Talk:New York Yankees/Archive 6

Last Allstar game

There is a small paragraph about the last season at Yankee Stadium and mention of it hosting the All Star game. That's really all that needs to be said on that matter as this article is about the Yankees and not about the 2008 MLB All Star Game, Home Run Derby, or Josh Hamilton. Tjrover (talk) 17:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Post strike fallout Mattingly and Buck

Citing Mattingly and Buck leaving as major post strike fall out for the Yankees is really a bit of a reach. While the research is commendable, citing one journalist's book doesn't make it true or worthy of mention here. It's common knowledge that Mattingly's balky back caused his early retirement. Along with Buck's falling out with Steinbrenner his pitching moves (hanging Cone out to dry in Game 5 of the ALDS) are the most commonly cited reasons for Buck Showalter's departure. Also saying the Yankees had the best team in 1994 is not POV, the Montreal Expos had the best record in baseball that year along with some great players. The strike ruining the team's promising 1994 season was a pity but the Captain Obvious quotes don't belong either being this is an encyclopedia and not sports journalism.Tjrover (talk) 01:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Buck leaving was a fallout. The Yankees had the best record in the American League in 1994, but got nothing to show for it. He led the Yankees to the best record in the American league that year, but the strike ended any hopes that the team would be in the playoffs. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 02:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Showalter left because of a falling out with Steinbrenner, not because of the strike. His quotes about the Yankees being the best team etc are non pov, what else would a Yankee manager say in that situation? The Expos had the best record in baseball and a wealth of star power. The same could be said about the Expos and Larry Walker, John Wetteland, Marquis Grissom, etc etc. If there are other credible sources and not just one journalist's book that prove the strike ended Showalter's Yankee career I'll let it go. The quotes don't belong anyway, this isn't the sports section of the NY Post.Tjrover (talk) 03:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I got no problem mentioning that the strike did lead to Showalter leaving the Yankees. Both falling out with Steinbrenner and the strike led to Showalter leaving the Yankees. He continues to be haunted by the strike and that's why he left the Yankees, because he had molded a dysfunctional team into a cohesive one. It also ended his chances of leading a team into a World Series. Don Mattingly suffered a bad back, but the strike did affect him, as it ended any hopes that he would be in a World Series. In many ways, the strike meant death to Don Mattingly's playing career. Both Showalter and Mattingly left the year after the strike. -- SNIyer12 (talk), 12:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Think about it, if Mattingly was on a World Series team in 1994 it would have been all the more easier for him to retire the following year, it's common knowledge his bad back was the main reason he retired.Tjrover (talk) 18:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with TJROVER. Talking about the factual occurrences resultant from the strike fallout is fine, but when you get into describing the emotional fall out etc it becomes too much and arguably not pov. Furthermore it seems you are trying to start an edit war as you only are re-adding material over other people's objections without even trying to discuss it. Grow up man. Plus you are sourcing this material primarily to a journalist's book, which isn't the best type of source as these books aren't always POV. Just my $.02 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.31.230 (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Have to agree with the other 2 comments. Quit being childish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.33.196 (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

You continuously re-insert your edits into this article without any form of adjustment to address legitimate concerns and questions that have been raised by your very questionable edits, nor do you make any attempt to discuss here. Furthermore your user page reveals comments from other users asking you to refrain from inserting opinion based edits into several other articles, which is exactly what you have been doing here as well. Please stop. Thank you.Tjrover (talk) 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)TJRover

Roger Maris and the HOF

This article lists Maris as a hall of famer. While he probably should be a hall of famer (along with fellow Yankee great Don Mattingly) he's not. Please correct this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.80.255.106 (talk) 02:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Why is Number 8 retired twice?

The Infobox has a list of retired numbers. Why is number 8 retired twice?

Anthony22 (talk) 23:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Because it is retired for 2 separate players: Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

"New" Yankee Stadium

Has there been a resolution to the naming issue yet? Why do some continue to list the new stadium as "New Yankee Stadium" when the ballpark is called, simply, "Yankee Stadium?" The convention to follow in this type of situation (two distinct and successive ballparks with the same name) is reasonably clear: use Roman numerals in parenthesis when it's necessary to distinguish between the structures. This is how it's done, for instance, with the Polo Grounds (i.e., Polo Grounds (I), Polo Grounds (II), Polo Grounds (III), Polo Grounds (IV)) and Madison Square Garden (i.e., MSG (I), MSG (II), MSG (III), and MSG (IV)). The solution is NOT to create a new name out of thin air, as the misnomer "New Yankee Stadium" does.-PassionoftheDamon (talk) 19:58, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

The Yankees themselves call it "New Yankee Stadium", so it's not out of "thin air". Roman numerals, aside from being uncited reliably, could raise issues with those who would argue that the building just closed is properly "II", and that the 1923-1973 structure was "I". Once the current Yankee Stadium becomes the "old" Yankee Stadium (which is not yet the case on the Yanks website), then the simple solution is to go with "Yankee Stadium (1923)", as with the old Wembley Stadium. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 20:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Good points all around, I think this issue will fade over time, especially once the "Old" Stadium is demolished. Tjrover (talk) 22:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

GA Nom

I think that this article is good enough to at least be nominated for GA status, so I put it up there. At the very least, we will get a list of corrections that will make it GA, if it's not already. --Sportskido8 (talk) 13:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:New York Yankees/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I only did a skim of the article, but I found several issues already:

• Virtually everything between 1901 and 1981 is unreferenced. I count one ref in that whole segment. That's an auto-fail right there.
• Any quoted statements need to be sourced. I count many that are not.
• The fight and theme song section is unreferenced, as are a couple more sections.
• On the plus side, the refs that do exist are well-formatted.

I'd go further, but with all due respect this article has to be adequately sourced before it'll be seriously looked at. That being said, I like the format, and on the surface the prose seems good. IMO that's the hard part. I'm not expecting every sentence to be linked, that would freeze the page. But sentences such as "Their actions, which antagonized Ban Johnson, garnered them the nickname the "Insurrectos"." and "Throughout the summer, Mantle and Maris hit home runs at a fast pace, with the media calling them the "M&M Boys"." have to be cited. Once everything is cited that needs to be, bring it back to GAN and hopefully it'll turn out better. Wizardman 01:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The quick fail criteria for a GA-nomination is "The article completely lacks reliable sources", not "The article needs more sources". It was good advice, but I'm not sure it warranted a quick fail. --Sportskido8 (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The Imperial March

In the article The Imperial March, it says that that tune is always played when the guest team enters the playground. Can somebody confirm this? --PaterMcFly (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

yamkee unused tickets

i have some tickets i bought at a estate sale there were never used, the reason was that year the Yankees did'nt make the american league playoff but inantisapastion this tickets were printed, can anyony tell me what year this was. Thansk in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.208.230 (talk) 18:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Criticism of the Yankees

Why does the Yankees page have a criticism section, which the other major league teams lack? When taking into account all of the teams' articles, the Yankee one is not neutral. The 2nd paragraph contains weasel words which is not backed by research ("Much of the animosity toward the team may derive from its high payroll"). Kuvopolis (talk) 03:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

If any team should have a criticism section, it's this one. I'm a big fan, but I'll be the first person to admit that this team is criticized more than any other team in the history of sports. --Sportskido8 (talk) 21:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Well for Wikipedia to be a fairly neutral source of info, the Yankees should not be singled out. Kuvopolis (talk) 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

