Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mexico
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RFC: State flags of MexicoEdit
As stated by State flags of Mexico, only 7 states have an official flag (de jure): Baja California Sur, Durango, Guerrero, Jalisco, Querétaro, Quintana Roo and Tlaxcala. Tamaulipas uses its coat of arms officially as a flag. Baja California Norte and Campeche "shall not [have an] official state flag" as per their constitution. The remaining 22 states* (*Mexico City is not a state but for simplicity of this RFC it will be considered as one) don't have an official flag and they merely use the coat of arms as their de facto flag.
Among the official flags, only 2 are different enough (Jalisco and Tlaxcala); the remaining 5 (+ Tamaulipas) are a repetition of the coat of arms against a white background.
I tried to find some kind of guideline about this everywhere, but there is nothing written. I found this archived discussion with a similar query.
- A: Include the flags in all 32 states, regardless of their legal status.
- B: Include the flags in all the states where it is used de jure and de facto (excludes Baja California Norte and Campeche)
- C: Include them only in all the states where it is used de jure (Baja California Sur, Durango, Guerrero, Jalisco, Querétaro, Quintana Roo and Tlaxcala)
- C1: Same as C, but also includes Tamaulipas.
- D: Include them in Jalisco and Tlaxcala only. The flags are official and different from their coat of arms.
- E: Exclude them from all the state articles as they are repetitions of their own official coat of arms.
- C, at least. These territories are the only ones that accepted to adopt a flag, the remaining 25 can do it but they don't want to, so why should we? Otherwise, E, as repetitive and quasi-decorative, especially in those where it is not official. (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Invited from WT:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology: Anything between B and C1 is fine, depending on context and usefulness, provided it is done consistently - i.e. if you are going to include de facto flags for one state, you need to do it for all in the same situation. Options A and D make personal determinations about flag status and would be proscribed as WP:OR. Option E is factually incorrect in at least two cases, constitutes OR in the case of five states with de jure flags - by law they are not the same as the coat of arms - and is overall antithetical to the purpose of Wikipedia to collect and diseminate verifiable information. VanIsaacWScont 01:56, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- B or C - It seems to me to be discourteous, not to say against the WP rules, to ascribe a flag to a political entity that specifically mentions in its constitution that it does not have a flag. PraiseVivec (talk) 12:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- C or D(Summoned by bot) I echo PraiseVivec's arguments and can see the sense of arguing that the info is only useful when the flag has both legal status and is also distinct from the seal/insignia of the state. But C would be a minimum criteria for inclusion.Pincrete (talk) 06:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- B or C per all those that chose B or C. GeraldWL 03:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Marathons in MexicoEdit
Greetings everyone! I noticed there were very few pages for the marathons in Mexico, but there are quite a few marathons in the nation—some of the are major international athletic events. I created two from pages that existed in Spanish Wikipedia, but there are still quite a few to be created. Two road races of major importance are the Guadalajara Half Marathon and the Guadalajara Marathon, both of which are IAAF-labeled races (and the only North American races still in red in the World Athletics Label Road Races template and pages such as 2018 IAAF Road Race Label Events. There are seven marathons listed (with most in red) on the List of marathon races in North America page. Would anyone be able to comb through some Spanish language sources to find good information on the basics of these races? The winner lists can always come later.
Is 'National Research and Technology Council (Mexico)' the same entity as 'Consejo Nacional de Ciencia y Tecnología (Mexico)'?Edit
If these are the same thing, should their pages be merged? I can't tell if they are the same or if I am just confused. The first is a stub and an orphan, and the second is a very good article with lots of sources, so I would say that the first should be merged into the second, or redirected there - but I am new and don't really know either way. Arlo Winterbaum (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)