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A slightly longer term analysis is by no means as clear in supporting your preferred option. I think that to move it less than one day after not even bothering to make it clear to watchlisters that you are actually proposing a move is very poor. You should revert yourself. DuncanHill (talk) 18:06, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
The building is called Pencarrow House, why on earth has it been moved to Pencarrow Mansion???? 18:54, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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– I moved this page earlier today to make room for a new disambiguation page. As I stated in the item above, this isn't the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on page view analysis. Note that this link covers roughly two months worth of data up until 29 October (the last day where "Pencarrow" referred to the house. Note also that "Pencarrow Heads" was a redirect until yesterday that got some daily views, too; this is an article as of earlier today. I am aware that there is a further Pencarrow Heads in Cornwall (no idea whether it's well-known). Either way, the analysis as is has "Pencarrow" at 10 of a total of 23 views of all the Pencarrows. I thought that all this is rather uncontroversial and hence I moved the article without discussion but User:DuncanHill does not concur. I shall therefore put this case to the community on behalf of DuncanHill so that the community can weigh in. Schwede66 09:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.B dash (talk) 11:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.SITH(talk)12:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support as the page view analysis I posted in the section above shews, the house (when it was at Pencarrow) got more than twice as many views as the other candidates over a 90 day period. I would note that owing to the opposition of seasons between Cornwall and UK, and the fact that people are more likely to search for holiday and outing destinations (whether historic houses, or landscape features) in Summer, the choice of October for a viewing analysis is likely to favour a Southern Hemisphere place. Perhaps figures for a whole year would be better. The electoral division was a short lived entity, the head is called Pencarrow Head, and the lighthouse is called a lighthouse. I would be interested to know too if many - or any - incorrect links to Pencarrow were found when the article for the house was there. If there were many then it would incline me to accept that the disambiguation was necessary, if there were not then it would seem to be disambiguation for disambiguation's sake. I will add that it would have been much better for Schwede66 to have made a proposal before moving, rather than making the move he wants, refusing to revert, and then making a proposal in which he does not believe. I think making a proposal in order to make the very first !vote an oppose is a bit off. DuncanHill (talk) 10:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I know the "hamlet", it's barely that (even by Cornish standards). Basically a farm and its associated buildings that are now houses. DuncanHill (talk) 11:28, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
DuncanHill, I invited you to put a formal move request forward but since you weren't doing it, I thought I better do it myself. I'm sorry to hear that doing so (and then, naturally, voting first) is yet another reason for you to be upset. I think there were one or two links pointing to the house that were meant to point to one of the New Zealand articles (e.g. this one). Schwede6611:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
There's nothing wrong with a bold move, but if opposition then develops, it's usually best to revert to the stable title first and then make the proposal. Station1 (talk) 08:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Weak oppose If there was a PT, I think it would indeed be the house, but the house appears to be sometimes known as "Pencarrow House" (from a simple Google search), so WP:NATURAL may apply (and the views don't indicate a clear PT), however the OS and the Listing call it "Pencarrow" so it could go at Pencarrow, Egloshayle. Pencarrow Head is in Lanteglos parish, although there is currently no content in that article, there is content about a short walk by the National Trust. I don't think over the (at least 3) places of this name, there is a clear PT. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:00, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Comment If disambiguation is kept, then do we think it should stay as Pencarrow House, or be Pencarrow, Egloshayle, or something else? Even if DAB isn't kept, the Commons category should be disambiguated, as should Pencarrow Head. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:49, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
It certainly should not be "Pencarrow, Egloshayle", as that is a name somebody made up one lunchtime, not one actually used. It may be in the civil parish, but nobody would answer the question "Where is Pencarrow?" by saying "Egloshayle". DuncanHill (talk) 15:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Using the civil parish is the usual DAB when there are multiple places in the same district (since mainland Cornwall is all 1 district). I assume you think that the current title is best if it remains disambiguated. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:09, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
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