It just figures that the Yankees, the winningest franchise in the history of the world, would be the only one with a criticism section. On the other hand, when other team's pages report that their teams went 86 or 88 or 100 years without a champion, or was the first team to garner 10,000 losses, a criticism section seems like a redundancy. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 15:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I can understand a comment or two about "the Bronx Zoo" or "the Evil Empire", but an unsourced comment about chanting "Yankees suck"? Granted I did hear that chant one time at a concert in the Boston area, but still... --Muboshgu (talk) 17:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I also take issue with the statement re the animosity toward the team "may derive from its high payroll". The BB's won 20 championships before the Free Agent era and have won six since. The animosity towards the Yanks started way before that, especially by The Brooklyn Dodgers and the other teams the Yanks beat in the WS. At least the statement should be ammended to read- ...the recent animosity re their payroll...Dcrasno (talk) 15:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The list of reasons can be many, but the bottom line is that non-Yankees fans hate them because they win so often. Money does figure into it, though. Even forgetting free agency, the Yankees typically have been willing to spend what it took to win. Few clubs were either willing or able to do that. Spending does not guarantee success, but it improves the odds. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Bugs?!? Is that you again? We “met” in the Paul Simon talk page, but you scampered away. I’m not sure why I even responded to a person who represents him or herself (or is “channeling”) a cross-dressing rabbit who cracks wise in a Brooklyn accent? Are/were you a Brooklyn Dodger fan? Or are you just another green-eyed “Bastan” baked (fried) beanhead who projects his teams organization’s forever+ years cheap, paltry, hare-brained salary policies that ensured, and the fans who endured, the teams utter, abject failures in the WS on the Yankees. I would love how know exactly how you know, who “hates” The Yanks, the “many” reasons why they hate them and when exactly the animosity began? Was it the 1920’s, after the Sux owner sold Babe Ruth to the Yanks (to finance a second rate, Sox-like failure of a Broadway show) and single-handedly not only, doomed their team to their failure, but handed the Yanks their first piece of the puzzle that became the Yankee dynasty? Was it in the 40’s and 50’s after the Red Menace acquired the “greatest” (?) hitter of all time, the always surly, dependably nasty, Ted Williams, who never got the team to the WS? Or was it in the late 40’s, the 50’s and 60’s when the Yanks, with (homegrown) Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford, Berra and a Broadway- sized cast of role players ripped off an unprecedented five (count ‘em, 5) and still not even closely equaled, WS’ in a row? Oh please, please, tell me!- your pseudo-sageness. Advise me and teach me how to understand how this Sad Sax team (who couldn’t, and probably wouldn’t have), finally won a WS had it not been for free agency.Dcrasno (talk) 21:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Get a load of this guy. He thinks I'm a Red Sox fan. My team hasn't won the World Series since Roosevelt was in office. Teddy Roosevelt, that is. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Bugs- BULLY!!! Another Cubs fan. I think you've been spending too much time smoking the peripheral plants in the carrot patch and/or on your computer- and you didn't answer my question? All non-Yankees fans, like you, hate the Yankees?? Because the Yanks win so much!?! Did fanatics like you also hate The Braves in the 90's or are you just another frustrated, old-time NL'er who hates the Yanks because your team couldn't even win the Series if the opposition died.Dcrasno (talk) 22:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Cubs fans don't concern themselves with the Yank-mes very much. Most of their wrath is directed towards the White Sox, the Cardinals... and the Mets. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Intro - factual error

Hey there, I just noticed that in the introduction to this entry, the Yankees are referred to as having "more championships that any other franchise in professional sports history..." This is patently untrue - there are many football/soccer teams that have won more than 26 league championships. This section ought to be changed to read something like "more championships than any other North American franchise in professional sports history..." People from all over the world read wikipedia, and the statement as it currently stands is highly USA-centric. Mulliken (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I've updated the article to reflect that. One example that contradicts the statement is Juventus, which have won the Serie A scudetto 27 times. Mindmatrix 13:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

"$ Coin science $"

I take a little issue with the line that says that "coincidentally" the last time the Yankees made the playoffs before 1995 was the the last time there was a major work stoppage. This was no coincidence. The fortunes of the Yankees have always ebbed and flowed with collective bargaining. It is no coincidence that the Yankee dynasty was unable to recover from 1964 on--the amateur draft was instituted and they could no longer outbid everyone on players. Similarly it is no coincidence that their fortunes rose again with the rise of free agency bringing Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson et al to the big apple. The 1981 CBA restored competitive balance (slightly, the Miller/Fehr crowd would throw the word "collusion" around) and ten different teams won the next ten titles. Since the 1994 strike the rules have once again favored the large market teams. Yes, the Yankees are the most successful franchise in major league history. Nobody is disputing that. But it is no coincidence that they've been a hell of a lot better when money talked. I've removed the line as it offends me as an economist and a baseball fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.50.71 (talk) 01:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Money isn't everything, as the Yankees are the biggest spenders and still haven't won it since 2000. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 14:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Liza Minelli sings New York New York?

NEVER. Win or lose Frank sings. Some Boston fan had to have put this in. How do we get this corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.211.209 (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorrry, but you are wrong. I have been to many games and they do play the Liza Minelli version of the song when it is a loss, and always the original Sinatra version when they win. This is not a Boston conspiracy.--150.250.155.186 (talk) 13:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't go to games at Yankee Stadium, but I've seen them on TV from time to time, and I know anecdotally at least, that Liza's version has, at the very least, been used in the past. I don't know what their present policy is. But it's not a Boston conspiracy. If it were, they'd probably have Carlton Fisk singing it. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 14:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Retired numbers: Where will the numbers come from?

All baseball players must wear a uniform with a one or two digit number: Total: 100 numbers. (Here, I'm assuming that zero can be one of the numbers, although no one has yet used it.) The Yankees have been playing baseball for approximately 100 years. In that time 15 of the numbers have been retired, i.e., can never be used again. A baseball team needs 40 unique numbers in any given year in order to field a complete team (down to 25 for most of the season). Forty plus fifteen equals 55, which leaves a maximum possibility of 45 addition numbers that can be retired in the future before there are not enough numbers left to field a 40-man roster. Assuming that the Yankees continue to have great players in the future at the same rate as the past, after another 300 years or so, all these numbers will become exhausted. Of course, none of us alive today will see it happen, but assuming again that baseball will continue in the future for at least 300 more years, where will the numbers come from? Will players of that time be wearing uniforms numbered 173 or 692 or 997? The only other possibility would be for some of the past retired numbers to become "unretired". (But if you are a player with an "unretired" number, does that mean that you are no longer considered as great as you once were?) This is a serious question, honestly. Mamarazzi (talk) 07:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good problem to have to me. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

First, who says it's limited to 2 digits, or even if it is, that it's not subject to change? Besides which, in 300 years they'll probably be wearing barcodes or some futuristic equivalent. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 15:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we'll meet a nice alien species and we can share digits and symbols with them? --Muboshgu (talk) 17:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

And if he can throw and/or hit a breaking ball, the Steinbrenners will sign him, to a contract worth 10 billion razzbuckniks. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

And why not? Tvoz/talk 08:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Baseball had a color line and still has a gender line. Maybe some future Adrian Anson will try to draw an E.T. line. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm with Bugs, for once, re barcodes- but let's project the barcodes further by installing the bc's into, wrists, ankles, top and bottom of the digital-created strike zone, top of their heads etc. Then we eliminate the umpires and use a barcode reader in the RoboDigiball Cyborgs, which of course, would have instamatic-replay projected, (or holigraphed), onto the "West-Chest, Arms, Hands-Vest" monitor or into the Cyborgs built-in virtual shades, to make all the calls. BTW, (Joe) West's last revisements were for three futuristic, DaVinciesque-visionary "Vests"; 1-the "West-Jock-Vest" to protect those RoboDigiballs, 2-the Transvesti-Vest in case any cross-dressers come into the league and 3-West's "Combo Vest" (preliminarily called the "West-Jock-Transvesti-Vest") for the women that Bugs is expecting- real soon.

Seriously, a serious problem to have. Why don't we just scrap the whole numbers thing now- preempt it, before the rush starts. 300 years is right around the corner. And BTW, why do the uniforms need #'s at all- why can't they just put their names on the uniforms and alphabetize them. You know- Rodriguez, A- Rodriguez, J- or A-Rod, B-Gard, H-Ram etc. or even a dual character system, like PR or MM, etc. but that would confuse the issue- fans wouldn’t be able to distinguish (Mickey Mantle) cryo-reanimates MM7.5.012 and it’s cyborg counterpart (Former Policeman and currently London Limeys fourth baseman) R(obocop)2MM7 or (Pete Rose) PR14.5.019 and it’s cyborg counterpart C3PR14. Never mind.Dcrasno (talk) 01:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)69.121.181.174 (talk) 00:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.181.174 (talk) 00:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The numbers were invented for the fans in the stands, i.e. to sell scorecards to them. The names were put on uniforms for the benefit of TV viewers. Both are still useful in their own way, and it's important to realize that numbers are larger and more visible to fans in distant seats than names are. Regarding the future, I'm sure all that stuff could happen. And 300 years hence, the NL and the AL will still be going their separate ways on the DH. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Hall of Famers

Bob Lemon isn't listed. I know he wasn't a Yankees player but he is associated with the team as a former manager and coach. Shouldn't he be listed? And the team architects, such as Ed Barrow and George Weiss? Do they get a separate box from the players/managers and Ford Frick awardees? How should this work? --Muboshgu (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Mariano Rivera

To currect false information you posted in the article. You have under "the joe torre years". That Mariano Rivera was a rookie in 1996. His rookie season was 1995. You can confirm that by looking it up in wikipedia in his file.24.46.210.143 (talk) 01:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done --Muboshgu (talk) 01:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

1994 World Series error

The year 1994 should not be listed as a "World Series Championship", as there was no 1994 playoffs or World Series due to the 1994-95 strike. Richmwill (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

