Talk:Liverpool James Street railway station

Move?

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The result of the proposal was done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

• James Street railway station (England) → Liverpool James Street railway station — Disambiguation — Simply south (talk) 19:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
• The move would be to James Street railway station (Liverpool). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:44, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
  • No, it is also its official name. For example, see National Rail Simply south (talk) 22:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

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Shunting Tunnel

Part of the original tunnel between Liverpool Central and James Street was used by the new Northern Line. The remaining part of that tunnel which is used by neither the Wirral Line nor Northern Lines was retained, to provide a connection between the two for moving empty stock between the main EMU depots at Birkenhead North and Kirkdale. Of the original two platforms at James Street, only the westbound remains in regular use.

This shunting tunnel from James St to Central station may be re-used for passengers.

Wrexham in North Wales have been wanting to be on Merseyrail for access to Liverpool and John Lennon airport. This entails electrification from Bidston to Wrexham line. Electrification was costed for cheaper overhead wires, entailing duel pick up trains to run on Merseyrail.

This enables Wirral and North Wales trains running into James St, onto Central and out on onto the Northern Line to Liverpool South Parkway and hopefully, eventually a station at John Lennon airport.

This will give non-stop direct access to Liverpool centre, Liverpool south docks and the arena when St James' station is opened, and onto South Parkway, for people from Chester, Wrexham, New Brighton and West Kirkby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterspaces (talk • contribs) 17:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Station layout - platform numbering

Resolved

 – Redrose64 (talk) 15:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Please could somebody go to the station and clarify the platform numbering? I agree that platform 2 is the seldom-used platform for trains reversing without passing around the loop. The problem is a discrepancy between the existing text and the the ref which I've cited for Mann Island Junction:

• The text states "Platform 1 by trains westbound to the Wirral and Platform 3 by trains eastbound towards Liverpool"
• the ref I've cited clearly shows platform 1 for Moorfields/Lime Street/Central and plat 3 for Birkenhead - in both its first and second editions.

So, the relative positions of 1 & 3 need checking - an examination of the "departures" indicator might suffice. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Any chance you could scan in this info? As you are referencing what appears to be a book (thus no actual copy for us to see), I wouldn't go as far as to say it "clearly shows" the platform arrangements. That said, I am inclined to agree that you are correct, and some google searches of my own seem to also suggest platform 1 is the separate loop-line platform, not the one within the original station. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, no scanner - and out of work, so no chance of (a) using the firm's scanner or (b) buying one. Yes, it's a book. If your public library can't get 2nd edition, try 1st edition ISBN 0-900609-74-5 - it's black-and-white rather than colour, but the essential features of the diagram are the same. I could photograph them both and send the JPEGs - but I have absolutely no idea how to upload a photo, nor how to attach a file. Ideally, I'd like somebody to visit the station and confirm; it'll be some time before I can afford trips to Liverpool again - I live in Didcot, 171 miles away. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Have a look at

and

. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitchen Knife (talk • contribs) 17:38, 20 October 2009

Thanks for that. Okeydokey, it's clear from those photos that platform 1 is for the Liverpool loop, and platform 3 is for Birkenhead and stations beyond. So, the original article text has them transposed, and my book source is correct. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Water St entrance tunnel

The tunnel does NOT access the platforms. They are to deep. The tunnel accesses the ticket concourse at the top of the lifts.188.222.175.12 (talk) 13:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

NAMING POSITION AND ACCESS

As a native of the City and knowing the area very well I am intrigued as to why the Station has never:- 1. been renamed as 'Pier Head' especially as this is the closest Staiton to it and that there has been so much redevelopment near Albert and King's Docks as well as the new Museum of Liverpool Life, Mann Island etc; and 2. been connected to the other side of the main road near Mann Island with a pedestrian entrance. The latter would allow passengers to go into the Station from the Pier Head without crossing the main dock road. ??? Tony S 88.108.226.54 (talk) 18:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Updating this nine years later! Another point - 'James Street' is of very minor significance as a street, it runs from Derby Square to Wapping - Dock Road,it is actually shorter than the connecting pedestrian tunnel between the station and Water Street exit at India Buildings! 79.71.167.235 (talk) 13:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Rename to James Street (Liverpool) railway station

This meets WP:COMMONNAME and allows the use of {{rws|James Street|Liverpool}}: James Street for linking. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Claims of oldest, first lift accessed

This station was pre-dated by London's Tower Subway, so the above claims are clearly not correct. Mauls (talk) 22:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC) Mauls (talk) 22:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)