Talk:New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad

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2nd para,last sentence

It opened in 1848, using trackage rights over the New York and Harlem Railroad (later part of the New York Central Railroad system) from Williamsbridge south to Grand Central Terminal, which served as the New Haven's New York City terminal.

Shouldn't it be Woodlawn instead of Williams Bridge? That's where the lines connect now. Keotaman 11:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right; the PRR Chronology and common sense agree with you. I changed the article. --NE2 15:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Full list of lines

• Hell Gate Line, Hell Gate Bridge to New Rochelle

• Shore Line, Woodlawn to Boston
  • New Canaan Branch, Stamford to New Canaan (New Canaan Line)
  • Danbury Branch, South Norwalk to Danbury - continued south from South Norwalk to Rowayton too (Danbury Line)
    • ?, Branchville to Ridgefield
    • ?, Bethel to Litchfield (Shepaug Valley Line, at least north of Hawleyville)
  • ?, Bridgeport to Botsford
  • Waterbury Branch, Devon to Waterbury (part of Naugatuck Line)
    • ?, Derby to Ansonia
    • Watertown Secondary, Waterbury to Watertown
    • Torrington Secondary, Waterbury to Torrington - continued north from Torrington to Winsted (part of Naugatuck Line)
    • Terryville Secondary, Waterbury to Plainville (part of Highland Line)
    • ?, Waterbury to Cromwell
    • Maybrook Branch, Derby Junction to Campbell Hall (Maybrook Line, at least west of Danbury, part of Highland Line from Danbury to Hawleyville)
      • ?, Hawleyville to Waterbury (part of Highland Line)
      • ?, Hawleyville to Brookfield
      • Pittsfield Branch, Danbury to Pittsfield (Berkshire Line)
        • ?, Housatonic to State Line
      • Beacon Secondary, Hopewell Junction to Beacon
  • ?, New Haven to Derby
  • Canal Secondary, New Haven to Plainville (part of Canal Line)
    • Holyoke Secondary, Plainville to Holyoke (part of Canal Line south of Westfield)
      • ?, Farmington to New Hartford
      • Florence Secondary, Westfield to Florence - continued northwest from Florence to Williamsburg (part of Canal Line south of Northampton)
        • ?, Northampton to Turners Falls (part of Canal Line)
          • ?, South Deerfield to Shelburne Falls
    • New Britain Secondary, Plainville to Hartford (part of Highland Line)
  • Middletown Secondary, New Haven to Portland (part of Air Line)
    • Laurel Secondary, Middletown to Laurel - continued southeast from Laurel to Old Saybrook (part of Valley Line)
    • Portland Secondary, Middletown to Portland - continued northeast from Portland to Willimantic (part of Air Line)
    • Wethersfield Secondary, Middletown to Hartford (part of Valley Line)
  • Norwich Branch, Groton to Worcester (Norwich and Worcester Line)
    • ?, Mechanicsville to Blackstone (part of Air Line)
    • Southbridge Secondary, Webster to Southbridge
  • ?, Wood Valley Junction to Hope Valley
  • ?, Kingston to Narragansett
  • ?, Wickford Junction to Wickford
  • Pontiac Secondary, Cranston to Pontiac - continued west to Hope
  • ?, Cranston to Warwick
  • Washington Secondary, Providence to Washington - continued west from Washington to Plainfield (part of New York and New England Line)
  • ?, Providence to Douglas (Pascoag Line)
  • Bristol Secondary, Providence to Bristol
    • East Junction Secondary, East Providence to East Junction
    • ?, Warren to Fall River
  • ?, Woodlawn to Saylesville
  • Providence and Worcester Branch, Boston Switch to Worcester (Providence and Worcester Line)
    • ?, Valley Falls to East Providence
    • Slatersville Secondary, Woonsocket to Slatersville - continued west from Slatersville to Harrisville
  • ?, Attleboro to North Attleborough
  • Attleboro Secondary, Attleboro to Whittenton
    • New Bedford Branch, Whittenton to New Bedford - continued northwest from Whittenton to Mansfield (New Bedford Line)
      • Dighton Secondary, Taunton to Dighton - continued south from Dighton to near Somerset
      • Newport Secondary, Myricks to Newport (Fall River Line and Newport Line
      • Watuppa Secondary, New Bedford to Fall River
  • Lowell Branch, Mansfield to Lowell
    • Fitchburg Branch, Framingham to Fitchburg
      • ?, Marlborough Junction to Marlborough
      • ?, Pratt Junction to Sterling Junction
  • Stoughton Branch, Canton Junction to Easton - continued south from Easton to Whittenton (Stoughton Line)
    • ?, Raynham to Taunton
  • Franklin Branch, Readville to Franklin (part of Midland Line)
    • ?, Islington to Dedham
    • Wrentham Secondary, Norwood to Wrentham - continued south from Wrentham to Adamsdale (Wrentham Line)
    • Milford Secondary, Franklin to Milford - continued north from Milford to Ashland
    • ?, Franklin to Blackstone (part of Midland Line)
      • ?, Franklin to Valley Falls
      • ?, East Thompson to Webster
  • Dedham Secondary, Readville to Dedham
  • Dorchester Branch, Readville to Boston
  • Needham Branch, Forest Hills to Newton Upper Falls (part of Charles River Line between West Roxbury and Needham Junction)
    • ?, West Roxbury to Dedham
    • Cliquot Secondary, Needham Junction to Millis - continued southwest from Millis to Woonsocket (part of Charles River Line)
  • Milton Secondary, Boston to Milton - continued west from Milton to Mattapan (part of Old Colony Main Line north of Neponset)
    • ?, Fields Corner to Milton
    • ?, Neponset to Braintree (part of Old Colony Main Line)
  • Boston Freight Terminal Branch, Boston to Boston Freight Terminal