That nonsense was added by a user a day or two ago, here[2] and to the Dodgers page, based on some "simulation of who would have won" in 1994. Obviously inappropriate. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Cardinals World Series error

The page says that the Cardinals have won 11 World Series. They only won 10. Someone should correct that, assuming there's anyone who cares about accuracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.217.116 (talk) 08:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

"Cotton-Eyed Joey"

I just wanted to add information about "Cotton-Eyed Joey." His real name is Joe Pisanti and he is a Bronx native. I was hoping to have that added into the section that touches on him. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.134.170.35 (talk) 05:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't realize there was a mention of that at all. He's of dubious notability at best; we don't need to know who it is. --Muboshgu (talk) 17:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Jose Molina

Jose Molina should be added as a catcher —Preceding unsigned comment added by Disposableheroe (talk • contribs) 18:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Jose Molina is currently a free agent, not a Yankee. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Celebrity Yankee fans

There used to be a section for Celebrity Yankee fans. Why/where has it gone? There are literally hundreds of celeb Yankee fans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latinoberto (talk • contribs) 23:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

And that's the reason it's gone. The list would be endless, you'd have to find a citation for each one, and such a list serves no particular encyclopedic purpose. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:46, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Why not a brief message that the Yankees have many celebrity fans since there is already a section titled "Popularity". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latinoberto (talk • contribs) 20:30, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

historic yankee stadium

there is no photograph of 'the house that ruth built'; the old stadium that opened in 1923 (the old old stadium) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Finchtrainer (talk • contribs) 21:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Changing the colors of the New York Yankees

I Figured out that the color gray is actuly one of the New York Yankees colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjbillings (talk • contribs) 00:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

December 3/09

How do you remove the semi protection[[File:[Example.jpg][link title''Link title'''''''Italic text''''']]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjbillings (talk • contribs) 00:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Girardi Era?

That is a really lame name for the current era of New York Yankees. I'm not sure I agree with the name "Mattingly Era," either. This site comes off as if it was done by homer fans and doesn't appear encyclopediac (if that's a word).--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Please clean up the general quality of writing in the opening remarks for this article...

I suggest the following rewrite of the second paragraph, with my edits and omissions noted.

"The Yankees are the defending World Series Champions and lead the League in both revenue and titles, with 27 World Series championships and 40 American League Pennants. The club has more championships than any other "franchise" omitted in North American professional sports omit "history" omit the part about surpassing the Canadiens' 24 Stanley Cups in 99. This is not crucial introductory information. It is more anecdotal trivia than anything "and" has produced some of the most celebrated players in Major League history, including Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Yogi Berra. The franchise has seen 44 of its players inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame, and the Yankees have retired the numbers of 16 of its players.

This is the original paragraph:

The franchise is the defending World Champion of Major League Baseball and lead the League in both revenue and titles, with 27 World Series championships and 40 American League Pennants. They have more championships than any other franchise in North American professional sports history, passing the 24 Stanley Cup championships by the Montreal Canadiens in 1999.[5][6][7] Throughout the team's history, the franchise has produced some of the most celebrated players in Major League history, including Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Yogi Berra. The franchise has seen 44 of its players inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame, and the Yankees have retired the numbers of 16 of its players.

This is how I believe it should read:

The Yankees are the defending World Series Champions and lead the League in both revenue and titles, with 27 World Series championships and 40 American League Pennants. The club has more championships than any other in North American professional sports and has produced some of the most celebrated players in Major League history, including Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Yogi Berra. 44 former Yankees have been inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame and 16 have their number retired by the team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.120.209 (talk) 16:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Minor issue

I was trying to change the capitalization of the Hall of Fame table, which at the bottom says "Names in Bold Indicate..." I wanted to change the I and B to lowercase for bold and inducted, and the same for the word Bold in the Announcers Hall of Fame table. I can't figure out how to do that, so if someone with more technical skill wants to do that for me... I know it's a bit trivial, but it'll look a bit better that way. The Blade of the Northern Lights (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Had to edit the actual Hall of Fame template. --Michael Greiner 22:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, now I know what to do. I fixed the announcers template as well. The Blade of the Northern Lights (talk) 00:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Jackie Robinson's retired number

As Robinson's retired number has been changed (it basically looks the same as the other numbers now, but without pinstripes), the graphic on the page should probably be updated. Thoughts? Brad E. Williams (talk) 14:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. The current logo on the page reads "2007." Whatever it looks like in Monument Park, it shouid look like on here. Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

It's Wrong to criticize

I completly agree with Kjscotte34 and that is wrong to criticize on one of the articals. Seankuhn (talk) 18:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Most Successful Team in North America

In this article, it states that the Yankees are the most successful professional sports team in North America with 27 World Series titles. However, according to Wikipedia,Club Deportivo Saprissa (A soccer team in Costa Rica) has won 29 titles, making them the most successful team in North America. DanTheMan28 (talk) 21:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but... it's Costa Rican soccer. I'm not sure what sort of importance we should give that.--Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Costa Rica is not in north america but is located in South America

Seankuhn

Please consult a map, or at least the wiki article.--Muboshgu (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

From the standpoint of continents, Costa Rica is in North America. There is no continent of Central America, that's a geographic "region". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

okay thank you for the help i was trying to figure out how to use wikipedia Seankuhn (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC) This is not a forum for general discussion of New York Yankees. Any such comments may be deleted or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about New York Yankees at the Reference desk, discuss relevant Wikipedia policy at the Village pump, or ask for help at the Help desk Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seankuhn (talk • contribs) 18:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

We only remove comments that are forum-based (either "Yankees suck!" or "Yankees rule!") and not relating to the discussion. In this case, which continent Costa Rica is a part of is relevant, and refactoring of legitimate talk page comments is a no no. All talk comments are forever in the public record, except for those that are intended to be destructive. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

well this is creating a big fightso will you delet this please this is all it is doingSeankuhn (talk) 18:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC) please look at the Please do not bite the newcomers page Seankuhn (talk) 18:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

This thread will not be deleted. And you said you'd been here two years on your user page. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

yes but this the second time i edited something ever Seankuhn (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

1994 Strike/Comments

Reading the section 1982-1995 era of Mattingly, there are several mentions that 1994 is one of the worst years of New York sports history and I must take exception to that claim. I realize that the comments are sourced, but in 1994 the New York Rangers won the Stanley Cup -- ending a 54 year drought and elating an otherwise very depressed New York City. During the early 90s, the Rangers were very competitive and very popular in town. Furthermore, as the Rangers were going after the cup that year, the NY Knicks were on the brink of winning the NBA finals. While the Rangers won their league's championship, the Knicks fell short at the end. Regardless, the Knicks going on their run at the same time as the Rangers was a very very exciting time, and June was a wild and spectacular month for New York sports for these reasons.

I only mention this because I think to say it was the worst year for NY sports is at the least very misleading (I'd go as far as saying completely wrong). It could have been the worst year for NY Yankees sports history or baseball sports history, but the Rangers winning the championship that year really gave a huge morale boost to the city in a time where happiness was almost non-existent. I propose rephrasing those clauses to clarify those claims because as a life long New Yorker, I know that wasn't true. -Novaprospekt (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Well put. However, there has been one user who consistently tries to reinsert edits along these lines into the article. Tjrover (talk) 02:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

jankees

Im from holland and yankees is jankees. In history. maybe u can write this in this page, yankees was orginal jankees a name in dutch. Sorry for my bad language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.69.29 (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Dgriff32, 22 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} I beleive Roger Maris should be added to the list of Yankee greats for the 61 season alone let alone his entire yankee career

Dgriff32 (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. IainUK talk 23:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 69.7.226.216, 27 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Through 2010 the yankees have an all time regular season record of 9,670 wins and 7,361 losses (pct .568)best of ny baseball team.

69.7.226.216 (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC) please update this i would like to get it printed but not until its updated Y —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.226.216 (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Your arranging the years wrong

The champions, Pennants, divisions winners, and wild card winners years should not be arranged like this, 2009, 2000, 1999, 1998 and so on. They should be arranged like this, 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932 and so on. So rearrange them so they won't get confused. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.140.167 (talk) 02:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I'll change it. --Muboshgu (talk) 02:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

NOR synthesis, should be deleted?

Deletion consideration for the fourth paragraph's sentence about most sports championships, it has been suggested that merely interpreting what a list of facts states is considered to be NOR and possibly synthesis. I am attempting to get clarification on this (been a number of days without response). I may be wrong discussing this PRIOR to deletion of facts even though those facts may be synthesized since the consensus seems to be to delete facts first then "synthesize" a rationalization for it. Also citations are necessary for that sentence. Thank you for your time. Hholt01 (talk) 10:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.106.171.118, 17 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please add to list of "New York Yankees Hall of Famers" the names "Bill McKechnie" and "Leo Durocher" (under the "New York Yankees" section). McKechnie played for the Yankees in 1913 and Durocher in 1923 and 1928-9. They were elected to the HOF based on their later accomplishments as managers of other teams, but (like Branch Rickey or Clark Griffith, later managers/general managers for other teams who did make it onto this list) they did actually play for the Yankees early in their careers.

Four Yankees managers on the list were never players for the Yankees -- these include Miller Huggins, Bucky Harris, and Bob Lemon, who played for other major league teams, and Joe McCarthy, who never played in the majors at all. The footnote stating "Players listed in bold are depicted on their Hall of Fame plaques wearing a Yankees or Highlanders cap insignia" refers specifically to (among others) Huggins and McCarthy, and more generally implies that everyone on the list was a Yankees player. An adequate edit would be "Players or managers listed in bold..."

Four New York Yankees executives, none of whom ever played in the major leagues, were elected to the Hall of Fame, are not on this listing, and could appropriately be included, perhaps in a separate section; these include "Ed Barrow," "George Weiss," "Larry McPhail," and "Lee McPhail."

Source: National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum website, baseballhall.org

Thanks. 75.106.171.118 (talk) 02:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Not done. Please get a citation for this. ~~Awsome EBE123 ^talk_Contribs 14:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia neutral? Please...

How the hell is Wikipedia neutral when the New York Yankees are the only MLB team with a "Criticism" section? Shouldn't every team have one then? I'm stating the obvious here. The masses are starting to realize what a joke this website really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.89.214 (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

If you have another way to integrate the material, please suggest it. Debate the merits all you want, hatred of the Yankees is very real. Then again, I see there are no such sections on Dallas Cowboys or Duke Blue Devils. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

So add them to those articles. There's nothing NPOV about the section, since it accurately says that many fans of other teams dislike the Yankees and gives reasons those fans have - not presenting those reasons as facts why people should hate the Yankees. I'm removing both tags. PaulGS (talk) 02:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I must say, I have to agree with this. There are not many citations of it in this section, just one from a reliable source. Furthermore, I would say this smacks of WP:RECENTISM because just 50 years ago, LOVING the Yankees was "as American as apple pie." Arnabdas (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yankees Suck Image in Criticism Section

This is completely inappropriate for this article and should be deleted. If nothing else, there are no sources, nevermind reliable sources to back up what is said. On that note, do we have these same sections in other articles, or is this a case of someone who's not a fan of the team with an agenda? Oh wait- I should be assuming good faith. Source it, reliably, and not with something from a Red Sox blogger. Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the picture is completely unnecessary, but the criticism section seems to me as though it should stay. The Yankees are one of the most universally hated teams in the four major sports in the US. I think it does a good job mentioning the very high payroll and free agent signings as the main reason. The fact is, whether it's because you live in Boston and they are your arch rival, you live in Maryland and you believe they stole the 96' ALCS with fan interference (like myself, ha) or you're just a sourpuss and hate them because they have so many championships (which I believe is the second biggest reason), there are a lot of Yankee haters out there, and I think it deserves to be talked about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikist4 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Add NYY 1st by Derek Jeter.

Add NYY 1st by Derek Jeter, please. 99.181.147.26 (talk) 03:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

See here:[3]...Modernist (talk) 03:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Add from Portal:Current events/2011 July 9?

• Derek Jeter, shortstop for the New York Yankees, becomes the 28th member of the 3,000 hit club in Major League Baseball history by means of a home run off David Price of the Tampa Bay Rays. (New York Times) 99.181.131.237 (talk) 04:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested edit

{{editsemiprotected}}

In the "Distinctions" section, it mentions that the Los Angeles Dodgers lead in National League World Series appearances. This is outdated. The San Francisco Giants tie that record with 18. Please update this section-- I shouldn't need a citation. 67.180.72.215 (talk) 20:28, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

You need a citation for everything and a WP:RS

Interesting unsigned comment. You would not need a citation to state that the Giants have won 18 pennants because you can just go to their Wikipedia article and see for yourself. --67.180.161.183(talk)_{07:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

 Done The unsigned editor is incorrect. Noncontroversial facts don't all need to be sourced, especially when that is sourced at other pages. It's a matter of accuracy. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the source on the outdated fact is adequate to source the updated fact. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you trying to confuse me? --67.180.161.183(talk)_{00:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)}

Historical Rivalries

This came up in a discussion with a user when I was editing the Phillies page. I made an entry regarding the rivalry between the Phillies and the Pirates, but the user objected because the rivalry has been dormant since the early 1990's. A compromise was reached whereby the rivalry was mentioned, but under the heading "Historical Rivalries."

It occurred to me that this should also be the case with the Yankees rivalries with the Dodgers and Giants. While undoubtedly of historical significance, the Dodgers-Yankees haven't been relevant to one another since 1981. Granted, they met in interleague play, and being a New Yorker living in Los Angeles I can tell you that there was a lot of (failed) attempt at generating hype, but the bottom line is that it doesn't matter anymore except in the historical context. This is even more true for the Yankees-Giants rivalry. Again, this is of a very historical significance. But the two teams haven't had any real rivalry going since the Giants moved to San Francisco, and that was over half-a-century ago.

Generally speaking, almost everyone hates on the Yanks. But the only current rivalries of any significance are probably those with Boston and the Mets. The latter is grouped together with the Giants and the Dodgers as part of the Subway Series, which makes sense, but I think that the section headers should be rewritten so that it's understood those rivalries are not currently active.

I would do this myself, but am locked since this is a new account. I've actually edited Wikipedia for years though, but took a break and forgot my password so had to make this new one. Since I can't make the edits, I'll submit it for discussion and see what you all think. For an example to see how this was resolved check out the Phillies page. TempDog123 (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I added a template to make your request stand out. --67.180.161.183(talk)_{16:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)}

As the original user should be able to edit the article himself now marking this as answered. Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Jackie Robinson's #42

User:Mistermurdock has been removing Jackie Robinson's #42 number from the list of retired numbers, on the premise that Jackie Robinson "was not a Yankee" and that this is "a list of retired Yankees." While these statements are true, we must take into consideration the fact that Robinson's #42 is listed as retired on all 30 MLB teams' pages. Robinson's number was retired by all of MLB in 1997, therefore it should be listed as retired by the Yankees, evident in the fact that it is displayed at Monument Park, alongside other Yankee retired numbers. The only reason why it is still used by the Yankees (Mariano Rivera) is because of the grandfather clause allowing all players wearing the number in 1997 to continue doing so. Bloom6132 (talk) 13:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The section in the article lists the numbers as nymbers retired by the Yankees, not as retired Yankee numbers. There is also a paragraph in that section explaining Jackie Robinsion. Everything is sufficiently explained. Mistermurdock shouldn't be changing a thing. Has this been explained on that user's talk page? Kjscotte34 (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Former farm club

In New York Yankees#Minor league affiliations, please add the following sentence immediately below the table of current affiliations:

From 1936 to 1954, the Kansas City Blues of the American Association were a Double-A level farm club for the Yankees.

Thank you. 67.101.6.77 (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

 Not done That section lists current affiliates only. To list every affiliate the Yankees have ever had would be burdensome to the page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

? That answer appears to violate the first principle of WP:editing policy: Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required. I've marked the request as still being unanswered in the hope that you or someone else will reconsider. Thanks. 67.101.6.158 (talk) 21:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Note: I must agree with Muboshgu here insofar as listing every affiliate will get tedious. Furthermore, you do not cite any reliable sources for the addition of the information anyway so we wouldn't be able to accept it in the first place. Topher385 (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 1 November 2011

In the 'Distinctions' section, please change this: "the St. Louis Cardinals are second with 10 World Series victories. The Yankees' number of World Series losses, 13, leads in Major League Baseball. The Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers and New York/San Francisco Giants are second in total World Series appearances with eighteen apiece."

To this: "the St. Louis Cardinals are second with 11 World Series victories. The Yankees' number of World Series losses, 13, leads in Major League Baseball. The St. Louis Cardinals, Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers and New York/San Francisco Giants are second in total World Series appearances with eighteen apiece."

Jillnjas (talk) 02:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 19 November 2011

the yankees colors is also gray for their road uniform so please add to the colors. also on their roster please add spring training to it some of the other teams already have. 71.200.96.52 (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC) im done please do these two things thank you.

