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ITN recognition for 2018 Toronto van incidentEdit

 On 23 April 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2018 Toronto van incident, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ad Orientem (talk) 22:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


Hi, I didn't take personally anything that you wrote. I know that Wikipedia is a cooperative operation between people with very different viewpoints. I've seen that people oppose the fact that all national elections are recurring items, and yes there are people who think there's too much sport or not the right sports. Vive la difference, I say.

However, no it won't be posted because the whole table on personnel and sponsorship is unsourced, so I've seen. Even I don't care for soccer enough to find 80 references to complete that. Harambe Walks (talk) 00:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Appropriate notificationEdit

Hey, I just proposed a merger for the article you had nominated for deletion. Regards. --Mhhossein talk 19:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

LDS/BSA commentEdit

There is a difference between "I oppose X story because it is from America" and "I oppose X story because it is a domestic issue". The passage in the ITN instructions you refer to is the former, while my comment was the latter. 331dot (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Unhelpful edits on Wikipedia:In the news/CandidatesEdit

  Please refrain from making unhelpful comments on Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. They are unnecessary, unhelpful, and not constructive.  Nixinova  T  C  20:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@Nixinova: There are quite a number of "unhelpful edits" at ITN/C, I hope you were kind enough to leave such feedback for all parties for whom it is appropriate. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
LaserLegs, I would ignore that warning. You've maybe pushed the limits a little bit, but certainly not enough to warrant being templated. And I understand how frustrating it is to deal with such poorly constructed arguments. Lepricavark (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Uninvited hate speech from a wiki-stalker who has made it clear he does not consider the United States civilized. Nothing meaningful here, just relentless victim blaming when tragedy strikes. The 7th fatal commercial plane crash in 2018 OTOH: ZOMG! VERY IMPORTANT NEWS!. FFS.
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Yes, me too. Things like "2 or 3 school shootings a year on ITN is not too many" really need no explanation. Thank goodness common sense prevailed in this case. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Common sense says that we should ignore major shootings because there are lots of minor ones? Lepricavark (talk) 21:38, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Common sense we should ignore regular events that change nothing and are meaningless. Good attempt at sour grapes by a few though. Really shines a light! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
You can keep referring to a school shooting with 10 casualties as a regular event, but telling that lie over and over does not make it the truth. Lepricavark (talk) 21:43, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
And you keep missing the point. Shootings in a war zone are not newsworthy. Give every one at least one gun, you live in a war zone. Next. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:44, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, because every American has at least one gun. Sheesh. The USA is not a war zone. Next. Lepricavark (talk) 21:47, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Read it and weep. Hopes and Prayers. Etc. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
You said everyone has a gun. That article is not making any such claim. Good day, Lepricavark (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, of course all the babies have guns, and all the people in nursing homes. Please, if you wish to make arguments, we need to think around stuff, and I didn't say "everyone has a gun", I said "give every one at least one gun", there are more guns than people who know how to use them in the US, it's a war zone. Such shootings are now so commonplace that we can safely ignore them for ITN purposes unless they break some kind of record. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


  • WP:SPA is the WP tag for first-time editors, which you were looking for at ITN/C yesterday. Hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 07:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Black Kite (talk) 00:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Wow, that sucked. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Your bog-standard Wikipedia time sink Mr PB. Now play nicely and we'll all be okay. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Meh, apparently tagging garbage refs and blatant BLP vios is "obstruction" so I think I'm back to lurking for a while. I'm surprised to see you on today The Rambling Man, didn't May declare a day of national mourning? --LaserLegs (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
No, just because the ginger nob has arrived, we're don't need to go into mourning, we'll just ignore the fruit loop. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
LOL, I was talking about your defeat by Croatia, and the fact that no matter who wins the final, you'll have to acknowledge that France is better than England. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:09, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Oh that? No, we did much better than expected or even hoped. And we were not as accomplished as the French team. But we're now all working out how to get the orange gimp out of our country. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Because France is better thank England. BTW, your personal attack up there isn't clear, "Your bog-standard Wikipedia time sink Mr PB." was that a failed contraction "You're (you are)" calling me a "bog standard Wikipedia time sink" or were you using it in the possessive "Wikipedia time sink which is yours Mr PB" in which case, I don't think it was a complete thought. The queens English escapes us here in the liberated colonies. Either way, thanks for the insult TRM, and I'll see ya around. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:24, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
No, you misinterpret. You said "that" sucked. I was referring to "that" when I said "your standard time sink". No insult at all. Unlike flying that bronze muppet over here. Return to sender. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I did misinterpret, sorry, and thanks. As for the Mango Mugabe, if you'd just paint over one of those "look right" signs on a London crosswalk, I expect the problem would be easily solved for all of us. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:36, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Eritrea-Ethiopia summitEdit

