Talk:SS Ira H. Owen

Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by Victuallers (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Ira H. Owen before 1899

• ... that the freighter Ira H. Owen (pictured) was the only victim of the Mataafa Storm to be lost with all hands? - George Spencer, Owen, Ira H.
  • ALT1:... that Ira H. Owen (pictured) was one of the first steel-hulled lake freighters? Frederick Stonehouse: Went Missing, II - Page 51

• Reviewed: Amia? hesperia

5x expanded by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 00:39, 10 April 2021 (UTC).

• @GreatLakesShips: Nice article, but right now you're not quite at a 5x expansion; it started at 2178 characters with this version, and is now 8453 characters. The article itself is within policy, the QPQ is done, and Earwig finds no copyvios, it just needs further expansion to be long enough. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 02:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Sorry for the relatively late reply. Unfortunately, I am unable to expand the article, as all the known information about the article is included. I have listed it as a GA nominee, and will hopefully have it listed. GreatLakesShips (talk) 21:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

@GreatLakesShips: That's too bad, since you've done good work on this article. If it is promoted to GA status, you can make a new nomination. Good luck! John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 01:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "she entered service later in 1887." you already said this, so delete, and then merge what's left of the sentence with the previous one.
• "the National Steamship Company of Chicago, on December 30, 1899. While owned by the National Steamship Company, Ira H. Owen frequently " -> "the National Steamship Company of Chicago, on December 30, 1899, for whom she frequently "
• "what would be known" become.
• "storm had passed, Captain Keller looked" -> "he looked"
• "The wreck of Ira H. Owen has not been located." avoid single-sentence paragraphs.
• "had a stroke of" link for stroke?
• "Steam for which was provided" for which what? Maybe just delete.
• "hull number 14" infobox says "Yard number" 14, potentially confusing mixture in jargon.
• "in Chicago, Illinois on " comma after Illinois.
• "Ira H. Owen was involved in her first accident" -> "The first accident..." to avoid almost carbon-copy text.
• "two-masted schooner Belle Brown" masted is overlinked.
• "proceeded to head for" ->" headed for"
• "laden with iron ore, Ira" overlinked.
• No need to link fog.
• "Owen proceeded to head for" see above.
• "headed for" -> "proceeded to".
• "$10,000 worth" inflate?
• "eventually proved that" proved or proven?
• "December 5, 1903 with" comma after 1903.
• "Ann Arbor No.1 decided to tow" the boat decided?
• "and fought the fire while" -> " and the fire was fought"
• Could link car ferry.
• What's upbound?
• ""for Buffalo, New York.[16" overlinked.
• "Thomas Honner. Honner, previously" quick repeat, merge.
• "51-52." en-dash.
• Likewise for all other page ranges in the refs.
• Three spaced hyphens in the Sources section should be en-dashes.

That's it, on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: All done. GreatLakesShips (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, promoting, good work. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination (2)

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 15:02, 7 June 2021‎ (UTC)

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Ira H. Owen before 1899

• ... that the freighter Ira H. Owen (pictured) was the only victim of the Mataafa Storm to be lost with all hands? - George Spencer, Owen, Ira H.
  • ALT1:... that Ira H. Owen (pictured) was one of the first steel-hulled lake freighters? Frederick Stonehouse: Went Missing, II - Page 51

• Reviewed: Amia? hesperia

Promoted to GA by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 09:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Another banger of an article from GLS. Glad to pass it, and keep up the good work! jp×g 08:09, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

British English tag

Shouldn't an article on an American-built, American-operated, American-flagged ship that never left North America be written in American English? Surely that's a "strong national tie" per MOS:TIES? - Dumelow (talk) 06:30, 10 May 2021 (UTC)