I've changed the color information. However, I couldn't figure out what you meant about the spring training thing. Could you please be more specific?~ Matthewrbowker ^{Say hi!} 23:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm undoing this. Grey is not a Yankee color. Every team wears road greys. Also, we only change over roster templates for spring training when there is at least one spring training non-roster invitee. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

This is the same IP address that was involved in the most recent edit war, Muboshgu. Kjscotte34 (talk) 05:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 December 2011

The New York Yankees were not created in 1901. They were created inthe 1890s, in the National League, still known as the Baltimore Orioles.

Thank You, Brendan823rocks Brendan823rocks (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

The first season of the current franchise was 1901. Baltimore Orioles (19th century) was not related to the Yankees franchise. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Red a Color

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 As we can clearly all see the Yankees Primary Logo is mainly red, except for the blue in the Yankee Hat, so how come when I put red in as a color of the Yankees, people deleted it, if there logo is mainly red. Also every other team's colors, match there logo, so I think we should consider Red a color of the New York Yankees,

File:NewYorkYankees_PrimaryLogo.svg —Preceding unsigned comment added by ValiantRed600 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

There is red in the logo, but the logo isn't that commonly used. It's never been a color that's appeared on a uniform or anywhere else. --Muboshgu (talk) 19:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

This is not true. Red has been on the socks in the form of stripes, on the jersey as stripes on the arms, and as part of many patches, and on caps as stripes and as the color of the interlocking NY, throughout the history of the franchise. --Willsied8 (talk) 23:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 What do you mean by it's not commonly used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ValiantRed600 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

ValiantRed600 (talk) 01:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)ValiantRed600 There are some red in the Yankees beside the logo,

Jorge Posada's "Rise" as core member

I just made an adjustment to the article in relation to the emergence of core players in the 90s. Jorge Posada did not rise to the Yankees in any significant way in 1996. He played in 8 games, hit .071, and was not on the postseason roster. Jorge did not even actually make the '96 team. The catchers on the '96 team were Girardi and Leyritz. It is simply not accurate to suggest that he emerged at the same time as Jeter, Pettitte, and Rivera. His true emergence as a key player was in 1998 when he began to get significant playing time splitting time with Girardi (he played 111 games). At the earliest he "rose" in 1997 when he first actually made the team and spent the season as Girardi's backup, playing in 60 games. Those other three played principal roles in '96 and were recognized as significant members of that team's roster/makeup/success. Posada was not a part of the team's core until '98. --Willsied8 (talk) 23:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Kansas City Royals

During the 1970s, the Yankees had a rivalry with the Kansas City Royals. Can I get a citation so I can put this up? There are a couple of cited articles like Paul Splittorff with citations similar to the one I need, but not necessarily the most appropriate. --Thenewguy34 (talk) 20:01, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Problems under Murderer's Row Section

There is a line in the section here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees#Sluggers_and_the_Stadium:_Ruth.2C_Gehrig.2C_and_Murderer.27s_Row_.281923.E2.80.931935.29

Specifically, this paragraph

"meanwhile, first baseman Lou Gehrig had his first big season, batting .373 with 47 home runs and 175 RBIs, beating Ruth's single-season RBI mark (171 in 1921). In the next three years, the Philadelphia Athletics would take the AL pennant each season and win two world championships."

First off, i'm not sure why the Athletics need to be mentioned in this article, secondly, this sentence seems to lead a reader to believe the years referenced were 1928-1931, when the Yankees both won the AL Penant and World Series in 1928 as well, while the Athletics won Penants in 1929-1931.

The information is both incorrect, an possibly unnecessary in relation to article. I doubt the Giants article on the 2010 World Series mentions the Cardinals winning it in 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.235.238 (talk) 06:06, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 October 2012

Shea stadium was the NY Met's stadium, never the Yankee's. It was the remodeled Yankee stadium after the first Yankee stadium. 67.246.44.110 (talk) 01:00, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LegoK^ontribsT^alkM 09:10, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Shea was the Yanks' home stadium for 2 seasons while the old Stadium was being remodeled. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

A more accurate description is that they had to share Shea Stadium with the Mets.

New rivalry with the Detroit Tigers

third time since last year and in 2006 the Detroit Tigers has been eliminating the New York Yankees. i thought this would start something a little interesting and yes I AM a Yankee fan. (go hate). -- Ceedub88 19:49, 19 October 2012‎ (UTC)

Teams that just happen to meet in the playoffs are not necessarily long-term rivals. However, the two clubs have been contenders at the same time during some eras. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:39, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Wrong hyperlink for Manager Joe McCarthy

Clicking the hyperlink takes you to the Senator Joe McCarthy's wikipedia article. Please fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smash1031 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I found it and fixed the link, but in the future please state where in the article is the error as there may be multiple links to an article. --Michael Greiner 20:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

"The Core Four"

Unless I'm missing something, this section heading is not explained within the article, which makes it confusing for an uninformed reader such as myself. Λυδαcιτγ 20:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed the heading. If anyone can think of something better or can explain the term, please go ahead and change it back. Λυδαcιτγ 08:29, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Mariano Rivera's 42 on Monument Park

Could someone whip up a graphic showing Rivera's newly retired 42?

Kwame Jackson (talk) 15:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

owner

Owner Tim Duncan Currently owns the yankees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.225.154 (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Out of circulation

Yesterday, an editor removed the content about numbers that were out of circulation, stating it's not needed. I'm going to efer to WP:BOLD and put them back. The material has been there for years. Kjscotte34 (talk) 19:19, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2014

In the section:

Move to New York: the Highlanders years (1903–1912)

I find this as the last sentence:

(Under current playing practices, this is most likely an unbreakable record).

Please put the ending period INSIDE the right parenthesis.

128.63.16.20 (talk) 19:03, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Done. I've removed the parentheses altogether. Thanks for pointing that out! —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 00:34, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Dropping the connection between the Baltimore Orioles (1901-1902) franchise and the New York Yankees.

According to Baseball Reference (matching other baseball encyclopedias and MLB themselves), there is no franchise link between the 1901-1902 Baltimore Orioles franchise and the existing New York Yankees franchise. The Orioles franchise was shut down, and a new franchise was granted to the Yankees. Only 5 players from the Orioles played for the Yankees in the next season, out of the 39 that played for the Orioles in their final season. This should be reflected on this page and the Baltimore Orioles (disambiguation) page.Grum0613 (talk) 15:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Before changing anything here, I think it should be noted that Baseball-Reference (and other similar resources) are statistical compilations, and not encyclopedias in any meaningful sense. In short, they are consumers and popularizers of baseball history, but are not themselves baseball historians. I'd suggest that before the Oriole years are yanked from this article, reliable sources for baseball history be obtained to show that these Orioles are out of place here.Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Even if Baseball-Reference's position becomes more widely reflected in other sources, I do think the Baltimore years carry some relevance because the Orioles' going under created an open slot in the American League, which was filled by the New York franchise. It's good background, if nothing else, although some trims are possible. That could be said about several of the history sections, though. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Giants2008. There are MANY sources over the past 110 years validating the link between the Orioles and Yankees, so a recent bits of revisionist history are hardly definitive. Rlendog (talk) 00:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2014

In the M&M Boys (1960-1964) section, I find this:

"Maris had played in a 162-game season and Ruth had only played in one with 154"

People not familiar with the situation could misinterpret the part about Ruth, whose regular season in 1927 had only 154 games. Try changing to this:

"Maris had played in a 162-game season, and Ruth had played in a season of only 154 games in 1927" (notice one new comma)

 Done Mlpearc (open channel) 18:49, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

No Joe?

Any Reason why Joe Torre's retired number appears in the infobox and on Torre's page and in the prose about Retired Numbers, but not in the gallery? 74.61.202.231 (talk) 09:40, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

It shouldn't appear in those places yet. #6 won't be retired until later in the month. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2014

"The Yankees have won 27 World Series Championships, earning them the distinction of having the most championships in all of professional sports." Please remove this. It is patently utterly false, despite being often repeated. Real Madrid, Celtic and Rangers have all won more championships in their respective competitions, to name but three from a single sport, in this case soccer. Please amend.

Richiemurby (talk) 01:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Done true enough, removed the 2nd part of the sentence. Cannolis (talk) 21:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2014

Under the "Current Uniform" header the following numbers are incorrectly listed as Retired numbers: 2 · 20 · 46

Sources:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/uniform-numbers.shtml

http://www.yankeenumbers.com/retired.asp

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/history/retired_numbers.jsp

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2014/08/joe_torres_number_retired_see_all_yankees_retired_numbers.html

99.73.210.68 (talk) 02:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Already done by Kjscotte34. Stickee (talk) 09:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014

In the M&M Boys item (1961), I notice this:

"since Maris had played in a 162-game season, Ruth had only played in one season with 154 games"

This refers to the controversy caused by the differing season lengths (in number of games). Try rewording to this:

"since Maris had played in a 162-game season, and Ruth (in 1927) had played in a 154-game season"

Ruth retired as a player in the mid 1930s. ALL of his seasons in the majors were 154 games each.

