Talk:Luke French

Lucas/Luke

From what I can tell he was referred to as Lucas during his minor league days but most media outlets refer to him as Luke now:

• b-r.com
• espn.com
• yahoo.com

If you do the google test, there are 350 news hits for "Luke" and 50 for "Lucas" (linking to a news query with quotes doesn't work). I don't think mlb.com is the end-all source for a person's name, especially where there are so many other sources saying different. A normal google web test yields 9600 "Luke" hits and 7100 "Lucas" hits. — X96lee15 (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

And attending the game today, he was referred to as "Luke". I'm going to move the page back to Luke French (baseball) unless there are any other objections. — X96lee15 (talk) 02:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be switched back to Lucas French because the Tigers had him down as Lucas and the Mariners have him down as Lucas. see here. Michael (talk) 06:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

That may be, but he was always "Luke" during media broadcasts, both on TV and the radio. Hrmm. Mackensen (talk) 11:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

This is an interesting case -- it's nearly 50-50 on being referred to as Luke v. Lucas. I don't know the right way to go (although I have a lot less interest in the subject than I did a week ago (unless this guy turns out to be John Smoltz)). — X96lee15 (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

First of all, X96lee15, I'm not sure what last comment was all about and what it had to do with this discussion. Second of all, I was watching the Fantasy Baseball update on ESPNEWS where they talk about which pitcher you should start and which pitcher you shouldn't start, and they refered to him as Luke, but you see that a lot, a players fullname on the roster and then the media calls the player by the nickname or whatever it is, but I still think Lucas French is the correct title for this page. – Michael (talk) 00:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The google test shows 98,000 results for "Lucas" and 243,000 for "Luke". I'm thinking he's more commonly referred to as "Luke" and that should be the name of the article. And my comment above can be summed up as: Luke French : John Smoltz :: Jarrod Washburn : Doyle Alexander. — X96lee15 (talk) 02:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, but if you think the page should be moved, I'd prefer starting an RM discussion. – Michael (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Luke French/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 11:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Am conducting this review as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 11:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "He batted and threw left-handed." - seems to be out of place for the lead
• "where he was a Louisville Slugger Preseason High School All-American his senior year." - during or in should be added before the words "All-American" and "his"
• "He picked up his first win on July 9," - took or collected

Early life

• "Luke was born to Greg and Colleen French September 13, 1985," - French on September 13,
• Also, another source is needed to verify French's birth date because MLive.com doesn't mention it
• "listing Ken Griffey Jr., Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, and Jay Buhner among his favorite players." - Alex Rodriguez is not mentioned by MLS.com as a player French rooted for
• "After his freshman year, he quit football to focus more on baseball;" - how about stopped playing football for variety and formality?

Detroit Tigers

• "while he tied Brad Bergesen and Magee for the lead with three complete games, tied four other starters for second with 11 losses (behind Magee's 13), and tied Kyle Aselton for fifth with 60 walks allowed." - try not to use the word "tied" too frequently in the same sentence
• "He was very excited about the chance to pitch in the major leagues" - He said he was
• "Luke French,mlive.com, May 16, 2009" - a space is needed between "French" and the first comma
• Wikilink no-decision to help non-Baseball experts
• "who would go on to win the American League (AL) Cy Young Award in 2009" - the abbreviations in parentheses are unneeded since they are not mentioned anywhere else in the article
  • AL is mentioned in the very next section--AL Central Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Seattle Mariners

• "the product of a" - result
• Wikilink bullpen to help those unfamiliar with sports
• "could get a look at Brandon Morrow in the starting rotation." - allow Brandon Morrow to play in the starting rotation.
• "He was briefly recalled July 9,"- recalled on July 9,
• Wikilink home run
• "but Seattle scored two runs to beat Minnesota 2–1." - defeat
• "French glumly reviewed his performance:" - performance, saying:
• "his 11 wins with six others for fifth in the league." - think something is missing from this sentence
• Wikilink winning percentage
• Wikilink spring training
• "French was designated for assignment by the Mariners to make room for Wily Mo Peña on the team's 40-man roster." - allow Wily Mo Peña onto the team's 40-player roster.
  • Linked 40-man roster; I've never heard it referred to as 40-player roster. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Minnesota Twins organization

• "On November 2, he became a free agent." - Baseball-Reference states it was November 3 not November 2
  • Typo, sorry! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Further biography

• "Before he reached the major leagues" - league
  • I linked it for clarification. In baseball, it's always referred to as major leagues. Major League Baseball is composed of the American League and the National League. They used to be more independent of each other than they are now, but traditionally, MLB is still referred to as the major leagues, not the major league. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
• "who'd been a fan of his growing up," - who was

References

• References 16, 27, 28, 29, 30 are missing Associated Press in the news agency field

Will put the review on hold to allow the reviewer to address/respond to the queries raised above. MWright96 (talk) 11:58, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• @Sanfranciscogiants17: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 16:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)