, Magnolia, any material about the legislature or courts should be removed. – S. Rich (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@Srich32977: Please let me clarify what this discussion is about. An editor added to the infobox that the official languages of this province are English and French. In fact, English is the only "official" language in Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan. Reliable sources have been provided to support this, including a direct quote which states "English is the official language" of this province (though the provinces' courts and legislature are officially bilingual). This discussion has nothing to do with the other infobox parameters, or with the content of the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:05, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

As well, Canada's Official Languages Act acknowledges that English and French have not been declared the official languages of all provinces (see PART II, Federal-provincial agreements, sec. 2). Magnolia677 (talk) 19:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Interestingly the article has no mention of the court system. Moreover, I do not find any other article which describes the provincial courts. So I've provided a partial remedy by adding a hatnote. Once an enterprizing editor expands the article to give readers a fuller description of the court system it would be proper to include French as an official language in the infobox. – S. Rich (talk) 19:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Here are the study questions for Canada's citizenship test. Please see the question "Which province is the only officially bilingual province?" Magnolia677 (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

So a quiz prepared by a municipality in another province is a better source than The Language Act /Loi linguistique, passed by the Legislature of Saskatchewan? And, as mentioned earlier, the UOttawa webpage does not provide any citations for that statement, which certainly undercuts its value as a reference.. Finally, as for the courts not being part of government, that's simply not the case: courts, like the legislature and executive, are part of government.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 20:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Here is a definite link/source which shows French is an official language. The Language Act. – S. Rich (talk) 20:44, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that is the Language Act / Loi linguistique which I cited in my very first comment in this thread.

That statute only guarantees bilingual courts and legislature. English is the only official language of this province. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

And that is all that the Constitution Act, 1867 guaranteed at the federal level from Confederation onwards. But there has never been a suggestion that the federal government is not officially bilingual. See s. 133 of the Constitution Act, 1867. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Magnolia, one thing I am finding frustrating in this discussion is that I have asked you to explain what you think "official language" means and you have never responded. In the Canadian context, guarantees of language use in the courts and the legislature have been a hallmark of official language since Confederation, and is consistent with the definition of official language taken from the Oxford Companion. The fact that the Language Act / Loi linguistique parallels s. 133 of the Constitution Act, 1867, is a significant factor in the analysis in Canada, especially in light of the functional definition of "official language" taken from the Oxford Companion. So please, instead of just repeating that English is the only official language, please explain what you think "official language" means, and why your definition applies to Canada. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

By the way, i've found this discussion interesting, so I've put tags about it on the talk pages for the Canada Law Project and the Official Bilingualism in Canada pages. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:57, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

What I think is of little concern to Wikipedia. I have added a reliable source which states "English is the official language" of this province. This discussion appears to be a WP:DEADHORSE. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:00, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Dead horse indeed. You seem to insist that French is not an official language. But you cannot say "English is the only official language." Moreover, we have RS that says English and French may be used in various official government functions (specifically, the legislative and judicial) in provincial government. – S. Rich (talk) 04:03, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

John Edwards (July 9, 1998). Language in Canada. Cambridge University Press. pp. 427–. ISBN 978-0-521-56328-4.--Moxy (talk) 16:32, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Climate Section

The Climate section needs some work. It does not provide any factual or statistical information on the climate of Saskatchewan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:6060:667:C19A:22B9:435A:C905 (talk) 12:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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Law enforcement

Is this section really needed? I don't think this exists for other provinces. Unless there are objections I will delete. Rwood128 (talk) 02:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Not suitable for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. So there are no objections? Rwood128 (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)