128.63.16.47 (talk) 21:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 00:24, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Nationality of Players

Main page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball § Nationality of Players

Given the fact that baseball is becoming an increasingly more international sport (i.e., more non-U.S. leagues in existence, more non-U.S. players in the MLB), the roster formatting on Wikipedia should probably be updated to reflect that. If you look at the formatting for other international sports (such as soccer), the player nationalities are indicated using flag icons. I think this would be a beneficial update to each of the major league rosters in the MLB, it would not be too difficult to implement and it would not clutter the information on the page. However, before such change a change is implemented, I thought it would be healthy to achieve at least some form of consensus on the talk page for each team. yuristache (talk) 01:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

International games

I would like to build a section that discusses the Yankees' performance against teams from other leagues. However, I can only find references for losses against Sabios de Vargas, Leones de Ponce and an All-Star Team of the PR League ([4][5][6]). I don't want the section to be removed as "biased". There must be several international wins to add, can someone mention some?

"Them" to those

"was trading them players for large sums of money to finance his theatrical productions."

to

"was trading those players for large sums of money to finance his theatrical productions."

I can't and thusly won't be able make this edit.

Someone please correct this typo.

Thank you, Nixon 72.177.246.49 (talk) 06:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done I removed "players" from the above fragment as the 'players' were introduced as the subject of the sentence. It now reads in full as "Most new players who would later contribute to the team's success came from the Red Sox, whose owner, Harry Frazee, was trading them for large sums of money to finance his theatrical productions." --Michael Greiner 00:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Wording in the lead paragraph

Hello, I am writing this message in order to gain WP:CONSENSUS with other editors regarding the wording of the first paragraph in the main New York Yankees article. For example, here is my proposed revision to the lead paragraph. It reads as: "The New York Yankees are an professional baseball team based in the Bronx, a borough of New York City. The Yankees are a member team in Major League Baseball (MLB), and a member of MLB's American League (AL) East division. The Yankees are one of two Major League clubs based in New York; the other is the New York Mets." By comparison, here is the current revision of the lead paragraph of the article. It reads as: "The New York Yankees are an American professional baseball team based in the Bronx, New York City, New York, that competes in Major League Baseball (MLB). The Yankees are a member of MLB's American League (AL) East division. The Yankees are one of two Major League clubs based in New York, the other being the New York Mets." I am requesting to start a discussion here as to how the lead paragraph should be written. Feel free to comment, but the main purpose of this message is to reach consensus as to how it should be written. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Baltimore Orioles history

Requesting potential changes to the page to remove the notion that the Yankees were a relocation of the Orioles. Baseball Reference has removed the history as have the Yankees themselves . Is it prudent to move in line with the position of the franchise itself in saying that the franchise was founded in 1903 in New York rather than in 1901 in Baltimore? Joe139.168.198.174 (talk) 08:55, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

New York Yankees

The color is black, grey, and white. Not navy blue!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.192.51 (talk) 23:44, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Evaluating Articles and Sources - New York Yankees

1. Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you?

From reading through the article, I felt as a lot of the information i s relevant to the New York Yankees, especially looking at specific time frames when players like Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Joe DImaggio, Whitey Ford, Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle and others who are still looked back on as some of the greatest helped to build up this great franchise. The article also does a great job of covering everything that goes on during a yankee game, including what songs are played after a win and a lost. Continuing, it's very up to date too, as it has the current players which are on the team and even players that have injuries and are on the Disabled List, like Gary Sanchez for example. 

2. Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position? I would say that this article does good job of being neutral, even though a few of the sources at the bottom are from the New York Yankees site. There are points in the article where it talks about animosity for the Yankees and possible reasons why other fans hate the Yankees, this could be from a view of a Yankee fan looking at the way other fans think of the Yankees and could possibly be biased in some way, but I wouldn't say it is heavily biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeMomma (talk • contribs) 00:55, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Baltimore Orioles

Most sources now consider the 1901-1902 Baltimore Orioles to be a separate franchise. Should we incorporate that here?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/

http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2014/07/1901-02-orioles-removed-from-yankees-history/

Evertonfc13 (talk) 20:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

There is discussion of this in Archive 6. I think it would be better to deal with this in the more detailed article about Yankee history. It is dealt with there to some extent. Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 21:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2017

The only nicknames that come up for the NY Yankees are three pejoratives. What if a child is trying to follow their team and they're from NY state? Could you possibly fix that? Hmmmm? I realize we all hate each other in the US these days, but does it need to takeover Wikipedia too?

- idctim@yahoo.com Tim Moore Tim M (talk) 01:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2017

In the leading paragraphs, Girardi is still mentioned as the teams manager, even though he has now left that position and the infobox reflects that, please remove the now outdated line. 78.147.37.213 (talk) 18:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Good catch! I made a change, but someone else is more than welcome to reword it. Kjscotte34 (talk) 18:24, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

New manager

Aaron Boone has been named new Yankees manager Classiccars757 (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect, he is rumored to be. Wikipedia does not report rumors. - Galatz^Talk 01:50, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

This is now confirmed, but the 2nd paragraph from the top does not reflect this. 131.215.220.161 (talk) 19:08, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:10, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2018

This season could be another historical one for the 2018 Yankees. The record for the most home runs by a trio is 143, set by the 1961 New York Yankees. Last season Aaron Judge, Giancarlo Stanton, and Gary Sanchez combined to hit 144 home runs, though Stanton played for the Miami Marlins. GodsInEverything (talk) 22:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: We don't deal in what "could be", just what is. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:04, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

In Popular Culture

On Wikipedia it's common for European Soccer teams to have an 'in popular culture' section, which describes when the team has been mentioned, featured or depicted in movies, television shows, books or songs. As potentially the most famous non Soccer sports team on earth, this would be an interesting section to add to the Yankees. I mention this after watching the recent film 'Rex', the true story of a Purple Heart recipient and staunch Yankee's fan's battle to gain adoption of her military dog. The final scene of the film recreates her and her dog's reception at the stadium in [I think] 2006. The Yankees are one of those small number of global sports teams that transcend the nations where their sport is popular and would have a large popular culture section. Captainbeecher (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Such sections are often poorly written, hence I stay away from them. In the case of "Rex", that seems fairly insignificant. The film doesn't even seem to have it's own Wiki entry. Wikipedia:"In popular culture" content has much more on the subject. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Poor Quality Sources in Criticism

One citation (used multiple times) is a book without specific page references, and another is dead. The section is also (in my opinion) poorly written and out of date. As a Yankee fan I recuse myself from this matter, but I invite others to contribute. (i.e. Is that the best y'all got??)Yogibeera (talk) 20:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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No citations in the header

A blatant attempt at wikilawyering having nothing at all to do with the improvement of this article.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Why are there no citations in the header? I don’t believe anything in the header cause it’s not cited by reliable sources. 97.118.143.21 (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC) For those of you who are unaware, this editor is referring to his tendentious comments on Talk:Jexodus where he claims it is unncessary to cite the fact that the Yankees are a baseball team. I therefore regard the above comment as an attempt to troll, and not a good faith attempt to discuss improvement of this article. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 03:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC) Please stop removing my comments from talk pages. 97.118.143.21 (talk) 03:37, 24 March 2019 (UTC) As the IP is no doubt aware, the lead of an article is used to summarize the article's contents and typically does not include citations. I am hatting this attempt at wikilawyering as disruptive. General Ization Talk 03:49, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Team colors

Neither of the cited sources list gray as a team color, only midnight navy blue. I'm removing it. SixFourThree (talk) 18:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)SixFourThree

The "Players' Weekend" jerseys were recently cited as an example of team colors, but those are specifically intended to be "colorful, non-traditional uniforms". In 2019, the Yankees' "Players Weekend" uniforms will be black[7], but that doesn't mean black is now a team color. SixFourThree (talk) 18:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)SixFourThree

Their away uniforms are gray, but that’s not really part of their team colors. Chris6d (talk) 18:05, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2019

Tanner Swanson is now the catching coach on the New York Yankees. Yankeesfan4224 (talk) 20:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:55, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2021

Derek Jeter should be added to list of important Yankees in the Hall of Fame in the 3rd paragraph. Basq6587 (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done Jeter hasn't been inducted yet so it is premature to say that. --Michael Greiner 05:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Jackson hit five homers in the 1977 series not four

The article is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:43:0:920:2502:571E:BD46:5A34 (talk) 05:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2022

Casey Stengel has tabbed John Malangone "the probable successor to Yogi," In honor of Sports Illustrated's 60th anniversary, SI.com is republishing, in full, 60 of the best stories ever to appear in the magazine. 2600:1001:B106:46B7:9815:F2DB:7B87:7B1E (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Larry Hockett (Talk) 16:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Yankees won the Division title in 1994

The 1994 is missing on Division title so I found the sources on MLB.com that the Yankees won the Division title in first place the record is 70—43 it say on it — https://www.mlb.com/standings/1994. 67.81.168.236 (talk) 09:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Not done: While they were in first at the time, team awards for standings were not issued by MLB. You'll notice that on that linked page the Z is issued to flag the best record in the league (the Expos have one too), but other divisions at best only have "clinched playoff berths", and nothing on that page says "division champion". Echoedmyron (talk) 14:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2022

There is a sentence in this article that states the Yankees are the second most valuable MLB team behind the Dallas cowboys, which doesn't make sense since the cowboys are not an mlb team. This should be reworded 47.16.61.226 (talk) 00:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 02:59, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2022

Change Ron Guidry’s year of retirement from 1984 to 1988.

