Talk:Jalapeño

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Acreage in US and Mexico

I would really like to find updates to the acreage and production for the US and Mexico; especially given that California is producing more than New Mexico. Unfortunately other than what I already linked to I have yet to find anything on the subject; In fact even sourcing the prior figure is not something that I have been able to do, I mean plenty of sources some of which should be reliable but it is clear that they are quoting exactly from this article itself, even when they don't reference it.Falconjh (talk) 20:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC) Falconjh

So the prior figure for Mexico was off by over half. 40,000 acres in 1999 (unsourced) vs. 107,000 acres (sourced). Falconjh (talk) 14:36, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

The CN had been there long enough; CARDI back in the early 2000's was attempting to figure out exactly this information via teasing out the prices of Import-Export peppers of various countries after complaining that no one except Mexico actually tracked their figures carefully. Could possibly get figures for New Mexico and maybe California but that isn't US acreage figures at all. Falconjh (talk) 21:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Percentages are ambiguous

Hi User:falconjh!

I read your rfc on the project page and am now reviewing the article. What struck me instantly was that using percentages in complex sentences can be very confusing! You write:

La Costeña (food company) controls about 60% of the world market and, according to company published figures, export 16% of the produced peppers from Mexico, out of the 20% total exported; 98% of which goes to the US.

I think you mean the following:

• Mexico exports 20% of its production;
• La Costeña alone exports 80% of the total exports, so that
• La Costeña exports 16% of the total Mexican production; and
• The US imports 98% of Mexican exports.

I hope it's obvious that "98% of which" is unclear unless there is only one possible reference - a noun or noun phrase occurring earlier in the sentence - for "which". Perhaps less obvious is that "16% ..., out of the 20% ..." may mean either:

• 80% of the 20%, i.e. 0.80 * 0.20, thus 0.16 or 16%; OR
• 16% of the 20%, i.e. 0.16 * 0.20, thus 0.032 or 3.2%.

If I've guessed correctly, how about rewriting along these lines:

La Costeña (food company) controls about 60% of the world market and, according to company published figures, export 16% of the peppers that Mexico produces, an 80% share of the 20% that Mexico exports in total. The US imports 98% of La Costeña's exports.

Does this help? yoyo (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

You have it exactly right, thanks for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconjh (talk • contribs) 02:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Some Notes

• Chile Pepper Institute uses dry mass SHU, everyone else cares about wet mass ~10x difference between the two.
• Need to add in more on the landraces; especially the ones that are the starting breeds for both the F1 hybrids and cultivars.
• Other Information should probably be instead something to do with Culture?
• Thinking of merging in Jalapeño popper, but that may give undue weight to poppers/Armadillo eggs/bites whatever they are called without further work on the culinary section and turning it all into something other than a list.Falconjh (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Chiltepín cultivar and high SHU

This source (table 1) presents several cultivars of Capsicum annuum (jalapeño) with SHUs up to 462,884​ in the text and 483,089 in table 1 for the Chiltepín cultivar. My article edits today reflect the results in the source which likely deserves more discussion in the article. --Zefr (talk) 00:04, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

chiltepin is listed as being Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum the Jalapeño cv. Don Julio is the one listed as being 303,602.5, which is significantly higher than what is otherwise reported. I know that there are measurement differences based on wet and dry weight on other articles and that the differences are often ~10x so that based on what I have otherwise read it would have the Don Julio be at ~30,000 SHU. I am not familiar enough with what the different methodologies there are. Falconjh (talk) 01:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

The chiltepin is a cultivar of capsicum annuum, as is the jalapeno. But the chiltepin is not a type of jalapeno. 2606:6000:6217:2A00:D140:FC14:3355:D30A (talk) 03:26, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

This is the chiltepin. The chiltepin and the jalapeno are both cultivars of C. annuum. But the chiltepin is not a jalapeno. Temtem (talk) 02:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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"Japaleno" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Remove Chile Pepper Institute from lead paragraph

I removed the following sentence from the lead paragraph:

> The Chile Pepper Institute is known for developing colored variations.

This is an extraordinarily specific mention, it seems likely it was added by someone with a specific connection to the place. Even if the "Chile Pepper Institute" is extremely notable, it is just far too specific of a mention to go at the start of the article. (I did a quick glance over the history and surprised to find it's been in the article lead for almost 6 years! Surprising to see it lasted that long.) 80.4.108.48 (talk) 00:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

References

I agree both with the oddity of the sentence and sources, and with their removal. Thanks for checking it out. Zefr (talk) 02:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Carbohydrate

100 g contains 6.50 g of carbohydrate, which includes 4.12 g of sugars and 2.8 g of dietary fiber. 4.12 + 2.8 = 6.92. Someone can't add. Eroica (talk) 12:18, 22 June 2021 (UTC)