Talk:N+

N+

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Discussion on whether N+ should get its own article. JAF1970 (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose - same exact game, basically a port. It's not different enough to warrant a new article. JAF1970 (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - there are differences in the graphics and from the trailer, there seems to be new levels. These differences should be mentioned in the section. If there is a big enough difference, than it will warrant a new article, but for now, no. 58.111.247.52 (talk) 07:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

It's the same game, just with more levels and slightly updated graphics. What, exactly, would an N+ artice have? JAF1970 (talk) 08:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment: Only if there is enough content to place in an N+ article, and I don't believe there is but I'm not well informed enough to properly oppose. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 09:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The Xbox.com N+ page has all the info you need. And you'll see there's not much there that isn't in the main article. JAF1970 (talk) 00:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

There are other sources. IGN and GameSpot have both reviewed it, for example. Oren0 (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support as original placer of template. This game has been released as an Xbox Live Arcade Game with completely different levels, graphics, etc. from the Flash version. The fact that Uno and Texas Hold 'em exist didn't stop Uno (Xbox Live Arcade game) and Texas Hold 'em (Xbox Live Arcade game) from having articles. Oren0 (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment Bloat up N+ first or demonstrate a prototype and we have an article and I'll throw in a conditional support on the condition that a good prototype for N+ is demonstrated that is not a dumb little stub that could rest here. Klichka (talk) 02:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment I agree with Klichka and will support if we can see what such article would look like. Mrmoocow (talk) 07:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment UNO is unique in that it has crossplatform play with the PC, has detailed downloadable content with new gameplay (ie. new cards). And there's no way you could put an XBLA section in the Texas Hold'em article since it's about the card game, not any actual computer/video game. JAF1970 (talk) 03:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Uno has crossplatform play? That's news to me! xenocidic (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• Weak support, mostly because N+ seems to need two infoboxes—the XBLA version is independent, in terms of developer and publisher, from the handheld ones. — maestrosync ^talk — 11:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Comment Improve the section on N+ and then, when it has enough info, split if necessary. Vicco Lizcano (talk) 15:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC) ^{Hey! Listen!)}

Expanded Comment/Support just played the XBLA demo version last weekend, I agree they're different games, it has different graphics, different levels, a different interface, etc. However, I still think you need to elaborate on the section of the game first, after it grows, it'll be a necessity and not a matter of discussion if it merits a new article or not.Vicco Lizcano (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC) ^{(Hey! Listen!)}

Comment Yes this section does need improvement, and can deffenitly be made into its own article. I have played both games for quite some time now and they are very different. N+ contians a slew of new enemies, traps, tiles, a new level editor with more user friendly AI, along with new options, 4 player multiplayer (with 4 different play modes) a lobby system, online play, level sharing, all new levels, better graphics and it was developed by a different company. The game is the sequel to N, not an extension. It needs an article discussing all this. 007craft (talk) 20:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Also keep in mind that the DS/PSP version will also be different from the 360 one, and use its own set of maps, and will possibly differ about as much from the 360 version of N+ as from the original (N), but these are just speculations. 80.216.218.19 (talk) 02:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support. The N+ article could also have some treatment of the controversy arising from the developers comments as to the Xbox Live Arcade as a service. http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/03/21/n-creators-vent-about-microsoft-and-xbla/ and http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/03/24/n-creators-stand-behind-their-anti-xbla-rant/ xenocidic (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support: there simply isn't enough you can reasonably cram into one section for this article. It should get it's own article, have a section on the flash version, and links. (I think.) Thanks! Rbpolsen♦☺♦ Talk to me! 03:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Support - Basically a sequel, N+ has a different development team (with only level design done by the original creators), totally different (High-Definition) graphics, its own set of levels, with only a few in common with the original N. I don't see why it shouldn't have its own article. Though I think the article should be for all of the commercially realeased versions - that is, the XBox, DS, and PSP versions. Dikastis 12:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• Support: People have already mentioned the big changes in gameplay especially multiplayer modes. If Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix gets a new article it makes sense that N+ would as well. Lot49a (talk) 18:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• Support. There doesn't seem to be a problem making new articles for other games in a series. It's another game -> it gets another article. --Areldyb ^{(talk - sign)} 23:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
• Comment: Is anyone actually going to take any action here? JMalky (talk) 12:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

A consensus was reached to create an individual article for N+. -- Comandante {Talk} 21:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This Article Needs to be expanded its becoming very popular -Bazil —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.61.146 (talk) 13:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Box

Posted the DS box shot, sine it's best to have a box cover than just a logo. (Originally posted the PSP box, but it's too long.)That's what she said JAF1970 (talk) 16:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

the Link to the original

I changed the name on the link to the original to simply "N" because the game is not named "N: The way of the ninja"24.223.154.154 (talk) 22:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Reception

Why does the reception section only cover the Xbox 360 Arcade version and not the portable versions? I would fix it myself, but I'm not sure how to represent the different scores of each platform's unique version of the game. Soren121 (talk) 13:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Servers for PSP and DS

Are there any plans for them to return? Welcome to the Darksyde! (talk)

Reviving the XBLA N+ Debate

This article is mainly about the PSP & DS versions. I was wanting to make another separate article for the xbox 360 port. What I was thinking is that this article one can be renamed N+ (Ds & PSP) and the Xbox 360 one can be named N+ (Xbox 360). Or you could at least make a sub-section about the xbox 360 port, as it is totally separate compared to portable versions.Thdegy (talk) 20:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Thdegy

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1001beforeyoudie doesn't qualify as an WP:RS

@Shaddim: 1001beforeyoudie.com doesn't qualify as an WP:RS, if you think that isn't true, you are more than welcome to take it to WP:RSN, but I suggest you actually read WP:RS first. {{u|zchrykng}} {T|C} 15:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

read about sourcing. Non-controversial facts , like it is in this notable book, are satisfied with primary sources. Shaddim (talk) 16:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

RS aside it's not at all WP:SIGNIFICANT as it's literally a list of 1001 video games, which is pretty meaningless. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

it is an award to be named among a tiny subsets of all games as being special and playworthy. If you want to challenge the notability of this book, you bark on the wron tree, challene it there.Shaddim (talk) 17:08, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Shaddim I never challenged the notability of it, stop assuming things. I challenged the significance of an award that is handed out like candy. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:12, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

you are the one who hand out opinions and decisions on wikopeda like "candy", stop hounding me and being involved needlessly in my topics. 1001 of hundred thousands of games released (<1%) is not like candy. Shaddim (talk) 08:30, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Shaddim you might want to review WP:OWN and WP:AGF, as your previous comment is at least close to the line on both counts, in my opinion. (Oh and if you wouldn't mind slowing down and spell checking your comments, it would be appreciated) {{u|zchrykng}} {T|C} 18:16, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

ChrissyMad is the one who hounds me now on multiple topics, where she is not knowledgeable about & makes unfounded fast-shoots, like calling the book "handing out like candy" while being part of 1% of all games IS an achievement. I should be able to call her out for her non-nonsensical crap. Shaddim (talk) 18:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)