I updated the refs for the 2018 Eritrea–Ethiopia summit page. Feel free to take a look to see if they're to your satisfaction. --Varavour (talk) 21:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Nice work @Varavour:, thanks! Only two minor things, I don't know what value that Reuters article about telecoms is adding, I can't find it's information used in the body so I tagged that. Also the phrase "no war, no peace" looks like a copy/paste job (the quotes aren't ASCII 34 quotes which I'd expect from text edited at WP) and are behind a WP:PAYWALL (not a disqualifier but impossible for me to check). Anyway if you can re-word that so that it communicates the decade long stand-off it might be better. Minor things though nothing to keep it off the MP. Well done. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
"No war, no peace" is a common term to describe the conflict, to which several sources attest. As for "frozen conflict" I've swapped in an article using that term in the headline. --Varavour (talk) 23:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


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INS ArihantEdit

Thanks for your feedback, Sca. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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"A few regulars oppose?" Are you kidding? Six opposes, no supports, after eight hours = consensus against. Please undo your reopening. Thanks. Sca (talk) 16:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Nominations expire off after 7 days, not 8 hours. I'm fine with premature closing when the discussion degenerates, but that's not happened. I won't be reverting. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Ever heard of WP:SNOW? Seems others have. Sca (talk) 17:30, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
    • I'm one of those six opposes, and mine is based on quality, not notability. Do you read the remarks, or just the bold parts? --LaserLegs (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

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Have you ever considered running for Admin?!!!!!! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

An endorsement from "Mr Pointy Bollocks" himself, well you can't get much better than that! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:00, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Well some would consider it the kiss of death. I did, after all, ask Fred Bauder if he was running for Arbcom......... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks TRM, your confidence is inspiring, but we both know I'd be shot down. I stand by closing the discussion, though. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

For the record, Stan Lee was the lead news item in the UK this evening. I'm not a particular fan of comic books, and most of it goes over my head, yet I still knew exactly who he was, so I support a blurb. Illegitimi non carborundum. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:09, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

And now it's spilled over to my talk page! ARGH! --LaserLegs (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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ITNR football leaguesEdit

Hi - I meant the number of stories posted, rather than which ones were posted. A purely personal opinion would be that we post the three leagues that have the greatest audience around the world - that would be, by quite a significant distance, the existing Premier League and La Liga, plus as I mentioned Campeonato Brasileiro Série A. I'm a little unsure why we post Bundesliga instead of Brazil (or even instead of Serie A, which is currently a more successful league in terms of ranking points and has a bigger world audience), but it's not something that's bothering me enough to start another boring section on ITNR, to be honest. Black Kite (talk) 11:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Plagiarism Face-smile.svgEdit

Oh, dear, Laserlegs, I see you appear to have been wickedly plagiarising Oxford/Cambridge/Waltcip's Law without crediting it to either Oxford, or Cambridge, or Waltcip.   Unless of course Waltcip stole it from you in the first place.   (Of course I've no problem at all with anybody stealing it without attribution from Godwin.  ) Tlhslobus (talk) 02:51, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

In truth, I just wanted to stop it before the klaxon went off. Perhaps an RFC for a new policy WP:BOATRACE is needed. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:15, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
LOL, Laserlegs, but that looks like a bad case of an (allegedly) irrational and presumably politically incorrect fear, tho I'm not sure whether it's klaxonophobia or TRMophobia or both   Tlhslobus (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps if the MV Viking Sky cruise ship were involved in a race, the evacuation would have been more notable...--WaltCip (talk) 13:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
One wonders how long it would have taken ITN to post the Titanic sinking. Would we have waited until the Carpathian got to New York with survivors? Or maybe until the British board of inquiry concluded its investigation three months later? – Sca (talk) 17:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)


Legs, I'm not sure how to start an RFC – Would you care to do it? – Sca (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

It really just starts with a new discussion, if we get broad support we can just enact it, else there is a formal RFC process which is adding a template to the page and including it in a list of pages at WP:RFC but I'd only do that if the consensus was split. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:CEN is now open!Edit

To all interested parties: Now that it has a proper shortcut, the current events noticeboard has now officially opened for discussion!

WP:CEN came about as an idea I explored through a request for comment that closed last March. Recent research has re-opened the debate on Wikipedia's role in a changing faster-paced internet. Questions of WP:NOTNEWS and WP:Recentism are still floating around. That being said, there are still plenty of articles to write and hopefully this noticeboard can positively contribute to that critical process.

Thank you for your participation in the RFC, and I hope to see you at WP:CEN soon! –MJLTalk 19:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

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