Talk:J. Christopher Stevens

Attack planned

The embassy attack may or may not have been spontaneous, this is not the place for debating that. However the statement that "the attackers' use of military-grade weapons (including RPGs) and apparent knowledge of the secret safe house locations led to speculation that the raid was planned" is wrong. Military weapons had fallen into militia and rebel hands in large numbers, so the first premise is simply false: there was and is a huge amount of weapons at large. As for the knowledge of the safe house, there is no evidence that its location was known. The attackers were simply following the Americans as they withdrew through the compound.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I tend to agree. I don't think its encyclopedic to include "speculation" without any indication of who is doing that speculation or citation to a reliable source. That strikes me as original research.GabrielF (talk) 21:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Secretary of State Clinton says you are all wrong!

"Yes, Libya was a different kind of calculation, and we didn't lose a single person," Clinton told MSNBC's Chris Matthews. - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-we-didnt-lose-a-single-person-in-libya-to-topple-gaddafi/article/2585818 http://www.weeklystandard.com/clinton-we-didnt-lose-a-single-person-in-libya/article/2001568 3/15/2015 Ok, so I just got home after watching, "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi," so maybe I am a bit shocked that she said that a few hours ago.207.47.68.121 (talk) 06:17, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Conspiracy theories

There are some notable conspiracy theories surrounding the attacks, such as Stevens' rape and mutilation during the attacks. I think expanding on the death section would serve to silence these nutty voices. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:08, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Vice would say otherwise... and thinks the ambassador was targeted because he was gay.

https://www.vice.com/sv/article/5gavex/this-man-has-proof-that-obama-is-gay

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2016

This text:

"was an American diplomat and lawyer who served "

should be changed to

"was a career American diplomat and lawyer who served "

Cb20605 (talk) 21:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Done — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 05:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

It was missiles not video that prompted the attack on Benghazi

My name is KMTitmus. I hold a teaching credential in mathematics and a masters degree in Psychology from San Francisco State. I am retired. I have dial up for my computer system. I am deeply concerned about the misinformation about Benghazi. Just after the Benghazi attack I started reading newspapers from the middle east, Europe, England and the Mediterranean. Much to my horror these papers which corroborated each other told a different story about why Ambassador Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. There has been some very short and not followed up reports in the United States but they have not caught on with the general news medium

The United States gave Quadafi 20,000 surface to air missiles. Quadafi was responsible for the bombing of the plane that blew up over Lockerbee. One year to the day of the Lockerbee bombing Quadafi used a missile to blow up another plane.

There is an American newspaper article which shows an email where Hillary Clinton asked Chris Stevens to retrieve the 20,000 surface to air missiles from Libya. Chris Stevens was the American Ambassador to Libya stationed at Tripoli. There was another American ambassador stationed at Benghazi. The missiles were cached at an area near to Benghazi. The missiles were known to a former Alquida member who had been arrested by the CIA and the Libya government but released by each. Chris Stevens had to negotiate with this former Alquida member to obtain these missiles. There is a ABC article regarding the missiles where the California senator Barbara Boxer states her concern about the missiles and expresses her desire to man American planes that fly in the Libyan area with missile detectors so as to protect them ??? from these surface to air missiles. The article was prompted by a report from Peter Bouckaert emergencies director for Human Right watch.

Chris Stevens was successful in obtaining the missiles and putting them on ships at the port of Benghazi. The missiles were then shipped ostensibly to Syrian to the Syrian freedom fighters. However some of the missiles were confiscated at a port in Lebanon. There is a picture in one of these articles with Syrian freedom fighters in the background smiling and the surface to air missiles ( which were about the size of a bazooka) the foreground. It was later reported that many of these Syrian Freedom fighters were actually members of ISSIS.

