Talk:Linh Nga

Cite check

I've only checked a few of the source citations, but almost none of them supported the statements they were placed next to. We had 12 citations supporting "news anchor". Only one of them even mentioned news reporting, and it didn't support news anchor as a primary role. We had 7 citations for 9669 Films. Two of these were to Facebook, and only one of the others even mentioned 9669 Films (one mentioned Lina Films, which is apparently the same thing). So I think we need to check every statement in this article against sources. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Also, what's up with all the fake volume and page numbers? I'm tempted to just remove them all. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Many of the year fields are wrong too, but some are correct. I'm tempted to remove those too. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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• Linh Nga 9669.jpg

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A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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• Film director Linh Nga Nguyen.JPG

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More failed verification

Of the four "awards" listed only one checks out as supported by its references. The others are not even mentioned in the linked articles. I don't speak Vietnamese but Google Translate does a good job and I'm confident that it really isn't in those sources. The more I look at this the less substantial it seems. I am also wondering if the Filmography is inflated. I have tagged the article for questionable notability. BTW, I also put What's the Good of Being Good? (film) up for deletion (PROD) as that turns out to only be an 11 minute short film with no sign of notability. If anybody thinks that incorrect or premature then please feel free to take the tag off that and discuss. --DanielRigal (talk) 20:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

It appears that several of the contributors to this article have turned out to actually be socks that are now blocked. As you may notice I have also PC protected this article to prevent further disruption. It seems like some puffery has been going on here, I think you can feel free to remove anything you can’t verify. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Most of the refs seem to be more linkspam than actual sources. I had earlier removed a bunch of bogus volume numbers and years, and have now removed all the access dates, which seem to have been just made up. One or two of the refs actually support the material, but many of them do not. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:41, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion

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• Linh Nga & Family.jpg (discussion)
• Linh Nga (Lina Linh Nga) & Thuyet Tran (Thuyet Buon Vua).jpg (discussion)
• Linh-Nga Director.jpg (discussion)

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The artist is notable

According to the links I found in the articles (which citations has been mass deleted by some users?? I saw the user name DanielRigal and Kendall-K1 were edited the article and its related pages in the last few days repeatedly. That's strange) and did a research, I think the artist is notable. She is the CEO and Founder of 9669Films,LLC. The company is actived. The person is having done writing, directing, acting,modeling for decades, won award for TV Best Series for Xuoi nguoc duong tran at the Vietnamese International Film Festival. She is also representing cosmetic products, DVDs like movies and music, released DVDs. I checked link sources and found articles wrote about her. They're all biggest magazines and online newspaper of Vietnam (vnexpress.net), and some trustful online magazines in the usa (voyagela.com). Giomuathu (talk) 02:56, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I'll tell you what is "strange". We uncovered a group of sockpuppet accounts spamming this and related articles for promotional purposes. They got blocked for that because systematically abusing the resources of a charitable organisation just to get free advertising is not only against the rules here it is disgusting and immoral behaviour.

Now I'm sure that you would not condone such activities so let me answer the rest of your question:

Not all of the things you mention automatically confer notability. Lots of people start a company and do a bit of media work without becoming notable enough for an article. If you speak the language maybe you can help improve the situation here? We need to prove that the 4 awards listed are genuine. So far only one (the one you mentioned) seems to check out. Also, details of the DVD you mentioned releases might be helpful.

The problem here is that this article has been overrun with spamming sockpuppets for so long that it is very hard to know how much of it is spam and how much of it is real. If we look at the claims made, and then check the references, it seems that sometimes the "reference" doesn't say anything about what is being claimed. That was dishonest work by the spammer(s) to try to fool us into thinking that the content was referenced when it wasn't. This was not only dishonest. It was very stupid. Now that we have realised that there is a problem, it has made us question everything about the article that is not well referenced.

Good references will help to make the difference clear. If you can help find genuine, good references and add them then please do so. However please be careful to only use reliable sources. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

There's evidences that you and Kendall-K1 repeatedly edited the 3 pages related to Linh Nga. Why??? And you recently proposed numerous deletion for the 3 pages, include all of the pictures related to the pages. And why you and Kendall-K1 are always editing the 3 pages together, like a team work. Isn't that strange enough? Giomuathu (talk • contribs) 03:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Because we are trying to stop spamming freeloaders from using Wikipedia to get free advertising. Is that clear? If people want advertsing they have to pay for it, but not on Wikipedia because there are no adverts on Wikipedia. This is an encyclopaedia! --DanielRigal (talk) 22:59, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

No, that is neither strange not unusual, Giomuathu. Please assume good faith that these editors are trying to protect and improve the encyclopedia. Any editor here can edit any article for any reason or motivation, as long as their edits comply with our policies and guidelines. DanielRigal helpfully identified several problems with the article. You failed to discuss these problems. My suggestion is that you help improve the article instead of complaining about editors who are trying to maintain quality control. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:03, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Where do you go to report new socks of a blocked user? Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

It is the same as if you were reporting them for the first time. If you don't use WP:Twinkle (which provides a special menu for reporting user problems) then go to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations, open the "How to open an investigation" box and give the name of the sockmaster first. That said, I don't think we have to worry too much about this one. He has already made an SPI against both of us and that is very likely to WP:Boomerang on him. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

AfD of What's the Good of Being Good?

For anybody interested, there is an AfD of What's the Good of Being Good? (film) here:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What's the Good of Being Good? (film).

--DanielRigal (talk) 23:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

More images found

I have found a whole Commons category containing additional images here: [1]. I have not looked in detail yet but they are likely to be dubious and there may be additional socks among the uploaders. --DanielRigal (talk) 01:18, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

And the more I look, the more I find. I'm not sure what the inclusion criteria are on Wikiquote but this is probably not what they have in mind: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Linh_Nga . --DanielRigal (talk) 01:38, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Referenced Sources

There was a wee bit of promotion in the article, which I've removed in the form of about a dozen and a half references, that are a combination of dud sources to about us pages, social media cites, interviews, videos seeking cast positions, and dead links. It is cleaner. I think the subject is notable. scope_creep (talk) 09:21, 4 November 2018 (UTC)