Talk:The Lady of the Camellias

Article needs to be rewritten

The bulk of the current article is not about the book, but about the adaptations. The regular sections apply: introduction, characters, synopsis, adaptations...

Also, that ridiculous synopsis should be replaced as soon as possible.

Almost Completely Useless Article

I agree with the above comment...Can somebody PLEASE write a brief synopsis of the story! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frglee (talk • contribs) 19:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Amen. A story about a book, with no discussion of the plot? This reads like a fan-zine article, being all about the ripples, and not the stone that actually landed in the pond. I'd write something, but I've never read the book.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Supposed inspirations

What is the source for the (highly implausible) statement that the play is an inspiration for the films Pretty Woman and Moulin Rouge?

For 'Moulin Rouge!': The love between a writer and a courtisane, set in Paris and she dies in the end because of cholera. Reason enough I think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.131.149.222 (talk) 23:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The article should have a citation demonstrating that the novel/play inspired the films. Ketone16 (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia itself states that Moulin Rouge was based upon la Traviata, which was based directly off of this book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulin_Rouge! The story in Moulin Rouge is about 90% true to Camille except that the obstacle in Moulin Rouge is not the father, he was cut off from the film but was meant to be included, there are several cut scenes with him from the original script, and one song was cut called "Father and Son" because Baz Luhrmann was unable to aquire the rights to it, the character of "The Duke" was created instead and he takes up most of the father's story including threatening Satine if she refuses to cooperate (source: 2-disc DVD commentary and Music Featurette, Baz himself confirms that he was able to acquire all of the songs he requested except for Father and Son by Cat Stevens which prompted the revision of the script). The ending is also a bit different since Christian does come back to her, instead leaving her to die all alone like she did in the book, but most of the story up to that point is very much faithful to the book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.192.150.7 (talk) 00:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I disagree that "La dame aux Camilles" is the main inspiration behind "RENT" - the main inspiration behind "RENT" is another story about a consumptive, best known as Puccini's opera "La Boheme". 71.202.102.84 (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree: RENT is La Boheme. It's well-known. 207.237.33.106 (talk) 08:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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See also * section removed

I have removed the "see also" section as it had only a single dead link to "*List of European camellia books", an article that does not exist. 207.237.198.152 (talk) 02:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Synopsis?

Any chance of a synopsis? :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 00:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. :-) Tcnuk (talk) 14:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Thirded. --DrewDC (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Fourth-ed Gmchambless (talk) 07:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Done (by translating the summary contained in the French Wikipedia article).Partnerfrance (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Tudor 1951 ballet

Antony Tudor , under the section Major Works , mentions a 1951 ballet titled Lady of the Camellias . However , this related article page does not mention the Tudor piece ...

This page which would make a convenient internet reference , gives Some detail about Tudor's 1951 ballet ... confirming that it is based on the Dumas fils novel , observing that the accompanying music was selected (mostly) from 3 Verdi's operas (and Sicilian Vespers) , citing a reference Book for the synopsis details , and providing other useful facts , if anyone wishes to compose an entry here .

A brief mention , similar to the 3 current entries under the Ballet section of this article , might read ...

Lady of the Camellias , choreographed by Antony Tudor using selected music of Giuseppe Verdi , was first performed in 1951 by the New York City Ballet .

The editors are welcome to make such changes as they see fit .

Thanks mgt220 a yahoo dot com 70.106.140.142 (talk) 02:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Alfons Mucha - 1896 - La Dame aux Camélias - Sarah Bernhardt.jpg

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Picture of the day

A poster advertising an 1896 play, starring Sarah Bernhardt, based on Alexandre Dumas's 1848 novel The Lady of the Camellias. Bernhardt starred in Paris, London, and several Broadway revivals of the story, as well as a 1911 film directed by André Calmettes and Henri Pouctal. The title role of the tragic courtesan Marguerite Gautier became coveted amongst actresses, and Bernhardt coached Ida Rubinstein in it before her death.

This poster was designed by the Czech Art Nouveau painter Alphonse Mucha. Mucha had signed a six-year contract with Bernhardt in 1895, following the success of his poster for Victorien Sardou's Gismonda, in which Bernhardt starred. Mucha used pale pastel colors and frequently featured beautiful young women in flowing, vaguely Neoclassical robes in his posters; these women were often surrounded by lush flowers which sometimes formed halos behind their heads.Poster: Alphonse Mucha; restoration: Adam Cuerden

Synopsis: "regret what might have been"

It's not possible to regret something that might have been. Regret is only used in regard to things that actually happened. Maybe this part of the synopsis should be rephrased. 2001:982:64C5:1:21D1:CCCB:583C:C3C6 (talk) 11:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Summary section: consumption

In the 'summary and analysis' section the articles says ""consumption", was a 19th-century euphemism for syphilis.". I think this is wrong. Consumption was the term used for tuberculosis. 82.1.16.12 (talk) 11:38, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

The article says "'consumption', was a 19th-century euphemism for syphilis", which is supported by the source cited. It means that they were too proper to talk about people having syphilis, so they called it consumption (aka tuberculosis). —PermStrump(talk) 06:13, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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Lower case on camélias

As a French title this should follow the French orthotypography which is La Dame aux camélias, not La Dame aux Camélias. Kintaro (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree. It ought to be moved to La Dame aux camélias. Unfortunately, that will require a formal request at WP:RM. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:57, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Syphilis, Tuberculosis, and Consumption

A bit currently reads "Duplessis's publicized cause of death, "consumption", was a 19th-century euphemism for tuberculosis, as opposed to the more common meaning of tuberculosis." which is obviously absurd. I can see that it originally read "syphilis", which makes sense, but I'm afraid that I'm not a sophisticated enough Wikipedia user to know how to revert the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdgillen (talk • contribs) 11:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Non-existent film

I've removed a chunk of trivial thespian gossip about an unmade film. If others consider it relevant, do reinstate it. Belle Fast (talk) 07:16, 13 June 2022 (UTC)