Talk:List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: F

Judy Garland

Garland, to my knowledge, was not bisexual. Accounts of her being so were gathered by trashy biographies (Gerald Clarke's "Get Happy", David Shipman's "Secret Life of an American Legend"), and are mostly untrue. If she was (which is highly unlikely), it was mostly on a bi-curious level (the above authors alledge Garland had affairs with Katharine Hepburn, Ethel Merman, Kay Thompson, and MGM intern Betty Asher). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.217.4 (talk) 13:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC) you should add valentino garavani, the fashion designer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.239.242.201 (talk) 16:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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False entry on Jodie Foster

There are no reliable sources to indicate that Jodie Foster is either bi- or homosexual. The only, and I mean ONLY, source indicating so is the sleazy book her brother published, rich in detail about all sorts of sordid sex practices in the family. According to the brother, both Jodie and her mother are lesbians, and Jodie was allegedly named after her mother's female lover. There is not one single source, not even a single witness, that has backed up this story. Her brother simply wrote a trashy novel to make a buck, something even regular journalists do, but one should have the smarts to take it all with a grain of salt, and in this case, with a ton of salt. Books that do not publish sources so that their claims can be investigated are called 'fiction'. Because this hysteria got so out of hand, the fact that she thanked a lesbian friend in an acceptance speech was seen as a sign of her coming out of the closet. Oh, please! It was just a formal acknowledgement to a friend, and even if there were a secret lesbian affair going on, it remains purely speculative.

Whoever made this list of famous gay, lesbian, and bisexual people is far too eager to add entries, without doing proper research. Jodie Foster has only relationships with men as far as we know, and until either she comes out of the closet publically and explicitly, or we find pictures of her literally having sex with another woman (sorry, kisses and hugs don't count), it is pure gossip admitted as fact when we include her, and others like her, in such a list. Spare us all your pseudo-scientific "gaydar" intuition, and stick to the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.72.44 (talk) 20:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

This list was made by thousands of edits by anonymous users just like you. The Foster addition was made by an anonymous IP [2]. I removed Foster's name because you are correct that she has not stated without exception what her sexual orientation is. Otherwise, tone down your comments, please. If you find something that is inaccurate, just fix it. Rants on talk pages are unnecessary. --Moni3 (talk) 20:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I know this is years later, but does her speech at the 70th Golden Globes count: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/13/jodie-foster-gay-golden-globes_n_2469439.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices>  ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ligress (talk • contribs) 17:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

She is married to a woman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.125.135.166 (talk) 20:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Nathaniel Flatt

Member of boy band V Factory is openly gay http://www.towleroad.com/2009/07/boy-bands-are-successful-because-theyre-formulaic-giving-fans-the-archetypes-they-wantyouve-got-the-cute-one-the-dan.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.215.162 (talk) 11:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Jean Guidoni

He's a French singer, born in May 1952 who is openly gay: http://www.actualite-gay.com/gpagch26.htm or http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Guidoni —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amidabutsu (talk • contribs) 16:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 131.156.137.14, 5 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} |- | Vincent Flanders | b. 1954 | American | Author and Web Designer | L |-

Not done: The article of the subject must be written first in order to establish notability. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 06:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Please restore the edit of 4/14/2009 from the unintelligible "defined the term "sexual orientation" in div in the earli pays ergent ways." to "defined the term "sexual orientation" in divergent ways."

Is this worded the same way in other related alphabetical pages?

96.251.199.201 (talk) 01:30, 28 March 2011 (UTC)billybob

207.63.16.46 (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Done Thanks for catching that--probably a lot of people skim right over the opening sentences. I'll glance at some of the other lists and see if the vandalism occurred there as well. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request fromShinytime, 20 September 2011

Please add Michael Goff. See the article in Wikipedia with reliable sourcing, Founder of Out magazine, writer at Outweek and currently partners in Towleroad the top gay news site online. numerous sources including: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/07/business/the-media-business-out-magazine-s-national-reach.html http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3065/is_n15_v22/ai_14470849 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,975882,00.html http://mycrains.crainsnewyork.com/40under40/profiles/1995/1464 Shinytime (talk) 10:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 11:23, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Alec Guinness

Alec Guinness should not be on the list, sorry. Despite the allegations of Guinness being arrested in a men's room and giving the name Herbert Pocket that was made by some supposed biographer, that episode never happened. At least NOT with Guinness! John Gielgud was arrested for lewd behavior in a men's room. The whole fairy tale is detailed in the authorized biography by Piers Paul Read. Read who speculated what Guinness' attractions might have been and gave his OPINION, could find no definite proof. Neither Guinness, his wife or his son ever said that he was bisexual. So that pretty much disqualfies him from a list of "Confirmed" whatevers. Dwain (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

According to the cited source, the BBC, this is based on 3 biographies. You need to provide a source as good or better than the BBC that states this fact has been wrongly published. --Moni3 (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

This is why Wikipedia is full of excrement. The article is incorrect. Unless you have read the biographies to see that the article contains error how can you use this as proof? The biographer Piers Paul Read proves that the whole arrest story is fallacy in his Alec Guinness biography. There is no police record which backs up anyone named Herbert Pocket was arrested and Read even names the socialite who started spreading the rumor. Alec Guinness never asserted he was bisexual to the media, nor did he do so in his diaries, and no close family member is known to have released this information. In fact, there is more evidence that Barack Obama is homosexual or bi-sexual as we have the assertion of one of his flings Lawrence Sinclair who makes the assertion that he had sex with Obama in his book Barack Obama and Larry Sinclair [http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878] as well as what Kevin DuJan reported here concerning Obama's boyfriends and Chicago bath house exploits. [3] So following your logic we should add Barack Obama to the list as "confirmed!" Dwain (talk) 17:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Ha! Your charm is seductive.

