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Cesare? (propose article namechange)

The designer was known professionally as "Joe Colombo". I propose that this article be renamed accordingly.

Please see these references: Museum of Modern Art; Pompidou Center; Vitra Design Museum; and The Metropolitan Museum. Also, Italian Wikipedia has him as Joe Colombo, as do the titles of numerous books about the designer.

Appreciate any thoughts and guidance (I've never attempted to WP:PAGEMOVE an existing article and wouldn't want to make mince of it). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 9 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Joe Colombo (designer). A consensus formed that the name "Cesare" should be removed from the article title, but a consensus also formed that the subject is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Joe Colombo". Two parenthetical disambiguators were proposed, "industrial designer" and "designer". Here, a consensus formed around "designer", which participants noted was more WP:CONCISE while also being WP:CONSISTENT with other industrial designers' disambiguation. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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Joe Cesare Colombo → Joe Colombo – Please see above for brief discussion. Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

• Move to Joe Colombo (industrial designer). The current title is a mix of his name and nickname. But there are already others listed at Joe Colombo (disambiguation) and he is not primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

  He is the top result on Google (and Bing, as that now seems to matter). Also, not sure that "Joe" is a nickname in this case (Italian Wikipedia lists him as "Joe Colombo", as do major museums, etc.). None of the others listed on disambiguation are perfect homonyms. I'm still leaning towards "Joe Colombo". -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose as proposed; Joseph Colombo appears to be the primary topic here, as the topic of that article is referred to as "Joe" in many WP:RS, such as The New Yorker here. I agree with Necrothesp that a disambiguator is a better solution, but I'm not sure whether the disambiguator needs to be "(industrial designer)" or could just be "(designer)", which is also often used for industrial designers in related categories like Category:American industrial designers and Category:British industrial designers. Dekimasuよ! 06:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  I'll of course defer to more experienced editors as to which "Joe" is the primary topic (top Joe). My opinion is clearly that the designer is more culturally relevant than the mobster (and the fact that Google and Bing both list him first seems to confirm this). Regardless, if that's not the preferred solution in this case, then I would vote for the shorter of the two proposed titles: "Joe Colombo (designer)". My opinion is that nobody in the field of art/architecture/design history would refer to him as "Cesare". This is my main point. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.