• Main Line Springfield, New Haven to Springfield (Springfield Line)
  • Berlin Secondary, Berlin to New Britain
  • ?, Berlin to Middletown
  • Willimantic Secondary, Hartford to Willimantic (part of New York and New England Line)
    • Armory Secondary, East Hartford to Springfield (Armory Line)
      • ?, Melrose to Rockville
    • Manchester Secondary, Manchester to South Manchester
    • Rockville Secondary, Vernon to Rockville
    • Plainfield Secondary, Willimantic to Plainfield (part of New York and New England Line)
    • ?, Willimantic to Putnam (part of Air Line)
  • Griffins Secondary, Hartford to Griffins - continued west from Griffins to Poughkeepsie (Central New England Railway)
    • ?, Tarriffville to West Springfield
    • ?, Collinsville Junction to Collinsville
  • Suffield Secondary, Windsor Locks to Suffield

• Middleboro Branch, Braintree to Buzzards Bay (Middleboro Line north of Middleboro, part of? Cape Cod Line south of Middleboro)
  • West Quincy Secondary, Braintree to West Quincy - continued north from West Quincy to North Quincy
  • Nantasket Secondary, Braintree to Nantasket Junction - continued south from Nantasket Junction to Kingston (South Shore Line)
    • ?, Nantasket Junction to Hull (Nantasket Line)
  • Plymouth Secondary, Braintree to Plymouth (part of Old Colony Main Line)
    • West Hanover Secondary, North Abington to West Hanover - continued east from West Hanover to Hanover
  • Randolph Secondary, Braintree Highlands to Randolph - continued south from Randolph to Stoughton Junction
  • ?, Matfield to Easton
  • East Bridgewater Secondary, Westdale to East Bridgewater - continued north from East Bridgewater to Whitman
  • East Taunton Branch, Middleboro to Cotley
  • ?, Middleboro to Myricks
  • ?, West Wareham to Fairhaven
  • Falmouth Secondary, Buzzards Bay to Falmouth - continued south from Falmouth to Woods Hole
  • Hyannis Secondary, Buzzards Bay to Hyannis
    • South Dennis Secondary, Yarmouth to South Dennis - continued north from South Dennis to Provincetown
      • ?, Harwich to Chatham

Edit this if you want; I think I included all lines except some in New York. --NE2 15:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

This site may help fill in the gaps above; this article could certainly use this type of content. -- Beland (talk) 01:24, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Torrington and Winsted

One of the "hundreds" of smaller railways bought up and merged into the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad was apparently the Torrington and Winsted Street Railway (currently a redlink). James Alldis served as its president from 1899 to 1906, when it was sold to the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, per the following document:National Register of Historic Places Inventory-Nomination: James Alldis House. I don't see this railroad or the cities of Torrington, Connecticut or Winsted, Connecticut mentioned in the current article. Not saying this railroad is more important than other railroads merged in, but if there was an expansion of the current article to cover more, this could be mentioned. --doncram (talk) 21:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, seems to be mentioned within Connecticut Company article, tho with an apparent typo that i fixed. --doncram (talk) 21:25, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Yale Bowl trains and Fordham

I've read somewhere recently, that the NH moved from Woodlawn (NYC station) to Fordham (NYC station) because of the closer proximity to Football games between Yale and Fordham University. Any info on the exact year for this? -------User:DanTD (talk) 23:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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System map typos

@Garchy:, thanks for fixing "Worchester". My mistake in thinking you were simply removing the map; perhaps next time you might announce your intentions in the edit summary? In any case, that's not the typo I thought you were deleting the map for. Perhaps you could also change "fright" to "freight" in the legend? PRRfan (talk) 19:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@PRRfan: Funny, I was just adding a note here to what I had found - and apologies for not making my intention clearer. Upon closer examination, many spelling errors are present on this map - I counted 8 city/town misspellings alone. Unfortunately, I do not have the ability to fix every problem on this map (my graphics editing skills are limited), but I would appreciate help if anyone has the ability to fix them. If not I'll give it a go in the next couple of days:

• "Yahmouth" - should be Yarmouth
• "Woodsocket" - should be Woonsocket
• "Northamton" - should be Northampton
• "Campell Hall" - should be Campbell Hall
• "Saybrock" - should be Saybrook
• "Middletwon" - should be Middletown
• "Worchester" - should be Worcester
• "Fright" - should be "freight", in legend (thanks to PRRfan for noticing this one)

Thanks, Garchy (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I left a note on the original author's Commons talk page. They are still active on Commons and may be able to make the changes on their original file. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Everything fixed, 5 min job. In case of map problems, always contact me on my user page. I can't read discussions on all the pages, where I have added maps.--Pechristener (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Pechristener Appreciate the quick reaction and help - also, thanks for creating the map, much appreciated. I did notice the version appears to be the same as before, but maybe it's just an upload problem? - This was cleared up with this response. Thanks again! Thanks, Garchy (talk) 21:22, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Pechristener:: Thanks for the great map! PRRfan (talk) 05:13, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Map corrections

First off, props to whoever made the map, it's great. But I have noticed some issues. (Assuming the map takes place in 1929 as it states)

• The Danbury Branch was electrified in 1925, so it should be shown here.
• The Ridgefield Branch was reduced to freight-only service following the 1925 electrification of the Danbury Branch, so that should be shown too.

Thanks--Kieran207(talk-Contribs) 03:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)