Talk:Nanjing Metro

Naming conventions for stations

The scales seem to tip in favour of XXX (Nanjing Metro). That's the way the line 1 navbox has it. That's the way the line 1 article has it. However, the list in line 2 article has XXX Station. XXX (Nanjing Metro) is better because no disambiguations will ever be necessary. Plus, it's the way many others do it.

If there are no objections, I will go ahead and change this. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry I did not respond to this earlier. I have no objections because this is the way that many others do this and is the way that I personally prefer it. One problem is though there is somewhat now a movement to switch to XXX Station. All Shanghai Metro station articles were recently converted from XXX (Shanghai Metro) to XXX Station. Personally, I am fine with either one, as long as its just consistent within one system. Also, there is no naming convention for railway stations of a system so we can just make it XXX (Nanjing Metro) (for now). It is good that you are contributing to Nanjing Metro, which is one of the Chinese metro systems neglected on the Wikipedia. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 02:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm. I guess we should go with the flow. If Shanghai goes one way and we go the other, that's not good.

In categories, I see lots and lots of lower case "railway station" and "station".

There's so much inconsistency, I think the best we can do is be consistent within China.

• Beijing: Olympic Green Station
• Shanghai: Longxi Road Metro Station
• Poland: Warszawa Powiśle railway station
• Ireland Dublin Connolly railway station
• NYC: Franklin Avenue – Fulton Street (New York City Subway)
• Canada: Spadina (TTC)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Changes made

I've changed all redlinks at page Line 1, Nanjing Metro and Line 2, Nanjing Metro from XXXX (Nanjing Metro} --> XXXX Station and (Xinjiekou (Nanjing Metro) --> Xinjiekou Station (Nanjing) due the existence of Xinjiekou Station (Beijing)).

If anyone objects, and wants to make them all another way, I'm flexible. At least now, all items at Line 1, Nanjing Metro and Line 2, Nanjing Metro are consistent, where before, they were not.

Unless others speak up with objections, we can consider this matter....

 Done Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

• This naming convention is fine. As long as its just consistent within one system its fine. Good work. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 02:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Navbox confusion

I'm confused. The navboxes for line 1 and line 2 are here. I don't understand why they are in a subpage. I don't understand why line 2 is not displayed, and well....I don't understand a lot of things about it. Here are the subpages.

It seems like common sense to have them side by side and separate, like this:

• Template:Nanjing Metro lines
• Template:Nanjing Metro line 1
• Template:Nanjing Metro line 2

If there are no objections, I will go ahead and change this. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I see Shanghai and Beijing use subpages to store their templates. I'll leave the structure, more or less. But I intend on putting a single template in each. Not two or three with duplicates that confuse me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. Sorry I have not responded to this earlier. When I created the templates, I did model it based on Shanghai Metro`s templates. You can change it as you wish as I haven`t done any edits with the Nanjing Metro in a long time. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 02:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Actually, the subpage thing makes sense. I am confused by the fact that each subpage doesn't contain one navbox. I will have a try and straightening it out. Best wishes, and thanks for putting it together in the first place. It's an asset, and navboxes are not fun to make. So, well done. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Changes made

I've created a comprehensive navbox here: Template:Nanjing Metro. It looks like this:

I hope visitors find this more convenient for the time being. I will swap in this new navbox at the relevant pages. If there are no objections, I will consider this matter....

 Done Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, this problem shouldn't arise in the near future, but once Nanjing Metro greatly expands, it will get to be a pretty big navbox if there arent any hide/show for stations. Thats why Shanghai had separate for lines and stations, and for each station article, only the relevant lines were shown. Because the system is so big, the navbox is huge when fully expanded. This will not be a problem for Nanjing until the very far future. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 02:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Power supply

I assume the power supply is 25 KV AC but I have not managed to find any references for this. Looking at photographs, it seems that, at underground stations, the overhead wires are hidden behind a shield. Biscuittin (talk) 17:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

It is actually 5kV DC and the overhead wires are those track fixed to the roof. I believe they are called "hard suspension" overhead wires. 16 December 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:7B80:126E:55DB:EEF:C7D9:DE0B (talk) 06:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Line S8 concern

I am concerned about the "straight-ahead" inclusion of Line S8 as "a line in the Nanjing Metro network". According to the included network map, Line S8 is completely separated from, and unconnected to, the rest of the network. It may be bundled and operated as part of the Nanjing Metro, but it really can't said to be a part of the network made up of the other four lines, at least not as of 2014. Honestly, I can't think of another "metro" system with a completely disconnected line this way. I personally feel that, because of this, Line S8's stats should be separated out from the combined stats for the other four lines.

Does anyone else have any thoughts or comments on this issue?... --IJBall (talk) 00:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

This is only a temporary measure. By the end of 2014 Line 3 will open and connect S8 with the rest of the network. It is actually quite common in rapidly growing Chinese subway systems to have sections isolated from the network open before they are connected.

For example:

• Shanghai Metro Line 9: isolated line from 2007 to 2008
• Shenzhen Metro Line 3: isolated line from 2010 to 2011
• Beijing Subway Line 9: isolated line from 2010 to 2011
• Beijing Subway Fangshan Line: isolated line from 2009 to 2011
• Tianjin Metro Line 3: isolated section for a few months
• Tianjin Metro Line 9: isolated line from 2004 to 2012
• Dalian Metro Line 8: isolated line from 2013 to 2014
• Kunming Metro Line 6: isolated line from 2012 to 2015
• Hangzhou Metro Line 2: isolated line 2014 to 2016

On a related note, outside china disconnected metros exist permanently. See the Istanbul Metro, M4 is isolated from the rest of the network by the Bosphorus strait. There are currently no plans to connect it with the rest of the network.Terramorphous (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

The S-lines

This article separates the Nanjing Metro into two sub-systems: "suburban" lines (S-lines: S1 and S8) and "urban" lines (1, 2, 3 and 10). It's not necessary. Nanjing Metro doesn't consists of two sub-systems. No one, including Nanjing Metro Corporation, has ever made such "urban lines" vs. suburban lines" distinction. The "S-line" is just a naming convention. In an earlier planning, Line S8 was originally named "Line 11" and S1 was "Airport Line". --MtBell 11:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Pinging @Terramorphous: Care to comment? I am still disturbed by the clear labeling difference between the lines by the operator (clearly the operator is trying to make a distinction...), and that the S1 and S8 lines are explicitly labeled "suburban rail" (the article even describes one of these as an "intercity" rail line), all of which points to these two lines not being true "metro" lines, but at best being something more akin to RER-type lines... (Further, Line S8's use of 4-car trainsets also gets dangerously close to a "light metro"-like line as well). Why label the lines differently, if they are truly "part" of the metro system? --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Well the S series lines can't be RER type lines as they don't parallel any mainline railways or have compatible rolling stock. Nor do they have track sharing or grade crossings. Like I said before they are like Beijing with a different naming scheme between the urban core lines and the suburban radial lines.Terramorphous (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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