Talk:Kevin Vickers

Birthplace

The city of Miramichi, New Brunswick was only established in 1995. Vickers was born in 1956 in Chatham, New Brunswick, which was (at the time) a separate town. Please do not change Chatham to Miramichi. DS (talk) 17:27, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Not a policeman

Mr Vickers is a Sergeant-at-Arms. That is a parliamentary official. He is not a police officer. Occupation should be changed.Royalcourtier (talk) 19:19, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Would it not be accurate to say that he was a police officer for the majority of his career? It is similar to articles about politicians that use the same infobox and list the politician's occupation(s) prior to taking office. I considered putting "Police officer, civil servant", but I'm not sure whether the term "civil servant" is appropriate for an employee of the Parliament of Canada (in contrast to employees of departments, etc). Graham (talk) 21:10, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

"Canadian hero"

Not denigrating Mr Vickers' actions but "Canadian hero" seems to be POV. Hack (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree. It has not even been established in he was entitled to have access to a weapon, or if he acted lawfully. WWGB (talk) 12:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Acted lawfully? Of course he did. Agree for sure that "Canadian hero" is POV language though. Moncrief (talk) 18:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Hard to say that when the leaders of all federal political parties individually identify someone as a "Canadian hero" and the descriptor is widely used in just about every media report that it's "POV". At this point, at least, it's entirely consistent with the sources. Risker (talk) 06:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I would have less difficulty if the description was buried in the article. But to start the article "Kevin Vickers is a Canadian hero ..."? WWGB (talk) 06:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

There's a difference between Wikipedia calling him a hero and others calling him a hero. It wouldn't be an issue if the label was attributed. Hack (talk) 06:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

The only people who might not think him a hero are the terrorists. Universally called a hero. Legacypac (talk) 01:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

I've just been reverted TWICE for inserting that he has been called a hero. That is total BS. Show ANY reliable source that says otherwise. I also note the editor who reverted as no contributions to this discussion. Legacypac (talk) 02:38, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

2014 shootings at Parliament

From the multiple sources I have looked through, it seems that we do not know for sure how many rounds Mr. Vickers fired, and how many hit. I do not believe that we should put how many rounds nor should we assume that he had a 9 mm Browning, unless you have found creditable sources that all agree on one thing. Ribbit it's Toad573 16:23, 25 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toad573 (talk • contribs)

Step-by-step walk through of Kevin Vickers actions, by the National [1]Myopia123 (talk) 21:47, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Firearm

What kind of gun did he use? Juno (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Does it matter? WWGB (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

For the purposes of encyclopedia, if it's reliably sourced, then I don't see any problem with it. Myopia123 (talk) 22:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Similar things are mentioned in similar articles. I'll see if I can find a good source on it. Juno (talk) 16:16, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

For instance, the article already mentions that he used a 9mm, it just doesn't yet mention which 9mm he used. Juno (talk) 16:17, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Per the video of him walking with it, a Smith & Wesson third-gen semi-auto of the same family as the RCMP's standard issue 5946. However, the pistol held by him as well as the other suit-wearing person behind him both have the black rail mount in front of the trigger guard, making them from the TSW series. It could very well be a 5946 TSW, but given that there are quite a few very slightly different models in this family, I don't think we'll get a specific model number without an official word on the matter. Alex T Snow (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

'Tackling' a protester while serving as ambassador

The use of the word 'tackle' was misleading. I recognize that it's the eye-catching word in all of the headlines, but it also left me confused and waiting for something more dramatic to happen when I finally saw footage of the event. I changed the wording to indicate that "Vickers engaged a protester [...] dragging the man to one side...." — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrBlayney (talk • contribs) 02:28, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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