In the “History” section, under “1982–1995: Struggles during the Mattingly years”, in the second chunk of text, Ron Guidry is said to have had a record of 22-6 in 1985, while also having retired in 1984. This doesn’t make sense, and rather, Guidry retired in 1988, which the cited source on this claim actually says. Here’s Ron Guidry’s baseball reference page which shows he played up until and through 1988, his final season:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guidrro01.shtml Buzzpmikey (talk) 03:42, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

•  Done Thanks for pointing it out. oknazevad (talk) 03:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2022

Change "Jim Crane(via ownership of the Houston Astros)" to "Hal Steinbrenner" Jakestephen (talk) 23:14, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

 Already done Cannolis (talk) 01:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit Request: Grammar Mistake

The first sentence of this page refers to the New York Yankees as a plural entity using the verb “are”. However, in the same sentence it also refers to them as a singular “baseball team”.2600:1700:BBF1:290:C9A3:CC7F:3A0:1A3F (talk) 04:04, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Not a mistake. That is correct American English usage when dealing with sports teams. oknazevad (talk) 11:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:New York Yankees/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The C of E (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

I will review this. For such a big article. This may take a few days and several rounds of comments. So please bear with me. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 10:26, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

• The Global Enterprises sentence in the lead is a run-on sentence and should be broken up.
  • I broke up that sentence with specifying that Steinbrenner bought the team from CBS (see [8]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• "Arguably the most successful professional sports team in the United States and one of the most highly regarded," - WP:WEASEL
  • I removed "highly regarded" to only include the team success based on championship wins and alike (see [9]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• How could Johnson declare major league status if the NL had already said no?
  • It seems as if Johnson just did not agree with the NL's demands regarding their agreement. I reworded that sentence to reflect that (see [10]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• What relevance does Joseph Gordon have to the Gordon Highlanders (apart from the same name), was his father in it or something?
  • According to multiple sources, that name was a nod to Gordon's Scottish heritage and nothing more than that. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• Why did the newspapers call them the "Invaders"?
  • I cannot find a definite answer to the nickname origin. It might refer to the American Civil War according to The New York Times however no connection explicitly stated. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• Is there a source for the sentence stating the Highlanders name falling out of use?
  • Sourced added (see [11]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• The article mentions Hilltop Park's lease expired but theres no mention of there being one earlier. Was it built and then leased to the Highlanders or did they own it?, sell it and lease it back and from whom?
  • I added that they leased the land from the New York Institute for Special Education for 10 years (see [12]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 11:38, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
• Why were the Yankees kicked out of the Polo Grounds?
  • I found a source that stated the Giants manager was upset with the Yankees attendance and number of home runs so he decided to evict them (see [13]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 11:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
• Why were they called Murderers' Row?
  • Added a sentence regarding the history of the nickname (see [14]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 11:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
• What other teams voted against the establishment of the amateur draft?
  • The I added the Mets, Dodgers, and Cardinals as the 3 others teams (see [15]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 11:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
• In the 1981 section, Shea Stadium is WP:OLINKed as its already linked earlier when it talks about the Mets moving from the Polo Grounds.
  • I removed the subsequent wikilinks (see [16]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:02, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
• "the Yankees were 14+1⁄2 games behind the Red Sox" - linking the Yankees and Red Sox like that is a little confusing
  • I agree, I reworded the sentence (see [17]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:02, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
  • More to come. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:52, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
• I know you're linking to teams seasons, rather than the actual team, but it does get a little misleading when the links on team names go to the season page. It should be made clearer.
  • I tried to standardize the team's wikilinks to just link to the team's main article (see [18]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
• Aaron Boone has been double linked in Baby Bombers when he was already linked earlier
  • Removed wikilink (see [19]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
• DJ LeMaiheu needs linking at first mention
  • Added (see [20]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
• Murderers Row has also been double linked in the nickname section
  • Removed (see [21]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
• Logos and uniform section is just a hatnote
  • In the process and writing a subsection for uniforms and logos. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
• Polo Grounds double-linked in Fans and why the sudden inclusion of V at the end?
• I removed the link (see [22]). The reason for the "V" was because the Polo Grounds were actually different stadiums. -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
• It would help to clarify that Barcelona, Real Madrid and Man Utd are association football clubs. Likewise that the Cowboys are an American football club
  • Specified the sports/league (see [23]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
• Old Yankee Stadium and Monument Park are double linked again in the Retired Numbers
  • Removed links (see [24]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
  • There are several multiple links in that section (Gehrig, Rivera, MLB etc)
    • Removed overlinks (see [25]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Rivalries section, more double links on the teams mentioned earlier
  • Removed links (see [26]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
• Subway Series, has it been mentioned why the games are called that, is there a direct subway link between the teams?
  • Added the term origin with a reference (see [27]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
  • More to come on the refs later. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:45, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
• WP:OLINK on repeated references to MLB Advanced media, NY Times etc.
  • I was under the impression each reference is considered standalone and therefore links for publications provide context. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 36, no page number
  • Reference states pages 9–14. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 41, no page number
  • I used the {{rp}} template, it is page 18. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Society of American Baseball Research sources, OLINK
  • See above. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 151, no page number
  • Added page (see [28]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 158 and 224, CBS shouldn't be italicised as it isn't a print source
  • Removed italics (see [29]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Sources 191 and 192, MLB the same as above
  • Done (see [30]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 205, no page number
  • Changed source (see [31]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Sources 214 and 218, MLB italicised again
  • Done (see [32]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 227, error in linking the Vindicator
  • It looks like a Google News
    • I changed the link, let's see if that works (see [33]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 237, MLB italicised
  • Fixed (see [34]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 240, no page number
  • I'm seeing page 356 in the reference. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 245, no link to online source
  • I could not find an online source unfortunately, I'll continue to look for an accessible source. -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 253, several souces in one footnote
  • Separated the references (see [35]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 254, CBS italicised (It seems to be the same for all of CBS and MLB references so I'll mention all those in here to save repetition)
  • Fixed the CBS references (see [36]) and the MLB references (see [37]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 285, same issue as 253
  • Fixed (see [38]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 01:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• ESPN (non magazine), also seems to have italicisation issues
  • Fixed (see [39]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 414, no date
  • (Date added (see [40]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 440, no accessdate
  • Added (see [41]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:38, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 454, no page number
  • Changed source (see [42]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 466, that source mentions the Bleacher Creatures doing homophobic chants, but that isn't included in the article when it should be mentioned they made a little more than a hostile environment towards opposition players.
  • Added a mention of homophobic chants (see [43]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 485, isbn number isn't consistent with the rest of the article and no page number
  • Changed source (see [44]). -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 492, no page number
  • It looks like pages 193–197 are cited using the {{rp}} template. -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Source 607, 608, 612, 618 and 619 they're looking like footnotes rather than references there.
  • I changed the references to {{sfn}} footnotes. -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

• • @LuK3:, that concludes my review. A little exhaustive I know! Please ping me when you've had a chance to have a look at the points i've raised and I'll go over it again. I won't mark it as on hold and start the 7 day timer just because I know this could take a little while with such a big article. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:19, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Thanks The C of E for the thorough review. I believe I addressed all of your points. Feel free to ping me back if I did miss anything. -- LuK3 (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
      • Looks like it now meets the criteria to me. Well done @Luk3:. This is now a GA, sorry you had to wait so long for it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Edit Request: MLB London Series 2019

Could something be added to mention that the Yankees and the Red Sox played the inaugural 2019 MLB London Series in July 2019? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.102.219.141 (talk) 15:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 18:53, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the New York Yankees have the most championships in both Major League Baseball and major North American professional sports leagues? Source: USA Today and ESPN
  • Reviewed: [[]]

Improved to Good Article status by LuK3 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/New York Yankees, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The hook is strong.
• The lead should be revised to carry the main ports needed for introduction and remove references per WP:Lead. Maybe the last paragraph could be merged or deleted.
• I'd recommend removing common wikilinks like treasurer and repeated links like Yankees. I know there are different years but the wikilink makes look like the same. How about specifying the link like how movie links often offer the year?
• Can there be a general reference for the section "Roster". No need for all.

