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Pro-life boycott section
editI removed the biased reference, now showing that PepsiCo started a collaboration with Senomyx. The middle of the section the reference is not bias, it is showing that groups did boycott, and that PepsiCo responded but, less on the response more on that groups did call for a boycott. Also the section doesn't take a stance on the moral or ethical implications of this. Though this section and the following might be better in a new heading like on subways page titled "Controversies." Navstev0 (talk) 20:29, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
- Despite your claims, the section is biased. The addition has absolutely no reference to a single reliable source. Further, the mention of the boycott still requires a reason why the boycott was raised in the first place, which is circular because there still needs to be mention of the original biased allegations to support the boycott. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, so your telling me that a PepsiCo press release is bias? Then please tell me what is unbiased in historical research? "reliable source" Also please tell me what sources are reliable. Because the sources I had were so. The section was flagged for neutrality, removal without resolutions was unwarranted and argumentative. Support the boycott came from pro-life groups, you can't call it biased if they are the ones reporting there own boycott. I am putting it back until you can tell me why my sources are unreliable, each one please. Navstev0 (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- I am not a normal editor of this page, but do believe Wikipedia can be a great place. But hiding facts for corporations shouldn't be the goal. I see plenty of other pages that on Wikipedia that state these controversial facts. Why should PepsiCo be any different? 22:50, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not done:Sorry for the really long paragraph but I can't figure out how to separate them and yet appear as one response. Part of the flaw of this section is the fundamental issue: the accusation of using embryonic cells in research. Any use of embryonic cells is an extraordinarily contentious issue, so the very mention of it should raise red flags about possible neutrality problems. But that in itself shouldn’t necessarily be grounds for removing the whole section. However, this section references a source from LifeNews.com, which positions itself on the far side of the pro-life debate. That is another red flag for neutrality problems. The article used in the reference also strikes a polarized tone with language like “cells from babies victimized by abortions”. Again, not neutral. The bulk of the section also seems poorly written, as if PepsiCo themselves are accused of doing the contentious research. Who can re-write this with a neutral tone, because at this time it doesn’t have one. Also, to the user “Navstev0”: you’re not helping your case. When other editors have removed this section, you’ve been one of the people that has been restoring it. My problem with that is the comment you used earlier today: “Dang wiki nazi.” You’re not helping your neutrality argument when you call someone a Nazi. --MikeUMA (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- I apologize for the commit stated “Dang wiki nazi.” My stance on the comment was that my section was removed even though it was stated that there was a talk, and the user didn't participate in the talk other then telling me that I was biased with no direction as to what gave those conclusions. I see your point, on the tone from the reference to the LifeNews article, I will attempt to rewrite the section from a more neutral stance. Navstev0 (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- I rewrote the entire middle portion to be more neutral, and changed the reference to only show that there was a boycott issued, as any further information was considered to have a polarized tone. Navstev0 (talk) 06:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- I apologise for removing this material repeatedly even though it was added in good faith. I don't think it was suitable in that form and with that sourcing for an article like this. I wouldn't rule out including a mention of this if it can be better sourced and a form of words agreed here though. --John (talk) 23:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Newly added Controversy section
editThis edit added a Controversy section that was unsupported by the link provided [1]. Per WP:BRD, I'm reverting the addition, and welcome discussion. JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- In total, I think it should be a good article. No objections, no controversy. And, it's a very important article too. --Rossi101 (talk) 05:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)Rossi101
PepsiCo distribute?
editFrom the article, I copied the following sentence: "PepsiCo also distributes the soft drink 7UP in Europe via license agreement." The above statement about distribution is news to me because I live in the UK, where Pepsi and Mountain Dew are distributed under licence by Britvic Soft Drinks Ltd., making it more than likely that they're sub-licenced to distribute 7UP as well. Sheogorath 178.99.200.63 (talk) 09:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Frawg is an unremarkable product itself, but would make a nice little section on the page about PepsiCo. Technical 13 (talk) 12:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Multinational Cos are Thieves and Plunderers
editBe it pharma, soft drinks, fmcg, tobacco, consumer electronics or anything: these multinational companies are a set of thieves and plunderers. They plunder people's money, health, peace-of-mind, and keep innocent people in illusion that life is beautiful, and is a cozy bed of roses. Rascals number one! -59.95.15.213 (talk) 17:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Soviet Union Citations
editThe section on the Soviet Union relies on a single secondary source. Here are some contemporary news articles which can be used to improve the accuracy and citations for the section:
- NY Times: Soviets Buy American, (May 1989)
- Washington Post: Pepsico Sets $3 Billion Barter Deal with Soviets , (April, 1990)
- Los Angeles Times: Bloc-Buster Deal, (July, 1992)
Working conditions Frito Lay strike ended
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Change “The strike began on July 5th and is currently ongoing.” To “ The strike began on July 5th and ended on July 23rd.”
