Talk:Rashid Mahdi

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 01:54, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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An example of Rashid Mahdi's "hidden treasures"

• ... that the Sudanese photographer Rashid Mahdi was a major visual artist of a "little known period of tremendous freedom, when going to a photo studio was like going to a bar"? Source: See this quote in the article 'Discovering Sudanese Photography' https://www.blind-magazine.com/en/stories/1242/Discovering-Sudanese-Photography
  • ALT1:... that hidden treasures (see example) by Sudanese visual artist Rashid Mahdi were discovered by French photographer Claude Inverné "in the backrooms of stores, in humid, stuffy, dusty places ..."? Source: See this quote in the article 'Discovering Sudanese Photography' https://www.blind-magazine.com/en/stories/1242/Discovering-Sudanese-Photography

• Reviewed: IBM worker organization

Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC).

• At the time the nomination was made, the article was new enough and long enough. It's neutral, with in-line citations to reputable sources, including some online ones. The photos in the article are okay to use. The only issue Earwig throws up is a quote from the source. The hook length and content works. Munfarid1, I see that you've received credits for 7 DYK hooks now, so this one just needs a QPQ, and it will be good to go. Ping me when you've done one, and I'll approve this. MeegsC (talk) 20:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi @MeegsC: - thanks for your assistance, but the identical passages from the source in the article are clearly marked as quotes, with attribution. - I thought, this is allowed? Munfarid1 (talk) 21:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Munfarid1, the quotes are fine; there's no issue there. I'm sorry that my wording was unclear. I only included the link so that the promoter can see for themselves that there is no copyright violation. :) The only thing you need to do is a QPQ. MeegsC (talk) 21:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I updated the nomination template to include your QPQ, Munfarid1. Thanks for letting me know you'd done it. This one is good to go. MeegsC (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@Munfarid1 and MeegsC: I want to promote this to an image slot, so ALT1, and want to ask if the quotation is necessary. Using a quotation in a hook suggests that is the focus of the hook, but here it's just someone's description of old backrooms... couldn't we just say "old backrooms" to keep it brief and not distract? Kingsif (talk) 16:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Kingsif, personally I think saying "in the dusty backrooms of several stores" would be fine, but I'll leave it up to Munfarid1. MeegsC (talk) 16:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Kingsif and MeegsC, I agree, we can say "in the dusty backrooms of several stores". Do I have to write a new hook for that, or can Kingsif (talk take care of this, to make things quicker? Anyway, thanks to both of you!Munfarid1 (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

It should be fine. Kingsif (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Putting ALT2, which was approved by nominator, reviewer and one potential promoter as okay:

• ALT2:... that hidden treasures (see example) by Sudanese visual artist Rashid Mahdi were discovered by French photographer Claude Inverné in the dusty backrooms of several stores?

and reticking, since the previous tick may have been lost among the text. MeegsC (talk) 12:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

MeegsC, Kingsif, Munfarid1 I was going to promote this hook, but I have concerns about "hidden treasures". The hook implies that Mahdi's body of work is called "hidden treasures" but the source uses this phrase as a descriptor, not a title of his work. An alternate hook is proposed below:

• ALT2a:... that the work of Sudanese visual artist Rashid Mahdi (example pictured) was discovered by French photographer Claude Inverné in the dusty backrooms of several stores?

Is ALT2a an acceptable hook? Z1720 (talk) 15:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Looks good to me Kingsif (talk) 16:59, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Z1720 Yes, this is fine by me, too. Thanks and please go ahead with the promotion.Munfarid1 (talk) 19:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Images from Sudan in the public domain

Hello @Victuallers:, thanks a lot for taking the time to look for a photograph of Rashid Mahdi and for including it to this article. - I am pleased to learn that images from Sudan are in the public domain after 25 years. - If I ever need to find such information for another country, like Morocco or Syria, how do I go about finding the relevant time span for the expiration date of the copyright? Munfarid1 (talk) 11:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

The magic document is here. It has taken years and years to know this much (not my work). If you search for a country name then if they do have laws then this should give you the quick headlines. Sudan is particularly generous. Do you think that IS Rashid? I wasn't sure. Victuallers (talk) 15:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Great piece of information, as I am continuously working on culture of Sudan, e.g. Photography in Sudan. I have no idea, how he looked like, but will ask a friend in Khartoum, who might have known him. Thanks again for your valuable assistance. Munfarid1 (talk) 18:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Are they public domain in the USA? The photographer died in 2008, URAA date for Sudan is 2000. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

XXth century

I had to look that up. I know that it's a direct quote, but would it be a problem to change to "20th century" so that it's easy for people born after 1960 to understand? --LaserLegs (talk) 13:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi LaserLegs thanks for this pertinent comment, I never was aware of this, and done! 176.172.246.24 (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)