That's all. It sure is a big article so making it GA should have been difficult. I'd recommend splitting big parts in the future to make it easier to navigate.Tintor2 (talk) 22:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

• Honestly, I do feel that it'd be a missed opportunity to make such a herculean improvement and then make our hook the one thing that everyone probably knows about the team. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:58, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
  • No kidding. Gonna throw some options and ping LuK3 and Tintor. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the New York Yankees grounds crew began dancing to "Y.M.C.A." after a team executive spotted fans doing the same during a spring training game?

ALT2: ... that Mike Royko described hating the New York Yankees as "as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income tax"?

• • Oops, that's Tintor2. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: I kinda approve ALT 1.Tintor2 (talk) 01:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I would agree with Tintor2 above. I could not find the Royko article where he says that quote. -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• I agree that the first hook is weak. Here's a couple more ALTs for consideration:

ALT3: ... that the New York Yankees were created from the remains of the Baltimore Orioles?

ALT4: ... that the New York Yankees were first named after a Scottish regiment?

And what about a picture? An article isn't really good without a good picture. Perhaps it could be a picture of Hilltop Park (right), with a hook about the Highlander name?

Andrew🐉(talk) 22:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• Full review needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

ALT3: is a strong hook.

• It had its readable prose expanded at least fivefold
• "Articles must contain at least 1,500 characters of readable prose." This article passes such guideline. Still the size is kinda ridiculous I suggest again splitting it into subarticles to make it easier to nagivate.
• It is also a good article.
• It posses citations everywhere properly.
• It's neutral and I can't see any copyright violation. If I missed something feel free to tell me. I'll say it again though. The article needs to be splitted into subarticles so that the weight it has doesn't make it hard to navigate.Tintor2 (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Bruxton, Andrew Davidson, and Tintor2:, the hook says "that the New York Yankees were first named after a Scottish regiment", while the text says that "Fans believed the name was chosen because of the team's elevated location in Upper Manhattan, or as a nod to team president Joseph Gordon's Scottish-Irish heritage (the Gordon Highlanders were a well known Scottish military unit)." I think the hook should be tweaked or replaced as it is oversimplified: it changes "Fans believed" into a statement of fact and two alternatives into one. TSventon (talk) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

The Highlanders name was taken from the regiment and is a triple play on words as it alludes to both the owner and the elevation. See Before They Were Yankees and History of the New York Yankees. Putting all the elements in the hook would be too complex as it's supposed to be a hook, not an elaborate explanation. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson and LuK3:, first, I will admit that I know little about baseball. I queried the hook as it should contain a fact from the article and be supported by an inline citation in the article (WP:DYKCRIT). The current wording of the article doesn't support the wording of the hook and nor does the following online reference, which says "The derivation of the team’s nickname is unsettled." I could not access Pinstripe Empire. The link you provided could support the hook, however medium.com is a blog site. Is Steven C. Owens a subject expert? TSventon (talk) 11:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson, Tintor2, and TSventon: I do dislike it when we make every hook as literal as possible. With that said, I would not be opposed to adding "Fans believed". I think if you want to add two team name options or any other information the hook will be ruined and definitely not quirky. As Andrew said adding elements makes a hook too complex. I put this in the quirky slot. Recently we had a quirky slot hook discussion where I thought our hook was an WP:EGG. Check out the hook we chose. ...that from the old Chicago Station, a 5 cent fare would get you as far west as California? - a person had to solve a puzzle to see that hook in the article. That Chicago station hook was not error reported as far as I know and the hook had 9,220 views. Bruxton (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm British and so quite like baseball history (it's a British game, doncha know). So, I happen to have a copy of the Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball which I bought specifically for this kind of issue. Getting it out, I find that it has several pages about the Yankees including:

The Highlanders name supposedly was created when Joseph W. Gordon was appointed the first president of the team. At the time, there was a famous British regiment known as Gordon's Highlanders. In addition, the team played at the highest point in Manhattan, Washington Heights. ... There are several versions of how the name Yankees was adopted. The local Irish population objected to Highlanders because it was a Scottish nickname...

There's quite a bit more and I can perhaps expand the article using this source to confirm that the regiment usually comes into it.

Andrew🐉(talk) 17:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I think that works. Bruxton (talk) 17:27, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Changing the article text could work, @LuK3:, could you comment as GA and DYK nominator? TSventon (talk) 08:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the long reply time. I have no objections to updating the article text to reflect the updated hook. I can try and do it sometime tonight or tomorrow. ​ -- LuK3 (Talk) 23:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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Splitting Baltimore Orioles into its own article (while keeping some information for background)

I want to preface my own personal disagreement with this, but per this very article, MLB, Baseball-Reference, and several other credible baseball sources, the 1901 Baltimore Orioles are not considered to be the same franchise as the 1903-present New York Yankees. The Orioles should have their own dedicated page located at the current redirect page here: Baltimore Orioles (1901–02). I'd personally split it myself, but I'm avoiding WP:BOLD since IMO, the scale of this move is maybe too big (even if the destination article itself may be small).

I figure some discussion should occur before anything is done.Spesh531^{(talk, contrib., ext.)} 20:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Spesh, as someone who was the primary contributor for the Yankees history FA who could have to edit part of that article depending on how this goes, I'd like to kindly suggest that you bring this topic up at the baseball WikiProject. You're much more likely to get commentary quickly by mentioning it there than just having a split request here, and you'll also expose the topic to wider attention. I don't know if the project has a consensus on this issue, but if so that's the best way to find out, and to seek a change to the consensus. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:48, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm in favor of a split, being that I was the one who finally bit the bullet and reworked the article to reflect the position of the official historian of MLB and the team itself. Previous comments in the archives against such a split were based on incomplete understanding of the situation. LuK3, one of the most frequent contributors to this article in recent history, and I in a subsequent discussion tossed around the idea of a split, but neither of us have followed through. It's definitely time. The teams are officially separate, they should have a separate article. I'd just note that there's really nothing to take out of this article, though, as it's already a pretty minimal coverage of the background. oknazevad (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I just posted a pointer to this page's discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball —— Shakescene (talk) 19:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I can't remember where, but an RFC was held on these matters (franchise relocations), about a year or more ago. GoodDay (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

That's the thing though, it's not a relocation. The 1901–02 Orioles failed midseason when the manager/part-owner bolted to the New York Giants, taking a bunch of players with him. The franchise was taken over by the league to pay out the string with layers loaned from other teams, and then folded and outright replaced with a new team in New York before the following season. It's not the same franchise, per the official historian of MLB.

Anyway, the major topic of the discussion referred to was what to name sub-articles about the historic periods of relocated franchises, ie, Brooklyn Dodgers vs History of the Brooklyn Dodgers. The latter had been in use, but the discussion came to the conclusion that shorter is better. So, taking that into account, a separate article for Baltimore Orioles (1901–1902) would be in line with that consensus. oknazevad (talk) 21:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Narrowly with regards to the article title, if this were to move forward, it should utilize four-digit years: Baltimore Orioles (1901–1902). Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I've done the work myself! Find the page here: Baltimore Orioles (1901–1902). I feel as the page could use some improvement. I combined any information I could find on the New York Yankees and history of New York Yankees articles, added a little information that was not already stated, and made the legacy section focus on baseball in Baltimore in general, and less so about the Yankees after their move in 1903. Finding information on this team outside of "the team had their biggest victory, scoring 11 runs etc." was a bit difficult, and it seems the Yankees pages already covered 90-95% of information that was usable. Maybe the Yankees pages should discuss the Baltimore Orioles (1901–1902) more generally, since current historiography around the relationship of the two teams point to them being different, and not a continuation (like the St. Louis Browns and modern Baltimore Orioles are.) Spesh531^{(talk, contrib., ext.)} 06:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I like it. oknazevad (talk) 07:47, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2023

The most successful professional sports team in the United States. 2600:4040:96DF:3E00:A828:CEF5:2E1F:EB5D (talk) 21:33, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 22:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)