Talk:Myra MacDonald

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The result was: promoted by TJMSmith (talk02:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Myra MacDonald, whose career as a foreign correspondent for Reuters spanned virtually three decades, and who covered South Asia for a long time, wrote three books on India and Pakistan? Source: see the article..

Created by MBlaze Lightning (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC).Reply

  •   This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues, although Earwig did not like the long quote. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Cwmhiraeth, glad to see you still around! MBlaze Lightning (talk) 14:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Haidar source

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Given how heavily this source is used in the article, I am quite surprised its criticism of the book it's reviewing aren't mentioned at all. Further, I do not see where the source has anything to say about how "Pakistan's unrelenting sponsorship of terrorism" degraded it's economy or democracy. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your comment, Vanamonde. I can write about the lapses that Haider has enumerated in her article. However, I have a few things to say which I would like you to take note of, for they pertain to your concerns. First, I have used this aforesaid reference primarily for writing statements of facts about the subject's book. Second, most importantly, in the article, Haider has justaposed those points with contrasting lines. For example, while she finds it worthwhile to point out "some lapses" in the argumentation of the subject, before giving her own commentary, she justaposes it with "lapses...that are unfortunately common to other accounts of India-Pakistan relations, both western and Indian." Such juxtaposition can put anyone in dilemma, for it poses the problem whether or not the information would be due in the article about the author, in a sub-section concerning the book, which just gives a brief overview of it.
As for the terrorism bit, I had added the source recently for the sole purpose of complementing the Foreign Affairs reference, which has that information, for supporting the continued terror war phrase. At the outset, Haider talks about the "war" being played "with every version in the book: overt, covert, using Army regulars, and with proxies, as well as the diplomatic, economic and above all, the moral war." So the context is obviously there. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
I'd say that commentary about the book is due, but that's a minor point. Where does the foreign affairs source say that the sponsorship of terrorism led to a decline in Pakistan's economy? The source attributes that to the obsession with India, which is described as having multiple facets. Furthermore, the language you have used ("unrelenting sponsorship") is far stronger than either cited source. Remove the OR, please, and moderate the language in question. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Okay. I understand. I've made the requisite changes, and also added a couple paragraphs, summarizing what Haider wrote about the lapses. I trust that the foregoing has addressed your concerns adequately. That said, feel free to take a look again, and if you discover any issues, let me know. Thanks. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 14:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Much better. I have made minor copy-edits. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:37, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply