Talk:He blew with His winds, and they were scattered

Latest comment: 12 years ago by 62.37.45.57 in topic Quote from Philip II

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I'm not sure what to make of this article... it seems to be largely a rehash of the content of Spanish Armada. Is this phrase really that well-known? There are about 40 Google hits for this phrase (compare to 21,000 for "England expects..."). Also, a source needs to be provided for the Protestant Wind claim, since this phrase is mostly applied to William III's landing.--JW1805 (Talk) 15:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Source has been provided. Also the information about the Spanish Armada is neccessary context, i.e. that victory was unlikely, hence divine intervention was suspected and hence the phrase came about. True for those exact words the number is about 40. The problem is, as explained in the article, that numerous corruptions have appeared. Try God breathed and they were scattered, or God blew with His winds, and they were scattered and the number rises to over 100. Not much compared to 'England expects...', but as the article says, this was a seminal moment in English history. The reason this information is here and not in the Armada article, is because that is long enough anyway. There is a section on the aftermath, and a link points here for further information. Benea 17:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
No mention of prints - at least as possible an origin as medals, I would have thought. Johnbod (talk) 15:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Quote from Philip II edit

The quote you attribute to King Philip II of Spain "I didn't send my ships to fight a storm", or words to that effect is, in fact, a very popular saying in Spain, but is one of those "fake quotes" that are typical of Romantic history writing. Is not to be found in any account, letter or speech at the time. It was invented by the 19th Century historian Modesto Lafuente in his "Historia General de España". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.37.45.57 (talk) 15:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

 
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Also, the medal doesn't literally say "Jehovah"; it has a (slightly inaccurate) rendering of the Hebrew consonantal Tetragrammaton YHWH (without any indication of vowels), which could receive various interpretations ("The Lord"/Adonai, Yahwheh, Jehovah, etc.)... AnonMoos (talk)