Now such a covert action should have been take by our marines, special forces, navy seals or any munitions experts. Chris Stevens as can be read from articles on his influence in Libya was a good will ambassador. The Libyan people loved him. He certainly would have been able to get help for this highly serious military action. Other articles indicate that there were Alquida camps in areas close to Benghazi. Due to the serious nature of the task and the fact that Alquida camps were so close he must have been concerned not only about his well being, but how he would be able to move this amount of munitions. According reports which did surface in American newspapers Chris Stevens contacted Hillary Clinton the woman who asked him if the would take the job over 600 times. It is should be clear that 600 attempts at getting help would have also indicated the seriousness of the task. Yet Chris Stevens received no help. Since the munitions were successfully sent by ship and transported to Syria and Lebanon Chris Stevens was successful. When he met with the ambassador stationed in Benghazi that night he must have been able to report his success. The attack on the compound can thus be viewed as an outrage in reaction to his success. It is also a point of concern of the misinformation regarding how he died. The initial reports stated he was unconscious due to smoke inhalation but alive. His Libyan friend took his to a local hospital where doctors tried in vain to revive him. Later reports stated otherwise.But the initial pictures showed that he was not dragged through the streets and poked wit a pole.

Hillary Clinton stated that she did not want a heavy armed guard for Chris Stevens since

it would have called attention to Chris Steven presence in Benghazi.  A more illumination explanation would have been that she did not want to call attention to the removal of 20,000 surface to air missiles. This may be a better truth considering the number of planes in various parts of the world being found missing the the following months and years.  

The video explanation would have been part of the cover up. However in a article by the Daily Mail Clinton told her daughter that the attack was done by AlQuaeda During the email/Benghazi hearings Bret Baier of Fox news asked Speaker of the House Bahner if he was going to bring up the topic of the missiles. Speaker Bahner said "no" and walked away. This 10 second interview was shown on Fox news but clearly did not receive further investigation.

In one sense Hillary Clinton's actions may be construed as political smarts since she has protected the world from investigating our military weapons sales and thus hides this fact from the American public. However the fact that she did not protect Chris Stevens and the fact that the weapons went from Quadafi to Syrian freedom fights were now shown to be ISSIS should also be problematic for her. It indicates really poor judgement. It is reminiscent of another piece of poor judgment as in Fast and Furious that gave weapons to America's enemies .

God Bless Chris Stevens for his good will ambassadorship. We need more people like him not like Hillary Clinton.

This is my best recollection of the articles I read and have. Many article are no longer available on the internet.

ABC news with contributions of the Associated Press Fox news report by Bret Baier during the Clinton hearings. Linkedin October 26,2015 The truth about Benghazi ( illegal arms trafficking) Reuters News September 11, 2012 Daily Mail January 17, 2016 Kelly MCLaughlin Hillary told her daugter that an Alquaeda like group carried out the Benghazi attack in an email sent the night of the deadly consulate assault. The Financial Times written just after the attack ( I can no longer find this report on the internet) In Front Page Politics 9/08/2014 (no author) Finally revealed : What ambassador in Benghazi was really doing.

Kmt1234 (talk) 17:37, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

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Political party Democratic

There has never been any evidence that I have ever seen to indicate that Ambassador Christopher Stevens was a Democrat. Rather, based on Ambassador Stevens working with Senator Lugar, the opposite is the Truth, as this article, and report claims, There is also no evidence to say that the Obama Administration, President Obama, or Secretary of State Clinton, planned on allowing Ambassador Stevens to be killed due to him being a Republican. The President was absent the night of the attack, according to Defense Secretary Panetta, , a fund raiser in Las Vegas. There is also speculation that Secretary of State Clinton's diagnosed condition of Cerebral Sinus Thrombosis, only 3 months later, , may have influenced her judgment, allowing the attack.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easeltine (talk • contribs) 18:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

You'll need better sources than the Catholic Vote, the Daily Mail, and as you termed it "speculation" from the Washington Post. Brycehughes (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there any source at all showing that Ambassador Stevens was a Democrat, as stated as fact by Wikipedia?Easeltine (talk) 14:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC) When one Googles, Ambassador Stevens Political Party, this Article is the only one coming up declaring Ambassador Stevens was a Democrat. There is no other proof.Easeltine (talk) 14:45, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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