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/07/26/frito-lay-strike-topeka/ 2600:8803:5C00:8C:745C:D706:E9D:5F5C (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲(talk) 20:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2021
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Remove environmental criticisms from summary and add to criticisms or environmental impact section. If that's not possible, add environmental criticisms to Nestle and Coca Cola summaries as there are plenty of scholarly sources to cite for those two as well. Blacktwolf (talk) 12:49, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. The lead is a summary of the article, which has an Environmental record section, so it should be represented in the lead. This talk page is not the place to request edits to other pages. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2021
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Two grammatical corrections: (1) Location: 2nd paragraph of article; first word of 2nd sentence: Change Pepsico to PepsiCo with a capital "C". (2) Location: 2nd paragraph of article; 3rd sentence: Change "market capitalization; PepsiCo is..." to "capitalization, PepsiCo..." with a comma instead of a semi-colon. Goman1 (talk) 23:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Per quizzes Snapple is an iced tea subsidiary. All this shows is Nestea. I lost! Horsewoman58 (talk) 16:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
There are only 195 countries
editOne of the first sentences in the body section of the article describes PepsiCo as operating in over 200 countries…? 173.54.54.157 (talk) 14:33, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @173.54.54.157 PepsiCo is not the UN, so they may define "country" differently. I, for once, certainly recognize some countries they don't and don't recognize some countries they do. However, this is not the place for that discussion. Deluzejaylewis (talk) 20:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- The source for this is likely the PepsiCo website, which refers to "more than 200 countries and territories around the world" - this is inaccurately paraphrased as "more than 200 countries".
- Seems like it would be entirely unobjectionable for a confirmed user with the right privileges to edit this. :) Colin.jaquiery (talk) 02:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
GMO...
editWhy is the brief section about GMO included under "Environmental Record"? There's absolutely nothing about their any-kind-of record in the tiny text there, let alone environmental. 2001:4898:A800:1010:520:A563:CC9A:AC1A (talk) 23:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Needs more on criticism
editWe have a large article on criticism of Coca-Cola but this article on PepsiCo didn't even have a criticism section. I notice some of the criticism is present in other sections (about environment or nutrition). I do wonder if we don't have a PR shill problem (is there someone on PepsiCo's payroll removing negative content from this article...?). We certainly do need an article on criticism of PepsiCo. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:35, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Soviet Union section
editThe line, "PepsiCo re-negotiated a US$3 billion deal to exchange syrup for vodka and a small fleet of decommissioned Soviet warships including 17 submarines, a frigate, a cruiser and a destroyer," doesn't seem right. From several sources, including some of the ones cited here, it seems that the $3 billion deal in 1990 was something else entirely or that the flotilla was only a small part of the deal, so there seems to be a conflating of events. Here's another article about it. There seems to be so much misinformation about this that it's difficult to tell what's true and isn't. SonOfPlisskin (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SonOfPlisskin Done, I think. As you said, there is so much misinformation on this dead that seems to be based on (formerly) reliable sources reporting on facts presented in YouTube videos without further fact checking. As far as I can tell, the 20 ships were part of a 1989 deal that also included two much more valuable (and operating) oil tankers, while the $3 billion deal was for 85 ships over 10 years. I updated the article the best I could. --Ahecht (TALK
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PEPSICO Under the 'Soviet' section, Nixon is listed as PRESIDENT in 1959. Nixon was VICE PRESIDENT in 1959 and did not become PRESIDENT until 1968. 72.66.32.192 (talk) 15:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2023
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In the Soviet Union section of the page on the very last line it claims that the deal for the old navy vessels did not take place, however both links that are listed as sources (57, 58) say that the deal DID go through. This seems to be a contradiction. Wyattshumaker (talk) 02:28, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: The deal that included "decommissioned Soviet warships including 17 submarines, a frigate, a cruiser and a destroyer" is the one that fell through. The renegotiated deal included a fleet of obsolete and decrepit Whiskey-class Soviet submarines, already planned to be scrapped by the Soviets, which were sent directly to a Norwegian scrapyard. The article is correct and supported by its sources as written. General Ization Talk 03:09, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- The deal that fell through was for 85 ships over 10 years, per the Foreign Policy article. --Ahecht (TALK
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- The deal that fell through was for 85 ships over 10 years, per the Foreign Policy article. --Ahecht (TALK
Wiki Education assignment: NAS 348 Global Climate Change
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 January 2023 and 1 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): PineconePicker777 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by TotalSolarEclipse (talk) 19:15, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2023
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Add Propel link Cbowman0219 (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done Tollens (talk) 23:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2023
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Addition to:
Charitable activities
editIn late 2023, PepsiCo announced the third year of its global agriculture program, the Positive Agriculture Outcomes (PAO) Accelerator, by backing eight new innovation projects to address some of the most urgent challenges facing agriculture across nine countries. <ref title=PepsiCo’s Global Agriculture Initiative: Accelerating Positive Outcomes and Sustainable Innovations|website=Prolific News|date=November 21, 2013 |url=https://prolificnews.com/pepsicos-global-agriculture-initiative-accelerating-positive-outcomes-and-sustainable-innovation/%7Caccess-date=November 21, 2023}}</ref> Glyle2 (talk) 18:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- In progress: An editor is implementing the requested edit. Awhellnawr123214 (talk) 02:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Quaker Foods NA
editAmong the products it produces I saw no mention of Quaker Oats Oatmeal Squares. Do they only produce the mentioned Cap'n Crunch and Life cereals? There is also a snack mix that Quaker makes that includes the Oatmeal Squares product. I get that this could be a Frito Lay product, but is it produced by QF NA also? If not I can add in the above mentioned product. Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 17:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Missing cats
editWe should add Category:Companies in the S&P 500 Dividend Aristocrats and Category:Companies in the Dow Jones Global Titans 50 92.15.218.61 (talk) 16:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024
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Update the CFO from Hugh Johnston to Jamie Caulfield. Miswise (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)