At any rate, if you would like to insert Obama's name into this list and then assert in his article that he is other than straight with sources like HillBuzz--impeccable, no doubt--or a book by some crackpot, feel free to pursue that. However, for this list, the BBC pretty much declares Guinness' sexuality in the title of its article, summarizing three biographies about him and Gielgud. Piers Paul Read, by the way, does not declare the rumor to be untrue. In fact, he explores its origins, mentioning that Guinness was careful to control the way he was perceived in the media. The BBC article cites Read's biography, as well as Sheridan Morley's biography of Gielgud, which does say that Guinness was arrested in Liverpool. (p. 272)

A book review for Read: By turns wry and pensive, dignified and disheveled, Alec Guinness was a consummate stage and film actor. And according to Read's exhaustive new authorized biography, it now emerges that, like many of us, he was often sexually attracted to beautiful young men. The author liberally peppers his 624 pages with such tasteful inferences as: "It seems reasonable to deduce [from diary entries] that Alec was, to say the least, alert to the possibility of fleeting sexual relations with anonymous men." Read makes the hardly unusual case that Guinness's Catholicism, marriage, family life, and career concerns combined to force him to remain closeted. Surprised? Well, as Boyd McDonald once wrote, "Only real men get married and have children--like Oscar Wilde." (Steele, Tom Source: Out; Jul2005, Vol. 14 Issue 1, p32-32, 1/6p)

So if your perception is that Read dispels the rumors with authority, that perception seems to be incorrect. And your issue seems to be with Guinness' biographers, the BBC, and perhaps Guinness himself. Not with Wikipedia. --Moni3 (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

With all your blather, you have not stated anything that "confirms" anything. Opinion is not confirmation. No arrest record for Alec Guinness has ever been found. No arrest record for "Herbert Pocket" has ever been found. Rumors, stories, speculation is not proof of anything. Just because some article is written trying to make a claim using other people's opinions does not make something fact or dare I say "confirmed." There is an apparent desire for Obi Wan to be an old homosexual, but that desire is not confirmation. Fake stories is not "confirmation!" Maybe Sir Alec should be on a list such as "People Suspected of Being Homosexual and/or Bisexual" or maybe "People We Want to Be Homosexual or Bisexual" but he should not be on a list that claims to JUST be listing confirmed personages. That's simply a fact. And the fact that Wikipedia and so many of its biased editors deliberately do things like this and try to parse words and accept one article as authoritative and dismiss others because they aren't authoritative shows that agenda comes before facts. Dwain (talk) 22:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Your argument is no longer here. It's at WP:Reliable Sources or WP:Verifiability. --Moni3 (talk) 23:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

King Gustav V of Sweden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_V_of_Sweden is well-known to have been gay. See "The Haijby affair" towards the end of the article. Or is calling it "allegations" and "controversy" because he was royal not enough to meet reference criteria? Lorielle (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Lorielle! "Alleged" homosexuality doesn't qualify for this list. Thanks for the suggestion, though! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

James Franco

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2011/01/james-franco-gay.html--68.51.87.188 (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Nope. Per the fact that he said maybe he's just gay, it's not at all clear that he intended the comment as an explicit statement of his own sexuality rather than just a lighthearted joke. Bearcat (talk) 23:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Lynn Fontanne

http://www.glbtq.com/arts/lunt_fontanne.html--68.51.87.188 (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

 Not done The URL doesn't lead to a page which mentions Lynn Fontanne at all, but merely to a very generalized topic index. Any other sources? Bearcat (talk) 22:14, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 January 2013

Please add Jodie Foster in the list too. Ref: http://www.afterellen.com/content/2013/01/jodie-foster-comes-out-rambling-raw-speech-golden-globes Farahqureshi (talk) 20:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Please see discussion at Talk:Jodie Foster (and contribute to it if you like). Rivertorch (talk) 05:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 May 2013

| Jodie Foster | b. 1962 | American | Actress | L Ryannijakowski01 (talk) 06:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. smtchahal^talk 07:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Please note that the consensus at Talk:Jodie Foster strongly suggests that this edit request should not be accepted regardless of how it is phrased. Rivertorch (talk) 07:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 August 2013

<!Beatrice 'Gigi' Fernandez>

<!added to 'F' list - supporting data in Wickipaedia> 2.29.11.95 (talk) 23:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done for now:. If this person has a Wikipedia article, I can't find it. Each entry added to this list needs to have an article and a reliable source. Rivertorch (talk) 06:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

| Jodie Foster | b. 1962 | American | actress, film director, and producer | Ryannijakowski01 (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.. See discussion at Talk:Jodie Foster. Rivertorch (talk) 05:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2017

Add Erica L. Frost to the list of known bisexual people. American (New York, NY), born 1986. Hip-hop Performer, film producer, screenwriter, actress, activist classified Bisexual and revealed in her own twitter page @LFrostNY - credited in short film 'conclusion' as actress, screenwriter, producer. BlackLivesMatter activist.

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Not done for now: There should be an individual Wikipedia article and a reliable source for the entry to be added to the list. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 10:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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